Makes sense to me. If I advise you that children are safer vaccinated, and you don't believe that or follow my advice, then the relationship probably isn't going to work. Bonus that I don't have you in my waiting room someday with a kid with measles, mumps or pertussis.
Thankfully, this is really becoming more common, not only for doctor's offices, but for childcare as well. Aside from spreading the word on the importance of vaccines, I look for things like this to feel safe about where I take my child. My wife and I rejected a daycare because they told us that they accept unvaccinated children, and we were very clear on the reason. We easily found one that required up-to-date vaccines.
Now only if this can be done across the schools, daycares and public spaces…
Canada did it with their smoking policies. Wouldn’t be too hard to implement it via vaccines as well.
Our Pediatrician's office AND our daycare both require that every child follow the vaccination schedule. If you don't agree, move on.
I moved to an affluent area with low vaccination rates. I wish the pediatricians in our area did this! I have a newborn and am terrified of her getting measles from an anti-vaxxer. Measles is one of the most contagious diseases out there!
Good on that doctor's office. Weed out the shitty patients and motivate good ones who will actually listen to them to keep coming back.
I get pro-Choice and all that over whether or not to have your kids vaccinated but this clinic made a choice too.. You can't CHOOSE to knowingly put other lives at risk and then expect zero consequences.
It's not even that they care. Personally, it's sucks to be blunt, but most clinics don't want patients with high amounts of risk or patients who refuse basic healthcare and guidance, regardless of their insurance.
The second I hear that someone refuses to vaccinate their children, I basically send them out of my office for just the fear they'll entangle me in some lawsuit.
It's horrible, but until vaccinations are enforced for all children . . most clinics will refuse to associate themselves with parents who are clearly neglecting the health of their child.
YES we need more medical professionals doing this.
Sounds like a perfect litmus test to me.
With all the scientific studies out there about the importance of vaccinations and that debunk the anti-vaccination argument, any parent who still isn't convinced of the importance of vaccinations as basic preventative care is unlikely to listen to any other modern medical advice the doctor is going to offer. If the doctor is really interested in helping people, she would be wasting her time on such a patient.
Edit - I didn't mean to say the patient was a waste of time. The patient - the child - is the victim in all this. What I meant was that trying to treat the patient, while dealing with the interference of a decision maker who is making decisions for the patient based on pseudoscience and conspiracy theories, would be unproductive and a waste of time that could be better spent on patients who are receptive to medical advice.
thought this was /r/mildlyinfurating at first and I was about to come in here mad at op
Good on 'em. It's a public safety risk.
I think this is great. If/when I have children one of the first questions I will be asking potential pediatricians is "Do you take patients who elect not to be vaccinated?" and if the answer is yes, find a different pediatrician.
Get em. There are people in our microbiology department who's idea of a good time is inviting anti vax parents to a meeting. A Meeting at a bar where they all get drunk and yell at the parents. Kind of an asshole move, but it's equally as funny as mean.
It's about time. We need to make a country for Anti-vaxxers and then send all those stupid fucks there so they can die of Polio and Dysentery, while we get to keep our Herd Immunity and laugh at them.
I don't think this is the solution we need the most. Children should be treated no matter what, and parents who refuse to vaccinate their kids should be arrested.
In before parents complain that this is part of the government conspiracy to force them to vaccinate their children and make them autistic.
serious question, why america have a lot of problems with vaccines ?
( btw im from mexico, here vaccine is obligatory and mandatory for all childrens and free even for adults, we have even campaigns when nurse go door to door asking and vaccione childrens )
Wish they would do that here.
As a Pediatric resident, I could not be more pro-vaccine. However these policies make me quite uncomfortable.
I would be much more inclined to support mandatory vaccination policies for all (eligible) children rather than a policy like this at a doctor's office or school that bans unvaccinated children.
Why? Because these policies don't primarily punish the parents, they punish the children who have no control over the situation. These children are already disadvantaged and if anyone is going to benefit from access to health care or non-biased education, it's going to be children from anti-vax families.
These policies don't solve the problem (unvaccinated population), they just hide it.
Of course it's complicated. Yes, we have a duty to protect other at-risk populations from potentially infectious unvaccinated children, but we also have an obligation to care for the unvaccinated children as well.
good. keeps other patients safe.
Side question, what if you are unvaccinated because of your parents, but want to get vaccinated when you turn 18 and move out. Can you still do that at that age?
My sister and I were both vaccinated, but our much younger brother and sister never were, and they're almost adults now. Just curious!
Step in a right direction.
Accepting unvaccinated children seems like it would be great for business, though.
Horray, some sanity left in the world!
PLEASE tell me this is in the US. Please.
EDIT: Read some of the comments. OP is from Arkansas. YES! FINALLY! SOME VACCINE SANITY IN THE US! I am so happy right now!
Alternative vaccine schedule? What's that?
Finally. There's been enough stupidity in this country lately. This will hopefully solve the root cause of the problem: Uninformed Parents who think they know everything about childcare.
Fucking good! You psychos need to get your kids vaccinated!!!
My doctors office in NYC said if you do not allow them to give your child the regularly scheduled vax program, you can leave the practice.
If there ever was a justification for internment camps, anti vaxxers would be it. Let them kill each other off.
Not even to get vaccinated?
My SO made it a policy at her place as well. I don't work with kids but I should probably have something like that in my clinic.
Same goes for most pediatricians.
I like it. That should be how it is. Aside from socioeconomic circumstances, all children should be vaccinated when given the opportunity.
Even more reasons to get back to be herb medicine
I went to this place as a child. Small world
I understand. Cause then if the unvaccinated kid gets sick or dies then the clinic can become liable because they provided past care.
More places need to do this. Anti-vaxxers don't understand how their decisions pose a significant health risk to the rest of us. This is why they're my least favorite people ever.
Anti-vac parents won't see the logic in this. They'll just say that the clinic is strong arming them into paying for the vaccines.
I'm not an anti vaxxer by any means and I even agree with schools who won't allow unvaccinated children to enroll. But hospitals/clinics/etc are supposed to be a place that provides needed medical care regardless of your conditions.
Some hospitals/doctors did the same shit during the AIDs epidemic, I have a feeling a lot of people here would have been against that, but are all too happy to see children turned away.
As someone who both has young children and is immune suppressed, I like seeing signs like this. I'd be more likely to take my children (who are too young to have received all common vaccinations) there than somewhere without any signage. The sign may be targeted at convincing people to vaccinate, but it is also effective at drumming up business from paranoid people like me.
Anti-vaccers are putting everyone at risk; Their kids, your kids, themselves and everyone else are affected by their willful ignorance. I think all doctors should have policies like this, and even further I believe the government should step in and put a stop to this bullshit as it's not good for anyone.
I wonder how many times someone will say "herd immunity"...
Doctor Here. I love this.
Sounds like a real autism factory. /s
Don't you have to go there for the vaccines?
But what if they're coming to get vaccinated?
At least unvaccinated kids are baptized against all the diseases
Surely this runs afoul of the Obamacare rules. Otherwise people could just deny preexisting conditions.
What happened to the Hippocratic oath? Refuse medical care to someone in need simply over vaccination status? Hypocrisy at its best. If everyone else is vaccinated, what's the problem? Except that the vaccines are a and don't always work, now that pharmaceutical companies can't be held liable for bad practices...
But what if we're there to get my child vaccinated?