2003 NBA draft vs 2017 NBA draft

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  • darrylmacstone

    3 days ago

    Carmelo's suit has SEVEN buttons

  • nosajb23

    3 days ago

    Did all suits in that era look so disproportionate (relative to today), or do they just look disproportionate because the people are so tall?

  • josephbologna

    3 days ago

    The Steve Harvey collection.

  • pirateOfTheCaribbean

    3 days ago

    I always remember that in 2003 those suits looked "normal" and in "style". But now the 4 button, baggy cut looks really outdated. So now I'm wondering what of the 2017 will look outdated in ~15 years. My guess:

    The colors. Other than the red, they aren't particularly out there, but traditionally we don't wear such bright colored suits. Hardly anyone is wearing a 'classic' dark suit and white shirt combo. Blue suits (and I mean blue, not navy) have become a staple for this generation, and that likely won't continue forever. Same with the light grey (before we'd wear charcoal).

    The cuts I think are pretty fine, they're definitely tailored, but no one is wearing a super skinny suit.

  • yolo_lol_wut

    3 days ago

    Didn't realize JNCO made suits in the early-2000s.

    I was actually in high school during this era. Ironically we all thought we looked "tight" in those days.

  • robotmarvin

    3 days ago

    Although suit styles change, I like the fact that suits are always stylish.

  • MrRosewater12

    3 days ago

    Kirk Hinnrich looks so silly lol

  • ThatWontFit

    3 days ago

    All of my bosses and other senior VPs still wear their suits like this. That was just the style and it's still surviving in corporate America. A few weeks ago we had our new CIO come in from France. She was in skinny jeans a nice fitting top and some super cool shoes. She wouldn't be our of place in LA or a NY boutique store. I wore a full suit that broke at the ankles one day and one of the VPs makes a "joke" and says here's the number to my tailor. I'm 27. They just don't get it.

  • TonyzTone

    2 days ago

    Everyone is saying that this was just the style back then but it's not. Watch The West Wing or Friends and you'll see that while suits were baggies than they are today, the suits shown here are ridiculous.

  • rcstro

    3 days ago

    My memory of what was in style back in 03 somewhat differs from the people ITT saying the suits in the pic are entirely down to trends. I don't remember suits like this ever being in style to the point that the average suit wearer looked anything like these guys. Yeah, the more tailored look is definitely more in fashion now than it was then, but I think the average suit wearer was somewhere in the middle of these two pics.

    Melo's 12 button suit was never a thing, that shit was outrageous even in 2003.

  • elykl33t

    3 days ago

    Trust The Process of getting a well tailored suit

  • Ivesisbanksy

    3 days ago

    This is why I'm scared to buy a really nice suit. I suppose somewhere in between slim-fit and the JNCO baggy suit lines are a classic suit that won't go in and out of style. But idk.

  • dlm891

    2 days ago

    It's interesting to note that the NBA Dress Code was put into effect in 2005 (requiring players to wear at least business casual clothing before and after the game).

    Players hated it at first, but it didn't take long for players to obsess about dressing nice and taking their suits seriously. The NBA has since relaxed its dress code, but most players still choose to wear suits to games.

    While in 2003, big and baggy suits were still in, the 2003 NBA draftees still seem to go a bit overboard on it (with the massive jacket and the pants touching the floor), and probably weren't looking to impress anyone (except for Lebron with his white suit). These guys weren't expecting to wear suits that often during their NBA careers, so they probably just picked up whatever could fit them.

  • Kyyy_Funk_89

    2 days ago

    As a Pistons fan, please don't remind me about Darko

  • Terakahn

    3 days ago

    Ah, the trump look.

  • jimmyjazz2000

    2 days ago

    Fascinating comparison that brings up two interesting question:

    1) Will today's on-point fashions look as goofy to us in 15 years as 15 year old fashions do to us now?

    2) Are some eras simply more fashionable than others?

    Answer to the first one is almost invariably yes. But that's usually more our fault than that of the era's style. As fashions come and go, there's usually an early or midpoint that represents the objective height of the aesthetic. By the early 00's, the length and bagginess of those long baggy suits had evolved to clownish extremes. Go back a few years and you can find examples that look good even to our 21st century eyes.

    Answer to the second question is harder. But I think the answer is no. Every era of style has a peak. And if you look only at the peaks, each era has something pretty awesome going on, style-wise. This really hit home for me watching an old movie on TV: American Gigolo starring Richard Gere. That was as "80s" as a movie can get. And the 80s had a lot of train wreck fashions. However, because costume design was deemed such an important part of this very chi chi movie, the clothes in it looked fantastic. And what's more, they STILL look fantastic. Very much of its time, but timelessly chic. (And in fact, the movie helped launch Giorgio Armani's career.)

    So yeah, we may look back at today's outfits and cringe, but that's probably because we are at the extreme of an aesthetic (skinny suits that will make future you ask "didn't they have it in my size?", for example) And they'll be plenty of pics that make you think, "damn I looked good!"

  • collegiateballer

    3 days ago

    I find it funny that a decent chunk of the front page crowd from the /r/sports post find the 2003 suits better looking, and are almost personally offended by the fact that the 2017 are more form fitting.

  • imahobolin

    3 days ago

    way better tailors lmao

  • xSGAx

    3 days ago

    As mentioned in the NBA thread, look at Lebron compared to everyone else. He looks like a giant...and he's the youngest dude there (at least in 2003). He came outta high school lookin like a beast.

    I hope he can find a way to beat GSW next year

  • ShiroHachiRoku

    2 days ago

    Everyone in 2003 look like they're 4 and trying on daddy's suits.

  • imahobolin

    3 days ago

    TJ Ford best longhorn bballer

  • Rtg327gej

    2 days ago

    The Steve Harvey school of style.

  • KA1N3R

    2 days ago

    Man, suits looked so bad in 2003.

  • ratking11

    2 days ago

    Thanks a lot jerk, my dad is a button salesman. Last night my dinner was two beans and all of Carmelo’s buttons.

  • ratking11

    2 days ago

    I know, but take a look at the hair, too.

    All the black men had a buzz, and the white guys just as well have had frosted tips. So much more variety today, longer and lots of great shapes.

  • CrazyAlice

    3 days ago

    Google "chopper suit," it was a thing for awhile.

  • Hallelujah_G0at

    3 days ago

    Just when you think you can forget about Darko...

  • crabsneverdie

    2 days ago

    How many times are we gonna do this, guys?

  • AlgernusPrime

    2 days ago

    LeBron James looks like a damn giant even at that young age.

  • BrianPillmansGun

    2 days ago

    The top picture looks like every black prom ever except no one has a top hat and pimp cane

  • Revived_Bacon

    2 days ago

    they look like tall mfa subscribers

  • priapproved

    2 days ago

    Lol damn... This is posted here every year

  • MathewMurdock

    2 days ago

    2003 looks like kids wearing their dads suit.

  • O_R

    2 days ago

    Hank god the oversized suit trend went away. They all look ridiculous.

  • Throwmeamidget

    2 days ago

    I get that fashion trends are only temporary, but I can't imagine how such baggy suits were ever regarded as good looking. There's no way I could ever look decent in a suit like that.