Brighton confirmed greatest defense in PL history.
Fuck me, Harry Kane scored two hat tricks three days apart
Eto’o hattrick against Utd was the weirdest i’ve ever seen.
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This Aguero guy seems pretty good
God that 5v0 loss to Fulham was grim.
Just glad it's Pogrebnyak on there against us as it looks a bit better than Odemwingie...
what the fuck CP
Had no idea it was that long ago. But it was under Hodgson so it doesn’t count.
It's been a really long time since Palace conceded a hattrick.
It's Diogo, not Diego.
Huh. And here I was thinking "it's gotta be Arshavin"
Great Diego Jota
Mental that its crystal palace that have gone the longest without conceding a hat trick, and by some way as well
I did not want to be reminded of Berbatov
Aguero dosen't like many teams does he?
I completely forgot Eto'o ever played for Chelsea. Huh.
That Aguero guy sounds like he's pretty good
Damn really impressive from Palace
At least Cardiff made this list. Wait no.
Kün you legend.
Firmino was the first to score a hattrick against a big 6 team in 2 years then
Fuck your title race and relegation scrap, this battle royale for 7th spot is where the real box office event is this season.
WE CAN MOVE UP YAY
I was just kidding when I said Liverpool (and City) were safe from relegation last week. The code for that bit isn't ready yet but they're definitely not safe going in to this week. There's no need to panic, they probably will be before long.
Just realised you've put up the max amount of points a team can get, that's pretty neat. Huddersfield can still win the title
Huddersfield pre-new manager bump please.
Watch out Liverpool, you're going from 1st to slightly less 1st!
All hail the white dot.
Could have moved above United before they got Solskjaer in, now they're 9 points clear :(
Solo dot still just as beautiful as before
Well lads, it's been fun. See you in 6th :)
I'm quite confident Huddersfield, Fulham, Southampton and Burnley will lose their matches I'm just not confident that we'll beat Cardiff.
Can Watford, West Ham and Leicester please lose.
Everton being in 7th would make my week so much better... that is if we beat Saints... Ugh... This team gives me high blood pressure but COYB!
Come on L'Equipe, it's right there:
The Wenger Boys.
Such an awesome picture! Makes me feel so damn nostalgic. Hopefully the match is a cracker!
What the text says:
At the beginning of their career changes, Thierry Henry and Patrick Vieira had strained relationships with their former Arsenal coach, Arsène Wenger. Today, as Nice and Monaco's coachs, the former gunners admit that the Alsatian had a big influence on them.
(I do not have a lot of time to do a better translation sorry)
Man Henry looks cool as fuck in that picture
You have to start asking questions, Arsene.
Hope Arsene is at the match
MLS legends right there
Should have added Fabregas to this
Perfect, so we know they will end 4-4.
Sons of Wenger. Guess that makes them brothers. Sometimes brothers make mistakes
Both dressed impeccably as well.
Goes on to prove the legacy Wenger has.
And this season, Youri Tielemans is Wenger's fucking nephew.
Want them both of them to do well
Arsene’s a proud papa, I tell you hwat
Legends of the game
And the other son is the president of Liberia. Is a good dad Wenger.
Liquid Henry and Solid Viera
Which one has the recessive genes?
Which makes Arsenal the Ex-Wife?
The sons of Wenger, makes them brothers.
Sometimes, brothers make mistakes.
Which one is liquid snake and which one is solid ?
That "S" perfectly following the curve of the cannon's wheel.
Maybe it's just too much Vikings but I read it as:
The sons of Ragnar
Race to the 4th
Vieira is no son of Wenger.
Any Gooners out there have the ability to ship a copy of this paper to the states?
Would love to frame and hang it.
Fils de pute
I agree with the sentiment but Henry was already a hell of a player (and a WC winner) before he played under Wenger.That being said, his years under Wenger were something quite special.
Yeah thats pretty much what it means when translated in english.
Can't wait to see the Match Thread flooded with "wHeRe'S fAbReGas??"
Sons of Wanker
Les Enfants Terribles!
West ham second in something. Lovely.
Their GD is even more impressive than their points .
Atleast the best record excluding top 6 teams, and I would very much like it to get even better today!
Now that the table lists records with 6, 7 and 8 matches it should be completed
Raúl Jiménez has scored or assisted in those games with the exception of Man City
We, Arsenal and Man United have each lost 12 points against these teams so far.
Why has wolves been so great against the top 6?
It's been exciting to watch, even when we are getting beat, it always feels like we are in every match
Gonna be 12 points after today ;)
yeh but kane just suddently started scoring regularly. Big jump up that we dont know if rashford is capable of yet
God damn Rashford with 31 caps at 21, that's pretty great. Dude has a bright future.
what about harry kane and marcus rashford at kanes current age
Really weird comparison when you look at the difference of appearances.
I always find these kind of comparisons a bit stupid, player development isn't linear, real life is not like FIFA/Football Manager
Now compare him to Owen, Fowler or Rooney. Different players progress at different rates.
Kane was a relatively late bloomer for striker. So this comparison is bit stupid.
Rashford already has 31 caps?! That's brilliant
I mean yeah, he is a big talent. Anyone who says otherwise is trolling or just stupid.
When Didier Drogba was 23 he was a 1 in 4 striker for Guingamp.
Miroslav Klose was a 1 in 3 striker for Kaiserslautern.
If Rashford is even close to Kane's output by the time he's Kane's age, he'll be considered a star. And he may just well succeed. But this is a pointless comparison that tells us absolutely nothing.
hopefully this and next season is where Rashford hits another level
Add one more to Rashford
Rashford can also say the word “sausages”.
Rashford could've scored more goals for England if they have better (or decent) midfielders.
I don't care about the comparison between them, if anything, England has a very bright future.
Harry Kane was just a completely average prospect as a youngster and those club apps I'm guessing include his various loan spells with Leicester, Orient etc. this is such as a pointless comparison
Wonderkid is good, news at 1800
31 caps at his age is insane
he is a great talent but i don't think rashford is ever going to be as good as harry kane tbh
Kane was our on loans and didn’t get a chance until injuries. No one including me thought he would become the best English striker over a season. This comparison isn’t all that great
Kane wasn't all that highly rated when he was Rashfords age, this comparison shows nothing. Rashford could become better than Kane or he could fade into obscurity it's impossible to tell and Kane's career just proves that
It is no secret that Rashford broke through to Prem level first team at a much earlier stage than Kane. No-one regards Kane as being a precocious player. Kane is rated cos he is a very regular goalscorer for quite a while now. Rashford still has not reached that consistency yet. Only time will tell whether he does or not.
Example of using stats to prove a meaningless point. This stat compilation tells you nothing about the quality of the players. Is Rashford better at his age than Kane was? Maybe. Is Rashford going to be better than Kane is when he he gets to Kanes current age? Maybe.Rubbish
Kane relies on his finishing ability. Rashford is more of an explosive pacey striker. Forwards in Kane's mould generally peak later and last longer. Forwards who rely on pace hit the stage early (Owen as an example) start declining around 29-30 y.o. Then you have freaks like Ronaldo and Messi who have everything and can continue being world class deep into their 30s.
Sorry Kane’s scored 20 less goals in 78 less appearances, Rashford must be better then
Rashford at the start of this season was 3 months younger than Kane at the start of 14/15, if we're comparing full seasons this is the equivalent one. Rashford is 21 right now, and while he obviously started his career far ahead of Kane at an equivalent stage, Kane experienced a sudden spike right about now, and Rashford isn't going to finish the season with Kane's tally.
Going further: Kane's 14/15: ~21 and 1 month - 21 and 10 months, 21 goals in 34 PL appearances.
Rashford's 18/19: ~20 and 10 months - 21 and 7 months, 6 goals in 18 PL appearances so far.
Rashford is at precisely the point when Kane kicked on and established himself as a top striker. Or do those 3 months change everything? I have no idea why people keep pushing this idea that Rashford is way ahead comparatively, like fucking hell open Wikipedia it's not difficult.
This is the kinda thing that can really backfire.
Doesnt mean Rashford will improve. Maybe he will even decline for all we know. Comparisons like this are stupid.
Lukaku is better than both
It's like night and day and no I'm not a racist.
Doesn’t really mean anything for me.
Kane wasn’t even particularly highly rated as a youth player, but then he just decided I’m gonna start scoring a shit ton of goals because I’m bored.
It’s safe to say Huesca is going to get relegated but those other two spots are open to anyone really. It’s going to be interesting seeing teams fight it out at the end of the season.
whats happening with valencia?
I really enjoy watching games of the Spanish league.The technical level is absurdly high and you get a feeling of everyone being capable of beating everyone.
On top of that, even teams outside the top 4 like Betis try to attack against anyone, whether its Huesca or Barcelona. I'm loving it!
Is it me imagining it or are Villarreal always either battling for the Champions League or facing relegation. They never seem to just finish 11th.
(Cue someone telling me thats where they were last season)
If only they had played 19 games
Wait, remind me where they are in the table again?
What’s wrong with Villarreal
Anyone know how Calleri is doing in Alavés?
It is January and Real Madrid still not qualified for CL football. Damn.
Nobody is talking about Villarreal having a really bad season
So, you are telling me RM is 11 points away from relegation zone and first place in same time ?
How can this be possible when the Premier LeagueTM is the most competitive league in the worldTM ???
I was having a look at Celta Vigo squad and thought how could a team with the talents of Lobotka, Gomez, Mendez etc... be two points above relegation but now you mention it, they’re only 4 behind Getafe. In saying that are they having a bad season or is this what Celta fans expected?
To me that means everybody beats everybody and no one is consistent. Not a sign of a good league or a competitive season.
Really weak la liga season.
They can still get into Champions League, or get relegated.
Lol Porto and Benfica in the sea
Why is Juventus a sock lmao
Montana has more professional football teams than people living there
The Portuguese teams are drowning
Damn... no wonder people from Europe are so well-traveled across countries!
Porto and Benfica playing in stadium size Caravelas
So who wants to play against us in the ocean?Atlantis Stadium best stadium.
Only team from a non-Christian country and right in the middle of the bible belt. I like it.
Makes you realise NBA players are basically flying between countries daily and up to 50 countries a season based on the euro scale.
I picked Madrid for a center since it will host the final. Then I chose LA for visualisation purposes.
Clearly inspired by this post.
Are we in Washington or Montana? It is hard to see on this map and I want to know which US state is the greatest.
Shakhtar yinzers (Pittsburgh)
This map doesn't make sense. It would be more logical to put Benfica (and why not Sporting too) where Madrid is and Porto in San Francisco or something instead of, you know, in the God damn sea.
Wtf we're so close to Spurs in comparison to the size of America. Really puts it into perspective that
OP is lucky there was no Astana or Qarabag this year.
Montana United sounds funny
Probably should shift everyone to the right a little bit...
The aquatic stadiums for benfica and porto would be cool
People underestimate the effect of travel on MLS teams. We had back-to-back away matches in Orlando and Seattle this past season. Our guys looked drained in that second match and lost fairly heavily.
Also, MLS limits the number of private flights that a team can take per season, so squads are frequently flying commercial to and from cities.
Only thing that can be remarked is that Shakthar actually play in Kharkiv and not in Donetsk.
Shit, Gooners were right. We really are Spuds.
The fun fact: Donetsk and Pittsburgh are actually sister cities.
And also had a thing for coal mining.
The Italian teams in Texas seems somehow fitting
Damn no east coast, most of them are in middle of nowhere.
Genuine question: When Liverpool and Madrid are as far apart as Los Angeles and the state of Washington, why is the climate in Europe so similiar while California is tropical and Washington cold as fuck?
Why is Madrid that starting point? Why is LA the starting point?
Someone do one of all EFL teams + Premier League teams mapped inside one US state.
Theres finally something in the middle of the country
I would love to see a good old-fashioned North Montana Derby.
You know you done fuckd up when the portuguese take to the sea. I'm confident now.
May I ask at this point why this is a thing?
I don't understand why it's not moved to the right to fit porto and benfica on land
What's up with these stupid remappings? What is the point?
I’m a Bayern fan born in Nebraska.. coincidence? I think not
juve looks cute, lol
On this map we are located in Donetsk, and that reminds me that we are not anymore :(
Napoli is in fucking Lubbock lol that’s hilarious
Would be interesting to see an equivalent for the US lower leagues. The Edmonton-Puerto Rico trip in NASL would be up there
Montana would have some pretty decent teams tbh
Move the damn map over wtf
Spurs in Idaho. Seems correct to me.
Why wouldn't the entire map be moved over a bit to the right in order for Benfica and Porto to be on land. Everything would still fit.
Rocky mountain hiiiiiigh
The lines should have started from Switzerland since UEFA is based there.
Ottawa made it to the map :') also some Canadian teams in the UCL :'))
We can’t even have a top team in the alternate maps :(
Well, we're lost at the sea. #FCPorto
Alright, Europe... Now go do that travel every single week from March to November.
wow i live near one club lol
Always rated Washington state.
Can we please stop doing this? Nobody cares
Not a surprise that the Americans have to make everything about America.
No one cares, you can literally do this diagram with anything you want.
If England was a state... Manchester City, United and Liverpool would all be in the same state!
Who cares about some terrible arrogant country? Not to mention their lunatic president.
I'm honestly just waiting for a meme version of this graphic to be posted, I don't know what it's going to be but I hope it's going to be great. Appreciate the OC though mate :)
Being in the championship doesn't bother me much except when we're not included in these.
Gotta do this myself then:
Percentage Increase: 56%
All the Wolves gloryhunters out in force.
153% increase for City, wtf?! Spurs really need a better PR/marketing team
What a cl final can do.
Liverpool almost doubled wtf?
Inb4 Arsenal 4th jokes
Suprised Chelsea's isn't higher given the Pulisic transfer.
Surprised United's growth is that high honestly. I know we're a popular club but we're in a "down" period and I figured that wouldn't draw in the same amount of fans that a CL final or a record breaking league season would.
Or maybe it's just to do with Reddit growing as a whole
City have got more fans on reddit than they do IRL
I did this last year, The numbers are from 1/2/18 and today (yes i know not an exact year). The old post is here.
I believe there is a 300% increase in our sub since 2016 summer.
Arsenal just love 4th don't they.
Chelsea isn't actually third in real terms btw, their sub is probably more similar to /r/coys than /r/gunners in terms of actual traffic. There was a bug or something that caused /r/sports subs to automatically sub to /r/chelseafc as well a while back which massively inflated their sub base.
Woop solid mid table.
Ours has grown by 48% in the last year apparently, some people just can’t be saved.
How can i choose a team? Like a badge of my team before my name
in reality Arsenal is 3rd because Chelsea have a bunch of bots
just have to look at the activity
How were Chelsea the most subbed before
Amazing how the perception of Liverpool fans being 'Insufferable' and the influx of bandwagon fans started occurring at the same time.
It's almost like your average Liverpool fan is perfectly fine.
Lmao Atlanta is still in Georgia, that's wack.
Inspired by /u/CruzeiroDoSul's post, "[OC] Brasileirão clubs remapped to equivalent distances across Europe" which was inspired by /u/sned777's post, "If Russian Premier League clubs were based in Europe, this is where they would be.".
I used the same site, MAPfrappe, as /u/CruzeiroDoSul to create the base image and then added the MLS logos over it in paint.net. Here is a link to the same settings on MAPfrappe that I used in the OP in case you want to make a prettier verison or see how it compares to other areas.
I tried (and failed) to get all the clubs to fit on land but there just wasn't enough land. Also, Atlanta United ended up in Georgia again.
People laughed when Steven Gerrard said the travel was too much for him in the MLS. Maybe this provides a little more perspective
I would hate to think of the travel costs. That looks insane. I can see why a 2 division system in the US is far away simply due to travel costs and time.
Living in the Scottish central belt you can get to about 90% of the 42 league club’s stadiums within two hours drive. Most 7:45 midweek kick offs you’d be back before midnight. In the US you’d have to take about three days off work by the looks of it.
This is the thing everyone seems to forget about when talking about the mls. Away support isnt really a thing, theres a ton of travelling, and climates can be massively different.
New York Red Bulls would still be in Jersey
A hundred years is a long time in North America. A hundred miles is a long way in Europe. ^(except Russia, obvs)
well at least georgia is in the same place
Woah his tool is the best.
Have not overlaid teams - but he's a quick sketch of some of the Australian distances: https://imgur.com/a/GADtVJz
Only way I could get the teams to all be on some sort of landmass.
First game of the season Quakes vs Montreal.
I drive from Atlanta to Columbus at least twice a season, so roughly Kutaisi, Georgia, to Kamyshin, Russia.
I have friends who drive from Virginia to Columbus for each game, so half of that trip.
Yep, the UK in its entirety is smaller than the state of California. Consider that the farthest an EPL team has to travel is (I think) Newcastle to Bournemouth - that's the approximate distance from L.A. to San Fransisco. The cost for the clubs to travel is immense, and also for fans (as someone else said, that's why there's little traveling support in most US sports). It's also a reason why we need a lot more interest in the sport before we will be able to have multiple leagues with pro/rel, etc.
Well I’m glad FC Dallas is playing the fucking ocean
Vancouver Whitecaps are playing somewhere up near Durness in the far north west of Scotland. I had a wee scout around where their stadium would be and.....here.
The Seattle Sounders have a ready made bowl to put their stadium in here, near Clova, and even a small supporters lodge.
Edit: Upon closer inspection I think the Seattle Sounders may actually be closer to the Glenshee area, which would put their stadium somewhere in this lovely flat valley, here.
And this is why we in the USA have divisions and conferences for all our sports leagues. I prefer the one table system seen in European leagues, but practicality reigns.
I think this is a great illustration of why getting into the MLS can be hard as an american/ why the national youth infrastructure needs some work. I hear brits complain about the longer away travel and a few years ago before atlanta or orlando existed, the entire south was several countries away from from a top tier club.
“MlS hAs No FaN cUlTuRe SmH”
This is cool and all, but can someone scale it to Red Dead Redemption 2?
So the Miami team would be in Saudi Arabia
Lol. Pretty insane.
I'd like to see one in comparison to Australia
One of the things that European fans don't take into account when it comes to travel for MLS teams is not just the distances that some teams have to travel, but the fact that they have to travel across multiple time zones as well. So say for example that LAFC are playing NYCFC in New York City in a match that kicks off at 1 pm (not something you see often, but bear with me here). For the LAFC players, this would be like the match starting at 10 am in Los Angeles, which is a huge disadvantage, especially if they haven't gotten enough time to adjust to the time difference. Now let's flip it the other way around. If NYCFC travels to Los Angeles and the match kicks off at 8 pm, it would be similar to the match kicking off at 11 pm for the NYCFC players who are used to the time on the east coast. It's a really big disadvantage to the visiting squad and it's part of the reason why MLS (and every other professional league in the United States) operates on an unbalanced schedule.
I wonder who has got ravel the farthest each season. We are in the middle but we seem to be the furthest away from any other team.
Now do one for Brazil (Brazil is the size of the US less Alaska and Hawaii, so it should be comparable).
This is why one of the biggest changes MLS could make to improve player quality of life (so to speak) is unlimited charter flights. I think they currently can only charter two flights per year, so most often they choose when they have a bunch oftravel with 3 games in the week.
The fun side of this is that if you are say, from Portland, and are flying out to say Atlanta for a match, you might catch a flight with the team! I haven't done that, but I'm sure it would be a bit of a fun experience for any fan that does.
I think the reason that they don't allow unlimited charters is over fears of competitive advantage--a team with deep pockets like LA Galaxy or Atlanta would charter every flight, while a team with less financial freedom like RSL wouldn't. But hopefully that changes soon.
This is always funny to see. I learned about these distances in the context of 18th century history. Was always interesting to see how European commanders had to readjust to war in the Americas.
No MLS teams in Spain :(
Good luck with Orlando away, ya c*nts
So basically Arsenal’s Europa league travel map
This is the coolest one imo
At least US has a geographical division. Brazil is another continental country and yet all teams compete against each other, and distances can reach more than 4000km from southern teams to northeastern teams. That's like going from NY to LA
Edit: ok, so I didn't notice this post is actually based on another one that actually shows that Brasileirão issue.
Does anyone have an opposite map? Maybe the top few teams in each of the top leagues in Europe, put on the US?
Are we TNS
FC Sunny Beach
How do you get user flairs in this sub?
TIL: Ive driven from Turkey to Scotland
Montreal almost in Siberia. Can't escape the snow lmao
The second one needs to be flipped sideways.
While the a league competition was a 5,255 km travel distance between Wellington and Perth
I always hear about English teams expecting to lose away to a Russian team because of travel. Minnesota to Seattle is a conference game.
When is Texas going to start it’s own league? Then the MLS can be like the champions league haha.
EPL fans have no reason to complain about travel lol
Two thoughts:1) Manifest Destiny really screwed us2) But how 'bout a franchise each in Alaska and Hawaii to really get crazy go nuts
That was cute.
Now do the same with russian 2nd division
This subs most retarded posting trend yet
fuck they're huge innit
Inspired by If Russian Premier League clubs were based in Europe, this is where they would be, by /u/sned777.
This was done with the aid of MAPfrappe and Paint.NET.
There's no ulterior motive behind where each city was placed, except I tried to have them all be located at land and this is the best I could do.
There are things even worse about travelling in Brazil, when you consider the Estaduais. Four hours in a flight sounds awful, but Bahia is the size of France, and there are cities without regular flights, who has teams in the top flight. For Bahia to go to Jacobina play against the local team, for example, there are 6 hours in a bus, or rent an airplane for a game who won't give the revenue for it to be worth.
And, about the teams there arent rich enough to afford to rent a plane, they have to go from their city to the other all the way in a bus, and get distances like 800km without leaving the state.
Now do Estonian clubs over Brazil
Now imagine have to go in the same week to Argentina and Fortaleza. and you will still find people saying its a good idea to have Mexican clubs at the libertadores.
Quality post.Now you should do a timeline one so europeans can say how young our clubs and cities are!
enjoy Fortaleza away you cunts
This map is sexy af, well done OP x
I’ve always been impressed with how Europe can support so many massive teams in such a small area.
Someone do an mls one too
I may be the only one who just realized Brazil is pretty fucking big
A map debates going to pop up eventually.
you can take an aerial pic of stamford bridge or white hart lane (pointed towards each other) and you'll get a photo with the two and the emirates in the same frame, they're practically in a straight line and very, very close together in comparison to op's pic. ofc goodison is a literal stone's throw from anfield!
It could be even more discrepant, but Brazil lacks clubs in the North region.
Even in the Northeast/Center-West there are only a few compared to dominant South/Southeast.
This is why I find it funny when people tell Americans to "just support your local MLS team". Uhh, there's a good chance their "local" MLS team is a state or two over, entire EU country distances away.
Awesome! Glad to see more countries mapped like this!
no clubs in the Amazon? waste of space. Arena Amazonia is superb
Where's me MLS map at boys
Gotland FC i mitt hjärta.
Keep producing content, fellow. You're good.
Now do the Maltese premier league, remapped onto neighborhoods in Stockholm, Sweden.
Clubs that are in libertadores also have to travel to other countries and many which have really different altitude, like 3000m above sea level altitude.
My city being on the map but not my team... oof, it hurts
Now do the A-league
Is this the big new r/soccer trend now...
Nevertheless, quite interesting really.
Conspiracy theory: These map comparisons are astroturfing from the big clubs behind the controversial European Superleague plan.
Change my mind.
It's a great visualization, but I have a feeling Europe still looks too big.
Especially Britain, Scandinavia and Iceland, due to the Mercator projection.
Cross post this to /r/mapporn for some easy karma
Is there an MLS one?
Someone put the A League in there. Perth to Wellington is 5,255km, which is London to New Hampshire in the USA, or London to Afghanistan
IDK why, but seeing Maceió on this made me happy.
Here's my crappy MLS version: https://i.imgur.com/AXg99Yu.png
And here's the MAPfrappe share URL in case somebody wants to try to make a prettier version that lines up better with Europe: http://mapfrappe.com/?show=57021
Do mls next...
That's pretty wild. And your map at least keeps it in Europe but it'd be like Exeter flying to Algeria to play a league game
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