And what's even worse I have a mandatory meeting that same afternoon as well...
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John Travolta in the dark.
Now this is good.
Might want to put your gloves on...it’s a pocket pussy and I fucked it pretty good before I got here
It's not a joke, it's the truth.
From Babylon 5, s01e18 -"A Voice in the Wilderness".
Is that the guy from ancient aliens?
That’s so Gucci
Why don't you just not go? Or do you get marked for attendance?
When my fourth lower-division course talks about the difference between a dependent and independent variable...
Had a college professor that made it mandatory that before you turned in your essay you had to go to the tutoring center or go to the online tutor and take a picture of your timestamp for the session and then e-mail the picture to her before you turned your assignment in. So essentially you are just wasting some poor tutors time for about 45 minutes.. if you don't actually need help.
Speaking as a librarian, we just get super lonely and it’s nice when people come and acknowledge our existence.
If you are already familiar with the material, ask smart questions. As a librarian, I know a lot about research that could probably help you be a better scholar.
Ôk, context please. Is this a thing? What do you even do there?
It’s funny because with each passing year it’s like they expect me to all of a sudden not want to do the minimal amount of online research on Google Scholar.
Had this happen in the final semester of my masters, in an accelerated course. Could not believe my eyes. We literally already only had a week to complete the course and they spent an entire morning showing us how to use the research database. In the final semester. Of a masters. Unis can be fucking stupid sometimes.
You'd be surprised how bad plagiarism in college gets.
Source: used to teach as an adjunct.
Or someone was caught plagiarizing and now the whole class has to suffer. College equivalent of sexual harassment seminars.
Speaking as a professor at a mid-sized R1 university: you almost certainly need it, even if you think you don’t.
If you check out the comments, a bunch of people express sympathy for OP, while everybody who works in a library or is a professor (including me - I am studying to be a librarian) is like, “you’re doing it because most of your classmates probably need this shit and even if you think you don’t, you could still probably learn something new.”
I remember in my first year of university, I had no idea about citation methods beyond the very basic stuff you learn(ed) in my province's (Ontario) high school in the early-2000s. So I got really shitty grades. That's when I buckled down and learned as many methods possible. There were also citation generators which made the entire process really straightforward.
But by the end of university it had all changed. If I remember correctly most students in my program were required to take a class on research and citation at the university of Toronto. This was emphasized in an elective course I took to graduate. It was open to everyone. Watching first year students groan about having to take a course that I would have paid for to ensure that I didn't stay a semester longer than I should have made me really sad.
That professor has seen some shitty papers in his life from students who have no idea what is or how to cite.
Took a writing 101 class first semester. Took writing 201 next semester because they were requirements. Both classes were the exact same. I learned the same things twice
I still don’t understand when and where you have to include a citation. By the way they explained it, I feel like you would have to have 100 citations in each page.
I had two in undergrad, and a total of four in my master's program.
Spoiler for anyone going to grad school for education: it's all busy work. I'm almost done and I've gained about a semester and a half worth of knowledge and skill. The rest has just been canned answers and papers that don't matter.
I worked in a college library, and I can’t tell you how many goddamned students came in at the end of the year and didn’t know how to find shit. Like, not even the first step with a computer search. I’d understand if they couldn’t navigate the stacks, but noooo, it’s way worse.
A real interaction:Student: “I need a book on owls.”Me: “any specific kind? What’s the research on?”Student: “... just owls.”Me: facepalm
This student was a 4th year senior.
Look at it as a networking opportunity. College librarians know the researchers who do that extra rare research, that unique bit of information that only one or two experts in the world know. The librarians are like the literary socialite of the academic world. They know of citations and catalogs that few others even know exist.
As a teacher, trust me - even you who roll your eyes can learn something new about citation and/or sources.
A (claiming to be) librarian commented in here about learning from them, and that's a fantastic idea. MLA changes constantly. First time I switched to APA in grad school blew my mind. And that's only two of them.
TL;DR You can always learn something knew from an expert.
Where is this GIF from, it's hilarious.
Considering the relative percentage of the population that could use instruction on “sources”, I find this to be a great use of a class period. Also, there’s a lot that a library provides in terms of resources that people aren’t familiar with including databases that you would otherwise have to pay for to have access.
Students that plagiarize and don't know how to cite sources in year 4 are the reason for this, at least for me.
This actually makes me want to start sending grad students too.
YOU CANT FIND ANY INFORMATION ON GOOGLE EVER, DON'T EVEN TRY! YOU HAVE TO USE EBSCOHOST!!!!!
/s (although tbf Ebscohost and those other database were really useful)
I teach grad students and I have to get a special meeting with the librarian every single semester. If I didn’t a quarter of the class would fail. Sorry, we have to do this.
You complain, but I’m a TA at a grad school and people still don’t know how to use sources here. It’s embarrassing
I transferred in to my college so I missed the freshmen level “here’s how to find and cite sources” course... communications 100 or something. Turns out it was required to graduate and nobody told me, so I was forced to take it the summer after my senior year, during a trip I had planned across Europe.
So there’s me, paying for hours once or twice a week in an Internet cafe, writing bullshit papers using a variety of different newspaper, book, etc. sources. And we had a forum discussion requirement too, where I had to be active on the course forums.
I finally emailed my professor and told him I was a super-senior, traveling Europe, and well past needing his course. He told me to write a 5-pager in whatever I wanted, use 10 different sources, and he’d pass me for the year. He was incredibly understanding.
I feel like English classes were basically repeated with different reading material from 6th grade through college honestly
"Mandatory attendance" always rubbed me the wrong way. Yes, participation is important, but some courses are bullshit so if my tuition check cleared and I'm turning in assignments and passing the class, I'll decide if I need to be there or not.
I'd assume that your department's just wasting money to justify their budget
You say again which means you've done it, but there are probably people in your class who have never been to the library and somehow got to their 4th year of university. It's ok for people to learn new shit even though they should've learned this particular thing as a child /teen.
Learning the scientific method for the 46th time
Probably just wanted to show you what a book is.
I'm a graduate assistant, I teach a non-majors Biology lab. The lesson was about the senses last week. It was embarrassing.
Oh it's the same reaction I get grading annotated bibliographies after sending my class to the library after the 4th time.
This is how I felt about the water cycle in all of elementary and middle school.
Inevitably it’s taught by the librarian who’s about to retire and it just as sick of teaching about Boolean searches as you are hearing it.
WHY IS THIS A COMMON‽
Still my favourite gif.
And you still cite Wikipedia
Thank the stars for online classes. I did about 95% of my classes online.
Though, at the time, online courses were pretty new so I had several instructors insist we show up at the campus for various reasons. I had to remind them I was in another state.
If you lazy students learned to use sources we wouldn't need to take you there all the time
Like every course I’ve had so far has done one of those I just haven’t gone yet
This a been a sobering realization that the end of high school does not mean the end of “library source talks” for me
You know it I know it everybody knows it.
Don't even start dude, I did that shit during a PhD course.
Damn, those were good prosthetics
Well, it’s surprising that some students go a four years without ever going to the library. This isn’t new.
Me when my college requires people to take an online introduction course to taking online classes anytime we sign up for one.
When my Senior Project class has us do essays and presentations solely on ethics in the midst of us trying to make our project.
Yeah I am doing a second masters degree atm (don't ask, it pays off). We are in this class (all like 30- 40 year old on their second college term) and this Teachers Assistant teaches us about properly sourcing and how to quote and all. We all had a Masters Degree there, she was on her Bachelors.
Nothing against her. She was nice and knew the situation, tried to make the best out of it. He had to be there, mandatory attendance.
Talk about useless timewaste.
profs reaction when students in their 4th year still can't format a bibliography and use terrible sources for their ill-formed arguments
Maybe if people in fourth year weren’t still plagiarizing stuff, or didn’t use the first five google results as their bibliography, the prof/TA wouldn’t think it was necessary.
Honestly, I’m a TA, and we make the charitable assumption that students plagiarize things because they don’t know how to cite. It is best for you that we educate you on it on the chance that you don’t know. Also, you can’t then show up in our office upset that you earned an F and a note to the Dean saying “I didn’t know that quoting without quotes was plagiarism!”
Similarly, we assume students use Wikipedia for research papers and the first five google results not because they are lazy, apathetic or dumb, but because they don’t know how to access real scholarly sources. We make you go to the library training so you know how to find sources, but also so you can’t show up in our office requesting to rewrite your C- paper because you didn’t know.
Maybe if my student's sources didn't consist solely of the first results on google for their topic then I wouldn't tell them about using academic sources as much... I mean at least click the books link on google for fucks sake.
Speaking as an instructor, most undergrads (even the upperlevels) don't know how to use/find academic sources to begin with.
some of y'all motherfuckers still need it
4th year college? How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, Old Man?
College seems so weird, it's literally like high school in Europe.
When teachers plan tests on the last day before break and say “Don’t plan on missing that day, you need to be here” even though you’ve had a vacation that day lined up for months
Sounds like you go to one of those “colleges” that aren’t really one. Go to an actual one and they don’t even teach you that, they have group projects so the professor can hit on the 18yr olds and not give a single lecture.
longer more awesomer version
Did it happen to be the library of Congress by any chance?
You’d be surprised at how many college students still don’t know what’s a valid source. Where’s that post about the Facebook mom who was trying to find antivaxx scholarly sources?
These are "filler" lessons, and it's a consequence of uniform requirements for minimum length of a single class, minimum number of days per week, for the period of a semester, in order for the professor to earn certain pay or other benefits. A lot like your scholarship requirements to be enrolled in a certain number of hours.
As someone who teaches fourth-year students at university, you would be AMAZED at how many students still don't know how to cite or reference sources. It's infuriating.
honestly if you have made it to college you should understand how a library works
They have done it 2 times out of 2 years in graduate school also...it never ends!
Shout out to the teachers who make sure you know how to do important shit before you graduate and don’t assume you already know it.
As a math major, what are sources? Is that like having someone else do the proof for you?
Because no matter how much college you've had, the vast majority of 22 year olds are inept.
Correctly finding and crediting sources is important, otherwise you'll just make shit up like trump
Having worked at a college library during my undergrad, there’s a ridiculous amount of college seniors who have never checked a library book out or even used the research sources we provided. It was sad.
What do you study that you use physical books as sources?
Me: ( plagiarizes again anyways)
All these comments about suffering and punishment. It's insane that there are still places in the world that make you go through this. But I want to tell you all, just hold on! You can make it. Life won't always be this hard. Just remember there are millions of women and children every year that are trafficked for sex, and there some people that went to school this year and watched some of their friends gunned down, but they still keep going. So I know you can figure out some way through this! Thoughts and prayers!
Drop it. Not a real college at that point
A d yet you pay all that money for what reason?
Librarian: Ok, let’s look up some examples. Someone give me a topic.
Librarian: Ok, someone just speak up and give me a topic to enter.
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The league I play in allows alcohol consumption. This makes the social thing much easier as 3 beer me forgets how much we hate the general public
Its better than some club where you actually have to come up with a conversation and shit. With softball you can just focus on the game
If you don’t want to be social, you could just cheer and yell stuff like « eyes on the ball! », « make them regret they were ever born! » or « shut up and pitch! ». Or just fill your mouth with sunflower seeds so you can’t talk.
If you aren’t doing anything active at all softball is better than nothing but you won’t really get a workout from it
Why can't I save these gifs on this phone 😭😭😭😭😭
I joined my friend's softball team and realized I would have to run after being sedentary for years.
Turns out my moobs jiggle when I run now.
Try disc golf. You can play with alone, or play in a a group or join a club. Since so many people play alone to get a fast round in before or after work, you don't feel weird.
Break a leg as soon as possible. Its the only way OP.
Wow. This looks just like the girl from the last episode of the Orville.
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