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Closest NFL Conference Team to Each US County

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COMMENTS

  • iMadeThis4Westworld
    88 points Jan 19,2019, 5:01pm

    Lol at the saints logo directly over Georgia

  • Aaroneus89
    74 points Jan 19,2019, 4:49pm

    I didn't know how much I wanted to know this until I saw it

  • GeorgeWashingtonsToe
    33 points Jan 19,2019, 4:55pm

    Who wins population wise?

  • cshark2222
    9 points Jan 19,2019, 4:50pm

    Guess I gotta move outa VA

  • THAWK413
    5 points Jan 19,2019, 5:58pm

    Yeah, we'll take Michigan's penis, and Michigan's nose, thank you very much.

    Edit: Michicgan looks like a monster's head breaching the surface of the ocean.

  • BarrackOmaha
    10 points Jan 19,2019, 4:50pm

    How did you calculate this?

  • thecore22
    5 points Jan 19,2019, 4:49pm

    Who does St Louis root for?

  • srchl
    2 points Jan 19,2019, 5:25pm

    This is badass

  • officiakimkardashian
    2 points Jan 19,2019, 4:56pm

    Closest from what point? I don’t get how you determine the regions.

  • obeyyourcapner
    1 points Jan 19,2019, 5:11pm

    Hatfields and Mccoys gettin serious

  • WoodchuckRailroad
    1 points Jan 19,2019, 7:12pm

    Let's go Flyover States!

  • cuteintern
    1 points Jan 19,2019, 7:43pm

    FOH, Western NY is Chiefs territory this week!

  • rvadarocket
    1 points Jan 19,2019, 4:54pm

    Taking a page out of r/CollegeBasketball’s book huh

  • DigitalS69
    -1 points Jan 19,2019, 7:15pm

    There is no Pittsburgh Steelers fan alive that would want the Patriots to win.....this map is definitely not accurate

COMMENTS

  • iMadeThis4Westworld
    88 points Jan 19,2019, 5:01pm

    Lol at the saints logo directly over Georgia

  • Aaroneus89
    74 points Jan 19,2019, 4:49pm

    I didn't know how much I wanted to know this until I saw it

  • GeorgeWashingtonsToe
    33 points Jan 19,2019, 4:55pm

    Who wins population wise?

  • Muninn088
    16 points Jan 19,2019, 4:56pm

    DFW split right down the middle.

  • cshark2222
    9 points Jan 19,2019, 4:50pm

    Guess I gotta move outa VA

  • THAWK413
    5 points Jan 19,2019, 5:58pm

    Yeah, we'll take Michigan's penis, and Michigan's nose, thank you very much.

    Edit: Michicgan looks like a monster's head breaching the surface of the ocean.

  • BarrackOmaha
    10 points Jan 19,2019, 4:50pm

    How did you calculate this?

  • thecore22
    5 points Jan 19,2019, 4:49pm

    Who does St Louis root for?

  • srchl
    2 points Jan 19,2019, 5:25pm

    This is badass

  • officiakimkardashian
    2 points Jan 19,2019, 4:56pm

    Closest from what point? I don’t get how you determine the regions.

  • obeyyourcapner
    1 points Jan 19,2019, 5:11pm

    Hatfields and Mccoys gettin serious

  • WoodchuckRailroad
    1 points Jan 19,2019, 7:12pm

    Let's go Flyover States!

  • cuteintern
    1 points Jan 19,2019, 7:43pm

    FOH, Western NY is Chiefs territory this week!

  • rvadarocket
    1 points Jan 19,2019, 4:54pm

    Taking a page out of r/CollegeBasketball’s book huh

  • DigitalS69
    -1 points Jan 19,2019, 7:15pm

    There is no Pittsburgh Steelers fan alive that would want the Patriots to win.....this map is definitely not accurate

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A look at the Saints 18 play 117 yard drive that lasted 11 minutes and 29 seconds.

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COMMENTS

  • Dogkyle
    421 points Jan 14,2019, 11:48am

    Some say the Saints are still scoring and getting called for holding, in a never ending Sisyphean loop.

  • Eargoe
    222 points Jan 14,2019, 11:45am

    They couldn't stop Michael Thomas at all.

  • JosephSmithRapedKidz
    175 points Jan 14,2019, 1:50pm

    Remember on this drive when Taysom Hill was wide open as a WR on a 46 yard TD catch with like 5 yards on the safety, but Brees underthrew him. Taysom jogged back to the huddle and 10 seconds later Taysom threw a perfect 46 yard pass as a QB that was called back for a hold. Then 2/3 of the next plays he acted as a blocking TE and made a critical block for Kamara?

  • UsernameChecksOut104
    108 points Jan 14,2019, 11:46am

    Felt like they were getting penalties and still picking up first downs just to fuck with Jim Schwartz

  • ballinskary
    42 points Jan 14,2019, 12:56pm

    The Saints were marching in for the entire third quarter.

  • IseeNekidPeople
    44 points Jan 14,2019, 11:53am

    I messed up the title, I needed to say either 18 play 92 yard drive or 22 play 117 yard drive but whatever it's Monday.

  • throwaway1212378
    43 points Jan 14,2019, 12:54pm

    Every time something good happened I was looking for the flag

  • AlexNyko
    17 points Jan 14,2019, 1:33pm

    5 times they were 15 or more yards away from 1st down.

  • KikkomanSauce
    15 points Jan 14,2019, 3:38pm

    I've seen Payton/Brees rip out a defense's heart on plenty of occasions, but this was just...oof.

    They were at X & 20 three times! Not only did the sheer amount of time and plays suck out their physical energy, to still end up giving up a TD after all that shit...gotta be demoralizing.

    Gotta give it to the Philly D though. They fought tooth and nail that entire game, while both the Saints O and lack of Philly O wore them out big time.

  • fabledforeigntongues
    8 points Jan 14,2019, 12:53pm

    This drive felt like going on a treadmill

  • MyNameIsPitt
    65 points Jan 14,2019, 1:23pm

    The best part about this drive is how many times the refs tried to bail out the Eagles...and it didn’t even fucking faze the Saints at all.

  • ConqueringMyDemons
    7 points Jan 14,2019, 2:56pm

    Extremely impressive.

  • TDaGatorDolphin
    12 points Jan 14,2019, 2:19pm

    I remember getting up to get a drink maybe 3 minutes into this drive, and then I ended up talking to one of my friends for a second; when I came back the drive timer said like 10 minutes or something. I very audibly said “Jesus, the Saints still have the ball?!”

  • MisterrAlex
    6 points Jan 14,2019, 1:23pm

    At the 3rd time they converted I thought at that point they were intentionally doing it to bleed the clock

  • IseeNekidPeople
    7 points Jan 14,2019, 11:34am

    Taken from this about the drive.

  • Rnorman3
    5 points Jan 14,2019, 4:23pm

    Man, so that’s how you keep drives from just dying when you get a holding penalty - just get all 20 yards on a pass to Michael Thomas.

    My teams have been doing it wrong. We’ve been doing this thing where you run the ball for somewhere between 2-4 yards on the first 2 downs. Then you try to pick up the first down by passing on third down. But you can’t ever get any kind of penalty the entire game - if you do, you lose 10 yards and of course that’s an impossible obstacle to overcome so you just have to punt it away and try again next drive if that happens.

    We should really try this strategy the Saints use instead. It seems more effective.

  • watertaco
    9 points Jan 14,2019, 3:48pm

    The refs wanted to give it to the Eagles so badly, but we just kept saying "nope".

  • fortwaynebatman
    4 points Jan 14,2019, 3:17pm

    Amazing. Who Dat

  • TheRaddd
    2 points Jan 14,2019, 6:14pm

    I called that drive the fuckin Soul Taker.

  • beastrace
    1 points Jan 14,2019, 3:53pm

    ugh giving up that 20 yard catch on 3rd and 16 was so deflating.

  • marthynolthof
    1 points Jan 14,2019, 5:31pm

    What a phenomenal game, unprecedented post season comeback for the Saints!

  • Newsbreak32
    1 points Jan 14,2019, 5:45pm

    Smh should of never happened

  • LSU_BAW
    1 points Jan 14,2019, 6:01pm

    Got bailed out on a weak holding call when they were backed up

  • GeriatricGynaecology
    -8 points Jan 14,2019, 11:38am

    I saw enough of it, thanks.

  • WHYN0TZER0
    -56 points Jan 14,2019, 11:45am

    A drive cannot be 117 yards, but I get what you are saying

COMMENTS

  • Dogkyle
    421 points Jan 14,2019, 11:48am

    Some say the Saints are still scoring and getting called for holding, in a never ending Sisyphean loop.

  • Eargoe
    222 points Jan 14,2019, 11:45am

    They couldn't stop Michael Thomas at all.

  • JosephSmithRapedKidz
    175 points Jan 14,2019, 1:50pm

    Remember on this drive when Taysom Hill was wide open as a WR on a 46 yard TD catch with like 5 yards on the safety, but Brees underthrew him. Taysom jogged back to the huddle and 10 seconds later Taysom threw a perfect 46 yard pass as a QB that was called back for a hold. Then 2/3 of the next plays he acted as a blocking TE and made a critical block for Kamara?

  • pottersquash
    74 points Jan 14,2019, 12:46pm

    The Saints OL said after game they got exhausted on this drive. Imagine how Eagles must've felt.

  • UsernameChecksOut104
    108 points Jan 14,2019, 11:46am

    Felt like they were getting penalties and still picking up first downs just to fuck with Jim Schwartz

  • ballinskary
    42 points Jan 14,2019, 12:56pm

    The Saints were marching in for the entire third quarter.

  • IseeNekidPeople
    44 points Jan 14,2019, 11:53am

    I messed up the title, I needed to say either 18 play 92 yard drive or 22 play 117 yard drive but whatever it's Monday.

  • throwaway1212378
    43 points Jan 14,2019, 12:54pm

    Every time something good happened I was looking for the flag

  • AlexNyko
    17 points Jan 14,2019, 1:33pm

    5 times they were 15 or more yards away from 1st down.

  • KikkomanSauce
    15 points Jan 14,2019, 3:38pm

    I've seen Payton/Brees rip out a defense's heart on plenty of occasions, but this was just...oof.

    They were at X & 20 three times! Not only did the sheer amount of time and plays suck out their physical energy, to still end up giving up a TD after all that shit...gotta be demoralizing.

    Gotta give it to the Philly D though. They fought tooth and nail that entire game, while both the Saints O and lack of Philly O wore them out big time.

  • fabledforeigntongues
    8 points Jan 14,2019, 12:53pm

    This drive felt like going on a treadmill

  • MyNameIsPitt
    65 points Jan 14,2019, 1:23pm

    The best part about this drive is how many times the refs tried to bail out the Eagles...and it didn’t even fucking faze the Saints at all.

  • ConqueringMyDemons
    7 points Jan 14,2019, 2:56pm

    Extremely impressive.

  • TDaGatorDolphin
    12 points Jan 14,2019, 2:19pm

    I remember getting up to get a drink maybe 3 minutes into this drive, and then I ended up talking to one of my friends for a second; when I came back the drive timer said like 10 minutes or something. I very audibly said “Jesus, the Saints still have the ball?!”

  • MisterrAlex
    6 points Jan 14,2019, 1:23pm

    At the 3rd time they converted I thought at that point they were intentionally doing it to bleed the clock

  • IseeNekidPeople
    7 points Jan 14,2019, 11:34am

    Taken from this about the drive.

  • Rnorman3
    5 points Jan 14,2019, 4:23pm

    Man, so that’s how you keep drives from just dying when you get a holding penalty - just get all 20 yards on a pass to Michael Thomas.

    My teams have been doing it wrong. We’ve been doing this thing where you run the ball for somewhere between 2-4 yards on the first 2 downs. Then you try to pick up the first down by passing on third down. But you can’t ever get any kind of penalty the entire game - if you do, you lose 10 yards and of course that’s an impossible obstacle to overcome so you just have to punt it away and try again next drive if that happens.

    We should really try this strategy the Saints use instead. It seems more effective.

  • watertaco
    9 points Jan 14,2019, 3:48pm

    The refs wanted to give it to the Eagles so badly, but we just kept saying "nope".

  • fortwaynebatman
    4 points Jan 14,2019, 3:17pm

    Amazing. Who Dat

  • TheRaddd
    2 points Jan 14,2019, 6:14pm

    I called that drive the fuckin Soul Taker.

  • beastrace
    1 points Jan 14,2019, 3:53pm

    ugh giving up that 20 yard catch on 3rd and 16 was so deflating.

  • marthynolthof
    1 points Jan 14,2019, 5:31pm

    What a phenomenal game, unprecedented post season comeback for the Saints!

  • Newsbreak32
    1 points Jan 14,2019, 5:45pm

    Smh should of never happened

  • LSU_BAW
    1 points Jan 14,2019, 6:01pm

    Got bailed out on a weak holding call when they were backed up

  • GeriatricGynaecology
    -8 points Jan 14,2019, 11:38am

    I saw enough of it, thanks.

  • WHYN0TZER0
    -56 points Jan 14,2019, 11:45am

    A drive cannot be 117 yards, but I get what you are saying

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Teams Points Scored vs Points Against [OC]

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COMMENTS

  • zjrk
    69 points Jan 04,2019, 1:01pm

    Only one in our bracket to miss the playoffs I think. That's... interesting.

  • thefanfolio
    47 points Jan 04,2019, 1:04pm

    Kudos to the 49ers for grabbing the 2nd overall pick despite not being near the 2nd worst team.

  • woodlickin
    33 points Jan 04,2019, 1:02pm

    BUCCANEERS ARE AN OFFENSIVE TEAM AND NOT A POOR TEAM I LIKE THIS FUCKING CHART

  • Warhawk137
    26 points Jan 04,2019, 1:07pm

    Get out of the way Seattle!

  • SportsAnalyticsGuy
    9 points Jan 04,2019, 12:42pm

    By popular demand, here is another version of the post I submitted yesterday. Instead of using total yards, I used points for and against per game to plot teams.

  • Arkayna
    5 points Jan 04,2019, 1:22pm

    Now put diagonal lines from the center to each corner giving us a bit more accuracy with subdivisions.

  • froibo
    5 points Jan 04,2019, 3:27pm

    Neat...Bears, Saints, Chiefs all fall on a 45 degree line.

  • jaydeekay
    3 points Jan 04,2019, 5:43pm

    The interesting thing about this graph visually is that you can almost draw a rectangle whose bottom left is at Philly and goes up and to the right in order to capture all the playoff teams.

    One exception to that box is Dallas on the left side, whose scoring offense was worse than Philly and significantly worse than the rest of the playoff teams, but who play in a perennially highly contested division and whose defense stiffened up very well to close out the year.

    The other exceptions are LAR and KC who showed that unbelievable offenses can overcome middling-to-poor defenses to secure a first round bye.

    Honorable mentions go to Pittsburgh and Minnesota for clearly being in the same ballpark as all the playoff teams but barely missing.

  • ARandomWoollyMammoth
    3 points Jan 04,2019, 4:03pm

    Arizona and Oakland were just so bad wow

  • mrohdubs
    7 points Jan 04,2019, 1:06pm

    Why on earth is the defensive points axis inverted??

  • markievegeta
    2 points Jan 04,2019, 4:37pm

    This resolves a few issues from the previous chart.

    We now know how to feel about Seattle. It's the Saints not the Steelers who are the standout balanced team.

    And green bay are half bad :)

  • hdizzydawg
    2 points Jan 04,2019, 4:41pm

    definitely good to be in the top right and bad to be in the bottom left. but the other two quadrants don’t really show if you’re good or bad because they’re subject to gameflow.

  • diego-x
    2 points Jan 04,2019, 2:16pm

    Man, it’s ok to call your “poor teams” bad teams.

  • jpk17041
    1 points Jan 04,2019, 3:20pm

    ...Balanced?

  • Er_Pto
    1 points Jan 04,2019, 7:10pm

    Honestly, as a Miami fan I'm sad that the bills will be pretty damn good in the coming years. Congrats to yall tho, someone has to make it out of the AFC east basement

  • CanIGetAMic
    2 points Jan 04,2019, 7:18pm

    Why.. uhh.. why do the Seahawks get to be on top of us? I prefer being on top.

  • AliveInTheFuture
    1 points Jan 04,2019, 7:54pm

    KC, you're so weird.

  • -CMC22-
    1 points Jan 04,2019, 1:02pm

    NO going all the way

  • eloel-
    -1 points Jan 04,2019, 6:30pm

    I really dislike the offensive/defensive lines being horizontal/vertical. They really should be diagonal, probably at 45 degrees.

COMMENTS

  • zjrk
    69 points Jan 04,2019, 1:01pm

    Only one in our bracket to miss the playoffs I think. That's... interesting.

  • thefanfolio
    47 points Jan 04,2019, 1:04pm

    Kudos to the 49ers for grabbing the 2nd overall pick despite not being near the 2nd worst team.

  • woodlickin
    33 points Jan 04,2019, 1:02pm

    BUCCANEERS ARE AN OFFENSIVE TEAM AND NOT A POOR TEAM I LIKE THIS FUCKING CHART

  • jmurks
    32 points Jan 04,2019, 1:26pm

    I would argue that the poor teams are also balanced. Good chart.

  • Warhawk137
    26 points Jan 04,2019, 1:07pm

    Get out of the way Seattle!

  • SportsAnalyticsGuy
    9 points Jan 04,2019, 12:42pm

    By popular demand, here is another version of the post I submitted yesterday. Instead of using total yards, I used points for and against per game to plot teams.

  • Arkayna
    5 points Jan 04,2019, 1:22pm

    Now put diagonal lines from the center to each corner giving us a bit more accuracy with subdivisions.

  • froibo
    5 points Jan 04,2019, 3:27pm

    Neat...Bears, Saints, Chiefs all fall on a 45 degree line.

  • jaydeekay
    3 points Jan 04,2019, 5:43pm

    The interesting thing about this graph visually is that you can almost draw a rectangle whose bottom left is at Philly and goes up and to the right in order to capture all the playoff teams.

    One exception to that box is Dallas on the left side, whose scoring offense was worse than Philly and significantly worse than the rest of the playoff teams, but who play in a perennially highly contested division and whose defense stiffened up very well to close out the year.

    The other exceptions are LAR and KC who showed that unbelievable offenses can overcome middling-to-poor defenses to secure a first round bye.

    Honorable mentions go to Pittsburgh and Minnesota for clearly being in the same ballpark as all the playoff teams but barely missing.

  • ARandomWoollyMammoth
    3 points Jan 04,2019, 4:03pm

    Arizona and Oakland were just so bad wow

  • mrohdubs
    7 points Jan 04,2019, 1:06pm

    Why on earth is the defensive points axis inverted??

  • markievegeta
    2 points Jan 04,2019, 4:37pm

    This resolves a few issues from the previous chart.

    We now know how to feel about Seattle. It's the Saints not the Steelers who are the standout balanced team.

    And green bay are half bad :)

  • hdizzydawg
    2 points Jan 04,2019, 4:41pm

    definitely good to be in the top right and bad to be in the bottom left. but the other two quadrants don’t really show if you’re good or bad because they’re subject to gameflow.

  • diego-x
    2 points Jan 04,2019, 2:16pm

    Man, it’s ok to call your “poor teams” bad teams.

  • jpk17041
    1 points Jan 04,2019, 3:20pm

    ...Balanced?

  • Er_Pto
    1 points Jan 04,2019, 7:10pm

    Honestly, as a Miami fan I'm sad that the bills will be pretty damn good in the coming years. Congrats to yall tho, someone has to make it out of the AFC east basement

  • CanIGetAMic
    2 points Jan 04,2019, 7:18pm

    Why.. uhh.. why do the Seahawks get to be on top of us? I prefer being on top.

  • AliveInTheFuture
    1 points Jan 04,2019, 7:54pm

    KC, you're so weird.

  • -CMC22-
    1 points Jan 04,2019, 1:02pm

    NO going all the way

  • eloel-
    -1 points Jan 04,2019, 6:30pm

    I really dislike the offensive/defensive lines being horizontal/vertical. They really should be diagonal, probably at 45 degrees.

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2019 Regular Season Team Statistics [OC]

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COMMENTS

  • WauliePaulnuts
    97 points Jan 03,2019, 3:13pm

    Seattle is simultaneously offensive, defensive, balanced and bad

  • PodricksPhallus
    69 points Jan 03,2019, 3:13pm

    I would argue that Arizona was incredibly offensive this year

  • Cavs2018_Champs
    92 points Jan 03,2019, 3:12pm

    So top right corner is the best?

    How did Pittsburgh miss the playoffs??

  • GickDobbler
    15 points Jan 03,2019, 3:12pm

    It’s so bad that I knew exactly where to look to find us instantly

  • BKusser25
    11 points Jan 03,2019, 3:32pm

    I STILL don't know if the Seahawks are good or not.

  • the_fuzzy_stoner
    10 points Jan 03,2019, 3:20pm

    I feel personally attacked.

  • sadfootballfan
    10 points Jan 03,2019, 3:17pm

    Well I thought our defense was pretty offensive tbh

  • Maad-Dog
    10 points Jan 03,2019, 3:30pm

    Lmao we're above average. Us and the Texans, basically the same team

  • Dual-Screen
    10 points Jan 03,2019, 3:40pm

    So that's what Sherman meant when he said Seattle was a "middle of the road" team!

  • MrClutch86
    10 points Jan 03,2019, 3:11pm

    Yay, according to this we aren't a bad team

  • 3261998
    63 points Jan 03,2019, 3:11pm

    That formula KC has going on is not sustainable at all. No matter how good you think Mahomes is. Ask Drew Brees how much he won when he was having to bomb it to keep the Saints relevant.

  • Muninn088
    7 points Jan 03,2019, 3:21pm

    Dallas is a defensive team. What a world we live in.

    This seems like a graph that doesn't tell much of the story in a meaningful way. It's interesting, but you could be forgiven for thinking the Giants or Oakland weren't that bad this year.

  • MWiatrak2077
    4 points Jan 03,2019, 3:15pm

    Top 5 defense for the last 8 games don't @ me (Lions fan)

  • Justfor3months
    7 points Jan 03,2019, 3:20pm

    Ahh Seahawks, right in the middle of all. I feel like this perfectly visualized our team this year

  • 2kungfu4u
    5 points Jan 03,2019, 3:39pm

    Does this account for overtime? Browns played 4 OT games so their yards allowed/gained is going to be inflated for example

  • muddydinosaur99
    7 points Jan 03,2019, 3:49pm

    AZ didn’t even hit 4000 yards from scrimmage? That’s awful

  • 0ctologist
    5 points Jan 03,2019, 4:32pm

    I feel like this should be based on points allowed/points scored instead of yards.

    “Bend don’t break” is a defensive mantra for a reason.

  • agarret83
    7 points Jan 03,2019, 3:30pm

    Yards isn’t a good metric for this

  • norskie7
    3 points Jan 03,2019, 5:24pm

    Holy shit we didn't even get 4000 yards

    If anyone asks why we fired Wilks, this is why

  • OkArmordillo
    2 points Jan 03,2019, 3:22pm

    This is the 2018 season not 2019.

  • muddydinosaur99
    2 points Jan 03,2019, 3:50pm

    If BAL had a legitimate QB, they’d win the Super Bowl.

  • BKusser25
    4 points Jan 03,2019, 3:34pm
  • unitedairlineeeeees
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 4:01pm

    Unrelated but why are the rams “LA” not “LAR” since there are two teams in LA

  • TheDolphinGamer96
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 4:21pm

    The Eagles give up a lot of yards with Gym Shorts' scheme but interesting nonetheless.

  • KonThePharaoh
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 4:28pm

    So is this saying we had the best defense and an above average offense?

  • jtd2013
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 5:01pm

    Hold on, hold on, hold on...are you trying to tell me KC has a bad defense?

  • silenttrees1117
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 5:45pm

    If only Jeff Fischer was coaching we’d get another middle of the pack squad.

  • xbuck33
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 6:01pm

    At the beginning of the year, if you asked me where i would find the browns , the offensive team's section would have been my last guess. I love this team!!

  • elkygravey
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 6:53pm

    Can someone do this with points? I've never understood measuring with yards. Yards don't mean anything.

  • mrost
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 6:58pm

    The Bengals defense was better than one thing this year! The Cardinals offense

  • ToastedHunter
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 7:05pm

    yards are a pretty lame way to measure defense

  • Contension
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 7:18pm

    Touchdowns would be better than yards

  • cbq88
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 7:33pm

    Seattle is perfectly balanced

  • CTRL-ALT-REEE
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 7:35pm

    Mhmm and how is Buffalo not a “bad” team?

  • The-Juggernaut_
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 7:44pm

    Fucking hell Arizona

  • McBride055
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 7:54pm

    Fuck yeah, we're not bad.

  • SonofKT
    0 points Jan 03,2019, 6:12pm

    How is Adam Gase such a hot coaching candidate but had less to work with than Bowles??

COMMENTS

  • WauliePaulnuts
    97 points Jan 03,2019, 3:13pm

    Seattle is simultaneously offensive, defensive, balanced and bad

  • PodricksPhallus
    69 points Jan 03,2019, 3:13pm

    I would argue that Arizona was incredibly offensive this year

  • Cavs2018_Champs
    92 points Jan 03,2019, 3:12pm

    So top right corner is the best?

    How did Pittsburgh miss the playoffs??

  • huge_jazz
    42 points Jan 03,2019, 3:13pm

    arizona is like that kid that trips all the time during the race

  • GickDobbler
    15 points Jan 03,2019, 3:12pm

    It’s so bad that I knew exactly where to look to find us instantly

  • BKusser25
    11 points Jan 03,2019, 3:32pm

    I STILL don't know if the Seahawks are good or not.

  • the_fuzzy_stoner
    10 points Jan 03,2019, 3:20pm

    I feel personally attacked.

  • sadfootballfan
    10 points Jan 03,2019, 3:17pm

    Well I thought our defense was pretty offensive tbh

  • Maad-Dog
    10 points Jan 03,2019, 3:30pm

    Lmao we're above average. Us and the Texans, basically the same team

  • Dual-Screen
    10 points Jan 03,2019, 3:40pm

    So that's what Sherman meant when he said Seattle was a "middle of the road" team!

  • MrClutch86
    10 points Jan 03,2019, 3:11pm

    Yay, according to this we aren't a bad team

  • 3261998
    63 points Jan 03,2019, 3:11pm

    That formula KC has going on is not sustainable at all. No matter how good you think Mahomes is. Ask Drew Brees how much he won when he was having to bomb it to keep the Saints relevant.

  • Muninn088
    7 points Jan 03,2019, 3:21pm

    Dallas is a defensive team. What a world we live in.

    This seems like a graph that doesn't tell much of the story in a meaningful way. It's interesting, but you could be forgiven for thinking the Giants or Oakland weren't that bad this year.

  • MWiatrak2077
    4 points Jan 03,2019, 3:15pm

    Top 5 defense for the last 8 games don't @ me (Lions fan)

  • Justfor3months
    7 points Jan 03,2019, 3:20pm

    Ahh Seahawks, right in the middle of all. I feel like this perfectly visualized our team this year

  • 2kungfu4u
    5 points Jan 03,2019, 3:39pm

    Does this account for overtime? Browns played 4 OT games so their yards allowed/gained is going to be inflated for example

  • muddydinosaur99
    7 points Jan 03,2019, 3:49pm

    AZ didn’t even hit 4000 yards from scrimmage? That’s awful

  • 0ctologist
    5 points Jan 03,2019, 4:32pm

    I feel like this should be based on points allowed/points scored instead of yards.

    “Bend don’t break” is a defensive mantra for a reason.

  • agarret83
    7 points Jan 03,2019, 3:30pm

    Yards isn’t a good metric for this

  • norskie7
    3 points Jan 03,2019, 5:24pm

    Holy shit we didn't even get 4000 yards

    If anyone asks why we fired Wilks, this is why

  • OkArmordillo
    2 points Jan 03,2019, 3:22pm

    This is the 2018 season not 2019.

  • muddydinosaur99
    2 points Jan 03,2019, 3:50pm

    If BAL had a legitimate QB, they’d win the Super Bowl.

  • BKusser25
    4 points Jan 03,2019, 3:34pm
  • unitedairlineeeeees
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 4:01pm

    Unrelated but why are the rams “LA” not “LAR” since there are two teams in LA

  • TheDolphinGamer96
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 4:21pm

    The Eagles give up a lot of yards with Gym Shorts' scheme but interesting nonetheless.

  • KonThePharaoh
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 4:28pm

    So is this saying we had the best defense and an above average offense?

  • jtd2013
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 5:01pm

    Hold on, hold on, hold on...are you trying to tell me KC has a bad defense?

  • silenttrees1117
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 5:45pm

    If only Jeff Fischer was coaching we’d get another middle of the pack squad.

  • xbuck33
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 6:01pm

    At the beginning of the year, if you asked me where i would find the browns , the offensive team's section would have been my last guess. I love this team!!

  • elkygravey
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 6:53pm

    Can someone do this with points? I've never understood measuring with yards. Yards don't mean anything.

  • mrost
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 6:58pm

    The Bengals defense was better than one thing this year! The Cardinals offense

  • ToastedHunter
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 7:05pm

    yards are a pretty lame way to measure defense

  • Contension
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 7:18pm

    Touchdowns would be better than yards

  • cbq88
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 7:33pm

    Seattle is perfectly balanced

  • CTRL-ALT-REEE
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 7:35pm

    Mhmm and how is Buffalo not a “bad” team?

  • The-Juggernaut_
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 7:44pm

    Fucking hell Arizona

  • McBride055
    1 points Jan 03,2019, 7:54pm

    Fuck yeah, we're not bad.

  • SonofKT
    0 points Jan 03,2019, 6:12pm

    How is Adam Gase such a hot coaching candidate but had less to work with than Bowles??

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The 2018 Seahawks offense had 5,653 total yards, the same exact total their opponents put up against them all season

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COMMENTS

  • seymourbuttes91
    50 points Jan 02,2019, 3:30pm

    11/14 on 4th down conversions is pretty fucking great too.

  • LubbockGuy95
    73 points Jan 02,2019, 3:26pm

    Perfectly balanced

  • alx69
    36 points Jan 02,2019, 3:27pm

    inb4 thanos

  • 27Christian27
    5 points Jan 02,2019, 4:01pm

    they must have a positive turnover margin

  • Jayhoffa75
    5 points Jan 02,2019, 3:27pm

    Pete would like this

  • BellBilly32
    8 points Jan 02,2019, 3:39pm

    I remember they blew out the 49ers but Nick Mullens still threw for like 400+ yards.

  • clinpath
    1 points Jan 02,2019, 5:40pm

    So beautiful. Yet so neutral.

  • run-26_2
    0 points Jan 02,2019, 3:49pm

    RIP Cowboys

COMMENTS

  • seymourbuttes91
    50 points Jan 02,2019, 3:30pm

    11/14 on 4th down conversions is pretty fucking great too.

  • LubbockGuy95
    73 points Jan 02,2019, 3:26pm

    Perfectly balanced

  • alx69
    36 points Jan 02,2019, 3:27pm

    inb4 thanos

  • reality_czech
    8 points Jan 02,2019, 3:27pm

    this has been posted several times before, but I like that you attached a graphic

  • 27Christian27
    5 points Jan 02,2019, 4:01pm

    they must have a positive turnover margin

  • Jayhoffa75
    5 points Jan 02,2019, 3:27pm

    Pete would like this

  • BellBilly32
    8 points Jan 02,2019, 3:39pm

    I remember they blew out the 49ers but Nick Mullens still threw for like 400+ yards.

  • clinpath
    1 points Jan 02,2019, 5:40pm

    So beautiful. Yet so neutral.

  • run-26_2
    0 points Jan 02,2019, 3:49pm

    RIP Cowboys

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2019 NFL schedule matchups: Grid visualization

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COMMENTS

  • Inkblot9
    2351 points Dec 31,2018, 9:29pm

    Each team plays:

    1) Six divisional games, three teams twice each: same row and color; each division is surrounded by a thick border. Example: Baltimore plays Pittsburgh, Cleveland, and Cincinnati twice each.

    2) Ten non-divisional games, ten teams once each: any other team (outside the division) in the same row, column, or background color. Example: Baltimore plays the L.A. Rams, Seattle, San Francisco, Arizona (same row), New England, Miami, Buffalo, N.Y. Jets (same color), Kansas City, and Houston (same column) once each.

  • Lefaid
    889 points Dec 31,2018, 11:45pm

    So does NBC already have Patriots vs Cowboys reserved or something?

  • ChipKellysShoeStore
    69 points Jan 01,2019, 1:28am

    Annual reminder teams can change a lot during the offseason/regress/rookies can make strides/new FAs so it’s hard to predict who’s gonna have an easy or hard schedule

  • pound30
    462 points Dec 31,2018, 10:55pm

    Miami is fucked next season. That is what I see.

  • Doodenmier
    49 points Jan 01,2019, 2:22am

    Wait, we don't play Seattle? Surely there must be an error because we're honorary division-mates as of the mid-2010s!

  • saulfineman
    171 points Jan 01,2019, 12:00am

    Wow, my team plays 4 games against 1st place teams, 4 against 2nd place teams, 4 against 3rd place teams and 4 against 4th place teams!

    How about your team? (insert conspiracy theories on team's Facebook page from fans claiming the NFL is rigged)

  • crackleslap
    352 points Dec 31,2018, 10:33pm

    NFCS, AFCS, NFCW, Philly and Minnesota? Oof. Tough schedule.

  • NealioTheDealio
    40 points Dec 31,2018, 11:45pm

    Nice chart! I always talk to people about the schedule for the Colts and rarely does anyone know how it works until I explain it to them. Really good way to go about scheduling IMO.

  • Nuzavu
    32 points Jan 01,2019, 1:44am

    I bet you're nutty at sudoku

  • Looseseal13
    180 points Dec 31,2018, 11:21pm

    Holy shit, it finally makes sense to me. Seriously, seeing it displayed this way is super helpful. Good job.

  • GaryAGalindo
    94 points Jan 01,2019, 12:12am

    Browns gonna go 9-6-1 in 2019. Calling it now.

  • Naharke31
    71 points Jan 01,2019, 12:29am

    I feel like we play Seattle every year

  • Bigsmoothmachine
    108 points Dec 31,2018, 10:48pm

    Took me a while to figure out, but after some reading, I've realized my Lions are going to get beat up next season. 9/10 for the work 2/10 for making my depression worse

  • TheSymbolOfPeace
    56 points Jan 01,2019, 1:36am

    Seattle is out to fight every other birb team next year.

  • universalproduct
    13 points Dec 31,2018, 10:11pm

    Excellent job

  • but-uh
    12 points Jan 01,2019, 1:04am

    Obviously a long off-season ahead, and post season, but...

    Miami and the Jets are going to undergo large coaching overhauls, and NE has a much tougher schedule than us with KC and Houston, as opposed to us facing the Broncos (another coaching overhaul) and the Titans (who we beat this year.)

    For less than three days post season I'm feeling pretty optimistic.

  • BobC813
    12 points Jan 01,2019, 2:20am

    Well, at least we had the easiest schedule this year..

  • sexualbeefcake
    11 points Dec 31,2018, 11:00pm

    AFC West AND NFC South, kill me

  • cjmccarley
    52 points Dec 31,2018, 10:52pm

    Should be cool watching Rodgers vs Mahomes next year, would be a cool SNF or MNF game (provided better MNF production).

    Also looks like like a it’s very possible for the browns to win a bunch of games provided they pick up where they left off next year. Would be awesome to go from winless to playoffs/division leader in two years.

    edit: Also want to talk about how schedules are made to potentially explain to other people how they work and clarify something I just figured out from this neat graphic: All teams play everyone in their division 2x each, bringing them 6 games. They also play every team in one of the other divisions in their own conference once each bringing them up to 10 games. Then they play every team in one division from the other conference once to bring them to 14 games, and after that they play one team each from the two remaining divisions in their conference.

    Example team for 2019 - The Packers:

    1.) Their Division (NFCN) - 6 games (Bears 2x, Vikings 2x, Lions 2x)

    2.) AFCW - 4 games (Chiefs, Chargers, Broncos, Raiders)

    3.) NFCE - 4 games (Cowboys, Eagles, Redskins, Giants)

    4.) 1 team from NFCW (49ers)

    5.) 1 team from NFCS (Panthers)

    The thing I wanted to confirm about just learning is that the two teams they play from the remaining division in their conference are determined by their final ranking in their division at the end of the season. As in, the Packers play the 49ers and Panthers because they're all ranked 3rd in the division at the end of the season.

  • wokenupbybacon
    9 points Jan 01,2019, 2:18am

    We're not playing Green Bay.

    ...

    Huh. I know why, it's just abnormal. I think this will be only the second season of Wilson's career he doesn't play them.

    Still playing Carolina though, as usual.

  • HeyMrStarkIFeelGreat
    7 points Jan 01,2019, 2:44am

    You did a great job with this visualization. I've known the "algorithm" for a while, but it's always been tough to describe to others. I'm going to share this with my friends.

    Also, I like the colors you used for the NFC. No reason.

  • CongratsBroGoodJob
    16 points Jan 01,2019, 3:11am

    what i'm really drunk but i also don't fucking understand this

  • Maad-Dog
    7 points Jan 01,2019, 3:23am

    Of course we have to face the Browns while theyre growing into a powerhouse

  • -Ein
    6 points Jan 01,2019, 12:45am

    Weak; Patriots, Saints, and Bears on the road.

  • bob_ross_happy_tree
    5 points Jan 01,2019, 1:36am

    Bravo! Love your visualization.

  • SuttonScowl
    6 points Jan 01,2019, 1:57am

    Leave it to a fellow Poke to make a cool chart like this.

  • AGruber73
    6 points Jan 01,2019, 2:00am

    Didn't the NFC North and NFC East play against each other this year? They wouldn't play again would they?

  • theJiveMaster
    7 points Jan 01,2019, 4:04am

    Ours is looking super easy. I mean playing the NFC East always sucks and we have the Pats, but otherwise most of those teams were hot garbage this year. Including us, of course. Of course with all the parity it's a shitshow, but we could actually be in a pretty good position. We looked a lot better as the year went on and lost a lot of close games. It feels like we should be closer to putting everything together than other teams that sucked as hard as us this year, but it's tough to get a lot of optimism going. We've been telling ourselves that since 2012.

    Also have we been playing the Bucs a lot lately? It feels like it.

    edit: just looked it up we've totally been playing the Bucs a lot recently. Maybe we'll get a nice lil rivalry going here.

  • IBlessedTheRainsInIA
    6 points Jan 01,2019, 12:55am

    NFL decided we don’t get shit on for the Mack trade during games that have nothing to do with him so they figured they’d really beat that horse dead next year.

  • Monkeybreath85
    5 points Jan 01,2019, 2:47am

    Wow the Bears schedule will probably be tough

    Rams, Saints, Chiefs, Chargers, Cowboys, Eagles from outside the NFCN

    Edit: Found this https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DvuT8lNUYAI_lFA.jpg:large

  • unndunn
    5 points Jan 01,2019, 4:28am

    Whoever developed this league format deserves huge kudos.

    And this visualization does an excellent job of conveying the format.

  • bellsofwar3
    4 points Jan 01,2019, 8:46am

    Not bad. For the beginners I think you need to mention each team plays the same ranked team in their conference. For instance Houston was first so they play the Patriots and Ravens as well since they were first. The column is understood for the people that get it but I'm referring to the novices.

  • cowboycoco
    32 points Dec 31,2018, 11:21pm

    Oof, Rams, Chicago, Saints, Pats, and A-Aron.

    But at least we get to play the skins twice, Eli twice, and Kirk Cousins, as well as everything else AFCE. Think we can squeak out 9 horizontally. Maybe 1 vertically.

  • DrewFlan
    5 points Jan 01,2019, 2:10am

    Does this mean that year to year any given team only plays two games different than any other team in the division?

  • BurtonBoarder82
    3 points Jan 01,2019, 2:11am

    Is there a set rotation for inter division match ups? Like do we already know if the NFCN will play the NFCW or NFCS the year after next?

  • DtotheOUG
    5 points Jan 01,2019, 2:12am

    TB and Rodgers

    fucc

  • TetrisTech
    4 points Jan 01,2019, 3:17am

    Holy shit we're playing the Pats

  • sowhatchusayin
    4 points Jan 01,2019, 3:24am

    Fuck, so we gotta play Patriots, Bears, Rams, and Saints? Me no likey.

  • SgtSnapple
    3 points Jan 01,2019, 6:09am

    yooo fuck this broken ass schedule rip 2019

  • Kly_Macks
    3 points Jan 01,2019, 9:27am

    KC vs. CHI is a primetime game no doubt.

  • Eat-Shit-Bob-Ross
    18 points Dec 31,2018, 11:07pm

    i feel bad for miami. play the nfc north, chargers and the colts. they are screwed.

  • ReaddittiddeR
    8 points Dec 31,2018, 11:03pm

    AFC has NEWS and NFC has WENS 😆

  • MangeurDeCowan
    3 points Dec 31,2018, 10:23pm

    brilliant !!

  • Antiquinox
    3 points Jan 01,2019, 12:45am

    NEWS AND WENS

  • hoobsher
    3 points Jan 01,2019, 2:54am

    clever fuckin chart design

  • AlpineAvalanche
    3 points Jan 01,2019, 3:30am

    Based on the colors of the grid, Hawks vs Chiefs SB confirmed.

  • OiShoonerm8
    3 points Jan 01,2019, 4:31am

    We might actually be worse next year.

  • WillasTyrell
    3 points Jan 01,2019, 6:23am

    Browns could conceivably beat the Bengals twice, the Bills, the Jets, the Dolphins, the 49ers, and the Cardinals.

    7 wins right there. If they can take a few from the Ravens and Steelers, if the Broncos game is at home, and if the Titans have a bad day, then the playoffs and the division are realistic.

  • zbaile1074
    3 points Jan 01,2019, 12:54pm

    yikes

  • Hippoman12
    3 points Dec 31,2018, 11:12pm

    This is very clever

  • houtex727
    4 points Dec 31,2018, 11:49pm

    Ok so Texans are goin' up against IND, TEN, JAX x 2 each, plus NO, ATL, CAR, TB... BAL, NE... KC LAC DEN OAK...

    Ow. >.<

    Oh, and yes, this grid is freakin' cool.

    Edit: Ok, ya Traitor supporter.

  • SaltyHistorian24
    9 points Dec 31,2018, 11:38pm

    Oof Dallas got Chicago, New Orleans, and Rams lololol

  • Romoeroticism
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 2:26am

    While I knew that the division leaders in the same conference all played each other, until seeing it visualized like this I hadn't even realized that the 2nd, 3rd and last place teams followed the same pattern.

  • ShahadaBest
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 2:34am

    Keep it up brother, this is great!

  • ViewsFromThe_604
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 3:20am

    This post has been flagged for pass interference

  • halsgoldenring
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 3:23am

    This infographic puts me in the mood for some Prince.

    North

    East

    West

    South

  • steelcurtain87
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 3:35am

    This is fucking gorgeous

  • DarkChrysalis
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 3:39am

    Colts might have one of the toughest schedules next year... not only do we get to play Chiefs, Chargers, Saints and Steelers but ALL FOUR of those are away games. Texans arguably have it worse with those same matchups (Ravens instead of Steelers) but also Patriots at home.

    Time to man up AFCS!

  • ItsLuther
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 3:47am

    Baker v Brady hype

  • Narwhalrus9724
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 4:08am

    How the fuck we get Saints, Rams, Dallas, phylly, chargers, and chiefs along with our divisional opponents? Bears fucked next year.

  • SynthExe
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 4:34am

    Been pulling for Cleveland all year, looks like they're gonna have a hell of a good time next season.

  • PeterG92
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 6:23am

    How will Tomlin fuck this up I wonder.

  • Flyhigh10
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 7:41am

    Its about time our schedule got alot easier

    only games against winning records outside our division is against Chicago and NE

    great grid btw

  • manlisten
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 8:58am

    You smart

  • davidwoz727
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 9:05am

    The Bears have such a hard schedule. Of the 10 teams outside of their division, 6 are in the playoffs this year.

  • lethalparadox
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 9:11am

    We have a hard schedule next year... damn

  • smokeydesperado
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 9:12am

    Hopefully my marriage can take the chiefs playing the Lions.

  • TheMagicalJohnson
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 9:19am

    Oh god how is this an easy schedule:

    Chicago 2x

    Green Bay 2x

    Minnesota 2x

    New York Giants

    Arizona Cardinals

    Tampa Bay

    Kansas City

    LA Chargers

    Oakland

    Denver Broncos

    Washington

    Dallas

    Philly Philly

  • brunseidon
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 9:25am

    Lol we are gonna suck next year too

  • Mynock33
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 9:37am

    It always baffles me how many football fans don't understand the general schedule formula/rotation and bitch about how the NFL "always makes it easy" for certain teams.

  • GIANT316
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 9:39am

    Yeah we getting that #1 pick in 2020 ;)

  • TheBronxIsChafing
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 11:44am

    We're gonna go 5-11 aren't we

  • cowbear42
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 11:47am

    So you’re saying we need to setup week 1 as the most hated game ever. A rematch of Super Bowl LIII between Eagles and Pats.

  • dajodge
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 12:53pm

    Patriots with the super soft schedule for a team who earned a first round bye. At least I can take solace in knowing they are on the decline 🤫

  • mantiseye
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 4:46pm

    one last Brady vs Manning perhaps?

  • Nice_Block
    4 points Jan 01,2019, 1:34am

    R/nfl at the end of next season: Texans schedule too easy cry cry cry

  • Brewmaster83
    4 points Jan 01,2019, 2:40am

    Nite nite Packers

  • squidmuncha
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 1:59am

    We have so many good matchups next year I'm sorry for all you who hate the Pats being in Primetime

  • YoYoChamps
    3 points Jan 01,2019, 2:45am

    We are so fucked next year.

  • annoyedmelo
    4 points Jan 01,2019, 3:59am

    Fuck me

  • bluntrollin
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 5:33am

    Give us the hardest road. West coast travels, and division winners. Fuck it

  • mevic1
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 1:41am

    Cool graph but shit I do not like our opponents next year.

  • jborgjr
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 2:00am

    Anyone know the reasoning behind Kansas City playing @ New England 3 years in a row?

  • St_Elvis
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 2:24am

    Any word on if bears v broncos is in Chicago or Denver?

  • ezpzplz123
    1 points Dec 31,2018, 9:36pm

    Nice visual, I used to always get super confused by the scheduling!

  • PikawaNaNiboo
    1 points Dec 31,2018, 11:52pm

    Brutal schedule for the Saints. So many up and coming teams

  • saulfineman
    1 points Dec 31,2018, 11:58pm

    This is very well done!

  • Bluntmasterflash1
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 2:32am

    Neato. Took me like 3 tries to get to 16, but I did it!

  • FrankSand
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 2:37am

    I can't wait for Baltimore to come to Seattle

  • WalterGrove
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 2:39am

    Looks like the Rams will waltz into the playoffs again next year 😁

  • shishiodun
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 3:09am

    I forgot we play the Raiders next year, going to be interesting

  • MuffinTime
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 3:17am

    Is it always the same year to year for which division you play in the other conference? If not what decides that?

  • ratedRsuperstar75
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 3:40am

    We are most likely screwed with our schedule next season.

  • BoltzmannBrainz
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 3:46am

    Raiders Bears def getting a primetime slot

  • Will_Vintage
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 3:47am

    What's this, the 6th year in a row we play Carolina?"

  • ZMangames
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 3:52am

    Bears play rams, saints, chargers and chiefs :/

  • squ1gglew1ggle
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 4:01am

    Great work OP! Now can someone explain how home and away venues for non-divisonal games are decided...

  • z0rb0r
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 4:20am

    Oh I guess it's that time again when the Giants fans outnumber us in our "home" game.

  • Everwars
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 4:32am

    Yes yes yes! If this this schedule holds true then maybe the Falcons will come to the west coast which they didnt at all this season.

  • ubebread
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 4:35am

    Is Oakland still Oakland?

  • MkPapadopoulos
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 4:42am

    We don't play the Colts? Fuck

  • Samo50
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 4:49am

    Of course the Chiefs have to play the Patriots in New England...again. 😳

  • Lowtan
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 4:52am

    Damn being optimistic i only see 8 wins. We gon have to pull out some upsets.

  • dyldyl9
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 5:28am

    Glad we came in 2nd in our division so we don’t have to play the Packers for once

  • Hawksnester
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 6:03am

    This is a really great visualization. Subscribe.

  • Leet_Noob
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 6:27am

    Bears schedule is way harder than this year. Hope we don’t pull a jags next season.

  • harrynelson
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 7:34am

    Why is the AFC NEWS and the NFC WENS?

  • Ian7242
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 8:06am

    That is so sick thanks!

  • Really_Schruted_It
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 8:29am

    Please call Zohgiyhooooyooohjk

  • TheStarshipCat
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 8:36am

    Browns Patriots is exciting stuff. Steelers don't place first and still end up having to play NE. Tragic

  • OSUfirebird18
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 8:52am

    Yay we have a brutal schedule out of division next year! Chiefs, Chargers and Saints plus always tough Pittsburgh!! /s

  • Icadil
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 8:56am

    The AFC north is going to look very good next year.

  • AceOfAllTradess
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 9:02am

    I.. I really don’t know if I should be worried yet

  • legendary_sponge
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 9:28am

    As a Bills fan, our schedule last year looked brutal compared to this. Ravens, Chargers AFC South, NFC North and as always the Pats twice. Our whole sub saw 4-12/7-9 coming up especially since we put a plan in place to get rid of all those poopoo Whaley contracts.

  • JohnSkippersSugarJar
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 11:05am

    So Bears schedule has Rams, Saints, KC and Chargers? That would've been brutal this year

  • Xanzent
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 11:15am

    The pain of winning: our two games based on record are Rams and Saints.

  • KEVINKOLB
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 11:25am

    The Saints play every other NFC playoff team next year except for the Eagles.

  • BrotherMouzone2
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 11:25am

    I remember the old days before 32 teams and 8-four team divisions.

    There was a Monday Night game between the Packers & Cowboys at old Texas Stadium in 1996. Al Michaels, Dan Dierdorf and Frank Gifford were talking about how strong GB had been that year but how Pack fans could not figure out why they had to travel TO Dallas every single year in the regular season. Bad enough to have to do it in the playoffs.

    Michaels was like "there's a formula that's been determining this....NFC Central #2 plays AT NFC East #1....period" Not sure where the formula came from but the Pack had to come to Dallas like seven straight times in the regular season and postseason and lost every time. They were soooooo happy in 1997 to get The Boys up to Lambeau.

  • darkhorse21980
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 11:28am

    This is excellent. I don't know if there's a way to work the Home/Away on the non-division matchups, but even without it this is pretty solid.

  • Sir_Scizor20
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 11:30am

    RIP easy schedule lol

  • righteousingenuity
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 11:34am

    Good. Allen gets to take a tour of the franchises that beat us in the Super Bowl. We're coming for that booty NFC East.

  • DesertBrandon
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 11:57am

    Man if the rams don’t win it this year they may have missed their chance. Cause unless they make a lot of improvement that schedule next year is crazy good.

  • tstubbs7
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 12:02pm

    This is mind boggling. How?!?

  • ClevalandFanSadface
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 12:28pm

    All four other first round qbs from this year will play against the browns and raven

  • DownstateBearsFan
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 12:47pm

    Tough draw for the Bears, man.

COMMENTS

  • Inkblot9
    2351 points Dec 31,2018, 9:29pm

    Each team plays:

    1) Six divisional games, three teams twice each: same row and color; each division is surrounded by a thick border. Example: Baltimore plays Pittsburgh, Cleveland, and Cincinnati twice each.

    2) Ten non-divisional games, ten teams once each: any other team (outside the division) in the same row, column, or background color. Example: Baltimore plays the L.A. Rams, Seattle, San Francisco, Arizona (same row), New England, Miami, Buffalo, N.Y. Jets (same color), Kansas City, and Houston (same column) once each.

  • Lefaid
    889 points Dec 31,2018, 11:45pm

    So does NBC already have Patriots vs Cowboys reserved or something?

  • ChipKellysShoeStore
    69 points Jan 01,2019, 1:28am

    Annual reminder teams can change a lot during the offseason/regress/rookies can make strides/new FAs so it’s hard to predict who’s gonna have an easy or hard schedule

  • AirborneRodent
    341 points Dec 31,2018, 9:43pm

    This is a really cool way to visualize it. Kudos!

  • pound30
    462 points Dec 31,2018, 10:55pm

    Miami is fucked next season. That is what I see.

  • Doodenmier
    49 points Jan 01,2019, 2:22am

    Wait, we don't play Seattle? Surely there must be an error because we're honorary division-mates as of the mid-2010s!

  • saulfineman
    171 points Jan 01,2019, 12:00am

    Wow, my team plays 4 games against 1st place teams, 4 against 2nd place teams, 4 against 3rd place teams and 4 against 4th place teams!

    How about your team? (insert conspiracy theories on team's Facebook page from fans claiming the NFL is rigged)

  • crackleslap
    352 points Dec 31,2018, 10:33pm

    NFCS, AFCS, NFCW, Philly and Minnesota? Oof. Tough schedule.

  • NealioTheDealio
    40 points Dec 31,2018, 11:45pm

    Nice chart! I always talk to people about the schedule for the Colts and rarely does anyone know how it works until I explain it to them. Really good way to go about scheduling IMO.

  • Nuzavu
    32 points Jan 01,2019, 1:44am

    I bet you're nutty at sudoku

  • Looseseal13
    180 points Dec 31,2018, 11:21pm

    Holy shit, it finally makes sense to me. Seriously, seeing it displayed this way is super helpful. Good job.

  • GaryAGalindo
    94 points Jan 01,2019, 12:12am

    Browns gonna go 9-6-1 in 2019. Calling it now.

  • Naharke31
    71 points Jan 01,2019, 12:29am

    I feel like we play Seattle every year

  • Bigsmoothmachine
    108 points Dec 31,2018, 10:48pm

    Took me a while to figure out, but after some reading, I've realized my Lions are going to get beat up next season. 9/10 for the work 2/10 for making my depression worse

  • TheSymbolOfPeace
    56 points Jan 01,2019, 1:36am

    Seattle is out to fight every other birb team next year.

  • universalproduct
    13 points Dec 31,2018, 10:11pm

    Excellent job

  • but-uh
    12 points Jan 01,2019, 1:04am

    Obviously a long off-season ahead, and post season, but...

    Miami and the Jets are going to undergo large coaching overhauls, and NE has a much tougher schedule than us with KC and Houston, as opposed to us facing the Broncos (another coaching overhaul) and the Titans (who we beat this year.)

    For less than three days post season I'm feeling pretty optimistic.

  • BobC813
    12 points Jan 01,2019, 2:20am

    Well, at least we had the easiest schedule this year..

  • sexualbeefcake
    11 points Dec 31,2018, 11:00pm

    AFC West AND NFC South, kill me

  • cjmccarley
    52 points Dec 31,2018, 10:52pm

    Should be cool watching Rodgers vs Mahomes next year, would be a cool SNF or MNF game (provided better MNF production).

    Also looks like like a it’s very possible for the browns to win a bunch of games provided they pick up where they left off next year. Would be awesome to go from winless to playoffs/division leader in two years.

    edit: Also want to talk about how schedules are made to potentially explain to other people how they work and clarify something I just figured out from this neat graphic: All teams play everyone in their division 2x each, bringing them 6 games. They also play every team in one of the other divisions in their own conference once each bringing them up to 10 games. Then they play every team in one division from the other conference once to bring them to 14 games, and after that they play one team each from the two remaining divisions in their conference.

    Example team for 2019 - The Packers:

    1.) Their Division (NFCN) - 6 games (Bears 2x, Vikings 2x, Lions 2x)

    2.) AFCW - 4 games (Chiefs, Chargers, Broncos, Raiders)

    3.) NFCE - 4 games (Cowboys, Eagles, Redskins, Giants)

    4.) 1 team from NFCW (49ers)

    5.) 1 team from NFCS (Panthers)

    The thing I wanted to confirm about just learning is that the two teams they play from the remaining division in their conference are determined by their final ranking in their division at the end of the season. As in, the Packers play the 49ers and Panthers because they're all ranked 3rd in the division at the end of the season.

  • wokenupbybacon
    9 points Jan 01,2019, 2:18am

    We're not playing Green Bay.

    ...

    Huh. I know why, it's just abnormal. I think this will be only the second season of Wilson's career he doesn't play them.

    Still playing Carolina though, as usual.

  • HeyMrStarkIFeelGreat
    7 points Jan 01,2019, 2:44am

    You did a great job with this visualization. I've known the "algorithm" for a while, but it's always been tough to describe to others. I'm going to share this with my friends.

    Also, I like the colors you used for the NFC. No reason.

  • CongratsBroGoodJob
    16 points Jan 01,2019, 3:11am

    what i'm really drunk but i also don't fucking understand this

  • Maad-Dog
    7 points Jan 01,2019, 3:23am

    Of course we have to face the Browns while theyre growing into a powerhouse

  • -Ein
    6 points Jan 01,2019, 12:45am

    Weak; Patriots, Saints, and Bears on the road.

  • bob_ross_happy_tree
    5 points Jan 01,2019, 1:36am

    Bravo! Love your visualization.

  • SuttonScowl
    6 points Jan 01,2019, 1:57am

    Leave it to a fellow Poke to make a cool chart like this.

  • AGruber73
    6 points Jan 01,2019, 2:00am

    Didn't the NFC North and NFC East play against each other this year? They wouldn't play again would they?

  • theJiveMaster
    7 points Jan 01,2019, 4:04am

    Ours is looking super easy. I mean playing the NFC East always sucks and we have the Pats, but otherwise most of those teams were hot garbage this year. Including us, of course. Of course with all the parity it's a shitshow, but we could actually be in a pretty good position. We looked a lot better as the year went on and lost a lot of close games. It feels like we should be closer to putting everything together than other teams that sucked as hard as us this year, but it's tough to get a lot of optimism going. We've been telling ourselves that since 2012.

    Also have we been playing the Bucs a lot lately? It feels like it.

    edit: just looked it up we've totally been playing the Bucs a lot recently. Maybe we'll get a nice lil rivalry going here.

  • IBlessedTheRainsInIA
    6 points Jan 01,2019, 12:55am

    NFL decided we don’t get shit on for the Mack trade during games that have nothing to do with him so they figured they’d really beat that horse dead next year.

  • Monkeybreath85
    5 points Jan 01,2019, 2:47am

    Wow the Bears schedule will probably be tough

    Rams, Saints, Chiefs, Chargers, Cowboys, Eagles from outside the NFCN

    Edit: Found this https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DvuT8lNUYAI_lFA.jpg:large

  • unndunn
    5 points Jan 01,2019, 4:28am

    Whoever developed this league format deserves huge kudos.

    And this visualization does an excellent job of conveying the format.

  • bellsofwar3
    4 points Jan 01,2019, 8:46am

    Not bad. For the beginners I think you need to mention each team plays the same ranked team in their conference. For instance Houston was first so they play the Patriots and Ravens as well since they were first. The column is understood for the people that get it but I'm referring to the novices.

  • cowboycoco
    32 points Dec 31,2018, 11:21pm

    Oof, Rams, Chicago, Saints, Pats, and A-Aron.

    But at least we get to play the skins twice, Eli twice, and Kirk Cousins, as well as everything else AFCE. Think we can squeak out 9 horizontally. Maybe 1 vertically.

  • DrewFlan
    5 points Jan 01,2019, 2:10am

    Does this mean that year to year any given team only plays two games different than any other team in the division?

  • BurtonBoarder82
    3 points Jan 01,2019, 2:11am

    Is there a set rotation for inter division match ups? Like do we already know if the NFCN will play the NFCW or NFCS the year after next?

  • DtotheOUG
    5 points Jan 01,2019, 2:12am

    TB and Rodgers

    fucc

  • TetrisTech
    4 points Jan 01,2019, 3:17am

    Holy shit we're playing the Pats

  • sowhatchusayin
    4 points Jan 01,2019, 3:24am

    Fuck, so we gotta play Patriots, Bears, Rams, and Saints? Me no likey.

  • SgtSnapple
    3 points Jan 01,2019, 6:09am

    yooo fuck this broken ass schedule rip 2019

  • Kly_Macks
    3 points Jan 01,2019, 9:27am

    KC vs. CHI is a primetime game no doubt.

  • Eat-Shit-Bob-Ross
    18 points Dec 31,2018, 11:07pm

    i feel bad for miami. play the nfc north, chargers and the colts. they are screwed.

  • ReaddittiddeR
    8 points Dec 31,2018, 11:03pm

    AFC has NEWS and NFC has WENS 😆

  • MangeurDeCowan
    3 points Dec 31,2018, 10:23pm

    brilliant !!

  • Antiquinox
    3 points Jan 01,2019, 12:45am

    NEWS AND WENS

  • hoobsher
    3 points Jan 01,2019, 2:54am

    clever fuckin chart design

  • AlpineAvalanche
    3 points Jan 01,2019, 3:30am

    Based on the colors of the grid, Hawks vs Chiefs SB confirmed.

  • OiShoonerm8
    3 points Jan 01,2019, 4:31am

    We might actually be worse next year.

  • WillasTyrell
    3 points Jan 01,2019, 6:23am

    Browns could conceivably beat the Bengals twice, the Bills, the Jets, the Dolphins, the 49ers, and the Cardinals.

    7 wins right there. If they can take a few from the Ravens and Steelers, if the Broncos game is at home, and if the Titans have a bad day, then the playoffs and the division are realistic.

  • zbaile1074
    3 points Jan 01,2019, 12:54pm

    yikes

  • Hippoman12
    3 points Dec 31,2018, 11:12pm

    This is very clever

  • houtex727
    4 points Dec 31,2018, 11:49pm

    Ok so Texans are goin' up against IND, TEN, JAX x 2 each, plus NO, ATL, CAR, TB... BAL, NE... KC LAC DEN OAK...

    Ow. >.<

    Oh, and yes, this grid is freakin' cool.

    Edit: Ok, ya Traitor supporter.

  • SaltyHistorian24
    9 points Dec 31,2018, 11:38pm

    Oof Dallas got Chicago, New Orleans, and Rams lololol

  • Romoeroticism
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 2:26am

    While I knew that the division leaders in the same conference all played each other, until seeing it visualized like this I hadn't even realized that the 2nd, 3rd and last place teams followed the same pattern.

  • ShahadaBest
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 2:34am

    Keep it up brother, this is great!

  • ViewsFromThe_604
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 3:20am

    This post has been flagged for pass interference

  • halsgoldenring
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 3:23am

    This infographic puts me in the mood for some Prince.

    North

    East

    West

    South

  • steelcurtain87
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 3:35am

    This is fucking gorgeous

  • DarkChrysalis
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 3:39am

    Colts might have one of the toughest schedules next year... not only do we get to play Chiefs, Chargers, Saints and Steelers but ALL FOUR of those are away games. Texans arguably have it worse with those same matchups (Ravens instead of Steelers) but also Patriots at home.

    Time to man up AFCS!

  • ItsLuther
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 3:47am

    Baker v Brady hype

  • Narwhalrus9724
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 4:08am

    How the fuck we get Saints, Rams, Dallas, phylly, chargers, and chiefs along with our divisional opponents? Bears fucked next year.

  • SynthExe
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 4:34am

    Been pulling for Cleveland all year, looks like they're gonna have a hell of a good time next season.

  • PeterG92
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 6:23am

    How will Tomlin fuck this up I wonder.

  • Flyhigh10
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 7:41am

    Its about time our schedule got alot easier

    only games against winning records outside our division is against Chicago and NE

    great grid btw

  • manlisten
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 8:58am

    You smart

  • davidwoz727
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 9:05am

    The Bears have such a hard schedule. Of the 10 teams outside of their division, 6 are in the playoffs this year.

  • lethalparadox
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 9:11am

    We have a hard schedule next year... damn

  • smokeydesperado
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 9:12am

    Hopefully my marriage can take the chiefs playing the Lions.

  • TheMagicalJohnson
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 9:19am

    Oh god how is this an easy schedule:

    Chicago 2x

    Green Bay 2x

    Minnesota 2x

    New York Giants

    Arizona Cardinals

    Tampa Bay

    Kansas City

    LA Chargers

    Oakland

    Denver Broncos

    Washington

    Dallas

    Philly Philly

  • brunseidon
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 9:25am

    Lol we are gonna suck next year too

  • Mynock33
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 9:37am

    It always baffles me how many football fans don't understand the general schedule formula/rotation and bitch about how the NFL "always makes it easy" for certain teams.

  • GIANT316
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 9:39am

    Yeah we getting that #1 pick in 2020 ;)

  • TheBronxIsChafing
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 11:44am

    We're gonna go 5-11 aren't we

  • cowbear42
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 11:47am

    So you’re saying we need to setup week 1 as the most hated game ever. A rematch of Super Bowl LIII between Eagles and Pats.

  • dajodge
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 12:53pm

    Patriots with the super soft schedule for a team who earned a first round bye. At least I can take solace in knowing they are on the decline 🤫

  • mantiseye
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 4:46pm

    one last Brady vs Manning perhaps?

  • Nice_Block
    4 points Jan 01,2019, 1:34am

    R/nfl at the end of next season: Texans schedule too easy cry cry cry

  • Brewmaster83
    4 points Jan 01,2019, 2:40am

    Nite nite Packers

  • squidmuncha
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 1:59am

    We have so many good matchups next year I'm sorry for all you who hate the Pats being in Primetime

  • YoYoChamps
    3 points Jan 01,2019, 2:45am

    We are so fucked next year.

  • annoyedmelo
    4 points Jan 01,2019, 3:59am

    Fuck me

  • bluntrollin
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 5:33am

    Give us the hardest road. West coast travels, and division winners. Fuck it

  • mevic1
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 1:41am

    Cool graph but shit I do not like our opponents next year.

  • jborgjr
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 2:00am

    Anyone know the reasoning behind Kansas City playing @ New England 3 years in a row?

  • St_Elvis
    2 points Jan 01,2019, 2:24am

    Any word on if bears v broncos is in Chicago or Denver?

  • ezpzplz123
    1 points Dec 31,2018, 9:36pm

    Nice visual, I used to always get super confused by the scheduling!

  • PikawaNaNiboo
    1 points Dec 31,2018, 11:52pm

    Brutal schedule for the Saints. So many up and coming teams

  • saulfineman
    1 points Dec 31,2018, 11:58pm

    This is very well done!

  • Bluntmasterflash1
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 2:32am

    Neato. Took me like 3 tries to get to 16, but I did it!

  • FrankSand
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 2:37am

    I can't wait for Baltimore to come to Seattle

  • WalterGrove
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 2:39am

    Looks like the Rams will waltz into the playoffs again next year 😁

  • shishiodun
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 3:09am

    I forgot we play the Raiders next year, going to be interesting

  • MuffinTime
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 3:17am

    Is it always the same year to year for which division you play in the other conference? If not what decides that?

  • ratedRsuperstar75
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 3:40am

    We are most likely screwed with our schedule next season.

  • BoltzmannBrainz
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 3:46am

    Raiders Bears def getting a primetime slot

  • Will_Vintage
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 3:47am

    What's this, the 6th year in a row we play Carolina?"

  • ZMangames
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 3:52am

    Bears play rams, saints, chargers and chiefs :/

  • squ1gglew1ggle
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 4:01am

    Great work OP! Now can someone explain how home and away venues for non-divisonal games are decided...

  • z0rb0r
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 4:20am

    Oh I guess it's that time again when the Giants fans outnumber us in our "home" game.

  • Everwars
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 4:32am

    Yes yes yes! If this this schedule holds true then maybe the Falcons will come to the west coast which they didnt at all this season.

  • ubebread
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 4:35am

    Is Oakland still Oakland?

  • MkPapadopoulos
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 4:42am

    We don't play the Colts? Fuck

  • Samo50
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 4:49am

    Of course the Chiefs have to play the Patriots in New England...again. 😳

  • Lowtan
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 4:52am

    Damn being optimistic i only see 8 wins. We gon have to pull out some upsets.

  • dyldyl9
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 5:28am

    Glad we came in 2nd in our division so we don’t have to play the Packers for once

  • Hawksnester
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 6:03am

    This is a really great visualization. Subscribe.

  • Leet_Noob
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 6:27am

    Bears schedule is way harder than this year. Hope we don’t pull a jags next season.

  • harrynelson
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 7:34am

    Why is the AFC NEWS and the NFC WENS?

  • Ian7242
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 8:06am

    That is so sick thanks!

  • Really_Schruted_It
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 8:29am

    Please call Zohgiyhooooyooohjk

  • TheStarshipCat
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 8:36am

    Browns Patriots is exciting stuff. Steelers don't place first and still end up having to play NE. Tragic

  • OSUfirebird18
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 8:52am

    Yay we have a brutal schedule out of division next year! Chiefs, Chargers and Saints plus always tough Pittsburgh!! /s

  • Icadil
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 8:56am

    The AFC north is going to look very good next year.

  • AceOfAllTradess
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 9:02am

    I.. I really don’t know if I should be worried yet

  • legendary_sponge
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 9:28am

    As a Bills fan, our schedule last year looked brutal compared to this. Ravens, Chargers AFC South, NFC North and as always the Pats twice. Our whole sub saw 4-12/7-9 coming up especially since we put a plan in place to get rid of all those poopoo Whaley contracts.

  • JohnSkippersSugarJar
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 11:05am

    So Bears schedule has Rams, Saints, KC and Chargers? That would've been brutal this year

  • Xanzent
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 11:15am

    The pain of winning: our two games based on record are Rams and Saints.

  • KEVINKOLB
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 11:25am

    The Saints play every other NFC playoff team next year except for the Eagles.

  • BrotherMouzone2
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 11:25am

    I remember the old days before 32 teams and 8-four team divisions.

    There was a Monday Night game between the Packers & Cowboys at old Texas Stadium in 1996. Al Michaels, Dan Dierdorf and Frank Gifford were talking about how strong GB had been that year but how Pack fans could not figure out why they had to travel TO Dallas every single year in the regular season. Bad enough to have to do it in the playoffs.

    Michaels was like "there's a formula that's been determining this....NFC Central #2 plays AT NFC East #1....period" Not sure where the formula came from but the Pack had to come to Dallas like seven straight times in the regular season and postseason and lost every time. They were soooooo happy in 1997 to get The Boys up to Lambeau.

  • darkhorse21980
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 11:28am

    This is excellent. I don't know if there's a way to work the Home/Away on the non-division matchups, but even without it this is pretty solid.

  • Sir_Scizor20
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 11:30am

    RIP easy schedule lol

  • righteousingenuity
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 11:34am

    Good. Allen gets to take a tour of the franchises that beat us in the Super Bowl. We're coming for that booty NFC East.

  • DesertBrandon
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 11:57am

    Man if the rams don’t win it this year they may have missed their chance. Cause unless they make a lot of improvement that schedule next year is crazy good.

  • tstubbs7
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 12:02pm

    This is mind boggling. How?!?

  • ClevalandFanSadface
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 12:28pm

    All four other first round qbs from this year will play against the browns and raven

  • DownstateBearsFan
    1 points Jan 01,2019, 12:47pm

    Tough draw for the Bears, man.

● ● ●

The AFC playoff picture is still so murky. Ravens for example

NFL: National Football League Discussion

COMMENTS

  • Padgecap05
    111 points Dec 29,2018, 5:12pm

    Pretty crazy that they could be the number 2 seed still

  • cheddar928
    94 points Dec 29,2018, 5:09pm

    I’m just hoping the Chargers don’t face Ravens first round.

  • TheTrueMaCawbe
    81 points Dec 29,2018, 5:14pm

    Here's the gist of it. (edit:spelling)

    Ravens win? They're in.VS.Ravens lose? They're most likely not.

  • J-C-A-N
    13 points Dec 29,2018, 5:11pm

    Clear as mud.

  • _iPood_
    15 points Dec 29,2018, 6:10pm

    Wow this really puts it in perspective. They can be as high as the 2 seed or out of the playoffs altogether. Crazy.

  • mikebrownhurtsme
    5 points Dec 29,2018, 6:24pm

    What happens if both the Ravens and Steelers win?

  • drock4vu
    6 points Dec 29,2018, 6:39pm

    Same for a lot of the AFC teams on the bubble. Based on tomorrow the Titans could be anything from eliminated from playoff contention to the 2nd seed in the AFC. A lot riding on tomorrow.

  • Untchj
    6 points Dec 29,2018, 6:42pm

    Wasn’t even paying attention to them still being up for the 2 seed, that‘s wild

    Honestly with how bad the Pats have looked x how good Darnold has looked x the potential of Jacksonville’s defense any given week, it’s unlikely but wouldn’t shock me if both NE and Houston lose

  • OfficialHavik
    4 points Dec 29,2018, 6:52pm

    It's that time of year guys!! The headscratching scenario time is upon us.

  • Fishtacoburrito
    4 points Dec 29,2018, 7:02pm

    I like this a lot. There's still reason to play and it keeps a lot of fan bases engaged going into the final week.

    Meanwhile I'm just over here drinking excessively in a dark room.

  • Usrname52
    3 points Dec 29,2018, 7:34pm

    I feel bad rooting against the Browns because they are....the Browns.

    But it's about rooting against the Steelers.

  • DefenderCone97
    2 points Dec 29,2018, 7:22pm

    Reminds me of the Bengals game we had in 2015. We ended up winning the Super Bowl but could've been eliminated instead of winning the first seed.

  • nsfy33
    2 points Dec 29,2018, 7:23pm

    Reminds me of the 2015 Broncos.

    Going into Week 16, they still hadn't clinched a playoff spot. They barely did with an OT win.

    Going into Week 17, they could end up with the 1, 2, 4 or 5 seed.

  • DeepJunglePowerWild
    2 points Dec 29,2018, 7:27pm

    How can they clinch the 4 seed but not the division? Top 4 seeds are division leaders aren’t they?

  • bwburke94
    2 points Dec 29,2018, 7:33pm

    And this doesn't even bring strength of victory into the mix...

  • milzinga
    1 points Dec 29,2018, 7:18pm

    That's crazy that anything from the #2 seed to elimination is possible tomorrow.

  • ZerosCominAfterThe1
    1 points Dec 29,2018, 7:24pm

    Is this new guy good? The guy in the picture?

  • uwaqar
    1 points Dec 29,2018, 7:37pm

    I tried to swipe the picture to see what the next image was. 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • ZarosGuardian
    1 points Dec 29,2018, 7:41pm

    I would love to see the Ravens make #2 seed, but the biggest hurdle is for the Patriots to lose. Everything else is easily obtainable, but the Jets winning is a very tall order. It could be done though. But it's unlikely. Would be a monumental upset though!

  • joethebob
    1 points Dec 29,2018, 7:45pm

    Eliminated if:
    Browns beat Ravens
    Steelers win or tie Bengals

  • sirfugly
    -15 points Dec 29,2018, 5:09pm

    I get this feeling Mayfield is going to light it up while Lamar stinks it up.

  • ositola
    0 points Dec 29,2018, 6:23pm

    So basically they'll be the #4 seed

COMMENTS

  • Padgecap05
    111 points Dec 29,2018, 5:12pm

    Pretty crazy that they could be the number 2 seed still

  • cheddar928
    94 points Dec 29,2018, 5:09pm

    I’m just hoping the Chargers don’t face Ravens first round.

  • TheTrueMaCawbe
    81 points Dec 29,2018, 5:14pm

    Here's the gist of it. (edit:spelling)

    Ravens win? They're in.VS.Ravens lose? They're most likely not.

  • ptbus0
    12 points Dec 29,2018, 6:33pm

    Supposedly the hottest game tomorrow and half of Ohio cant even watch it legally.

  • J-C-A-N
    13 points Dec 29,2018, 5:11pm

    Clear as mud.

  • _iPood_
    15 points Dec 29,2018, 6:10pm

    Wow this really puts it in perspective. They can be as high as the 2 seed or out of the playoffs altogether. Crazy.

  • mikebrownhurtsme
    5 points Dec 29,2018, 6:24pm

    What happens if both the Ravens and Steelers win?

  • drock4vu
    6 points Dec 29,2018, 6:39pm

    Same for a lot of the AFC teams on the bubble. Based on tomorrow the Titans could be anything from eliminated from playoff contention to the 2nd seed in the AFC. A lot riding on tomorrow.

  • Untchj
    6 points Dec 29,2018, 6:42pm

    Wasn’t even paying attention to them still being up for the 2 seed, that‘s wild

    Honestly with how bad the Pats have looked x how good Darnold has looked x the potential of Jacksonville’s defense any given week, it’s unlikely but wouldn’t shock me if both NE and Houston lose

  • OfficialHavik
    4 points Dec 29,2018, 6:52pm

    It's that time of year guys!! The headscratching scenario time is upon us.

  • Fishtacoburrito
    4 points Dec 29,2018, 7:02pm

    I like this a lot. There's still reason to play and it keeps a lot of fan bases engaged going into the final week.

    Meanwhile I'm just over here drinking excessively in a dark room.

  • Usrname52
    3 points Dec 29,2018, 7:34pm

    I feel bad rooting against the Browns because they are....the Browns.

    But it's about rooting against the Steelers.

  • DefenderCone97
    2 points Dec 29,2018, 7:22pm

    Reminds me of the Bengals game we had in 2015. We ended up winning the Super Bowl but could've been eliminated instead of winning the first seed.

  • nsfy33
    2 points Dec 29,2018, 7:23pm

    Reminds me of the 2015 Broncos.

    Going into Week 16, they still hadn't clinched a playoff spot. They barely did with an OT win.

    Going into Week 17, they could end up with the 1, 2, 4 or 5 seed.

  • DeepJunglePowerWild
    2 points Dec 29,2018, 7:27pm

    How can they clinch the 4 seed but not the division? Top 4 seeds are division leaders aren’t they?

  • bwburke94
    2 points Dec 29,2018, 7:33pm

    And this doesn't even bring strength of victory into the mix...

  • milzinga
    1 points Dec 29,2018, 7:18pm

    That's crazy that anything from the #2 seed to elimination is possible tomorrow.

  • ZerosCominAfterThe1
    1 points Dec 29,2018, 7:24pm

    Is this new guy good? The guy in the picture?

  • uwaqar
    1 points Dec 29,2018, 7:37pm

    I tried to swipe the picture to see what the next image was. 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • ZarosGuardian
    1 points Dec 29,2018, 7:41pm

    I would love to see the Ravens make #2 seed, but the biggest hurdle is for the Patriots to lose. Everything else is easily obtainable, but the Jets winning is a very tall order. It could be done though. But it's unlikely. Would be a monumental upset though!

  • joethebob
    1 points Dec 29,2018, 7:45pm

    Eliminated if:
    Browns beat Ravens
    Steelers win or tie Bengals

  • sirfugly
    -15 points Dec 29,2018, 5:09pm

    I get this feeling Mayfield is going to light it up while Lamar stinks it up.

  • ositola
    0 points Dec 29,2018, 6:23pm

    So basically they'll be the #4 seed

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Most recent odds to win Super Bowl 53 (Bovada)

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COMMENTS

  • SamChubbard
    47 points Dec 21,2018, 5:03pm

    Bet me I won’t put my mortgage on the skins

  • superduperm1
    39 points Dec 21,2018, 5:04pm

    Lol at Browns being higher than the Panthers, Redskins and Dolphins.

    The Browns literally need a specific game to tie and a bunch of other things to even have a chance at a wild card spot.

  • Graxter
    13 points Dec 21,2018, 5:04pm

    Ravens and Seahawks line is honestly not that bad.

  • smda31
    6 points Dec 21,2018, 5:15pm

    Ya'll are going to be sorry you didn't put your money on the Panthers when CMC becomes our QB and pulls a Foles.

  • sirhumphry
    11 points Dec 21,2018, 5:02pm

    Steelers seem like a good bet

  • notNOTyouraveragejoe
    5 points Dec 21,2018, 5:07pm

    Colts seem like a good bet. If they make it into playoffs I could see them doing really well.

  • KillingBlade
    3 points Dec 21,2018, 5:11pm

    I don't gamble so I was mightily confused for a minute. Small numbers are good?

  • Meganickster1
    3 points Dec 21,2018, 5:23pm

    Putting my money on the Phins

  • HairyAsHull
    2 points Dec 21,2018, 5:15pm

    Since I'm dumb. If I bet a dollar and dolphins win, does that mean I get 25000?

  • RawhlTahhyde
    2 points Dec 21,2018, 5:26pm

    Lol imagine Heineken leading the Panthers to a super bowl

    Or Josh Johnson for the Skins

  • Ddollar00
    2 points Dec 21,2018, 5:44pm

    I like those chargers odds.

    does anyone know any apps where you can make these kinda bets?

  • DevynHeaven
    2 points Dec 21,2018, 6:27pm

    We're in the top 10 baby!

  • ConjugateBase
    2 points Dec 21,2018, 5:06pm

    Seeing the Browns in the list just makes me happy.

  • TheBoilerCat
    1 points Dec 21,2018, 5:10pm

    Seahawks seem like a decent value at that number.

  • redversfox
    1 points Dec 21,2018, 5:12pm

    Lmao the panthers, redskins, dolphins lines are just shade

  • HairyAsHull
    1 points Dec 21,2018, 5:13pm

    The browns have better odds than the Dolphins

  • Poonslayerjunior
    1 points Dec 21,2018, 5:37pm

    Not sure why the colts are above the Seahawks. They’re probably significantly more likely to miss the playoffs.

  • yeeetgod157
    1 points Dec 21,2018, 5:47pm

    So you are are telling me if I bet 10 dollars on the Cowboys I'll get $27,000? Sign me up for that

  • aksoileau
    1 points Dec 21,2018, 6:06pm

    Subscribe.

  • HouseofRoscoeParrish
    1 points Dec 21,2018, 6:26pm

    Houston vs seatle needs to happen. That superbowl would be niiice.

  • CSMastermind
    1 points Dec 21,2018, 7:00pm

    Texans and the Steelers both seem like good bets.

    Am I allowed to bet against the Patriots at those odds?

    If I understand the line right for every $7 I put in I get $1 if they don't win the Super Bowl? I like those odds.

  • molebowl
    1 points Dec 21,2018, 7:30pm

    Got the Chargers at 30-1. Let’s just say I am really rooting for them.

  • December21st
    1 points Dec 21,2018, 7:41pm

    TFW vegas has you below the redskins who is starting mark Sanchez :(

COMMENTS

  • SamChubbard
    47 points Dec 21,2018, 5:03pm

    Bet me I won’t put my mortgage on the skins

  • superduperm1
    39 points Dec 21,2018, 5:04pm

    Lol at Browns being higher than the Panthers, Redskins and Dolphins.

    The Browns literally need a specific game to tie and a bunch of other things to even have a chance at a wild card spot.

  • Graxter
    13 points Dec 21,2018, 5:04pm

    Ravens and Seahawks line is honestly not that bad.

  • Raiichu_LoL
    12 points Dec 21,2018, 5:16pm

    How are the Pats still +700?

  • smda31
    6 points Dec 21,2018, 5:15pm

    Ya'll are going to be sorry you didn't put your money on the Panthers when CMC becomes our QB and pulls a Foles.

  • sirhumphry
    11 points Dec 21,2018, 5:02pm

    Steelers seem like a good bet

  • notNOTyouraveragejoe
    5 points Dec 21,2018, 5:07pm

    Colts seem like a good bet. If they make it into playoffs I could see them doing really well.

  • KillingBlade
    3 points Dec 21,2018, 5:11pm

    I don't gamble so I was mightily confused for a minute. Small numbers are good?

  • Meganickster1
    3 points Dec 21,2018, 5:23pm

    Putting my money on the Phins

  • HairyAsHull
    2 points Dec 21,2018, 5:15pm

    Since I'm dumb. If I bet a dollar and dolphins win, does that mean I get 25000?

  • RawhlTahhyde
    2 points Dec 21,2018, 5:26pm

    Lol imagine Heineken leading the Panthers to a super bowl

    Or Josh Johnson for the Skins

  • Ddollar00
    2 points Dec 21,2018, 5:44pm

    I like those chargers odds.

    does anyone know any apps where you can make these kinda bets?

  • DevynHeaven
    2 points Dec 21,2018, 6:27pm

    We're in the top 10 baby!

  • ConjugateBase
    2 points Dec 21,2018, 5:06pm

    Seeing the Browns in the list just makes me happy.

  • TheBoilerCat
    1 points Dec 21,2018, 5:10pm

    Seahawks seem like a decent value at that number.

  • redversfox
    1 points Dec 21,2018, 5:12pm

    Lmao the panthers, redskins, dolphins lines are just shade

  • HairyAsHull
    1 points Dec 21,2018, 5:13pm

    The browns have better odds than the Dolphins

  • Poonslayerjunior
    1 points Dec 21,2018, 5:37pm

    Not sure why the colts are above the Seahawks. They’re probably significantly more likely to miss the playoffs.

  • yeeetgod157
    1 points Dec 21,2018, 5:47pm

    So you are are telling me if I bet 10 dollars on the Cowboys I'll get $27,000? Sign me up for that

  • aksoileau
    1 points Dec 21,2018, 6:06pm

    Subscribe.

  • HouseofRoscoeParrish
    1 points Dec 21,2018, 6:26pm

    Houston vs seatle needs to happen. That superbowl would be niiice.

  • CSMastermind
    1 points Dec 21,2018, 7:00pm

    Texans and the Steelers both seem like good bets.

    Am I allowed to bet against the Patriots at those odds?

    If I understand the line right for every $7 I put in I get $1 if they don't win the Super Bowl? I like those odds.

  • molebowl
    1 points Dec 21,2018, 7:30pm

    Got the Chargers at 30-1. Let’s just say I am really rooting for them.

  • December21st
    1 points Dec 21,2018, 7:41pm

    TFW vegas has you below the redskins who is starting mark Sanchez :(

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This is why Redskins fans are heated. Tress Way, the Redskins’ punter, has 7 more punts inside the 20 than the 2nd best punter and 0 touchbacks. He is not the starting punter for the Pro Bowl

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COMMENTS

  • CravingToast
    1647 points Dec 19,2018, 9:34am

    Redskins fans being heated about their punter being snubbed from the pro bowl is a hilarious timeline from this season.

  • Fireeveryonenow1
    270 points Dec 19,2018, 9:45am

    In both games against us their Punter was the MVP of the game pinning us inside the 15 over and over until Dak had that fumble that the Redskins D recovered for 6 in game one.

    In the second game with ColtMccoy it was the same game, giving the Redskins excellent field position the entire game.

  • BrianDawkins
    198 points Dec 19,2018, 10:07am

    He ain’t got dicko mode

  • Jobbe03
    96 points Dec 19,2018, 9:34am

    It is a popularity contest. We all know it

  • maplemaster64
    173 points Dec 19,2018, 9:41am

    Michael Dickson has more girth

  • Cifra00
    112 points Dec 19,2018, 10:54am

    Dickson’s average is top of the league though. If Way were in over him you’d have this exact post about Dickson sorted by punting average lol

  • thatguy1717
    13 points Dec 19,2018, 10:36am

    Ya, and I believe Chris Jones led the league in Punts inside the 10 and fewest PR yards last year but didn't make the Pro Bowl at all. Punters are overlooked all the time

  • SloppyInSacramento
    15 points Dec 19,2018, 12:28pm

    Pro Bowl is the stupidest shit to get heated over. It’s a popularity contest.

  • renaissanceman518
    68 points Dec 19,2018, 9:51am

    It’s true.

    We’re not mad about our owner being incompetent, our first and second string QBs going down with season (and potentially career) ending injuries, the third string QB being a total disaster, the team underachieving almost every year, and that our name may or may not be racist.

    We’re mad because our fucking Punter didn’t make the Pro Bowl. Nailed it.

  • D3ATHbyBIGmac
    44 points Dec 19,2018, 11:02am

    But how big are Tress Way's balls?

  • SleazyKingLothric
    22 points Dec 19,2018, 9:52am

    Are that many fans heated? He's good, but I have other shit to worry about. Trent Williams didn't even play 4 games and still made it in for the 7th time. Lets be happy about that instead.

  • djmcintyre
    15 points Dec 19,2018, 10:08am

    Tress and Dickson are the two best punters in the league this year imo. Both are pro bowl caliber punters, I think Dickson just has more hype this year since he's a rookie.

    All Pro first team should be Tress tho

  • Schwalm
    6 points Dec 19,2018, 10:10am

    Blame 69

  • Nightcinder
    20 points Dec 19,2018, 9:37am

    Colquitt has been an MVP

  • vrnate
    50 points Dec 19,2018, 12:47pm

    So what? Tress leads in that one category and Dickson leads in every single other stat.

    Dickson has more punt yardage despite fewer attempts. He also has more punt return attempts but with less return yardage.

    If you actually bother to watch a Hawks game you would see why he's the pro-bowl punter. He's doing things with that ball that no other punter in the NFL is doing, which is why it makes it so difficult for opposing teams to return punts.

  • nesiguess
    11 points Dec 19,2018, 10:21am

    He's a punter, there are many players that got snubbed worse.

  • amdi_
    8 points Dec 19,2018, 9:48am

    Alexa, play Careless Whisper

  • DonnyGetTheLudes
    4 points Dec 19,2018, 11:45am

    Saints 35 punts lmao

  • svengalus
    4 points Dec 19,2018, 1:22pm

    I'd be interested in seeing punts inside the 5 or punts at the 1 yard line.

  • sealless
    4 points Dec 19,2018, 1:39pm

    Thoughts and prayers for them in this difficult time.

  • hnirobert
    4 points Dec 19,2018, 3:20pm

    I couldn't imagine being heated over my team's punter getting snubbed from the Pro Bowl. Good Lord...

  • goldspiikes
    4 points Dec 19,2018, 3:32pm

    Somewhere there's a guy at work asking his friend why hes so mad today.

    "Our punter didnt get in the fucking Pro Bowl man."

  • novelliant
    17 points Dec 19,2018, 9:37am

    It’s a popularity contest. I don’t understand why people get salty over this shit.

  • JWestfall76
    3 points Dec 19,2018, 12:27pm

    Are they though? Nobody cares about the pro bowl

  • retroracer
    3 points Dec 19,2018, 12:59pm

    IT’S TRESS WAY BITCH

  • nax_wilson
    3 points Dec 19,2018, 2:11pm

    This is why punting needs efficiency stats. 39 punts inside the 20 is impressive no matter what, but it would also be really impressive for a punter to have 25 punts inside the 20 when he only had 25 opportunities to do that. Same with distance. It's nice when a punter can kick it 60 yards but he doesn't get to do that if he's on the 50 and trying to pin the other team inside the 20. If I had the time and resources I'd like to compare the top 5 or so punters and see how they compare in some sort of punt success rate stat.

  • Plooerz
    3 points Dec 19,2018, 3:36pm

    If they cared that much they would have voted for him more. It's a fan decision

  • HEFTUS
    3 points Dec 19,2018, 5:34pm

    TIL The name of the Redskins punter. Might be why he was snubbed.

  • dickandborty
    6 points Dec 19,2018, 1:38pm

    Having watched only a few of each of their games, I agree with Pro Bowl voters.

    Dickson punts seem to have better hang time or be more strategically placed, because nobody is getting good returns against him.

    I don’t care that he had 4 touchbacks and Tress didn’t. That’s not a big deal.

    And hitting punts inside the 20, while great, isn’t the end all be all of punting.

  • Moruitelda
    4 points Dec 19,2018, 12:40pm

    How many times did you vote for him?

    It's a popularity contest. If you want your elite center in Oakland or your D.C. punter to make the list, you have to get out and vote a LOT.

  • WorldPeaceIsSoMetta
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 11:47am

    That’s the opposite of Tress Way shit, mayne

  • delicious_tomato
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 12:56pm

    Meanwhile, our boy Chubb is about to break the rookie record for sacks and probably won't even be invited to watch the game on his TV.

  • CJthetrain
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 1:10pm

    It’s a popularity contest lol

  • Eat-Shit-Bob-Ross
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 1:29pm

    oh damn just saw that morstead has only punted 35 times. i wonder what the record least amount of punts is in a season for a team.

  • rtbrsp
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 1:30pm

    Oof we're #31 next to Oakland

  • seariously
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 2:12pm

    No Way!

  • scoot87
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 2:13pm

    TIL human beings are very creative in how they become enraged.

  • ReadyAurora5
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 2:14pm

    The pro bowl is bullshit. Time to learn that.

  • kb24ljb35
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 2:47pm

    I would say average, net, and return average more than just not getting touchbacks. And I mean punting it out of bounds is different than punting it and downing it at the 5. Which punts inside the 20 doesn't differentiate

  • Pope_Beenadick
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 3:17pm

    The pro-bowl is like a party you do not want to go to, but you still get offended if you were not invited.

  • Drchrisco
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 5:22pm

    Inside the 20 is like completion %; sure it is a good stat but it favors safe play. He has the same amount of inside the 10 and 4yd less net than Dickson.

  • Steak_Knight
    4 points Dec 19,2018, 9:55am

    I can think of a lot better reasons for Redskins fans to be heated. Are you sure this is why?

  • GoogleBetaTester
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 1:03pm

    That's a great stat, but he's also 17th in net punt yards and 16th in average punt distance.

    I'm not saying that he doesn't deserve it (I haven't been paying attention to various punters all season), but the rest of his stats can very thoroughly explain why he wouldn't get in.

  • rainmanak44
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 4:06pm

    That's just one category y'know? There is also the average, net average, Long, return yards average and he doesn't even have an aussie accent! #BigBalls

  • fueledbygin
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 12:56pm

    Dickson is a rookie, on a team that isn't a walking trash dump. He's also quite good. There are far better hills to die on than crying that your punter, on a terrible team, didn't beat him out.

    (Though, I probably would have voted for him over Dickson; 0 touchbacks with that volume and ball placement is frikkin' impressive.)

  • AtTheg4tes
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 11:42am

    Net average baby!

  • MYO716
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 11:14am

    I feel like Redskins fans have a lot more to be heated about than that

  • thethomatoman
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 1:15pm

    I know the whole punters are people too thing is a meme but like actually no one knows any punters so a fan vote is gonna be trash.

  • doubleponytail
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 1:19pm

    Yeah, I’m sure THIS is the exact, and only, reason resdskins fans are “heated”

  • -Chuck-Norris-
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 2:06pm

    Punter drama is second only to long snapper drama in my book

  • pottersquash
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 2:14pm

    Zero touchbacks is impressive for a punter with over 70 punts unless the offense is just that bad.

  • GreatOdinsRaven_
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 2:22pm

    It's a popularity contest. Don't like it, vote.

  • Drunken_Economist
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 2:24pm

    How bored must the Saints punter be. 35 punts total

  • filladellfea
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 2:37pm

    the pro-bowl is STUPID. fan voting is moronic as 1/3 of the fans have no clue and another 1/3 are homers.

    the judge of a good player is all-pro.

  • freddyjasonmyer
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 2:39pm

    People still trying to pretend the pro bowl matters?

  • Final_Smash
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 2:41pm

    Tress Way and Britton Colquitt should have been the starters. Colquitt is 2nd in net yards and has a 79-yarder!

  • Dafilip94
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 2:44pm

    people still getting mad over a popularity contest

  • Bulkopossum
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 2:49pm

    They would be heated about something like that.

  • tuna_fart
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 2:54pm

    I bet Daniel Snyder is standing on his chair and just screaming about this.

  • straightoutofjersey
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 3:09pm

    He's crushed it for my fantasy team

  • astraeos118
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 3:09pm

    The pro bowl is fucking shite.

  • ND_Faithful1987
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 3:11pm

    Who gets heated over the pro bowl anyway...I mean really. not trying to be that one guy.

  • HaHaWalaTada
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 3:13pm

    He don't bend, he don't fold, he don't break.. It's Tress Way!

  • Whiggly
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 3:14pm

    Well, the Pro-Bowl is a stupid popularity contest because they let moron fans vote. I mean shit, I'll readily admit that Tom Brady probably shouldn't be a pro-bowler this year. He's an edge case, but I'd say Roethlisberger, Watson, or Luck all deserve it ahead of him. But he's still in there because, well, he's Tom fucking Brady. He could throw more picks than touchdowns, and he'd still probably get in.

    The AP all pro list is a more realistic look at who the best players are.

  • Anderslam666
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 3:17pm

    Saints only punted 35 times

  • 13langee
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 3:49pm

    It’s fuckin TRESS WAY

  • Heisenberg187
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 4:13pm

    Skins fans should be worried about so many other things. The punter being snubbed should be the least of their worries right now.

  • RFA13
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 5:06pm

    His name means threesome in spanish tres=three

  • shooptek
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 5:07pm

    Oof, seeing NE at the bottom of any ST list must make Bill want to puke.

  • jat1315
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 5:09pm

    As every Vikings fan who watched the team last year knows, 0 touchbacks does not make a good punter.

  • IAMA_Fckboi_AMA
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 5:50pm

    Guys I'm starting to think that the average pro bowl voter doesn't have a real deep understanding of league wide special teams' performance.

  • Berzuh
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 6:04pm

    Punter stats are hard to measure considering that they rely on the offenses stopping point and defenses ability to get off the field and all that.

  • Time_Table
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 6:20pm

    Now if his name was Trey Way, he might've been able to start.

  • harrypoos
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 6:54pm

    pls. just give us this for the love of god

  • drdrillaz
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 7:00pm

    Punts inside the 20 is a meaningless stat. It just says your team punts from midfield a lot. It’s not like the 20 is some magic line. Is the 20 that much better than the 21? 0 touchback is impressive. But 4 extra yards per punt over 70 punts is 280 extra yards for the Seattle punter. I’ll take the extra yards all day over the other 2 categories

  • BigGameHunter4
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 7:10pm

    They just can’t handle the BIG DICKson.

  • ThePurpleComyn
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 7:15pm

    Andy Lee has 7 more punts than anyone else. That’s 1-2 games more worth of production.

    SNUB.

  • AGINSB
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 7:15pm

    99% of the time we joke about how shit the probowl voting is. The other 1% is us bitching about probowl snubs.

  • DrDice14
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 7:25pm

    Andy Lee was snubbed this year

  • TweektheGeek
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 7:31pm

    Hard to bang a touchback when your offense only gets to the 35.

  • Seahawksroxmysox
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 7:32pm

    Suck my Dickson

  • HoodooSquad
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 7:36pm

    This? This is the reason Redskins fans are heated? This is the one you are picking?

  • Bartins
    0 points Dec 19,2018, 9:40am

    Imagine being heated about which punter made the pro bowl

  • edwardgentile
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 3:09pm

    Redskins fans' priorities, week 9: THE NFC EAST IS OURS.

    Redskins fans' priorities, week 16: Yo our punter should be in the Pro Bowl.

    Tragic.

  • Untchj
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 11:27am

    Skins fan here . Can confirm our punter not being in the pro bowl does not register on our list of concerns

  • Ixziga
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 2:14pm

    Fuck that, the greatest field goal kicker in nfl history didn't get in the pro bowl. This is nothing compared to that

  • juniorbb22
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 4:17pm

    Redskins fans are really heated that no one gives a F about what they think

  • CrewsD89
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 4:27pm

    Lol because he isn't tops in anything else...don't hate on Michael Dickson, he smoked everyone this year as a rookie

  • YetiTerrorist
    -4 points Dec 19,2018, 9:35am

    It's fan voted. It's the fucking Pro Bowl. He is a punter. You're in the hunt for the playoffs. Jesus Christ.

  • TheBestJerry_TheBest
    -10 points Dec 19,2018, 9:35am

    They punt a lot. Coincidence? I think not. Seattle fucker was better

  • Roger--Smith
    -5 points Dec 19,2018, 11:08am

    Dear god cry some more

  • BaylenBrees4Heisman
    0 points Dec 19,2018, 10:58am

    Yeah he deserved it

  • thethomatoman
    0 points Dec 19,2018, 1:15pm

    My takeaway here is that the AFC has much better punting than the NFC

  • SlobBarker
    0 points Dec 19,2018, 1:29pm

    and he's got 13 more punts inside the 20 than the next NFC punter.

    Tress Way single handedly won the first game vs. Dallas. All 5 of his punts were downed inside their 10 yard line.

  • MagnificentClock
    0 points Dec 19,2018, 2:33pm

    Who cares?

  • bremelius
    0 points Dec 19,2018, 2:59pm

    but his team is racist and I didn’t want to vote for him.

  • redconsensus
    0 points Dec 19,2018, 3:16pm

    That is pretty amazing.

  • throwahuey
    0 points Dec 19,2018, 4:12pm

    You sure it’s not because their franchise qb in the first year of his contract just suffered a career ending inury, their stadium is on top of a Native American burial ground, their team name is disparaging to native Americans, their owner is awful, or their owner’s stooge GM is awful?

  • ztrezise
    0 points Dec 19,2018, 4:54pm

    They should’ve been more pissed about signing Mark Sanchez.

  • schwertfeger
    -3 points Dec 19,2018, 9:47am

    Ok.

  • Wrocilem
    -15 points Dec 19,2018, 9:35am

    Inside the 20 isn't even good without context?

COMMENTS

  • CravingToast
    1647 points Dec 19,2018, 9:34am

    Redskins fans being heated about their punter being snubbed from the pro bowl is a hilarious timeline from this season.

  • Fireeveryonenow1
    270 points Dec 19,2018, 9:45am

    In both games against us their Punter was the MVP of the game pinning us inside the 15 over and over until Dak had that fumble that the Redskins D recovered for 6 in game one.

    In the second game with ColtMccoy it was the same game, giving the Redskins excellent field position the entire game.

  • BrianDawkins
    198 points Dec 19,2018, 10:07am

    He ain’t got dicko mode

  • bbq6
    196 points Dec 19,2018, 9:39am

    I like Tress like the rest of you but yeah I'm never going to be "heated" over a football player being snubbed.

  • Jobbe03
    96 points Dec 19,2018, 9:34am

    It is a popularity contest. We all know it

  • maplemaster64
    173 points Dec 19,2018, 9:41am

    Michael Dickson has more girth

  • Cifra00
    112 points Dec 19,2018, 10:54am

    Dickson’s average is top of the league though. If Way were in over him you’d have this exact post about Dickson sorted by punting average lol

  • thatguy1717
    13 points Dec 19,2018, 10:36am

    Ya, and I believe Chris Jones led the league in Punts inside the 10 and fewest PR yards last year but didn't make the Pro Bowl at all. Punters are overlooked all the time

  • SloppyInSacramento
    15 points Dec 19,2018, 12:28pm

    Pro Bowl is the stupidest shit to get heated over. It’s a popularity contest.

  • renaissanceman518
    68 points Dec 19,2018, 9:51am

    It’s true.

    We’re not mad about our owner being incompetent, our first and second string QBs going down with season (and potentially career) ending injuries, the third string QB being a total disaster, the team underachieving almost every year, and that our name may or may not be racist.

    We’re mad because our fucking Punter didn’t make the Pro Bowl. Nailed it.

  • D3ATHbyBIGmac
    44 points Dec 19,2018, 11:02am

    But how big are Tress Way's balls?

  • SleazyKingLothric
    22 points Dec 19,2018, 9:52am

    Are that many fans heated? He's good, but I have other shit to worry about. Trent Williams didn't even play 4 games and still made it in for the 7th time. Lets be happy about that instead.

  • djmcintyre
    15 points Dec 19,2018, 10:08am

    Tress and Dickson are the two best punters in the league this year imo. Both are pro bowl caliber punters, I think Dickson just has more hype this year since he's a rookie.

    All Pro first team should be Tress tho

  • Schwalm
    6 points Dec 19,2018, 10:10am

    Blame 69

  • Nightcinder
    20 points Dec 19,2018, 9:37am

    Colquitt has been an MVP

  • vrnate
    50 points Dec 19,2018, 12:47pm

    So what? Tress leads in that one category and Dickson leads in every single other stat.

    Dickson has more punt yardage despite fewer attempts. He also has more punt return attempts but with less return yardage.

    If you actually bother to watch a Hawks game you would see why he's the pro-bowl punter. He's doing things with that ball that no other punter in the NFL is doing, which is why it makes it so difficult for opposing teams to return punts.

  • nesiguess
    11 points Dec 19,2018, 10:21am

    He's a punter, there are many players that got snubbed worse.

  • amdi_
    8 points Dec 19,2018, 9:48am

    Alexa, play Careless Whisper

  • DonnyGetTheLudes
    4 points Dec 19,2018, 11:45am

    Saints 35 punts lmao

  • svengalus
    4 points Dec 19,2018, 1:22pm

    I'd be interested in seeing punts inside the 5 or punts at the 1 yard line.

  • sealless
    4 points Dec 19,2018, 1:39pm

    Thoughts and prayers for them in this difficult time.

  • hnirobert
    4 points Dec 19,2018, 3:20pm

    I couldn't imagine being heated over my team's punter getting snubbed from the Pro Bowl. Good Lord...

  • goldspiikes
    4 points Dec 19,2018, 3:32pm

    Somewhere there's a guy at work asking his friend why hes so mad today.

    "Our punter didnt get in the fucking Pro Bowl man."

  • novelliant
    17 points Dec 19,2018, 9:37am

    It’s a popularity contest. I don’t understand why people get salty over this shit.

  • JWestfall76
    3 points Dec 19,2018, 12:27pm

    Are they though? Nobody cares about the pro bowl

  • retroracer
    3 points Dec 19,2018, 12:59pm

    IT’S TRESS WAY BITCH

  • nax_wilson
    3 points Dec 19,2018, 2:11pm

    This is why punting needs efficiency stats. 39 punts inside the 20 is impressive no matter what, but it would also be really impressive for a punter to have 25 punts inside the 20 when he only had 25 opportunities to do that. Same with distance. It's nice when a punter can kick it 60 yards but he doesn't get to do that if he's on the 50 and trying to pin the other team inside the 20. If I had the time and resources I'd like to compare the top 5 or so punters and see how they compare in some sort of punt success rate stat.

  • Plooerz
    3 points Dec 19,2018, 3:36pm

    If they cared that much they would have voted for him more. It's a fan decision

  • HEFTUS
    3 points Dec 19,2018, 5:34pm

    TIL The name of the Redskins punter. Might be why he was snubbed.

  • dickandborty
    6 points Dec 19,2018, 1:38pm

    Having watched only a few of each of their games, I agree with Pro Bowl voters.

    Dickson punts seem to have better hang time or be more strategically placed, because nobody is getting good returns against him.

    I don’t care that he had 4 touchbacks and Tress didn’t. That’s not a big deal.

    And hitting punts inside the 20, while great, isn’t the end all be all of punting.

  • Moruitelda
    4 points Dec 19,2018, 12:40pm

    How many times did you vote for him?

    It's a popularity contest. If you want your elite center in Oakland or your D.C. punter to make the list, you have to get out and vote a LOT.

  • WorldPeaceIsSoMetta
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 11:47am

    That’s the opposite of Tress Way shit, mayne

  • delicious_tomato
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 12:56pm

    Meanwhile, our boy Chubb is about to break the rookie record for sacks and probably won't even be invited to watch the game on his TV.

  • CJthetrain
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 1:10pm

    It’s a popularity contest lol

  • Eat-Shit-Bob-Ross
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 1:29pm

    oh damn just saw that morstead has only punted 35 times. i wonder what the record least amount of punts is in a season for a team.

  • rtbrsp
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 1:30pm

    Oof we're #31 next to Oakland

  • seariously
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 2:12pm

    No Way!

  • scoot87
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 2:13pm

    TIL human beings are very creative in how they become enraged.

  • ReadyAurora5
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 2:14pm

    The pro bowl is bullshit. Time to learn that.

  • kb24ljb35
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 2:47pm

    I would say average, net, and return average more than just not getting touchbacks. And I mean punting it out of bounds is different than punting it and downing it at the 5. Which punts inside the 20 doesn't differentiate

  • Pope_Beenadick
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 3:17pm

    The pro-bowl is like a party you do not want to go to, but you still get offended if you were not invited.

  • Drchrisco
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 5:22pm

    Inside the 20 is like completion %; sure it is a good stat but it favors safe play. He has the same amount of inside the 10 and 4yd less net than Dickson.

  • Steak_Knight
    4 points Dec 19,2018, 9:55am

    I can think of a lot better reasons for Redskins fans to be heated. Are you sure this is why?

  • GoogleBetaTester
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 1:03pm

    That's a great stat, but he's also 17th in net punt yards and 16th in average punt distance.

    I'm not saying that he doesn't deserve it (I haven't been paying attention to various punters all season), but the rest of his stats can very thoroughly explain why he wouldn't get in.

  • rainmanak44
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 4:06pm

    That's just one category y'know? There is also the average, net average, Long, return yards average and he doesn't even have an aussie accent! #BigBalls

  • fueledbygin
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 12:56pm

    Dickson is a rookie, on a team that isn't a walking trash dump. He's also quite good. There are far better hills to die on than crying that your punter, on a terrible team, didn't beat him out.

    (Though, I probably would have voted for him over Dickson; 0 touchbacks with that volume and ball placement is frikkin' impressive.)

  • AtTheg4tes
    2 points Dec 19,2018, 11:42am

    Net average baby!

  • MYO716
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 11:14am

    I feel like Redskins fans have a lot more to be heated about than that

  • thethomatoman
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 1:15pm

    I know the whole punters are people too thing is a meme but like actually no one knows any punters so a fan vote is gonna be trash.

  • doubleponytail
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 1:19pm

    Yeah, I’m sure THIS is the exact, and only, reason resdskins fans are “heated”

  • -Chuck-Norris-
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 2:06pm

    Punter drama is second only to long snapper drama in my book

  • pottersquash
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 2:14pm

    Zero touchbacks is impressive for a punter with over 70 punts unless the offense is just that bad.

  • GreatOdinsRaven_
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 2:22pm

    It's a popularity contest. Don't like it, vote.

  • Drunken_Economist
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 2:24pm

    How bored must the Saints punter be. 35 punts total

  • filladellfea
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 2:37pm

    the pro-bowl is STUPID. fan voting is moronic as 1/3 of the fans have no clue and another 1/3 are homers.

    the judge of a good player is all-pro.

  • freddyjasonmyer
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 2:39pm

    People still trying to pretend the pro bowl matters?

  • Final_Smash
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 2:41pm

    Tress Way and Britton Colquitt should have been the starters. Colquitt is 2nd in net yards and has a 79-yarder!

  • Dafilip94
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 2:44pm

    people still getting mad over a popularity contest

  • Bulkopossum
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 2:49pm

    They would be heated about something like that.

  • tuna_fart
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 2:54pm

    I bet Daniel Snyder is standing on his chair and just screaming about this.

  • straightoutofjersey
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 3:09pm

    He's crushed it for my fantasy team

  • astraeos118
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 3:09pm

    The pro bowl is fucking shite.

  • ND_Faithful1987
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 3:11pm

    Who gets heated over the pro bowl anyway...I mean really. not trying to be that one guy.

  • HaHaWalaTada
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 3:13pm

    He don't bend, he don't fold, he don't break.. It's Tress Way!

  • Whiggly
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 3:14pm

    Well, the Pro-Bowl is a stupid popularity contest because they let moron fans vote. I mean shit, I'll readily admit that Tom Brady probably shouldn't be a pro-bowler this year. He's an edge case, but I'd say Roethlisberger, Watson, or Luck all deserve it ahead of him. But he's still in there because, well, he's Tom fucking Brady. He could throw more picks than touchdowns, and he'd still probably get in.

    The AP all pro list is a more realistic look at who the best players are.

  • Anderslam666
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 3:17pm

    Saints only punted 35 times

  • 13langee
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 3:49pm

    It’s fuckin TRESS WAY

  • Heisenberg187
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 4:13pm

    Skins fans should be worried about so many other things. The punter being snubbed should be the least of their worries right now.

  • RFA13
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 5:06pm

    His name means threesome in spanish tres=three

  • shooptek
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 5:07pm

    Oof, seeing NE at the bottom of any ST list must make Bill want to puke.

  • jat1315
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 5:09pm

    As every Vikings fan who watched the team last year knows, 0 touchbacks does not make a good punter.

  • IAMA_Fckboi_AMA
    1 points Dec 19,2018, 5:50pm

    Guys I'm starting to think that the average pro bowl voter doesn't have a real deep understanding of league wide special teams' performance.