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[Infographic] Teamfight Tactics - Quick Reference Guide (Items, Classes, Origins!) [Patch 9.13]

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COMMENTS

  • PotassiumLover3k
    8 points Jun 26,2019, 1:59pm

    One slight issue here, Ashe is not a sorcerer

  • -MagicDiamonds-
    4 points Jun 26,2019, 1:29pm

    Does building an item keeps the stats from the smaller item ?

    For example if i make a GA do i still have +20AD and +20 Armor ?

  • WorseBlitzNA
    4 points Jun 26,2019, 3:09pm

    What is this? A picture for ants?

  • fuck_als
    8 points Jun 26,2019, 11:00am

    Hey all, giving back to the League community here with this. I'm not sure quite what it is about it, but I haven't played League (or basically just about any games at all except Smash Bros.) in almost 3 years. Teamfight Tactics has excited me about video games again, rather than spending all my time working, studying or doing other social obligations.

    Hope this makes it easier to stay focused on the game and get up in ranks!

  • LumiRhino
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 2:51pm

    So when you combine the items, do you lose their original stats and gain the stats of the new item? Like the Spatula upgrades seem to only go into "also X type" with a few exceptions.

  • GhandiLoL
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 3:51pm

    Dang I graduated college but it looks like I have some studying to do! Thanks so much, this is great

  • ssurttayw
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 4:08pm

    Dope

  • kvzon
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 4:32pm

    Instead of using a monospaced font you should use a san serif, is really hard to read in some parts specially the text in the right. Pretty neat thou

  • Asdeft
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 4:35pm

    I love the grid you made for the items, but I would have liked something more sleek (class/origin icons, champion icons) for the team comps and a more readable font since it gets pretty crowded.

  • Levenloos
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 4:57pm

    Please change the font.

  • Angel_Tsio
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 5:53pm

    Minecraft font was a bad choice, also ashe isn't sorc naturally

  • jared2294
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 6:27pm

    If my quick you mean get lasik to read it then sure, it’s quick

  • Sedirex_KR
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 6:31pm

    This font is horrendous.

  • HOTBOI1337
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 6:35pm

    Hey, just wanna know how many pieces (or cards) of the same units are available each game ?

  • RuNtoAether
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 8:30pm

    This is great but the one thing I'd change is the font. It's kind of hard to look at if you are serching for something within a few seconds.

  • ieatcerealwithnomilk
    0 points Jun 26,2019, 2:28pm

    GA revives u with only 300 hp not 500

  • SpCommander
    -1 points Jun 26,2019, 2:37pm

    This is both concise and sexy. Thank you!

COMMENTS

  • fatyellowcat
    56 points Jun 26,2019, 12:30pm

    Thanks a million for making this! Could you make the text a more legible font? That'll make it even better.

  • flamyngo
    26 points Jun 26,2019, 2:29pm

    Does anyone have something like this with a better font? Thanks!

  • TheRealSlimSaady
    12 points Jun 26,2019, 3:10pm
  • OverwhelmedDolphin
    94 points Jun 26,2019, 2:28pm

    This is disgustingly ugly

  • PotassiumLover3k
    8 points Jun 26,2019, 1:59pm

    One slight issue here, Ashe is not a sorcerer

  • -MagicDiamonds-
    4 points Jun 26,2019, 1:29pm

    Does building an item keeps the stats from the smaller item ?

    For example if i make a GA do i still have +20AD and +20 Armor ?

  • WorseBlitzNA
    4 points Jun 26,2019, 3:09pm

    What is this? A picture for ants?

  • fuck_als
    8 points Jun 26,2019, 11:00am

    Hey all, giving back to the League community here with this. I'm not sure quite what it is about it, but I haven't played League (or basically just about any games at all except Smash Bros.) in almost 3 years. Teamfight Tactics has excited me about video games again, rather than spending all my time working, studying or doing other social obligations.

    Hope this makes it easier to stay focused on the game and get up in ranks!

  • LumiRhino
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 2:51pm

    So when you combine the items, do you lose their original stats and gain the stats of the new item? Like the Spatula upgrades seem to only go into "also X type" with a few exceptions.

  • GhandiLoL
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 3:51pm

    Dang I graduated college but it looks like I have some studying to do! Thanks so much, this is great

  • ssurttayw
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 4:08pm

    Dope

  • kvzon
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 4:32pm

    Instead of using a monospaced font you should use a san serif, is really hard to read in some parts specially the text in the right. Pretty neat thou

  • Asdeft
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 4:35pm

    I love the grid you made for the items, but I would have liked something more sleek (class/origin icons, champion icons) for the team comps and a more readable font since it gets pretty crowded.

  • Levenloos
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 4:57pm

    Please change the font.

  • Angel_Tsio
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 5:53pm

    Minecraft font was a bad choice, also ashe isn't sorc naturally

  • jared2294
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 6:27pm

    If my quick you mean get lasik to read it then sure, it’s quick

  • Sedirex_KR
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 6:31pm

    This font is horrendous.

  • HOTBOI1337
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 6:35pm

    Hey, just wanna know how many pieces (or cards) of the same units are available each game ?

  • RuNtoAether
    1 points Jun 26,2019, 8:30pm

    This is great but the one thing I'd change is the font. It's kind of hard to look at if you are serching for something within a few seconds.

  • ieatcerealwithnomilk
    0 points Jun 26,2019, 2:28pm

    GA revives u with only 300 hp not 500

  • SpCommander
    -1 points Jun 26,2019, 2:37pm

    This is both concise and sexy. Thank you!

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Problems with Sejuani

LEC of Offseason

COMMENTS

  • kurikurimix49
    23 points Nov 25,2018, 2:58pm

    the TRUTH jumped out

  • Piemelvel
    19 points Nov 25,2018, 4:13pm

    I still take this over a 300 armor and mr full tank that outdamages a lot of the other junglers in 1v1's that she was before her nerfs

  • RaxorX
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 6:59pm

    Upvoted as a once Sejuani player. She was fun before the rework. Her clear speed kinda sucks now compared to alot of other junglers now. Her ganking is still really good but as the game goes on her team fighting is much worse compared to before since her ult is a single target stun with a slow that doesn’t last very long.

  • brysondale
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 6:31pm

    I think your summed up her problems really well. I'm really glad you made this, maybe it'll help fuel her changes to come sooner. I enjoyed both versions of sej but the constant nerfs have just made her not fun to play.

    P.S. sej skin pleaseedit: spelling

  • arvidoodle
    4 points Nov 25,2018, 4:41pm

    dafuq is this layout?

  • forceobscure
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 6:37pm

    Tbh This post had to come. :/

  • JMoormann
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 7:01pm

    I agree that she has problems currently, but I also don't think pre-rework Sejuani was as great of a champion as you seem to make her out to be, because of how much of her power budget was put into her insanely strong ult (like you mentioned yourself). A nearly undodgable ranged AOE stun was way too powerful to ever give all of her other abilities enough power to appreciate them.

    Also:

    Sejuani nowadays is more like "I spam all my abilities. I freeze one person, deal some damage. Now what?"

    Basically any champion's playstyle can be described as "I use abilities, CC people and deal damage", so this isn't really valid criticism.

  • BlueIceshard
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 7:31pm

    Seeing this post I realize:

    There are too many champs in league of legends. To keep the game healthy, they should release no more than 1 or 2 champs a year.

  • nizdi
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 7:00pm

    Already guess I learn maths wrongly. 2, 3, 4, 1 & 5.

  • BADMANvegeta_
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 7:05pm

    The last post said Udyr has gone the longest without a skin. Y’all need to get your facts straight!

  • ApolloThunder
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 7:43pm

    I might be wrong about this, but I don't think so. Old Sej had the broken horn on her helm on the same side as where she carries her flail. The update messed this up.

  • edgelordweeb_
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 7:44pm

    Thanks for this, Sejuani needs to be addressed, the nerfs are really such bullshit

  • squidjeep
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 5:45pm

    Sejuani used to be my favourite champion before her 2017 rework. When she was released, she was underplayed but I loved playing her. Her first rework made me feel a little weird at first, but she was still pretty similar and I still enjoyed playing her.

    Her 2017 rework... Just why.... I've always thought that these drastic reworks on champions (like Sejuani, Akali) are so disrespectful to the players who enjoyed playing their pre-rework versions. If Riot really wanted a specific kit, they should've created a new champion instead rather than completely destroying and changing an already established champion. Sejuani is the biggest victim of this.

  • Conflexion
    0 points Nov 25,2018, 3:47pm

    Am I the only one who can’t really read it on mobile?

  • cam19L
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 7:09pm

    the only reason i don't like this post is because the gold color is too dark on a black background

  • SirTacoMaster
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 7:41pm

    Stop fucking making this posts... it's the same complaints every post. "Waaaa I don't have a skin Waaa I got no emotes" number 4 is just nit picking and number 3 doesn't really matter. Who cares if she isn't picked at worlds.

  • Polowysc2
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 5:59pm

    Now these are just getting desperate. I one tricked Sej when she was op for over 300 games and went up 9 divisions. Still after the nerfs and a new season I still had no issue with getting a 58% winrate over 180 games.

    If you know how to play her, she's still dominant in solo que due to her cc and clear speed.

    get good

COMMENTS

  • kurikurimix49
    23 points Nov 25,2018, 2:58pm

    the TRUTH jumped out

  • Piemelvel
    19 points Nov 25,2018, 4:13pm

    I still take this over a 300 armor and mr full tank that outdamages a lot of the other junglers in 1v1's that she was before her nerfs

  • RaxorX
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 6:59pm

    Upvoted as a once Sejuani player. She was fun before the rework. Her clear speed kinda sucks now compared to alot of other junglers now. Her ganking is still really good but as the game goes on her team fighting is much worse compared to before since her ult is a single target stun with a slow that doesn’t last very long.

  • ConfusedRara
    6 points Nov 25,2018, 5:11pm

    Oh my god. Thank you so much. Sejuani is in such a terrible spot right now I don't even dare to play her. And riot hasn't done ANYTHING to even try and fix her, which is the worst part.

  • brysondale
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 6:31pm

    I think your summed up her problems really well. I'm really glad you made this, maybe it'll help fuel her changes to come sooner. I enjoyed both versions of sej but the constant nerfs have just made her not fun to play.

    P.S. sej skin pleaseedit: spelling

  • arvidoodle
    4 points Nov 25,2018, 4:41pm

    dafuq is this layout?

  • forceobscure
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 6:37pm

    Tbh This post had to come. :/

  • JMoormann
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 7:01pm

    I agree that she has problems currently, but I also don't think pre-rework Sejuani was as great of a champion as you seem to make her out to be, because of how much of her power budget was put into her insanely strong ult (like you mentioned yourself). A nearly undodgable ranged AOE stun was way too powerful to ever give all of her other abilities enough power to appreciate them.

    Also:

    Sejuani nowadays is more like "I spam all my abilities. I freeze one person, deal some damage. Now what?"

    Basically any champion's playstyle can be described as "I use abilities, CC people and deal damage", so this isn't really valid criticism.

  • BlueIceshard
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 7:31pm

    Seeing this post I realize:

    There are too many champs in league of legends. To keep the game healthy, they should release no more than 1 or 2 champs a year.

  • nizdi
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 7:00pm

    Already guess I learn maths wrongly. 2, 3, 4, 1 & 5.

  • BADMANvegeta_
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 7:05pm

    The last post said Udyr has gone the longest without a skin. Y’all need to get your facts straight!

  • ApolloThunder
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 7:43pm

    I might be wrong about this, but I don't think so. Old Sej had the broken horn on her helm on the same side as where she carries her flail. The update messed this up.

  • edgelordweeb_
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 7:44pm

    Thanks for this, Sejuani needs to be addressed, the nerfs are really such bullshit

  • squidjeep
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 5:45pm

    Sejuani used to be my favourite champion before her 2017 rework. When she was released, she was underplayed but I loved playing her. Her first rework made me feel a little weird at first, but she was still pretty similar and I still enjoyed playing her.

    Her 2017 rework... Just why.... I've always thought that these drastic reworks on champions (like Sejuani, Akali) are so disrespectful to the players who enjoyed playing their pre-rework versions. If Riot really wanted a specific kit, they should've created a new champion instead rather than completely destroying and changing an already established champion. Sejuani is the biggest victim of this.

  • Conflexion
    0 points Nov 25,2018, 3:47pm

    Am I the only one who can’t really read it on mobile?

  • cam19L
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 7:09pm

    the only reason i don't like this post is because the gold color is too dark on a black background

  • SirTacoMaster
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 7:41pm

    Stop fucking making this posts... it's the same complaints every post. "Waaaa I don't have a skin Waaa I got no emotes" number 4 is just nit picking and number 3 doesn't really matter. Who cares if she isn't picked at worlds.

  • Polowysc2
    1 points Nov 25,2018, 5:59pm

    Now these are just getting desperate. I one tricked Sej when she was op for over 300 games and went up 9 divisions. Still after the nerfs and a new season I still had no issue with getting a 58% winrate over 180 games.

    If you know how to play her, she's still dominant in solo que due to her cc and clear speed.

    get good

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Problems with Shaco

LEC of Offseason

COMMENTS

  • Murl0ugh
    480 points Nov 23,2018, 1:19pm

    Fun fact: Shaco and his clone can proc relic shield even if they are the only two in lane.

    Shaco is weird man.

  • HolypenguinHere
    206 points Nov 23,2018, 2:09pm

    Man, imagine how big the Mordekaiser one would be.

  • CrownEmbassy
    212 points Nov 23,2018, 12:57pm

    Lol. I want a whole series like this.

  • moejellini
    23 points Nov 23,2018, 2:47pm

    A morderkaiser one of these would be like 15 pages long

  • senpaighostyy
    259 points Nov 23,2018, 1:18pm

    Shaco Rework: Stealth too good, downgrade it

    Akali Rework: Stealth too good? lets make it better

  • dillydadally
    67 points Nov 23,2018, 2:42pm

    Main problem with Shaco: his kit is freaking annoying to play against and has very little counterplay when he's fed enough to one shot.

  • KitKatKatarina
    11 points Nov 23,2018, 1:53pm

    That Masked Shaco face.

  • Egzo18
    18 points Nov 23,2018, 1:20pm

    So why are You not making questionable shaco/soraka content?

  • 831324
    39 points Nov 23,2018, 1:44pm

    It's really depressing seeing Riot completely ignore these champions. I don't main these unloved champions but you guys must feel like the unloved childs in a family lol

  • ChopsickNoodles
    13 points Nov 23,2018, 2:06pm

    The real problem is that there are two step “3”

  • flyinglikeacant
    14 points Nov 23,2018, 3:06pm

    More accurate criticism and comes off as less entitled. Hope this gets as much support as the cass one.

  • Rayquazy
    7 points Nov 23,2018, 1:39pm

    Lol this format

  • DeadNames
    15 points Nov 23,2018, 2:18pm

    Despite all this, Shaco is still the best solo queue jungler.

  • I_am_the_sinner
    4 points Nov 23,2018, 3:23pm

    I think Riot really doesn't want to update Shaco because they're so afraid they'll mess him up and they're fully aware that's a possibility

    Could also be that they have literally no idea how to modernize him and keep his identity idk

  • WSUcat
    3 points Nov 23,2018, 1:22pm

    I love playing Zyra into Shaco because I can break a box by spawning a plant right on top. 2ez

  • Zankman
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:37pm

    Let's be real, Shaco is a crappy remnant of a bygone era... The fact that they don't care to VGU him is sad.

  • Zeddeus
    5 points Nov 23,2018, 3:07pm

    Is this a very high effort meme now?

  • Shyrex
    6 points Nov 23,2018, 1:46pm

    But he gets a new run animation tho

  • onords
    8 points Nov 23,2018, 2:39pm

    The only issue with shaco is he can one shot every fucking carry without beeing seen

  • AeonFS
    2 points Nov 23,2018, 4:44pm

    Shaco's just a joke.

  • tialhing1
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:52pm

    ill meet you halfway let's delete him from the game

  • Doenerjunge
    6 points Nov 23,2018, 2:55pm

    Short version: he exists.

  • FuzzyHeights
    6 points Nov 23,2018, 3:19pm

    '' My shaco boxes have a counter. Pls make it like in season 6 so they have no counter''

    Srsly. Shaco is the least interactive champ to play against and you want to buff him?

    Some shaco god pls do another one of this with fixed ability section.

  • r0Mba
    2 points Nov 23,2018, 2:28pm

    i feel bad cause the entire identity of shaco is has been stolen by neeko

  • omaewamoshindyru
    2 points Nov 23,2018, 3:23pm

    you would be hallucinating if you think riot will fix anything about shaco , maybe nerf here buff there and they would call if an update

  • virginpolice69
    2 points Nov 23,2018, 3:34pm

    Pretty format and I agree with most of it but I feel like it’s missing a couple of issues that Shaco mains complain about:

    1) Almost all of Shaco’s damage is from items being strong like Duskblade. His E does like 5 damage so he’s an assassin that’s literally almost only autos. Some people still think Shaco is an early game jungler but he is moreso a scaling champion now which is pretty weird, although some people like that.

    2) His early game Q is hot garbage - it’s like, 1.5s early game? And the enemy can see the orange smoke.

    3) Farm the whole game just to get shit on by Ninja Timbs

    4) I actually think the purple Shaco skin splash is really sick (but misleading cause it’s bad in-game), and workshop splash is cool. Other two could use some work though.

    5) Ult not targeting inhib is annoying, maybe not just a Shaco thing though (ex. happens w/ annie r). I can’t remember if inhibs trigger boxes

    6) It’s been a while and idk if you still can, but you used to be able to recall in stealth by pressing Q and B at the same time and it wouldn’t cancel

  • TYBW-Yoruichi
    2 points Nov 23,2018, 4:10pm

    Literally ripped off the cassiopeia one and now other people are going to do the same for their champion and then Riot will consider all of you meme'ing. GREAT!

  • swimstrimmeme
    2 points Nov 23,2018, 3:35pm

    An infographic? wtf I have to fix Shaco now! - LoL programmer

  • CeausescuPute
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 3:08pm

    pls do problems with vayne

  • rabaluf
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 3:09pm

    why this is so funny to read?

  • Riperz
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 3:33pm

    why does no one play ap shaco anymore did I miss anything? granted I havent played in a while but is there a reason or it lost its popularity?

  • mrsata1
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 3:39pm

    wtf. didnt even notice this. i wont ever complain about rengar not getting a skin (mecha doesnt count utter trash) again

  • ThePraxter
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 3:52pm

    So what you're saying is you want him fixed and nerfed? Considering he is viable enough to get challenger with despite the bugs and QOL problems would suggest he would be OP if fixed.

  • Xydron00
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 4:01pm

    idk i kinda like the old splash arts. Its a different art style..doesn't have to be super hd crap like everything else.

  • Dieswithrez
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 4:15pm

    Why do people hate shitty splash art? It is beautiful

  • christayloralter
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 4:23pm

    Would be nice if the boxes disappeared quickly if Shaco is not nearby. The same problem with mushrooms, you're not really interacting with the champion and still getting cc'd and damaged.

  • vettros
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 4:24pm

    Careful man, us eve mains complained and look what happened to our mains.

  • autumnstorm10
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 4:25pm

    do udyr

  • AWumbologist
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 4:41pm

    They gave neeko all the cool illusion abilities. Idk what they will do with shaco now outside of just making him a kill-crazy clown. That would be so much wasted potential when the entire jester concept can have so much more than a psycho. I slowly grow closer to believing shaco may be the first champ removed from the game if riot were to ever remove anyone. He's dated and riot probably doesn't want to have to deal with another illusionist champ when leblanc failed and neeko around the corner. I wish they didn't release neeko and just found ways to merge her kit with shaco. Would be so much cooler.

  • BADMANvegeta_
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 4:47pm

    Yeah, you right.

  • Yasutake_Shoyo
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 4:49pm

    udyr?

  • Frostbite2806
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 4:55pm

    That Masked Shaco face gives me nightmare

  • TheEggRoller
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 5:00pm

    Do one with Taliyah now

  • Irarhet
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 5:04pm

    Another thing, Shaco's clone is given away if there is a Garen in the game and Shaco is the villain.

  • FiestyShibas
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 5:11pm

    Someone do teemo

  • galagart
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 5:28pm

    PLEASE WE NEED ONE ABOUT CURRENT KAYLE I DONT CARE THAT HER REWORK IS NEXT YEAR

  • Trantang
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 5:34pm

    Yeah I wouldn't make the abilities have different smokes. It sounds cool but the idea is that when you see the smoke you don't really know what he did and that's part of the trickery. His kit right now limits that uncertainty to literally half a second because he usually does something within that second, but if they update his kit to be more interesting or tricky, then having the single smoke effect would be more ideal for being tricky.

  • Jarhead360
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 5:44pm

    After maining Shaco for some time now The biggest problems I see with shaco is . The new passive system for his Q and E sucks and doesnt have the same affect as the old one. Pressing ult to dodge damage like zeds ult or a turret but it still kills you. The boxes im fine with as they are simply meant to give shaco a buffer to back stab. However isn't useful anymore because well, back stab sucks. In other words they just want to nerf him o the ground and send him to the grave with out upsetting the mains but guess what....im still very much upset.

  • 2fast2fat
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 5:45pm

    I was afraid this was going to include stupid arguments like "Shaco has no emotes/Icons", so im glad it was mostly about Shaco's lack of new skins and proper splasharts and his plenty of bugs/problems.

    Still, I see no problem with Jack in the boxes being activated by Duskblade and vision, i mean, it has to have some form of counterplay.

  • Giraff3
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:00pm

    This must’ve taken some time to do. This is a useful info graphic, good job

  • Modseto
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:05pm

    Do one for Kassadin please, last skin of his was years ago

  • Killmelast
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:07pm

    Just revert him to his original state...along with all items...and game mechanics....argh, fuck, i just want season 1 or earlier back.

  • yikesthismid
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:14pm

    Can someone make a "problems with viktor"? Pretty fitting now with the broken viktop shit and the weak af state of viktor mid

  • BezmoTheGent
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:16pm

    While I agree Shaco needs a rework, the whole skin thing doesn’t matter to the overall gameplay. I picked Shaco up when I was learning the game, just after his Wild Card skin release, and I’m in no way denying that the Demon Jester needs a new skin, but when you’re bringing up fundamental problems with the champion and gameplay around them, listing the skin options first seems kinda vapid.

  • Panetank
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:19pm

    I think there are a lot of things in this that are not accurate/mis-represents Shaco. For example, the smoke being the same for all abilities plays into his trickster kit. The intent is so that the enemy doesn't know what you're using....

  • Basket_of_Depl0rblz
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:27pm

    I don't disagree, but imho his biggest problem is his horrible E

  • lolip75
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:44pm

    I think Riot can possibly make him more box centralized. One shotting everyone with duskblade isn't the most fun thing to do and there's no difference from a Rengar or Kha'zix. However boxes arent pure one shotting and can enhance his assassin potential without a 100-0 with duskblade. It would be hard to implement as they would need to make him less reliant on runes and items. AP builds where you trick them into box traps were so much fun but AP scalings aren't that great rn and boxes get one-shot in team fights/take too long to arm. Also building mpen is useless because they changed E to do physical damage although it has AP scaling

  • rngskrtskrt
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:51pm

    I have like .6 million mastery on shaco. I've been yearning for a shaco skin ever since i started playing league, which never happened. But aside from this i think shaco has been pretty good especially since the s7 rework.

  • Hyunabstar
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:52pm

    someone make problems with adc please... i just cant... lmao

  • Showdeh
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 7:22pm

    Why would Riot want to change his walking animation? It’s like my absolute favorite part of his visuals. Am I the only one?

  • M_ae_B
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 7:31pm

    Problems with this post

    1. It has number 3 twice
  • GateauBaker
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 7:34pm

    Shaco definitely needs a visual update and a couple a buffs while we're at it to make him as popular as possible. I need a reason to feel slightly less guilty banning him every game.

  • majorc564
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 7:41pm

    Please make a wukong one

  • tmac1997
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 7:53pm

    This is a shittier copy of "problems with Cassiopeia" to rant about Shaco. It's way more opinionated and the bad grammar makes it seem less professional and uninteresting.Quality is an amazing thing.

  • orangemanbaddd
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 2:29pm

    why are these gaining traction. this and the one yesterday both stupid. if you complain about visuals you are small-brained "My champion hasn't gotten a skin in like 3 years!" wow omg theres like 150 champs in the game and we know they don't pick who gets a skin based on who "needs" a skin and based on the synergy they often promote between skinlines, i don't think that they necessarily should

  • Mnemozin
    2 points Nov 23,2018, 3:01pm

    This is so poorly written that my head hurts when i read it

  • riodin
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 1:15pm

    So the issue here is while some of the suggestions on the cass one were bad, they still made an attempt to suggest how riot MIGHT improve the complaints with a decent amount of sourcing. Also im not a Shaco main (though I've played him many times to git gud tl;dr: failed) and if you wanted a big fix in the graphic you should explain how it seems to work. Also the cass one had a nice summary section at the end to reiterate all the complaints (like a tl;dr) which could help convey passion about these complaints. As it is now it seems like a half assed attempt at karma farming because of the cass post.

    Idk try not to take my critique too harshly, i know you care about this issue (otherwise why put the effort in?) But the goal here should be to galvanize the devs into acting through passionate rhetoric, not meekly taking a few jabs at the vfx, pointing out a couple bugs and wierd on hit interactions (seriously why can't the box do rylais? That's a 2400 gp investment for what a slow on e which already has one and the shaclone?).

    Tl;dr: this layout is alright, but if you want people to take it seriously convey your passion.

    EDIT: typo

  • ExO_o
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 2:09pm

    shaco is one big problem

  • LocoEX-GER
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 3:21pm

    MAKE SHACO GREAT AGAIN!

    • Shaco One-Trick
  • vorcazm
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 3:54pm

    I main both Cass and Shaco and i feel this.

  • 1000yearsofpower
    -4 points Nov 23,2018, 1:09pm

    Riot have put Shaco in the dumpster on purpose, it's sad.

  • Oppai__Dragon
    -3 points Nov 23,2018, 3:12pm

    am I the only one that is happy that shaco is shit and isnt meta anymore

    fuck that champ

    I hope shaco is never fotm again

    every shaco on my team fed and was shit.. every shaco on the other team got fed off my teammates inability to adapt their play styles around him

  • Serendipity_xyz
    -2 points Nov 23,2018, 2:24pm

    Problem with Shaco is that he exists. Just remove this abomination from the game.

  • Sneakyisbestwaifu
    -1 points Nov 23,2018, 3:29pm

    Problems with Shaco - He still exists

    There I summed up all problems with Shaco :)

  • WSUcat
    0 points Nov 23,2018, 2:00pm

    I love playing Zyra into Shaco because I can break a box by spawning a plant right on top. 2ez

  • Tartoon17
    0 points Nov 23,2018, 2:28pm

    Leave my Shaco alone please and ty. Visual updates sure go for it.

  • SmokeCocks
    0 points Nov 23,2018, 4:30pm

    2.) was the worst point, its intended that all the smoke bombs are the same color so you can use a box in fog of war to bait your enemy into thinking you're about to back stab them... etc.

  • PurpleJetskis
    0 points Nov 23,2018, 4:58pm

    I've seen no mention of Pink Ward in this thread yet, and I feel like his opinion on this would be very helpful, since he is one of THE Shaco players, after all.

  • Chechewas
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 7:24pm

    The only problen here is why are u playing Shaco?

  • willllson
    -2 points Nov 23,2018, 5:24pm

    shaco is cancer for any adc, fk this champ

  • Ghostkill221
    -1 points Nov 23,2018, 5:15pm

    TL/DR; Shaco Exists. Fix that please Riot.

  • ronniesan
    -1 points Nov 23,2018, 5:30pm

    Problems with Shaco: He exist

  • FreeDealer
    -2 points Nov 23,2018, 2:37pm

    why does this always happen, someone sees someone make an original fucking post then some guy has to go out of his way to make sure he gets his own version

  • 1923mp4
    -2 points Nov 23,2018, 4:40pm

    Shaco players should be banned for feeding anyways

  • Dragyen
    -2 points Nov 23,2018, 5:12pm
    1. he exists

COMMENTS

  • Murl0ugh
    480 points Nov 23,2018, 1:19pm

    Fun fact: Shaco and his clone can proc relic shield even if they are the only two in lane.

    Shaco is weird man.

  • HolypenguinHere
    206 points Nov 23,2018, 2:09pm

    Man, imagine how big the Mordekaiser one would be.

  • CrownEmbassy
    212 points Nov 23,2018, 12:57pm

    Lol. I want a whole series like this.

  • Reinfernus
    109 points Nov 23,2018, 12:40pm

    credit for inspiring goes to /u/Canastus he was also fine with me making my own version of this so no flame please

  • moejellini
    23 points Nov 23,2018, 2:47pm

    A morderkaiser one of these would be like 15 pages long

  • senpaighostyy
    259 points Nov 23,2018, 1:18pm

    Shaco Rework: Stealth too good, downgrade it

    Akali Rework: Stealth too good? lets make it better

  • dillydadally
    67 points Nov 23,2018, 2:42pm

    Main problem with Shaco: his kit is freaking annoying to play against and has very little counterplay when he's fed enough to one shot.

  • KitKatKatarina
    11 points Nov 23,2018, 1:53pm

    That Masked Shaco face.

  • Egzo18
    18 points Nov 23,2018, 1:20pm

    So why are You not making questionable shaco/soraka content?

  • 831324
    39 points Nov 23,2018, 1:44pm

    It's really depressing seeing Riot completely ignore these champions. I don't main these unloved champions but you guys must feel like the unloved childs in a family lol

  • ChopsickNoodles
    13 points Nov 23,2018, 2:06pm

    The real problem is that there are two step “3”

  • flyinglikeacant
    14 points Nov 23,2018, 3:06pm

    More accurate criticism and comes off as less entitled. Hope this gets as much support as the cass one.

  • Rayquazy
    7 points Nov 23,2018, 1:39pm

    Lol this format

  • DeadNames
    15 points Nov 23,2018, 2:18pm

    Despite all this, Shaco is still the best solo queue jungler.

  • I_am_the_sinner
    4 points Nov 23,2018, 3:23pm

    I think Riot really doesn't want to update Shaco because they're so afraid they'll mess him up and they're fully aware that's a possibility

    Could also be that they have literally no idea how to modernize him and keep his identity idk

  • WSUcat
    3 points Nov 23,2018, 1:22pm

    I love playing Zyra into Shaco because I can break a box by spawning a plant right on top. 2ez

  • Zankman
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:37pm

    Let's be real, Shaco is a crappy remnant of a bygone era... The fact that they don't care to VGU him is sad.

  • Zeddeus
    5 points Nov 23,2018, 3:07pm

    Is this a very high effort meme now?

  • Shyrex
    6 points Nov 23,2018, 1:46pm

    But he gets a new run animation tho

  • onords
    8 points Nov 23,2018, 2:39pm

    The only issue with shaco is he can one shot every fucking carry without beeing seen

  • AeonFS
    2 points Nov 23,2018, 4:44pm

    Shaco's just a joke.

  • tialhing1
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:52pm

    ill meet you halfway let's delete him from the game

  • Doenerjunge
    6 points Nov 23,2018, 2:55pm

    Short version: he exists.

  • FuzzyHeights
    6 points Nov 23,2018, 3:19pm

    '' My shaco boxes have a counter. Pls make it like in season 6 so they have no counter''

    Srsly. Shaco is the least interactive champ to play against and you want to buff him?

    Some shaco god pls do another one of this with fixed ability section.

  • r0Mba
    2 points Nov 23,2018, 2:28pm

    i feel bad cause the entire identity of shaco is has been stolen by neeko

  • omaewamoshindyru
    2 points Nov 23,2018, 3:23pm

    you would be hallucinating if you think riot will fix anything about shaco , maybe nerf here buff there and they would call if an update

  • virginpolice69
    2 points Nov 23,2018, 3:34pm

    Pretty format and I agree with most of it but I feel like it’s missing a couple of issues that Shaco mains complain about:

    1) Almost all of Shaco’s damage is from items being strong like Duskblade. His E does like 5 damage so he’s an assassin that’s literally almost only autos. Some people still think Shaco is an early game jungler but he is moreso a scaling champion now which is pretty weird, although some people like that.

    2) His early game Q is hot garbage - it’s like, 1.5s early game? And the enemy can see the orange smoke.

    3) Farm the whole game just to get shit on by Ninja Timbs

    4) I actually think the purple Shaco skin splash is really sick (but misleading cause it’s bad in-game), and workshop splash is cool. Other two could use some work though.

    5) Ult not targeting inhib is annoying, maybe not just a Shaco thing though (ex. happens w/ annie r). I can’t remember if inhibs trigger boxes

    6) It’s been a while and idk if you still can, but you used to be able to recall in stealth by pressing Q and B at the same time and it wouldn’t cancel

  • TYBW-Yoruichi
    2 points Nov 23,2018, 4:10pm

    Literally ripped off the cassiopeia one and now other people are going to do the same for their champion and then Riot will consider all of you meme'ing. GREAT!

  • swimstrimmeme
    2 points Nov 23,2018, 3:35pm

    An infographic? wtf I have to fix Shaco now! - LoL programmer

  • CeausescuPute
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 3:08pm

    pls do problems with vayne

  • rabaluf
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 3:09pm

    why this is so funny to read?

  • Riperz
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 3:33pm

    why does no one play ap shaco anymore did I miss anything? granted I havent played in a while but is there a reason or it lost its popularity?

  • mrsata1
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 3:39pm

    wtf. didnt even notice this. i wont ever complain about rengar not getting a skin (mecha doesnt count utter trash) again

  • ThePraxter
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 3:52pm

    So what you're saying is you want him fixed and nerfed? Considering he is viable enough to get challenger with despite the bugs and QOL problems would suggest he would be OP if fixed.

  • Xydron00
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 4:01pm

    idk i kinda like the old splash arts. Its a different art style..doesn't have to be super hd crap like everything else.

  • Dieswithrez
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 4:15pm

    Why do people hate shitty splash art? It is beautiful

  • christayloralter
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 4:23pm

    Would be nice if the boxes disappeared quickly if Shaco is not nearby. The same problem with mushrooms, you're not really interacting with the champion and still getting cc'd and damaged.

  • vettros
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 4:24pm

    Careful man, us eve mains complained and look what happened to our mains.

  • autumnstorm10
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 4:25pm

    do udyr

  • AWumbologist
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 4:41pm

    They gave neeko all the cool illusion abilities. Idk what they will do with shaco now outside of just making him a kill-crazy clown. That would be so much wasted potential when the entire jester concept can have so much more than a psycho. I slowly grow closer to believing shaco may be the first champ removed from the game if riot were to ever remove anyone. He's dated and riot probably doesn't want to have to deal with another illusionist champ when leblanc failed and neeko around the corner. I wish they didn't release neeko and just found ways to merge her kit with shaco. Would be so much cooler.

  • BADMANvegeta_
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 4:47pm

    Yeah, you right.

  • Yasutake_Shoyo
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 4:49pm

    udyr?

  • Frostbite2806
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 4:55pm

    That Masked Shaco face gives me nightmare

  • TheEggRoller
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 5:00pm

    Do one with Taliyah now

  • Irarhet
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 5:04pm

    Another thing, Shaco's clone is given away if there is a Garen in the game and Shaco is the villain.

  • FiestyShibas
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 5:11pm

    Someone do teemo

  • galagart
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 5:28pm

    PLEASE WE NEED ONE ABOUT CURRENT KAYLE I DONT CARE THAT HER REWORK IS NEXT YEAR

  • Trantang
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 5:34pm

    Yeah I wouldn't make the abilities have different smokes. It sounds cool but the idea is that when you see the smoke you don't really know what he did and that's part of the trickery. His kit right now limits that uncertainty to literally half a second because he usually does something within that second, but if they update his kit to be more interesting or tricky, then having the single smoke effect would be more ideal for being tricky.

  • Jarhead360
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 5:44pm

    After maining Shaco for some time now The biggest problems I see with shaco is . The new passive system for his Q and E sucks and doesnt have the same affect as the old one. Pressing ult to dodge damage like zeds ult or a turret but it still kills you. The boxes im fine with as they are simply meant to give shaco a buffer to back stab. However isn't useful anymore because well, back stab sucks. In other words they just want to nerf him o the ground and send him to the grave with out upsetting the mains but guess what....im still very much upset.

  • 2fast2fat
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 5:45pm

    I was afraid this was going to include stupid arguments like "Shaco has no emotes/Icons", so im glad it was mostly about Shaco's lack of new skins and proper splasharts and his plenty of bugs/problems.

    Still, I see no problem with Jack in the boxes being activated by Duskblade and vision, i mean, it has to have some form of counterplay.

  • Giraff3
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:00pm

    This must’ve taken some time to do. This is a useful info graphic, good job

  • Modseto
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:05pm

    Do one for Kassadin please, last skin of his was years ago

  • Killmelast
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:07pm

    Just revert him to his original state...along with all items...and game mechanics....argh, fuck, i just want season 1 or earlier back.

  • yikesthismid
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:14pm

    Can someone make a "problems with viktor"? Pretty fitting now with the broken viktop shit and the weak af state of viktor mid

  • BezmoTheGent
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:16pm

    While I agree Shaco needs a rework, the whole skin thing doesn’t matter to the overall gameplay. I picked Shaco up when I was learning the game, just after his Wild Card skin release, and I’m in no way denying that the Demon Jester needs a new skin, but when you’re bringing up fundamental problems with the champion and gameplay around them, listing the skin options first seems kinda vapid.

  • Panetank
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:19pm

    I think there are a lot of things in this that are not accurate/mis-represents Shaco. For example, the smoke being the same for all abilities plays into his trickster kit. The intent is so that the enemy doesn't know what you're using....

  • Basket_of_Depl0rblz
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:27pm

    I don't disagree, but imho his biggest problem is his horrible E

  • lolip75
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:44pm

    I think Riot can possibly make him more box centralized. One shotting everyone with duskblade isn't the most fun thing to do and there's no difference from a Rengar or Kha'zix. However boxes arent pure one shotting and can enhance his assassin potential without a 100-0 with duskblade. It would be hard to implement as they would need to make him less reliant on runes and items. AP builds where you trick them into box traps were so much fun but AP scalings aren't that great rn and boxes get one-shot in team fights/take too long to arm. Also building mpen is useless because they changed E to do physical damage although it has AP scaling

  • rngskrtskrt
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:51pm

    I have like .6 million mastery on shaco. I've been yearning for a shaco skin ever since i started playing league, which never happened. But aside from this i think shaco has been pretty good especially since the s7 rework.

  • Hyunabstar
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 6:52pm

    someone make problems with adc please... i just cant... lmao

  • Showdeh
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 7:22pm

    Why would Riot want to change his walking animation? It’s like my absolute favorite part of his visuals. Am I the only one?

  • M_ae_B
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 7:31pm

    Problems with this post

    1. It has number 3 twice
  • GateauBaker
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 7:34pm

    Shaco definitely needs a visual update and a couple a buffs while we're at it to make him as popular as possible. I need a reason to feel slightly less guilty banning him every game.

  • majorc564
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 7:41pm

    Please make a wukong one

  • tmac1997
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 7:53pm

    This is a shittier copy of "problems with Cassiopeia" to rant about Shaco. It's way more opinionated and the bad grammar makes it seem less professional and uninteresting.Quality is an amazing thing.

  • orangemanbaddd
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 2:29pm

    why are these gaining traction. this and the one yesterday both stupid. if you complain about visuals you are small-brained "My champion hasn't gotten a skin in like 3 years!" wow omg theres like 150 champs in the game and we know they don't pick who gets a skin based on who "needs" a skin and based on the synergy they often promote between skinlines, i don't think that they necessarily should

  • Mnemozin
    2 points Nov 23,2018, 3:01pm

    This is so poorly written that my head hurts when i read it

  • riodin
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 1:15pm

    So the issue here is while some of the suggestions on the cass one were bad, they still made an attempt to suggest how riot MIGHT improve the complaints with a decent amount of sourcing. Also im not a Shaco main (though I've played him many times to git gud tl;dr: failed) and if you wanted a big fix in the graphic you should explain how it seems to work. Also the cass one had a nice summary section at the end to reiterate all the complaints (like a tl;dr) which could help convey passion about these complaints. As it is now it seems like a half assed attempt at karma farming because of the cass post.

    Idk try not to take my critique too harshly, i know you care about this issue (otherwise why put the effort in?) But the goal here should be to galvanize the devs into acting through passionate rhetoric, not meekly taking a few jabs at the vfx, pointing out a couple bugs and wierd on hit interactions (seriously why can't the box do rylais? That's a 2400 gp investment for what a slow on e which already has one and the shaclone?).

    Tl;dr: this layout is alright, but if you want people to take it seriously convey your passion.

    EDIT: typo

  • ExO_o
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 2:09pm

    shaco is one big problem

  • LocoEX-GER
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 3:21pm

    MAKE SHACO GREAT AGAIN!

    • Shaco One-Trick
  • vorcazm
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 3:54pm

    I main both Cass and Shaco and i feel this.

  • 1000yearsofpower
    -4 points Nov 23,2018, 1:09pm

    Riot have put Shaco in the dumpster on purpose, it's sad.

  • Oppai__Dragon
    -3 points Nov 23,2018, 3:12pm

    am I the only one that is happy that shaco is shit and isnt meta anymore

    fuck that champ

    I hope shaco is never fotm again

    every shaco on my team fed and was shit.. every shaco on the other team got fed off my teammates inability to adapt their play styles around him

  • Serendipity_xyz
    -2 points Nov 23,2018, 2:24pm

    Problem with Shaco is that he exists. Just remove this abomination from the game.

  • Sneakyisbestwaifu
    -1 points Nov 23,2018, 3:29pm

    Problems with Shaco - He still exists

    There I summed up all problems with Shaco :)

  • WSUcat
    0 points Nov 23,2018, 2:00pm

    I love playing Zyra into Shaco because I can break a box by spawning a plant right on top. 2ez

  • Tartoon17
    0 points Nov 23,2018, 2:28pm

    Leave my Shaco alone please and ty. Visual updates sure go for it.

  • SmokeCocks
    0 points Nov 23,2018, 4:30pm

    2.) was the worst point, its intended that all the smoke bombs are the same color so you can use a box in fog of war to bait your enemy into thinking you're about to back stab them... etc.

  • PurpleJetskis
    0 points Nov 23,2018, 4:58pm

    I've seen no mention of Pink Ward in this thread yet, and I feel like his opinion on this would be very helpful, since he is one of THE Shaco players, after all.

  • Chechewas
    1 points Nov 23,2018, 7:24pm

    The only problen here is why are u playing Shaco?

  • willllson
    -2 points Nov 23,2018, 5:24pm

    shaco is cancer for any adc, fk this champ

  • Ghostkill221
    -1 points Nov 23,2018, 5:15pm

    TL/DR; Shaco Exists. Fix that please Riot.

  • ronniesan
    -1 points Nov 23,2018, 5:30pm

    Problems with Shaco: He exist

  • FreeDealer
    -2 points Nov 23,2018, 2:37pm

    why does this always happen, someone sees someone make an original fucking post then some guy has to go out of his way to make sure he gets his own version

  • 1923mp4
    -2 points Nov 23,2018, 4:40pm

    Shaco players should be banned for feeding anyways

  • Dragyen
    -2 points Nov 23,2018, 5:12pm
    1. he exists

● ● ●

Problems with Cassiopeia

LEC of Offseason

COMMENTS

  • Dragull
    176 points Nov 22,2018, 4:00pm

    Whats up with her lore? Wasnt she the older sister of Katarina that got gifted or something?

  • 18almason
    300 points Nov 22,2018, 3:09pm

    Does bard have an emote? I know he has an icon but I don't think I've ever seen a bard emote.

  • Project_Rawrrr
    367 points Nov 22,2018, 3:03pm

    i like the passion

  • solidfake
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:12pm

    I....I have a nsfw smutfic of her following the incident in the tomb if you are that desperate.

  • Araddor
    93 points Nov 22,2018, 3:56pm

    A nice post, but I disagree with a lot of it. Granted, I am not a Cassiopeia main, but I have been playing her a bit lately, and I really like her passive for one. I realize, as someone else said here, that building early pen on her with Sorcerer's would be completely broken.

    The Eternum skin is great, although I agree the splash could have been better chosen. And honestly I don't give a damn about emotes or icons (see my flair).

  • Frinckles
    596 points Nov 22,2018, 3:19pm

    This is nicely done, but I don't agree with a majority of the content.

    Visually she looks fine. She even got a tail update recently. There is no reason to give her a massive overhaul.

    The passive is fine. Her abilities are scaled (ha) behind the idea that she would likely build sorcerer shoes. Look at the ratios and base damage amounts. They're bonkers. Getting sorcerer shoes on that character would be broken.

    Now, the biggest issue is you complaining about sex appeal. Sure, the non-snakey Cass might have been foxy. But you're actually complaining about the sex appeal of a fucking Gorgon. As if Cass wakes up and puts on her makeup for everyone to see. She turns people to stone man. I don't think she even showers. She is in absolutely no way a seductress (see Evelynn) and I don't understand how you even contrived that.

    Also I'm a Fiddle main and I don't have an icon or an emote. It's not a big deal.

  • fuckswithfucks
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:15pm

    hey i know you, you draw questionable cassiopeia art

  • PudelDinPasadenaV2
    22 points Nov 22,2018, 3:40pm

    I think the headpiece looks awful in the splash and in game.. The shape of the one from the s1 model works better imo.

  • danzo44
    22 points Nov 22,2018, 3:46pm

    What about Udyr?

  • Rias_Lucifer
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:57pm

    add the splashart don't represent the skins (siren is awful af)

  • Recktoz
    10 points Nov 22,2018, 4:13pm

    Those "official development sketches" are not a different take on the design, they're called "Thumbnails" and they're used to explore composition and value for the final splash art.

    See how the final Splash Art became pretty similar to "5"? That's because that's the one they picked. If they had picked any of the other ones instead, the design and look would have been the same as it is now.

    I don't think I have ever read anything about Cassiopeia being a seductress. Isn't she a Noxian diplomat or something?I just read her story, and nowhere in it does it emphasize that she is a seductress, or anyting like that. I think you might just be thirsty

    Here's her short story by the way. It's slightly more than 6 lines.https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/cassiopeia-color-story/

    Many champions haven't received emotes based on them. This goes for icons as well, I don't think I've ever seen a Viktor icon for example.

    I don't know why you're ragging on the quality of the chromas. It's something. I don't know what makes these chromas worse than others.

    And Cassiopeia's model is highly superior to that of many other champs. More fluid animations and high poly counts. Udyr, Corki, Cho'gath for example have it far worse.

  • Sickidan
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:19pm

    /cries in Ivern/

  • CanWeBuffUdyr
    3 points Nov 22,2018, 4:14pm

    Make one for Udyr.

  • Zotwi
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:40pm

    There are other champions with the same issues or worse.

  • PvEingDoneRight
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:11pm

    where'd you get the concept art for the skin from? they look pretty awesome

  • KingArea
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:18pm

    shaco mains feel ur pain

  • Bayork_LoL
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:48pm

    Rise up, cass otps. Someone has done it.

  • AthousandThoughts
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:18pm

    I hate that i cannot buy boots. trading 15 mpen (best mage stat in the game) against 20 movespeed (at lvl 18), doesnt feel nice. (335 ms -> 228 ms nerf) (72 ms from passive - 45 boots - 7 ms)= 20

    Id rather be able to get boots and Mp, which is a huge mobility and dmg spike.I think id prefere her old passive (deadly cadance) or honestly no passive at all would be better (and give her 7 ms back).

    +1 mpen per lvl would be such a bad passive tho. You want to rush flat Mp early.. Not have +18 @18.

  • xMarron
    7 points Nov 22,2018, 3:58pm

    really agree with the skin + bio part. its unbearable and not up to our standarts. loved the old bio and her history with shurima, sivir etc. But riot seems to mess up all my fav bios nowadays (ahri, cass, annie (cinematic was dope but meh bio))

    model+passive i cannot really agree, but that subjective and not a big deal

  • Sharuken7
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:37pm

    I just started picking her up. What a coincidence.

  • Ekusa_
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:43pm

    Hey, at least your champ has a skin that iant a joke, meanwhile ivern player here.. but then agin, the champ is a joke by himself

  • Postrit
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:51pm

    Has someone seen a Corki main complaining about his current state, every time he’s meta they nerf him hard, the lack of an icon, the poor lore around him, his model? It’s easy to say rito pls invest in my main but people don’t stop for a moment and think that if riot does it for them they should do it for everyone and that’s not gonna happen…

  • deviant324
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:54pm

    Give her an actual passive and a replacements for boots to buy, like special charm items that gove her stats (doesn’t have to be MS but at least something to make up for her MPen issues due to being unable to buy Sorc Shoes).

  • ZaNeVoYtKo
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:00pm

    There are plenty of other champs that need attention over Cass, just saying.

  • everytime-we-touch
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:14pm

    I agree w the thing about models and splash arts being horrible.

    Oh and the lore shit. Damn, that one is sad.

  • XxCarrascoxX
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:18pm

    In the case of lore, she has been included in the Varus story. Of course not by name. But her snake curse might have something to do with Darkin now.

  • ColeTrain533
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:22pm

    I'd love to work in the lore department of riot seems like so much fun.

  • DanToMars
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:24pm

    I need this passion but directed at Wukong

  • TheWindWanderer
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:29pm

    Cass used to be my favourite champion, would totally one trick back then. Give her mana cost reduction stack passive back, she was such a bully. Fuck I miss her now!

  • JAZEYEN
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:31pm

    I can't for the life of me remember where I saw it, I just spent 30 minutes looking for it.

    But I've seen Cass as some sort of cartoony emote. At first I thought it the sticker pack they made for Facebook, then I checked if it was a fan made one for the misunderstood emotions contest thing.

    I can't find it... anyway. I've seen it multiple times, very vividly, no idea where.

    Also her base model, IMO holds up very well. I didn't even realize it was that old honestly.

    But per passive is dumb. So many champions have two passive and I think she does deserve one. Like maybe a stacking effects like bleeds and dots(I.E. Darius/Twitch) where if she hits you enough times with poisons a potent % max HP one will tick and maybe a big but short MS bonus will go?

    Idk, I'm just spit balling.

  • derpyherpsen
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:36pm

    Legit the 5th concept art for eternum cass is actually [[vraska's contempt]] u/mtgcardfetcher

  • NocteCorvus
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:40pm

    Not a Cassio main by any degree, but I love to play mid. In reference to your point about the lackluster passive, I hate that it locks Cassio out from a unique set of items that are impactful because she can't buy boots. I enjoy how diverse and adaptive boot choices can be, so not being able to get tenacity against other CC heavy mages via Merc Treads or Tabis to block out a ton of autos when their ADs are fed feels suuuper bad. Minimally, they need to give her a way to get these passives that are otherwise available to other champs.

  • Vdant
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:43pm

    I was on your side until you called Rammus "simple". HERESY!

  • tigerking615
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:45pm

    Yup, all this makes sense.

    Picking Cass is putting up a giant flag that says "Camp Me!". I pick her if I'm playing with friends that are better than me, because I'm a good Cass and can hold lane vs better players. If I'm needed to carry the team, I'd never pick her, because she takes way too long to get going and is so easy to set behind.

  • Kizokun
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:47pm

    As a Cass player, she needs attention. Also, Tahm Kench needs an actual skin.

  • NessaMagick
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:53pm

    Holy shit, it's CASSBUFFSWHEN anon.

  • pingasthrowaway
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:01pm

    Sorcs shoes are easily the strongest item in the entire game. Mpen is the most efficient stat for fighting champions that dont build MR, and sorcs shoes is pure mpen tied to MS instead of having to buy a useless morellonomicon or oblivion orb just for the pen. (Why tie a niche passive to a super important stat that every mage wants?)

    Cass needs access to more than 15 mpen.

  • ohnoitslubu
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:02pm

    This is great! Please make one for illaoi. <3

  • kurikurimix49
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:04pm

    OP have you ever considered an Evelynn revert?

  • NocaNoha
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:08pm

    Upvote for the effort. Something refreshing could be done for the snake.. especially lore wise [I do like to read lore.. so yeah xd]. Gameplay wise, no idea. Her model looks fine to me, passive is kinda.. meh.. and in-game she seems strong enough haha

  • InfamousAmerican
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:11pm

    All are fair and valid criticisms, I believe the problem comes as Cass was introduced as League was exploding and they were designing fewer champs with the skills and abilities being the main focus instead designing a theme (ie Cass is "Snake Lady", Olaf is "Viking"). This leads to the problem of having uninspired characters who just fit a certain theme, and their skills are an expression of that theme.

    I believe this has shifted in recent years. Take Zoe (I know, maybe not balanced but please bear with me) her entire kit is designed around her Q with every ability having a purpose in aiding the damage/ reliability of Q.

  • Zankman
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:16pm

    Feels too harsh, but most of this is quite spot on... Though with so many Champs, ultimately there are always going to be overlooked ones due to being "just kinda O.K.".

    They definitely failed in the sex appeal regard, she is supposed to be more sexual due to her character... Ironically, given what they do with every other female Champ.

  • xK1ngslayer
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:17pm

    meanwhile i'm sitting in a corner crying as an udyr main. the only "thing" udyr has is an upgrade to something that could be a basemodel for a new released champ which costs 20 bucks

  • SlimyDogFart
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:18pm

    Shaco Mains chortle in the shadows

  • XenonFyre
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:19pm

    cries in Pantheon

  • _Aki_
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:21pm

    A lot of this is true for other old champions as well, especially the ones that Riot doesn't like such as Pantheon, Skarner and Volibear. They are very clear about their favourites (I'm honestly really surprised Ahri doesn't have a 3k RP skin yet) and if your favourite champ isn't one of them, you have to hope they will allow them to be viable for a while before they get nerfed.

  • ohmsathome
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:23pm

    Her passive reminds me of another game. In Pokémon, Regigigas has an ability called Slow Start which halves the Attack and Speed stats for 5 terms. Neither passive/ability actually help the character and at least in Regigigas case it is to nerf a character that might be too strong otherwise.

  • MattSerj
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:28pm

    This is well made bait

  • Egzo18
    5 points Nov 22,2018, 3:59pm

    Tottaly agree man, I love Cassio, one of the hardest champs in the game and pretty fun to watch/play too, she should def get some work done on her! Please ritoo

  • ploki122
    9 points Nov 22,2018, 3:49pm

    The problem with Cassiopeia's passive isn't really that she can't buy early MPen or get that rush of MS. It's that for the sake of having good damage, they completely fucked her mobility over.

    Karthus has 335 base speed. Vel'Koz has 340 base speed. Syndra has 330 base speed. Pantheon has 355 base speed. Cassiopeia has 328. To reach Syndra's speed with brown boots, she needs to be level 7. Catching up to Vel'Koz with Sorc shoes would actually require her to be level 17. So basically, to catch anyone ever, she is required to land her Q or W (W having a base CD of 18 seconds initially).

    Honestly, "dealing a lot of damage" isn't an identity. Not when ADCs do it all the time, and Ryze and Taliyah both do it pretty much as well but without sacrificing anything else for it. Cassiopeia needs a rework.

  • TYBW-Yoruichi
    6 points Nov 22,2018, 4:21pm

    I'm amazed by this because not only did this person use facts and imagery but you can feel the passion and love that this person has for this champion.

    I've been playing League Of Legends since 2013 and I remembered how in the forums/boards people were angry with her changes. To the point where on her second change during the mage update, a rioter asked the community for suggestions/help on what would satisfy them.

    It's actually really sad to read this because it's so true. I feel bad for the champion itself.

    PS: THAT FIRST ETERNUM SKETCH IS SICK AND SEXY AF!

  • GA_Deathstalker
    3 points Nov 22,2018, 3:41pm

    I don't agree on the passive, but with the rest I agree. I think the passive isn't bad and metas are always changing and Riot always drops more gold into the game.

  • victoriouspancake
    2 points Nov 22,2018, 4:06pm

    But lore wise, isnt cassiopeia katarina's sister, sent to grab some shuriman artefacts in azir's tomb, only to end up turn into a snake by a magical trap ?

    See here:

    https://youtu.be/JKnM6Hh5gOg

    https://youtu.be/CYyuH1Bp2ZI

  • BADMANvegeta_
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:43pm

    You right

  • nTzT
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:30pm

    Tons of champs have issues atm imo.

  • Canastus
    8 points Nov 22,2018, 3:00pm

    Just wanted to share my thoughts on this champion in a clear way, I hope it's easy to comprehend.

  • Magehunter_Skassi
    3 points Nov 22,2018, 3:37pm

    Non-Cass main problem with CassiOPeia:

    Why does a teamfight based mage get to 1v1 nearly every mid laner in the game? Why does a lategame scaling champion (that can even reach 6 items in a giga lategame match) also get to be a lane bully?

    CassiOPeia was better when she would be massively punished for missing her E on a poisoned target.

  • RAMAR713
    3 points Nov 22,2018, 3:45pm

    Great infographic, love the presentation. I disagree with some points such as Cass not having more icons or emotes; lots of champions don't and that's not a critical issue imo. That said she deserves a cool new skin and of course her passive is very sad by modern design standards.

  • Roneator
    3 points Nov 22,2018, 3:53pm

    Totally agree

  • a_very__bad_time
    3 points Nov 22,2018, 3:08pm

    fully agree on the passive. such a fucking stupid gimmick.

  • knobdoor
    3 points Nov 22,2018, 3:31pm

    Great job. Even though people may disagree with the content, the bright side is this gets the conversation rolling

  • BeaverGames
    2 points Nov 22,2018, 4:16pm

    These aren't really problems

  • SuperSkillz10
    2 points Nov 22,2018, 4:19pm

    i like the way you address the problems. nice format!

  • jpashek00
    2 points Nov 22,2018, 4:29pm

    It also can be said she received nerfs for S9 because Celerity, Taste of Blood, and Ravenous Hunter all got nerfed this patch. Can barely even play her as a counter pick even ://

  • Rias_Lucifer
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:55pm

    sorry to tell you but riot don't play skilled champs so they don't see the problem

    play akali if you are not happy

  • KingAuth0r
    2 points Nov 22,2018, 3:22pm

    Passionate AF

  • yeasowut
    3 points Nov 22,2018, 3:26pm

    In short: Cassmains waited half a decade for a random 1350 RP skin

    As someone who plays some pretty unpopular champions I know how that feels. Especially with Mecha ASol recently, it's like Riot throws a dart and picks a random skin theme. At least that one has a good splash.

    Yorick players asked Riot to lower the brightness of his model and Riot ignored them. When Xayah and Rakan Valentine skins were poorly received, everyone hold up.

    It's pretty clear that Riot only cares about their lucrative products. Unpopular champions have 0 emotes despite them being about the laziest product Riot can make.

  • De4deye
    4 points Nov 22,2018, 3:39pm

    Well ty for the good laugh mate

  • TheRealDorkSpork
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 3:50pm

    There are more birdio emotes/icons than galio icons.

    As a main of both champs, at least galio has dope skins tho

  • TheyCallMeAdonis
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 3:51pm

    now make a graphic for all the other champions.

  • Penguino_
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 3:55pm

    Ugh I hope they keep her loading screens even though they will eventually replace them. I love the style of art they’re in of almost looking like a painting.

  • machidin
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:55pm

    Cassio who?

  • MolniyaSokol
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:56pm

    "Serpintine Grace: Literally a meme and nothing else... locks out from obtaining early mpen."
    Not sure if troll or doesn't know how valuable free movespeed is and hasn't seen Oblivion Orb yet..

  • King-Of-Rats
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:57pm

    Couldn't this argument be made for like a quarter of the roster? Zilean, Malphite, Volibear, Corki, etc.

  • Tekhartha_Mondatta
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:01pm

    Most champs would kill to have a skin as good as eternum

  • Riley_
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:02pm

    Cass is a great champ with high skill ceiling and high reward. The only problem with her is her potential for abuse by scripters.

  • CthulhuLoves
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:04pm

    Never expected to see complaints about a character not having enough sex appeal...

  • Yeet_on_deez_nibbas
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:05pm

    Cassio DOES have an emote, the crying one.

  • iamcherry
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:14pm

    I disagree with the passive criticism. There is value in not having to have boots in your inventory even when you aren't at six items. It allows you more room for consumables or component items.

  • maufut11
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:16pm

    This is even worse on Shaco. He doesn't even appear in cinematics.

  • ROZpolsha
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:17pm

    Compared to what Skarner got over last 5 years, Cass main should be thankful for what they have.

  • AuroraUnit313
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:25pm

    *clicks profile

  • izzy710f
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:29pm

    Want to talk about outdated splash art have you seen corki?

  • xFostex
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:30pm

    I'm a mordekaiser main.

    Lol.

  • rotzkotz
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:31pm

    I love my elternum cassio!

  • DJShevchenko
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:31pm

    Ayo fuck off. Siren Cassio is the best

  • tomangelo2
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:33pm

    About splashes - that's right, her splashes are old, yet there are still some splashes that needs remade even more (mainly legacy ones - Shamrock Malphite, Nightmare Cho'Gath, Black Alistar).

    General visual update - look above. Would be welcome, yet again, there are champions that need it even more (Fiddle or Shaco as first thought)

    No content - again, she isn't only one here. From 140 champions there are probably a lot more that didn't get any emote nor icon.

    Lore - look for The Shedding of Skin story. It's not much, yet still not in worst state.

    Passive - here I agree, it's weird one. You can play around that buying another damage item instead of boots, yet sometimes you would want to make some use of actual boots and their passives (Mercury against lots of CC? Tabi to counter enemy ADC?)

  • Sandor_Cleganus
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:40pm

    You're kinda biased considering you never mentioned the tail update in the model section. There are champions that have it much worse but i get what you want to say.

  • Ruggsii
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:42pm

    Is this a shitpost? Wow she only has 1 icon?! Omg!

  • Pughhead
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:46pm

    WOW you are saty..

  • YourKingReturns
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:50pm

    I agree on the skins, but there's also a million champs with less than stellar lore.

  • Deauo
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:52pm

    Yeah, I was pretty confused when they called her a Shuriman, isn't she Kat's sister?

  • FeedonTears
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:54pm

    So this will get buried, but the 'six lines of text' in her lore is as wrong as it gets. Cassiopeia's biography may only have six lines of text, but she has an entire short story called The Shedding of the Skin.

  • Lewanor
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:56pm

    Now compare it to Talon please. I'd do one like yours but I know it'll get downvoted because everyone hates Talon. Majority at least.

  • orangemanbaddd
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:06pm

    champ is still fun as shit and even seen in competitive play. dumb post. at first i thought this was like a riot post talking about making changes to the champ but once you get past halfway the tone gets bitchier and you realize its just some kid whining and presenting opinions as fact

    when people make posts like this i can never discern the reasoning, if he was a cassio main, he would like the champ and would therefore not have these concerns, or you dont main it in the first place. if he's not a cassio main, then let cassio players speak on their own behalf as their opinion is 100x more valuable

    bringing the passive up is also invalid. the change to the length of games was far too recent, and to say that it is "literally a meme and nothing else" is disingenuous when it clearly has a purpose because games do still go on to get to 6 items with decent frequency, even if reduced.

    dumb post

  • MP_40
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:09pm

    lacking a conclusion or solution

  • Rick0wens
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:10pm

    Y’all really care that much about what the splash arts😂

  • ubernat
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:21pm

    Urgot has no sex appeal, why does riot hate us so much

  • MyLOLNameWasTaken
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:27pm

    THIS has thousands of upvotes? Mordekaiser is nigh unplayable with his numerous bugs. Someone posted a massive list and got LOL front page but Riot has done nearly nothing and you’re worried about Cassiopeia?

    Imagine getting entirely locked out of your Q; that’s a reoccurring Morde bug.

    Make Morde great again.

  • Pelva
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:29pm

    mos of this is visual/skin based, so i dont give a fuck. But her passive is a joke, thats right

  • Ravore
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:19pm

    It's mostly cosmetics you're worried about but i do agree her passive should buff her in some way

  • InfieldTriple
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:29pm

    Jesus dude, relax.

  • Canvaii
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:46pm

    First of all, damm this animation looks so cool. On the other hand ur right. The ability to have no boots is terrible when you look at the mobility of modern champs/ reworks. I wish she would get a bit more love cause its so satisfying seeing a well played cassio ( looking at you Nisqy)

  • Thebola
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:46pm

    op saying what we all been thinking!

  • Valigrance
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:12pm

    When I played league of legends Cassiopeia was my favorite Character to play. Then they updated her and fucked her completely up. Even the lore was taken from her. After already breaking two IKEA desks (due to the community) and then this happening I officially gave up league.

  • tljindo
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:20pm

    Old passive gave Cass free lifesteal, 25%CDR, and 20% bonus AP. New passive is a nerf, nothing more to say. I'd rather spend 1100g for a nice chunk of movespeed NOW then an incremental increase overtime. Meanwhile what can you buy with 1100g that can make up for the loss CDR and AP?

  • blauny
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:46pm

    Yo nice post but don't ever talk shit about our boi Rammus again!

  • lombardiaaa
    0 points Nov 22,2018, 4:00pm

    I like this, a passive should give something to the user rather than take something away. For instance Kalista's autos only doing 90% damage, but who is she anyway?

  • Vangorf
    -2 points Nov 22,2018, 3:24pm

    I really really would like to pick up Cassiopeia for ranked but she looks and feels so fucking underwhelming I would probably fall back to Iron IV from P1 because of playing her :(

  • meekiez
    0 points Nov 22,2018, 3:55pm

    Hmmm I still don’t care

  • psham
    0 points Nov 22,2018, 4:11pm

    whats a cassiopeia

  • deleted
    0 points Nov 22,2018, 4:30pm

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  • Sky-Knightmare
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:53pm

    Perfect points

  • HenryNewhero
    -1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:10pm

    Her Eternum skin is ridiculous and have nothing good compared to Nocturne and Rek'sai Eternum which bot have cool VFX, Texture (Cassiopeia doesn't have the same scale as Nocturne and Rek'sai looks like she is weaker), her Eternum Lore is nonsense literally because Nocturne and Rek'sai they aren't Aliens, but she is????

    I think that she is in the same boat with J4 Dark Star and Cosmic Ashe, Lulu and Xin Zhao...

  • Just_Swiftyx
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:17pm

    Who cares about any of this? You give a shit about the fact that she only has 1 summoner icon? Really sad. Cosmetics and balance are the only things to care about. Riot don't care about the lore, it's obvious. It was never good and it was never gonna improve. Christ this is pathetic.

  • Hautamaki
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:28pm

    high quality whining over a total non-issue. Cass is probably not even in the bottom half of champs in need of more love. Her balance is good, her gameplay patterns are clear and fair and fun, her visuals are good especially with the tail update, there are so many champions that have so many more severe problems than Cassopeia.

  • WackyJack3y
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:01pm

    Is this a joke?? Why is this post on the front page and actually relevant issues not?

  • sombervision
    -1 points Nov 22,2018, 3:57pm

    (at least she has a summoner icon)....cough... Heimer.

  • Frothar
    -1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:28pm

    so there are no problems at all apart from she hasnt got a good enough skin

  • heroicsej
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:49pm

    Yeah, unfortunately you havent changed at all snaketits. Just more complaining.

COMMENTS

  • Dragull
    176 points Nov 22,2018, 4:00pm

    Whats up with her lore? Wasnt she the older sister of Katarina that got gifted or something?

  • 18almason
    300 points Nov 22,2018, 3:09pm

    Does bard have an emote? I know he has an icon but I don't think I've ever seen a bard emote.

  • Project_Rawrrr
    367 points Nov 22,2018, 3:03pm

    i like the passion

  • supergoji18
    207 points Nov 22,2018, 3:15pm

    I appreciate the formatting of this post. Though I am not a Cassiopeia main, I understand many of the issues you bring up here. I hope this post gets more attention.

  • solidfake
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:12pm

    I....I have a nsfw smutfic of her following the incident in the tomb if you are that desperate.

  • Araddor
    93 points Nov 22,2018, 3:56pm

    A nice post, but I disagree with a lot of it. Granted, I am not a Cassiopeia main, but I have been playing her a bit lately, and I really like her passive for one. I realize, as someone else said here, that building early pen on her with Sorcerer's would be completely broken.

    The Eternum skin is great, although I agree the splash could have been better chosen. And honestly I don't give a damn about emotes or icons (see my flair).

  • Frinckles
    596 points Nov 22,2018, 3:19pm

    This is nicely done, but I don't agree with a majority of the content.

    Visually she looks fine. She even got a tail update recently. There is no reason to give her a massive overhaul.

    The passive is fine. Her abilities are scaled (ha) behind the idea that she would likely build sorcerer shoes. Look at the ratios and base damage amounts. They're bonkers. Getting sorcerer shoes on that character would be broken.

    Now, the biggest issue is you complaining about sex appeal. Sure, the non-snakey Cass might have been foxy. But you're actually complaining about the sex appeal of a fucking Gorgon. As if Cass wakes up and puts on her makeup for everyone to see. She turns people to stone man. I don't think she even showers. She is in absolutely no way a seductress (see Evelynn) and I don't understand how you even contrived that.

    Also I'm a Fiddle main and I don't have an icon or an emote. It's not a big deal.

  • fuckswithfucks
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:15pm

    hey i know you, you draw questionable cassiopeia art

  • PudelDinPasadenaV2
    22 points Nov 22,2018, 3:40pm

    I think the headpiece looks awful in the splash and in game.. The shape of the one from the s1 model works better imo.

  • danzo44
    22 points Nov 22,2018, 3:46pm

    What about Udyr?

  • Rias_Lucifer
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:57pm

    add the splashart don't represent the skins (siren is awful af)

  • Recktoz
    10 points Nov 22,2018, 4:13pm

    Those "official development sketches" are not a different take on the design, they're called "Thumbnails" and they're used to explore composition and value for the final splash art.

    See how the final Splash Art became pretty similar to "5"? That's because that's the one they picked. If they had picked any of the other ones instead, the design and look would have been the same as it is now.

    I don't think I have ever read anything about Cassiopeia being a seductress. Isn't she a Noxian diplomat or something?I just read her story, and nowhere in it does it emphasize that she is a seductress, or anyting like that. I think you might just be thirsty

    Here's her short story by the way. It's slightly more than 6 lines.https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/cassiopeia-color-story/

    Many champions haven't received emotes based on them. This goes for icons as well, I don't think I've ever seen a Viktor icon for example.

    I don't know why you're ragging on the quality of the chromas. It's something. I don't know what makes these chromas worse than others.

    And Cassiopeia's model is highly superior to that of many other champs. More fluid animations and high poly counts. Udyr, Corki, Cho'gath for example have it far worse.

  • Sickidan
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:19pm

    /cries in Ivern/

  • CanWeBuffUdyr
    3 points Nov 22,2018, 4:14pm

    Make one for Udyr.

  • Zotwi
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:40pm

    There are other champions with the same issues or worse.

  • PvEingDoneRight
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:11pm

    where'd you get the concept art for the skin from? they look pretty awesome

  • KingArea
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:18pm

    shaco mains feel ur pain

  • Bayork_LoL
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:48pm

    Rise up, cass otps. Someone has done it.

  • AthousandThoughts
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:18pm

    I hate that i cannot buy boots. trading 15 mpen (best mage stat in the game) against 20 movespeed (at lvl 18), doesnt feel nice. (335 ms -> 228 ms nerf) (72 ms from passive - 45 boots - 7 ms)= 20

    Id rather be able to get boots and Mp, which is a huge mobility and dmg spike.I think id prefere her old passive (deadly cadance) or honestly no passive at all would be better (and give her 7 ms back).

    +1 mpen per lvl would be such a bad passive tho. You want to rush flat Mp early.. Not have +18 @18.

  • xMarron
    7 points Nov 22,2018, 3:58pm

    really agree with the skin + bio part. its unbearable and not up to our standarts. loved the old bio and her history with shurima, sivir etc. But riot seems to mess up all my fav bios nowadays (ahri, cass, annie (cinematic was dope but meh bio))

    model+passive i cannot really agree, but that subjective and not a big deal

  • Sharuken7
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:37pm

    I just started picking her up. What a coincidence.

  • Ekusa_
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:43pm

    Hey, at least your champ has a skin that iant a joke, meanwhile ivern player here.. but then agin, the champ is a joke by himself

  • Postrit
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:51pm

    Has someone seen a Corki main complaining about his current state, every time he’s meta they nerf him hard, the lack of an icon, the poor lore around him, his model? It’s easy to say rito pls invest in my main but people don’t stop for a moment and think that if riot does it for them they should do it for everyone and that’s not gonna happen…

  • deviant324
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:54pm

    Give her an actual passive and a replacements for boots to buy, like special charm items that gove her stats (doesn’t have to be MS but at least something to make up for her MPen issues due to being unable to buy Sorc Shoes).

  • ZaNeVoYtKo
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:00pm

    There are plenty of other champs that need attention over Cass, just saying.

  • everytime-we-touch
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:14pm

    I agree w the thing about models and splash arts being horrible.

    Oh and the lore shit. Damn, that one is sad.

  • XxCarrascoxX
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:18pm

    In the case of lore, she has been included in the Varus story. Of course not by name. But her snake curse might have something to do with Darkin now.

  • ColeTrain533
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:22pm

    I'd love to work in the lore department of riot seems like so much fun.

  • DanToMars
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:24pm

    I need this passion but directed at Wukong

  • TheWindWanderer
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:29pm

    Cass used to be my favourite champion, would totally one trick back then. Give her mana cost reduction stack passive back, she was such a bully. Fuck I miss her now!

  • JAZEYEN
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:31pm

    I can't for the life of me remember where I saw it, I just spent 30 minutes looking for it.

    But I've seen Cass as some sort of cartoony emote. At first I thought it the sticker pack they made for Facebook, then I checked if it was a fan made one for the misunderstood emotions contest thing.

    I can't find it... anyway. I've seen it multiple times, very vividly, no idea where.

    Also her base model, IMO holds up very well. I didn't even realize it was that old honestly.

    But per passive is dumb. So many champions have two passive and I think she does deserve one. Like maybe a stacking effects like bleeds and dots(I.E. Darius/Twitch) where if she hits you enough times with poisons a potent % max HP one will tick and maybe a big but short MS bonus will go?

    Idk, I'm just spit balling.

  • derpyherpsen
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:36pm

    Legit the 5th concept art for eternum cass is actually [[vraska's contempt]] u/mtgcardfetcher

  • NocteCorvus
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:40pm

    Not a Cassio main by any degree, but I love to play mid. In reference to your point about the lackluster passive, I hate that it locks Cassio out from a unique set of items that are impactful because she can't buy boots. I enjoy how diverse and adaptive boot choices can be, so not being able to get tenacity against other CC heavy mages via Merc Treads or Tabis to block out a ton of autos when their ADs are fed feels suuuper bad. Minimally, they need to give her a way to get these passives that are otherwise available to other champs.

  • Vdant
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:43pm

    I was on your side until you called Rammus "simple". HERESY!

  • tigerking615
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:45pm

    Yup, all this makes sense.

    Picking Cass is putting up a giant flag that says "Camp Me!". I pick her if I'm playing with friends that are better than me, because I'm a good Cass and can hold lane vs better players. If I'm needed to carry the team, I'd never pick her, because she takes way too long to get going and is so easy to set behind.

  • Kizokun
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:47pm

    As a Cass player, she needs attention. Also, Tahm Kench needs an actual skin.

  • NessaMagick
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:53pm

    Holy shit, it's CASSBUFFSWHEN anon.

  • pingasthrowaway
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:01pm

    Sorcs shoes are easily the strongest item in the entire game. Mpen is the most efficient stat for fighting champions that dont build MR, and sorcs shoes is pure mpen tied to MS instead of having to buy a useless morellonomicon or oblivion orb just for the pen. (Why tie a niche passive to a super important stat that every mage wants?)

    Cass needs access to more than 15 mpen.

  • ohnoitslubu
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:02pm

    This is great! Please make one for illaoi. <3

  • kurikurimix49
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:04pm

    OP have you ever considered an Evelynn revert?

  • NocaNoha
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:08pm

    Upvote for the effort. Something refreshing could be done for the snake.. especially lore wise [I do like to read lore.. so yeah xd]. Gameplay wise, no idea. Her model looks fine to me, passive is kinda.. meh.. and in-game she seems strong enough haha

  • InfamousAmerican
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:11pm

    All are fair and valid criticisms, I believe the problem comes as Cass was introduced as League was exploding and they were designing fewer champs with the skills and abilities being the main focus instead designing a theme (ie Cass is "Snake Lady", Olaf is "Viking"). This leads to the problem of having uninspired characters who just fit a certain theme, and their skills are an expression of that theme.

    I believe this has shifted in recent years. Take Zoe (I know, maybe not balanced but please bear with me) her entire kit is designed around her Q with every ability having a purpose in aiding the damage/ reliability of Q.

  • Zankman
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:16pm

    Feels too harsh, but most of this is quite spot on... Though with so many Champs, ultimately there are always going to be overlooked ones due to being "just kinda O.K.".

    They definitely failed in the sex appeal regard, she is supposed to be more sexual due to her character... Ironically, given what they do with every other female Champ.

  • xK1ngslayer
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:17pm

    meanwhile i'm sitting in a corner crying as an udyr main. the only "thing" udyr has is an upgrade to something that could be a basemodel for a new released champ which costs 20 bucks

  • SlimyDogFart
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:18pm

    Shaco Mains chortle in the shadows

  • XenonFyre
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:19pm

    cries in Pantheon

  • _Aki_
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:21pm

    A lot of this is true for other old champions as well, especially the ones that Riot doesn't like such as Pantheon, Skarner and Volibear. They are very clear about their favourites (I'm honestly really surprised Ahri doesn't have a 3k RP skin yet) and if your favourite champ isn't one of them, you have to hope they will allow them to be viable for a while before they get nerfed.

  • ohmsathome
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:23pm

    Her passive reminds me of another game. In Pokémon, Regigigas has an ability called Slow Start which halves the Attack and Speed stats for 5 terms. Neither passive/ability actually help the character and at least in Regigigas case it is to nerf a character that might be too strong otherwise.

  • MattSerj
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:28pm

    This is well made bait

  • Egzo18
    5 points Nov 22,2018, 3:59pm

    Tottaly agree man, I love Cassio, one of the hardest champs in the game and pretty fun to watch/play too, she should def get some work done on her! Please ritoo

  • ploki122
    9 points Nov 22,2018, 3:49pm

    The problem with Cassiopeia's passive isn't really that she can't buy early MPen or get that rush of MS. It's that for the sake of having good damage, they completely fucked her mobility over.

    Karthus has 335 base speed. Vel'Koz has 340 base speed. Syndra has 330 base speed. Pantheon has 355 base speed. Cassiopeia has 328. To reach Syndra's speed with brown boots, she needs to be level 7. Catching up to Vel'Koz with Sorc shoes would actually require her to be level 17. So basically, to catch anyone ever, she is required to land her Q or W (W having a base CD of 18 seconds initially).

    Honestly, "dealing a lot of damage" isn't an identity. Not when ADCs do it all the time, and Ryze and Taliyah both do it pretty much as well but without sacrificing anything else for it. Cassiopeia needs a rework.

  • TYBW-Yoruichi
    6 points Nov 22,2018, 4:21pm

    I'm amazed by this because not only did this person use facts and imagery but you can feel the passion and love that this person has for this champion.

    I've been playing League Of Legends since 2013 and I remembered how in the forums/boards people were angry with her changes. To the point where on her second change during the mage update, a rioter asked the community for suggestions/help on what would satisfy them.

    It's actually really sad to read this because it's so true. I feel bad for the champion itself.

    PS: THAT FIRST ETERNUM SKETCH IS SICK AND SEXY AF!

  • GA_Deathstalker
    3 points Nov 22,2018, 3:41pm

    I don't agree on the passive, but with the rest I agree. I think the passive isn't bad and metas are always changing and Riot always drops more gold into the game.

  • victoriouspancake
    2 points Nov 22,2018, 4:06pm

    But lore wise, isnt cassiopeia katarina's sister, sent to grab some shuriman artefacts in azir's tomb, only to end up turn into a snake by a magical trap ?

    See here:

    https://youtu.be/JKnM6Hh5gOg

    https://youtu.be/CYyuH1Bp2ZI

  • BADMANvegeta_
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:43pm

    You right

  • nTzT
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:30pm

    Tons of champs have issues atm imo.

  • Canastus
    8 points Nov 22,2018, 3:00pm

    Just wanted to share my thoughts on this champion in a clear way, I hope it's easy to comprehend.

  • Magehunter_Skassi
    3 points Nov 22,2018, 3:37pm

    Non-Cass main problem with CassiOPeia:

    Why does a teamfight based mage get to 1v1 nearly every mid laner in the game? Why does a lategame scaling champion (that can even reach 6 items in a giga lategame match) also get to be a lane bully?

    CassiOPeia was better when she would be massively punished for missing her E on a poisoned target.

  • RAMAR713
    3 points Nov 22,2018, 3:45pm

    Great infographic, love the presentation. I disagree with some points such as Cass not having more icons or emotes; lots of champions don't and that's not a critical issue imo. That said she deserves a cool new skin and of course her passive is very sad by modern design standards.

  • Roneator
    3 points Nov 22,2018, 3:53pm

    Totally agree

  • a_very__bad_time
    3 points Nov 22,2018, 3:08pm

    fully agree on the passive. such a fucking stupid gimmick.

  • knobdoor
    3 points Nov 22,2018, 3:31pm

    Great job. Even though people may disagree with the content, the bright side is this gets the conversation rolling

  • BeaverGames
    2 points Nov 22,2018, 4:16pm

    These aren't really problems

  • SuperSkillz10
    2 points Nov 22,2018, 4:19pm

    i like the way you address the problems. nice format!

  • jpashek00
    2 points Nov 22,2018, 4:29pm

    It also can be said she received nerfs for S9 because Celerity, Taste of Blood, and Ravenous Hunter all got nerfed this patch. Can barely even play her as a counter pick even ://

  • Rias_Lucifer
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:55pm

    sorry to tell you but riot don't play skilled champs so they don't see the problem

    play akali if you are not happy

  • KingAuth0r
    2 points Nov 22,2018, 3:22pm

    Passionate AF

  • yeasowut
    3 points Nov 22,2018, 3:26pm

    In short: Cassmains waited half a decade for a random 1350 RP skin

    As someone who plays some pretty unpopular champions I know how that feels. Especially with Mecha ASol recently, it's like Riot throws a dart and picks a random skin theme. At least that one has a good splash.

    Yorick players asked Riot to lower the brightness of his model and Riot ignored them. When Xayah and Rakan Valentine skins were poorly received, everyone hold up.

    It's pretty clear that Riot only cares about their lucrative products. Unpopular champions have 0 emotes despite them being about the laziest product Riot can make.

  • De4deye
    4 points Nov 22,2018, 3:39pm

    Well ty for the good laugh mate

  • TheRealDorkSpork
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 3:50pm

    There are more birdio emotes/icons than galio icons.

    As a main of both champs, at least galio has dope skins tho

  • TheyCallMeAdonis
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 3:51pm

    now make a graphic for all the other champions.

  • Penguino_
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 3:55pm

    Ugh I hope they keep her loading screens even though they will eventually replace them. I love the style of art they’re in of almost looking like a painting.

  • machidin
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:55pm

    Cassio who?

  • MolniyaSokol
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:56pm

    "Serpintine Grace: Literally a meme and nothing else... locks out from obtaining early mpen."
    Not sure if troll or doesn't know how valuable free movespeed is and hasn't seen Oblivion Orb yet..

  • King-Of-Rats
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:57pm

    Couldn't this argument be made for like a quarter of the roster? Zilean, Malphite, Volibear, Corki, etc.

  • Tekhartha_Mondatta
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:01pm

    Most champs would kill to have a skin as good as eternum

  • Riley_
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:02pm

    Cass is a great champ with high skill ceiling and high reward. The only problem with her is her potential for abuse by scripters.

  • CthulhuLoves
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:04pm

    Never expected to see complaints about a character not having enough sex appeal...

  • Yeet_on_deez_nibbas
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:05pm

    Cassio DOES have an emote, the crying one.

  • iamcherry
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:14pm

    I disagree with the passive criticism. There is value in not having to have boots in your inventory even when you aren't at six items. It allows you more room for consumables or component items.

  • maufut11
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:16pm

    This is even worse on Shaco. He doesn't even appear in cinematics.

  • ROZpolsha
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:17pm

    Compared to what Skarner got over last 5 years, Cass main should be thankful for what they have.

  • AuroraUnit313
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:25pm

    *clicks profile

  • izzy710f
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:29pm

    Want to talk about outdated splash art have you seen corki?

  • xFostex
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:30pm

    I'm a mordekaiser main.

    Lol.

  • rotzkotz
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:31pm

    I love my elternum cassio!

  • DJShevchenko
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:31pm

    Ayo fuck off. Siren Cassio is the best

  • tomangelo2
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:33pm

    About splashes - that's right, her splashes are old, yet there are still some splashes that needs remade even more (mainly legacy ones - Shamrock Malphite, Nightmare Cho'Gath, Black Alistar).

    General visual update - look above. Would be welcome, yet again, there are champions that need it even more (Fiddle or Shaco as first thought)

    No content - again, she isn't only one here. From 140 champions there are probably a lot more that didn't get any emote nor icon.

    Lore - look for The Shedding of Skin story. It's not much, yet still not in worst state.

    Passive - here I agree, it's weird one. You can play around that buying another damage item instead of boots, yet sometimes you would want to make some use of actual boots and their passives (Mercury against lots of CC? Tabi to counter enemy ADC?)

  • Sandor_Cleganus
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:40pm

    You're kinda biased considering you never mentioned the tail update in the model section. There are champions that have it much worse but i get what you want to say.

  • Ruggsii
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:42pm

    Is this a shitpost? Wow she only has 1 icon?! Omg!

  • Pughhead
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:46pm

    WOW you are saty..

  • YourKingReturns
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:50pm

    I agree on the skins, but there's also a million champs with less than stellar lore.

  • Deauo
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:52pm

    Yeah, I was pretty confused when they called her a Shuriman, isn't she Kat's sister?

  • FeedonTears
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:54pm

    So this will get buried, but the 'six lines of text' in her lore is as wrong as it gets. Cassiopeia's biography may only have six lines of text, but she has an entire short story called The Shedding of the Skin.

  • Lewanor
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:56pm

    Now compare it to Talon please. I'd do one like yours but I know it'll get downvoted because everyone hates Talon. Majority at least.

  • orangemanbaddd
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:06pm

    champ is still fun as shit and even seen in competitive play. dumb post. at first i thought this was like a riot post talking about making changes to the champ but once you get past halfway the tone gets bitchier and you realize its just some kid whining and presenting opinions as fact

    when people make posts like this i can never discern the reasoning, if he was a cassio main, he would like the champ and would therefore not have these concerns, or you dont main it in the first place. if he's not a cassio main, then let cassio players speak on their own behalf as their opinion is 100x more valuable

    bringing the passive up is also invalid. the change to the length of games was far too recent, and to say that it is "literally a meme and nothing else" is disingenuous when it clearly has a purpose because games do still go on to get to 6 items with decent frequency, even if reduced.

    dumb post

  • MP_40
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:09pm

    lacking a conclusion or solution

  • Rick0wens
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:10pm

    Y’all really care that much about what the splash arts😂

  • ubernat
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:21pm

    Urgot has no sex appeal, why does riot hate us so much

  • MyLOLNameWasTaken
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:27pm

    THIS has thousands of upvotes? Mordekaiser is nigh unplayable with his numerous bugs. Someone posted a massive list and got LOL front page but Riot has done nearly nothing and you’re worried about Cassiopeia?

    Imagine getting entirely locked out of your Q; that’s a reoccurring Morde bug.

    Make Morde great again.

  • Pelva
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:29pm

    mos of this is visual/skin based, so i dont give a fuck. But her passive is a joke, thats right

  • Ravore
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:19pm

    It's mostly cosmetics you're worried about but i do agree her passive should buff her in some way

  • InfieldTriple
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:29pm

    Jesus dude, relax.

  • Canvaii
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:46pm

    First of all, damm this animation looks so cool. On the other hand ur right. The ability to have no boots is terrible when you look at the mobility of modern champs/ reworks. I wish she would get a bit more love cause its so satisfying seeing a well played cassio ( looking at you Nisqy)

  • Thebola
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:46pm

    op saying what we all been thinking!

  • Valigrance
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:12pm

    When I played league of legends Cassiopeia was my favorite Character to play. Then they updated her and fucked her completely up. Even the lore was taken from her. After already breaking two IKEA desks (due to the community) and then this happening I officially gave up league.

  • tljindo
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:20pm

    Old passive gave Cass free lifesteal, 25%CDR, and 20% bonus AP. New passive is a nerf, nothing more to say. I'd rather spend 1100g for a nice chunk of movespeed NOW then an incremental increase overtime. Meanwhile what can you buy with 1100g that can make up for the loss CDR and AP?

  • blauny
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:46pm

    Yo nice post but don't ever talk shit about our boi Rammus again!

  • lombardiaaa
    0 points Nov 22,2018, 4:00pm

    I like this, a passive should give something to the user rather than take something away. For instance Kalista's autos only doing 90% damage, but who is she anyway?

  • Vangorf
    -2 points Nov 22,2018, 3:24pm

    I really really would like to pick up Cassiopeia for ranked but she looks and feels so fucking underwhelming I would probably fall back to Iron IV from P1 because of playing her :(

  • meekiez
    0 points Nov 22,2018, 3:55pm

    Hmmm I still don’t care

  • psham
    0 points Nov 22,2018, 4:11pm

    whats a cassiopeia

  • deleted
    0 points Nov 22,2018, 4:30pm

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  • Sky-Knightmare
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:53pm

    Perfect points

  • HenryNewhero
    -1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:10pm

    Her Eternum skin is ridiculous and have nothing good compared to Nocturne and Rek'sai Eternum which bot have cool VFX, Texture (Cassiopeia doesn't have the same scale as Nocturne and Rek'sai looks like she is weaker), her Eternum Lore is nonsense literally because Nocturne and Rek'sai they aren't Aliens, but she is????

    I think that she is in the same boat with J4 Dark Star and Cosmic Ashe, Lulu and Xin Zhao...

  • Just_Swiftyx
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:17pm

    Who cares about any of this? You give a shit about the fact that she only has 1 summoner icon? Really sad. Cosmetics and balance are the only things to care about. Riot don't care about the lore, it's obvious. It was never good and it was never gonna improve. Christ this is pathetic.

  • Hautamaki
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:28pm

    high quality whining over a total non-issue. Cass is probably not even in the bottom half of champs in need of more love. Her balance is good, her gameplay patterns are clear and fair and fun, her visuals are good especially with the tail update, there are so many champions that have so many more severe problems than Cassopeia.

  • WackyJack3y
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 6:01pm

    Is this a joke?? Why is this post on the front page and actually relevant issues not?

  • sombervision
    -1 points Nov 22,2018, 3:57pm

    (at least she has a summoner icon)....cough... Heimer.

  • Frothar
    -1 points Nov 22,2018, 4:28pm

    so there are no problems at all apart from she hasnt got a good enough skin

  • heroicsej
    1 points Nov 22,2018, 5:49pm

    Yeah, unfortunately you havent changed at all snaketits. Just more complaining.

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    Hah whoa.

  • Red8787
    16 points Apr 01,2018, 4:16pm

    HELP 🐶 THIS 🐶 DOG 🐶 BARK 🐶 TO 🐶 WAKE 🐶 UP 🐶 MARC

  • justintoronto
    9 points Apr 01,2018, 2:37pm

    Only the head of Riot is left :O

  • MiningSpartan
    10 points Apr 01,2018, 6:18pm
  • PGORaidsSuck
    8 points Apr 01,2018, 4:18pm

    "oh hai marc"

  • Saiiken
    18 points Apr 01,2018, 2:16pm
  • ShadoHeart
    6 points Apr 01,2018, 2:37pm

    Marccc wake up marccc.

  • reVivexD
    3 points Apr 01,2018, 4:02pm

    Wake up Marc! Everybody's wiggling.

    Wake up Marc! We really need you.

    Wake up Marc! You're missing all the fun now.

    Wake up Marc before the day's through.

  • Panir0
    3 points Apr 01,2018, 2:18pm

    Legends Never Die! Wake up Lord Tryndamere!

  • SenatorJerkMeOff
    3 points Apr 01,2018, 2:45pm

    1 updoot = 1 MarcMerrillAwo

  • joserh94
    3 points Apr 01,2018, 2:52pm

    Guys, if we all repost the same comments every time, we'll all get double the karma

  • Custom_Game
    2 points Apr 01,2018, 2:15pm

    No

  • deleted
    2 points Apr 01,2018, 2:18pm

    [deleted]

  • Chubbichanga
    2 points Apr 01,2018, 3:54pm

    Zoe got him!!!

  • G-Swayze11
    2 points Apr 01,2018, 3:59pm

    MARC

  • extremely_gay
    2 points Apr 01,2018, 4:00pm

    But I don’t want to save league!!!

  • Kjottgutt
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 2:54pm

    Marc dreaming about Regi

  • David920
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 2:58pm

    Cat.

  • qwikskoper
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 2:58pm

    Cindermerrill

  • Spooky_Gangplank
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 3:05pm

    marc's dream

  • CeaRhan
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 3:06pm

    fuk u mark wake the hel up

  • xXdimmitsarasXx
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 3:30pm

    sleep tight marcer

  • LancaeronSq
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 3:36pm

    Guys, if we all repost the same comments every time, we'll all get double the karma

  • DianaIsMyWife
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 3:47pm

    sleep boyz

  • VeryMild
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 3:51pm

    hes about to get hit by paddlestar can someone pls shen ult mr merrill

  • Pblake99
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 3:57pm

    Let League die, it’s the only way we get our lives back

  • Hinyu
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 4:07pm

    Marc sure gained a lot of weight since last we saw him.

    Or:

    Assassination plot revealed. Riot employees collectively trying to topple Merill's guiding leadership by attempted crushing and suffocation under tons of blankets

  • Trender07
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 4:11pm

    w8 me up

  • Sora_Net
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 4:37pm

    Guys, if we all repost the same comments every time, we'll all get double the karma

  • Jaywoody21
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 4:46pm

    Maybe when he wakes up the jungle will be fixed

  • DimensiVigilante
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 4:48pm

    Marc Merill: I'm sleeping THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING

    Reddit: Shutup.

  • WingedBombs
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 4:55pm

    WAKE UP FISHY WAKE UP!

  • Equality-Slifer
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 5:05pm

    Wait, what if Coctopus actually never left Riot and it all was in preparation for that April Fools?

    Damn, that'd be the pinnacle of memeage.

  • Pwnage_Peanut
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 5:16pm

    Damn it Zoe!

  • orion0727
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 5:23pm

    Tryndamere is a false prophet.

    All Hail Ryze!

  • winglessangel31
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 5:38pm

    TIL Zoe hits bubble in real life

  • XDdravenXD
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 5:38pm

    The guy who was caught getting elo boosted is gonna save league? How ironic

  • SaltyMeth
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 5:45pm

    what if i want league to die?

  • Flight1ess
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 5:55pm

    WAKE UP MARC. WAKE UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP

  • daguava
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 5:59pm

    Ravioli ravioli wake up the Merrilloni

  • Sp33D97
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 6:00pm

    Oh hai

  • BricksquadLeader
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 6:05pm

    If Marc doesn’t wake up after 15 minutes we’re legally allowed to let league die

  • dequardo
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 6:48pm

    Guys, if we all repost the same comments every time, we'll all get double the karma

  • chimpanzee_simulator
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 6:51pm

    It’s not up to us, it’s up to our Chinese overlords at Tencent Games

  • VeigarMain3333
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 7:36pm

    Did my rp buy that pillow under his head

  • pouletcanard
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 8:43pm

    Guys, if we all repost the same comments every time, we'll all get double the karma

  • WarriorSnek
    0 points Apr 01,2018, 3:47pm

    ... -downvote-

  • BlackUpFreddy
    -7 points Apr 01,2018, 3:08pm

    ╭━━━━╮ This is Jeff. Help
    ╰┃ ┣▇━▇ Jeff take over
     ┃ ┃  ╰━▅╮ Reddit by posting
     ╰┳╯ ╰━━┳╯ him in 5 other
      ╰╮ ┳━━╯ threads or he
     ▕▔▋ ╰╮╭━╮ will never be a meme
    ╱▔╲▋╰━┻┻╮╲╱▔▔▔╲
    ▏  ▔▔▔▔▔▔▔  O O┃
    ╲╱▔╲▂▂▂▂╱▔╲▂▂▂╱
     ▏╳▕▇▇▕ ▏╳▕▇▇▕
     ╲▂╱╲▂╱ ╲▂╱╲▂╱

  • JokeSportGuy
    -3 points Apr 01,2018, 5:39pm

    This shit is not funny at all. This sub has turned into a epileptic cesspool for 13 year olds.

    Real good April fools guys.

  • kwekman
    -3 points Apr 01,2018, 3:59pm

    ╭━━━━╮ This is Jeff. Help
    ╰┃ ┣▇━▇ Jeff take over
     ┃ ┃  ╰━▅╮ Reddit by posting
     ╰┳╯ ╰━━┳╯ him in 5 other
      ╰╮ ┳━━╯ threads or he
     ▕▔▋ ╰╮╭━╮ will never be a meme
    ╱▔╲▋╰━┻┻╮╲╱▔▔▔╲
    ▏  ▔▔▔▔▔▔▔  O O┃
    ╲╱▔╲▂▂▂▂╱▔╲▂▂▂╱
     ▏╳▕▇▇▕ ▏╳▕▇▇▕
     ╲▂╱╲▂╱ ╲▂╱╲▂╱

COMMENTS

  • hoosakiwi
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 6:44pm

    IT FUCKING WORKED, YOU SHITPOSTING MEMELORDS! WE SAVED LEAGUE!

    WE DID IT REDDIT!

  • Cahootie
    437 points Apr 01,2018, 2:16pm

    hello marc dont sleep or else we weep

  • hey_its_griff
    343 points Apr 01,2018, 2:16pm

    /u/tryndamere is the real MVP for getting me this picture of him sleeping

  • Tryndamere
    330 points Apr 01,2018, 6:41pm

    yawn & stretch

  • Strategicfaceroll
    157 points Apr 01,2018, 2:27pm

    Didn't buy qss, smh

  • HarleyWorking
    97 points Apr 01,2018, 2:18pm

    Wake up, Marc! I do believe in shitposts, I do! I do!

  • XXShigaXX
    123 points Apr 01,2018, 2:16pm

    WAKE UP MARC!

  • nicostein
    49 points Apr 01,2018, 2:36pm

    But he looks so comfortable.

  • hoosakiwi
    37 points Apr 01,2018, 2:26pm

    MAAAAAAAAAAARCCCCCCCCCCC

  • Rawahy
    23 points Apr 01,2018, 2:34pm

    He can just ulti and survive though 0.0

  • dzareth
    14 points Apr 01,2018, 3:34pm

    Hah whoa.

  • Red8787
    16 points Apr 01,2018, 4:16pm

    HELP 🐶 THIS 🐶 DOG 🐶 BARK 🐶 TO 🐶 WAKE 🐶 UP 🐶 MARC

  • justintoronto
    9 points Apr 01,2018, 2:37pm

    Only the head of Riot is left :O

  • MiningSpartan
    10 points Apr 01,2018, 6:18pm
  • PGORaidsSuck
    8 points Apr 01,2018, 4:18pm

    "oh hai marc"

  • Saiiken
    18 points Apr 01,2018, 2:16pm
  • ShadoHeart
    6 points Apr 01,2018, 2:37pm

    Marccc wake up marccc.

  • reVivexD
    3 points Apr 01,2018, 4:02pm

    Wake up Marc! Everybody's wiggling.

    Wake up Marc! We really need you.

    Wake up Marc! You're missing all the fun now.

    Wake up Marc before the day's through.

  • Panir0
    3 points Apr 01,2018, 2:18pm

    Legends Never Die! Wake up Lord Tryndamere!

  • SenatorJerkMeOff
    3 points Apr 01,2018, 2:45pm

    1 updoot = 1 MarcMerrillAwo

  • joserh94
    3 points Apr 01,2018, 2:52pm

    Guys, if we all repost the same comments every time, we'll all get double the karma

  • Custom_Game
    2 points Apr 01,2018, 2:15pm

    No

  • deleted
    2 points Apr 01,2018, 2:18pm

    [deleted]

  • Chubbichanga
    2 points Apr 01,2018, 3:54pm

    Zoe got him!!!

  • G-Swayze11
    2 points Apr 01,2018, 3:59pm

    MARC

  • extremely_gay
    2 points Apr 01,2018, 4:00pm

    But I don’t want to save league!!!

  • Kjottgutt
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 2:54pm

    Marc dreaming about Regi

  • David920
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 2:58pm

    Cat.

  • qwikskoper
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 2:58pm

    Cindermerrill

  • Spooky_Gangplank
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 3:05pm

    marc's dream

  • CeaRhan
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 3:06pm

    fuk u mark wake the hel up

  • xXdimmitsarasXx
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 3:30pm

    sleep tight marcer

  • LancaeronSq
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 3:36pm

    Guys, if we all repost the same comments every time, we'll all get double the karma

  • DianaIsMyWife
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 3:47pm

    sleep boyz

  • VeryMild
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 3:51pm

    hes about to get hit by paddlestar can someone pls shen ult mr merrill

  • Pblake99
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 3:57pm

    Let League die, it’s the only way we get our lives back

  • Hinyu
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 4:07pm

    Marc sure gained a lot of weight since last we saw him.

    Or:

    Assassination plot revealed. Riot employees collectively trying to topple Merill's guiding leadership by attempted crushing and suffocation under tons of blankets

  • Trender07
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 4:11pm

    w8 me up

  • Sora_Net
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 4:37pm

    Guys, if we all repost the same comments every time, we'll all get double the karma

  • Jaywoody21
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 4:46pm

    Maybe when he wakes up the jungle will be fixed

  • DimensiVigilante
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 4:48pm

    Marc Merill: I'm sleeping THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING

    Reddit: Shutup.

  • WingedBombs
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 4:55pm

    WAKE UP FISHY WAKE UP!

  • Equality-Slifer
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 5:05pm

    Wait, what if Coctopus actually never left Riot and it all was in preparation for that April Fools?

    Damn, that'd be the pinnacle of memeage.

  • Pwnage_Peanut
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 5:16pm

    Damn it Zoe!

  • orion0727
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 5:23pm

    Tryndamere is a false prophet.

    All Hail Ryze!

  • winglessangel31
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 5:38pm

    TIL Zoe hits bubble in real life

  • XDdravenXD
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 5:38pm

    The guy who was caught getting elo boosted is gonna save league? How ironic

  • SaltyMeth
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 5:45pm

    what if i want league to die?

  • Flight1ess
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 5:55pm

    WAKE UP MARC. WAKE UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP

  • daguava
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 5:59pm

    Ravioli ravioli wake up the Merrilloni

  • Sp33D97
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 6:00pm

    Oh hai

  • BricksquadLeader
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 6:05pm

    If Marc doesn’t wake up after 15 minutes we’re legally allowed to let league die

  • dequardo
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 6:48pm

    Guys, if we all repost the same comments every time, we'll all get double the karma

  • chimpanzee_simulator
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 6:51pm

    It’s not up to us, it’s up to our Chinese overlords at Tencent Games

  • VeigarMain3333
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 7:36pm

    Did my rp buy that pillow under his head

  • pouletcanard
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 8:43pm

    Guys, if we all repost the same comments every time, we'll all get double the karma

  • WarriorSnek
    0 points Apr 01,2018, 3:47pm

    ... -downvote-

  • BlackUpFreddy
    -7 points Apr 01,2018, 3:08pm

    ╭━━━━╮ This is Jeff. Help
    ╰┃ ┣▇━▇ Jeff take over
     ┃ ┃  ╰━▅╮ Reddit by posting
     ╰┳╯ ╰━━┳╯ him in 5 other
      ╰╮ ┳━━╯ threads or he
     ▕▔▋ ╰╮╭━╮ will never be a meme
    ╱▔╲▋╰━┻┻╮╲╱▔▔▔╲
    ▏  ▔▔▔▔▔▔▔  O O┃
    ╲╱▔╲▂▂▂▂╱▔╲▂▂▂╱
     ▏╳▕▇▇▕ ▏╳▕▇▇▕
     ╲▂╱╲▂╱ ╲▂╱╲▂╱

  • JokeSportGuy
    -3 points Apr 01,2018, 5:39pm

    This shit is not funny at all. This sub has turned into a epileptic cesspool for 13 year olds.

    Real good April fools guys.

  • kwekman
    -3 points Apr 01,2018, 3:59pm

    ╭━━━━╮ This is Jeff. Help
    ╰┃ ┣▇━▇ Jeff take over
     ┃ ┃  ╰━▅╮ Reddit by posting
     ╰┳╯ ╰━━┳╯ him in 5 other
      ╰╮ ┳━━╯ threads or he
     ▕▔▋ ╰╮╭━╮ will never be a meme
    ╱▔╲▋╰━┻┻╮╲╱▔▔▔╲
    ▏  ▔▔▔▔▔▔▔  O O┃
    ╲╱▔╲▂▂▂▂╱▔╲▂▂▂╱
     ▏╳▕▇▇▕ ▏╳▕▇▇▕
     ╲▂╱╲▂╱ ╲▂╱╲▂╱

● ● ●

NA > EU: Upvote this so it’s the top image when you search NA > EU

RIP LoL 2009-2018?

COMMENTS

  • Panir0
    1 points Mar 31,2018, 11:33pm
  • ScriptedShyvana
    60 points Apr 01,2018, 12:08am

    WAKE UP AND SMELL THE OIL ( o_o)7

  • failworlds
    141 points Apr 01,2018, 12:21am

    HUNI CAN WIN EU AND KR BUT CAN'T BEAT NA. NA BEST REGION

  • BITCHES_DIG_KARMA
    94 points Mar 31,2018, 11:32pm

    EU WAKING UP ABOUT NOW

    DEFEND OUR REGION

  • amd098
    67 points Apr 01,2018, 12:14am

    EU can't win a world war without NA lul ggez region

  • gifv-bot
    4 points Mar 31,2018, 11:32pm

    GIFV link


    I am a bot. FAQ // code

  • maddkid53
    13 points Apr 01,2018, 12:29am

    Where's the April Fools joke though

  • ak0ran
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 3:01am

    Diamond 1 on NA = Bronze 5 on EUW

  • TheSinChao
    5 points Apr 01,2018, 12:18am

    ┌∩┐໒( . ͡° ͟ʖ ͡° . )७ 7

  • SneakySylveon
    2 points Apr 01,2018, 12:49am

    Kkona

  • Rohitt624
    2 points Apr 01,2018, 1:13am

    Needs more jpeg

  • Fluffcake
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 1:17am

    Clever april fools.

  • 2Dongers1Fiora
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 1:41am

    doot diddly donger cuckerino HAHA

  • MidAhriOrFeed
    6 points Apr 01,2018, 12:04am

    MURICA

  • rickywklam
    4 points Apr 01,2018, 12:55am

    GENERAL QTPIE WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

  • Serithus
    4 points Mar 31,2018, 11:32pm

    EU LUL

  • Faustias
    3 points Apr 01,2018, 1:06am

    quote me on thos but EU is trash

  • Mistersunnyd
    2 points Apr 01,2018, 12:10am

    I will always upvote the admiral

  • B93RN
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 2:24am

    Well i actually think FNC looks stronger than any NA team atm.

  • Daniero1994
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 12:12am
  • UltraGaren
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 1:55am

    It looks like I’ll have to summon the ancient Huezilla

  • Takamasa1
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 2:26am

    It is currently the fifth spot on google images search. GG

  • Syuv
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 2:45am

    Just woke up and needeed 10 minutes to understand what was going on, well played North American friends, well played !

  • SmoothFred
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 2:48am

    I kekked

  • genjimaincx
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 2:50am

    Ru issa joke

  • FireIce31
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 2:55am

    dank

  • Mr_Tangysauce
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 12:00am

    delet

  • turbo566
    -1 points Mar 31,2018, 11:35pm

    EU SEASON 1 CHAMPS BAYBEE

  • 7medo7
    0 points Mar 31,2018, 11:32pm

    ez clap

  • 7medo7
    0 points Mar 31,2018, 11:34pm

    wheres my boy chapanya at?

  • r_redmon
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 1:34am

    if EU is worse, then how come NA keeps doing all it can to steal EU players??

  • FeelsGoodMan243
    -1 points Apr 01,2018, 12:17am

    KOREA>WEST OMEGALUL

  • Neoticus
    -1 points Apr 01,2018, 12:44am

    LCK viewership so small, EU higher than LCK but less than NA, EU 2nd best region confirmed

  • LozAAAAA
    -1 points Apr 01,2018, 1:14am

    Its kinda sad that this is only relevant at RR and April Fools day, I guess the latter came faster this year.

  • lazyfisher
    0 points Apr 01,2018, 12:42am

    xDDDDDDDDDD

  • Eupex
    -2 points Apr 01,2018, 12:43am

    ??? Using a time were most of the EU Reddit users are asleep, NA Mods backstabbing us again!

  • SquirrellyOtter
    -1 points Apr 01,2018, 12:35am

    ngl there was a period where I was sure Dongsquad was Imaqtpie's reddit account.

  • deleted
    -7 points Apr 01,2018, 12:16am

    [deleted]

COMMENTS

  • Panir0
    1 points Mar 31,2018, 11:33pm
  • ScriptedShyvana
    60 points Apr 01,2018, 12:08am

    WAKE UP AND SMELL THE OIL ( o_o)7

  • failworlds
    141 points Apr 01,2018, 12:21am

    HUNI CAN WIN EU AND KR BUT CAN'T BEAT NA. NA BEST REGION

  • greatness101
    178 points Apr 01,2018, 12:12am

    I thought these were supposed to be jokes, not stating facts. Kappa

  • BITCHES_DIG_KARMA
    94 points Mar 31,2018, 11:32pm

    EU WAKING UP ABOUT NOW

    DEFEND OUR REGION

  • amd098
    67 points Apr 01,2018, 12:14am

    EU can't win a world war without NA lul ggez region

  • gifv-bot
    4 points Mar 31,2018, 11:32pm

    GIFV link


    I am a bot. FAQ // code

  • maddkid53
    13 points Apr 01,2018, 12:29am

    Where's the April Fools joke though

  • ak0ran
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 3:01am

    Diamond 1 on NA = Bronze 5 on EUW

  • TheSinChao
    5 points Apr 01,2018, 12:18am

    ┌∩┐໒( . ͡° ͟ʖ ͡° . )७ 7

  • SneakySylveon
    2 points Apr 01,2018, 12:49am

    Kkona

  • Rohitt624
    2 points Apr 01,2018, 1:13am

    Needs more jpeg

  • Fluffcake
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 1:17am

    Clever april fools.

  • 2Dongers1Fiora
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 1:41am

    doot diddly donger cuckerino HAHA

  • MidAhriOrFeed
    6 points Apr 01,2018, 12:04am

    MURICA

  • rickywklam
    4 points Apr 01,2018, 12:55am

    GENERAL QTPIE WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

  • Serithus
    4 points Mar 31,2018, 11:32pm

    EU LUL

  • Faustias
    3 points Apr 01,2018, 1:06am

    quote me on thos but EU is trash

  • Mistersunnyd
    2 points Apr 01,2018, 12:10am

    I will always upvote the admiral

  • B93RN
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 2:24am

    Well i actually think FNC looks stronger than any NA team atm.

  • Daniero1994
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 12:12am
  • UltraGaren
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 1:55am

    It looks like I’ll have to summon the ancient Huezilla

  • Takamasa1
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 2:26am

    It is currently the fifth spot on google images search. GG

  • Syuv
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 2:45am

    Just woke up and needeed 10 minutes to understand what was going on, well played North American friends, well played !

  • SmoothFred
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 2:48am

    I kekked

  • genjimaincx
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 2:50am

    Ru issa joke

  • FireIce31
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 2:55am

    dank

  • Mr_Tangysauce
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 12:00am

    delet

  • turbo566
    -1 points Mar 31,2018, 11:35pm

    EU SEASON 1 CHAMPS BAYBEE

  • 7medo7
    0 points Mar 31,2018, 11:32pm

    ez clap

  • 7medo7
    0 points Mar 31,2018, 11:34pm

    wheres my boy chapanya at?

  • r_redmon
    1 points Apr 01,2018, 1:34am

    if EU is worse, then how come NA keeps doing all it can to steal EU players??

  • FeelsGoodMan243
    -1 points Apr 01,2018, 12:17am

    KOREA>WEST OMEGALUL

  • Neoticus
    -1 points Apr 01,2018, 12:44am

    LCK viewership so small, EU higher than LCK but less than NA, EU 2nd best region confirmed

  • LozAAAAA
    -1 points Apr 01,2018, 1:14am

    Its kinda sad that this is only relevant at RR and April Fools day, I guess the latter came faster this year.

  • lazyfisher
    0 points Apr 01,2018, 12:42am

    xDDDDDDDDDD

  • Eupex
    -2 points Apr 01,2018, 12:43am

    ??? Using a time were most of the EU Reddit users are asleep, NA Mods backstabbing us again!

  • SquirrellyOtter
    -1 points Apr 01,2018, 12:35am

    ngl there was a period where I was sure Dongsquad was Imaqtpie's reddit account.

  • deleted
    -7 points Apr 01,2018, 12:16am

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Warding Nashor

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Warding Scheme [IMG]

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  • Nigguhraeb
    220 points Feb 19,2018, 9:24pm

    This is super helpful, but as a suppletory tip, I'd recommend being unpredictable with your wards. Almost all the places listed are super common to sweep, and sometimes if you get creative you can get super crucial wards that people miss. This is especially the case around baron/dragon.

  • schmanthony
    35 points Feb 19,2018, 9:58pm

    What does Non Preferent mean?

  • 2Tablez
    15 points Feb 19,2018, 10:09pm

    Missing two super important ones between the mid turrets. But pretty nice setup very clean looking.

  • gcJUMBO
    5 points Feb 19,2018, 11:11pm

    Great visual, but it's quite inconsistent in terms of naming schema.

  • EBulvid
    1 points Feb 20,2018, 12:13am

    Why is one ward in Spanish Estándard

  • iTC_One
    7 points Feb 19,2018, 9:04pm

    Thanks! As a support main, seeing this picture will really help me improve vision control for my team and be able to react proactively to multiple scenarios.

  • -Gaka-
    1 points Feb 20,2018, 12:01am

    No Krug Bush ward? Red side Blue Buff/Gromp ward is also very common.

  • Helen_Kellerz
    1 points Feb 19,2018, 11:57pm

    Great job on this!

  • sitwm
    1 points Feb 20,2018, 12:15am

    No wards on mid lane in between jungle entrances? Okay..

  • mydreamsaredemons
    1 points Feb 20,2018, 12:15am

    This is extremely useful and I can't wait to see what the next renditions look like

  • vultCtrlDefeat
    1 points Feb 20,2018, 12:25am

    You guys might want to look up the word suppletory. It means the opposite of what you're using it for on your graph. I'm assuming the word you're going for is supplementary.

  • osgili4th
    1 points Feb 19,2018, 9:51pm

    Really useful information, I wish my teammates looks the minimap to make this efective....

  • Yop_BombNA
    1 points Feb 19,2018, 10:12pm

    What is a control/pink ward - every teammate ever. I’m plat :(

  • TheDarkRobotix
    1 points Feb 19,2018, 11:28pm

    Whats the pushing ward?

  • hardhit32
    1 points Feb 19,2018, 11:33pm

    I noticed the wording on the Red Side standard ward in mid. Gave me a good chuckle.

  • Mulonda
    1 points Feb 19,2018, 11:39pm

    Control Ward not Pink ward, even tho i WOULD LOVE TO HAVE PINK WARDS BACK, fuck kha and fuck Vayne

  • r_xy
    1 points Feb 19,2018, 11:49pm

    seems kinda outdated. blastcones arent taken into account at all and the "standart wards" in the sidelane river brushes are not far out enough to spot ganks

  • LoveBeingAlone
    1 points Feb 19,2018, 11:53pm

    what about the blue buff ward? its everyones favourite place to have a sniff

  • zombietank38
    1 points Feb 20,2018, 12:14am

    The brush called Great Vision for Top and Bot, and the brush between Wolves and mid tier 1 turret and superb Control Ward spots

  • B-ryye
    1 points Feb 20,2018, 12:22am

    You're missing the ward on the other side of blue buff that can see both sides

  • NeverTopComment
    1 points Feb 20,2018, 12:22am

    League of wards.

  • probdontcare
    1 points Feb 20,2018, 12:27am

    Totally unrelated but just a new viewer wanting to know how hard it is to steal a baron and why is it important? Saw meteos do it and the caster had a nice reaction so just asking