the TRUTH jumped out
I still take this over a 300 armor and mr full tank that outdamages a lot of the other junglers in 1v1's that she was before her nerfs
Upvoted as a once Sejuani player. She was fun before the rework. Her clear speed kinda sucks now compared to alot of other junglers now. Her ganking is still really good but as the game goes on her team fighting is much worse compared to before since her ult is a single target stun with a slow that doesn’t last very long.
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I think your summed up her problems really well. I'm really glad you made this, maybe it'll help fuel her changes to come sooner. I enjoyed both versions of sej but the constant nerfs have just made her not fun to play.
P.S. sej skin pleaseedit: spelling
dafuq is this layout?
Tbh This post had to come. :/
I agree that she has problems currently, but I also don't think pre-rework Sejuani was as great of a champion as you seem to make her out to be, because of how much of her power budget was put into her insanely strong ult (like you mentioned yourself). A nearly undodgable ranged AOE stun was way too powerful to ever give all of her other abilities enough power to appreciate them.
Sejuani nowadays is more like "I spam all my abilities. I freeze one person, deal some damage. Now what?"
Basically any champion's playstyle can be described as "I use abilities, CC people and deal damage", so this isn't really valid criticism.
Seeing this post I realize:
There are too many champs in league of legends. To keep the game healthy, they should release no more than 1 or 2 champs a year.
Already guess I learn maths wrongly. 2, 3, 4, 1 & 5.
The last post said Udyr has gone the longest without a skin. Y’all need to get your facts straight!
I might be wrong about this, but I don't think so. Old Sej had the broken horn on her helm on the same side as where she carries her flail. The update messed this up.
Thanks for this, Sejuani needs to be addressed, the nerfs are really such bullshit
Sejuani used to be my favourite champion before her 2017 rework. When she was released, she was underplayed but I loved playing her. Her first rework made me feel a little weird at first, but she was still pretty similar and I still enjoyed playing her.
Her 2017 rework... Just why.... I've always thought that these drastic reworks on champions (like Sejuani, Akali) are so disrespectful to the players who enjoyed playing their pre-rework versions. If Riot really wanted a specific kit, they should've created a new champion instead rather than completely destroying and changing an already established champion. Sejuani is the biggest victim of this.
Am I the only one who can’t really read it on mobile?
the only reason i don't like this post is because the gold color is too dark on a black background
Stop fucking making this posts... it's the same complaints every post. "Waaaa I don't have a skin Waaa I got no emotes" number 4 is just nit picking and number 3 doesn't really matter. Who cares if she isn't picked at worlds.
Now these are just getting desperate. I one tricked Sej when she was op for over 300 games and went up 9 divisions. Still after the nerfs and a new season I still had no issue with getting a 58% winrate over 180 games.
If you know how to play her, she's still dominant in solo que due to her cc and clear speed.
Oh my god. Thank you so much. Sejuani is in such a terrible spot right now I don't even dare to play her. And riot hasn't done ANYTHING to even try and fix her, which is the worst part.
Fun fact: Shaco and his clone can proc relic shield even if they are the only two in lane.
Shaco is weird man.
Man, imagine how big the Mordekaiser one would be.
Lol. I want a whole series like this.
A morderkaiser one of these would be like 15 pages long
Shaco Rework: Stealth too good, downgrade it
Akali Rework: Stealth too good? lets make it better
Main problem with Shaco: his kit is freaking annoying to play against and has very little counterplay when he's fed enough to one shot.
That Masked Shaco face.
So why are You not making questionable shaco/soraka content?
It's really depressing seeing Riot completely ignore these champions. I don't main these unloved champions but you guys must feel like the unloved childs in a family lol
The real problem is that there are two step “3”
More accurate criticism and comes off as less entitled. Hope this gets as much support as the cass one.
Lol this format
Despite all this, Shaco is still the best solo queue jungler.
I think Riot really doesn't want to update Shaco because they're so afraid they'll mess him up and they're fully aware that's a possibility
Could also be that they have literally no idea how to modernize him and keep his identity idk
I love playing Zyra into Shaco because I can break a box by spawning a plant right on top. 2ez
Let's be real, Shaco is a crappy remnant of a bygone era... The fact that they don't care to VGU him is sad.
Is this a very high effort meme now?
But he gets a new run animation tho
The only issue with shaco is he can one shot every fucking carry without beeing seen
Shaco's just a joke.
ill meet you halfway let's delete him from the game
Short version: he exists.
'' My shaco boxes have a counter. Pls make it like in season 6 so they have no counter''
Srsly. Shaco is the least interactive champ to play against and you want to buff him?
Some shaco god pls do another one of this with fixed ability section.
i feel bad cause the entire identity of shaco is has been stolen by neeko
you would be hallucinating if you think riot will fix anything about shaco , maybe nerf here buff there and they would call if an update
Pretty format and I agree with most of it but I feel like it’s missing a couple of issues that Shaco mains complain about:
1) Almost all of Shaco’s damage is from items being strong like Duskblade. His E does like 5 damage so he’s an assassin that’s literally almost only autos. Some people still think Shaco is an early game jungler but he is moreso a scaling champion now which is pretty weird, although some people like that.
2) His early game Q is hot garbage - it’s like, 1.5s early game? And the enemy can see the orange smoke.
3) Farm the whole game just to get shit on by Ninja Timbs
4) I actually think the purple Shaco skin splash is really sick (but misleading cause it’s bad in-game), and workshop splash is cool. Other two could use some work though.
5) Ult not targeting inhib is annoying, maybe not just a Shaco thing though (ex. happens w/ annie r). I can’t remember if inhibs trigger boxes
6) It’s been a while and idk if you still can, but you used to be able to recall in stealth by pressing Q and B at the same time and it wouldn’t cancel
Literally ripped off the cassiopeia one and now other people are going to do the same for their champion and then Riot will consider all of you meme'ing. GREAT!
An infographic? wtf I have to fix Shaco now! - LoL programmer
pls do problems with vayne
why this is so funny to read?
why does no one play ap shaco anymore did I miss anything? granted I havent played in a while but is there a reason or it lost its popularity?
wtf. didnt even notice this. i wont ever complain about rengar not getting a skin (mecha doesnt count utter trash) again
So what you're saying is you want him fixed and nerfed? Considering he is viable enough to get challenger with despite the bugs and QOL problems would suggest he would be OP if fixed.
idk i kinda like the old splash arts. Its a different art style..doesn't have to be super hd crap like everything else.
Why do people hate shitty splash art? It is beautiful
Would be nice if the boxes disappeared quickly if Shaco is not nearby. The same problem with mushrooms, you're not really interacting with the champion and still getting cc'd and damaged.
Careful man, us eve mains complained and look what happened to our mains.
They gave neeko all the cool illusion abilities. Idk what they will do with shaco now outside of just making him a kill-crazy clown. That would be so much wasted potential when the entire jester concept can have so much more than a psycho. I slowly grow closer to believing shaco may be the first champ removed from the game if riot were to ever remove anyone. He's dated and riot probably doesn't want to have to deal with another illusionist champ when leblanc failed and neeko around the corner. I wish they didn't release neeko and just found ways to merge her kit with shaco. Would be so much cooler.
Yeah, you right.
That Masked Shaco face gives me nightmare
Do one with Taliyah now
Another thing, Shaco's clone is given away if there is a Garen in the game and Shaco is the villain.
Someone do teemo
PLEASE WE NEED ONE ABOUT CURRENT KAYLE I DONT CARE THAT HER REWORK IS NEXT YEAR
Yeah I wouldn't make the abilities have different smokes. It sounds cool but the idea is that when you see the smoke you don't really know what he did and that's part of the trickery. His kit right now limits that uncertainty to literally half a second because he usually does something within that second, but if they update his kit to be more interesting or tricky, then having the single smoke effect would be more ideal for being tricky.
After maining Shaco for some time now The biggest problems I see with shaco is . The new passive system for his Q and E sucks and doesnt have the same affect as the old one. Pressing ult to dodge damage like zeds ult or a turret but it still kills you. The boxes im fine with as they are simply meant to give shaco a buffer to back stab. However isn't useful anymore because well, back stab sucks. In other words they just want to nerf him o the ground and send him to the grave with out upsetting the mains but guess what....im still very much upset.
I was afraid this was going to include stupid arguments like "Shaco has no emotes/Icons", so im glad it was mostly about Shaco's lack of new skins and proper splasharts and his plenty of bugs/problems.
Still, I see no problem with Jack in the boxes being activated by Duskblade and vision, i mean, it has to have some form of counterplay.
This must’ve taken some time to do. This is a useful info graphic, good job
Do one for Kassadin please, last skin of his was years ago
Just revert him to his original state...along with all items...and game mechanics....argh, fuck, i just want season 1 or earlier back.
Can someone make a "problems with viktor"? Pretty fitting now with the broken viktop shit and the weak af state of viktor mid
While I agree Shaco needs a rework, the whole skin thing doesn’t matter to the overall gameplay. I picked Shaco up when I was learning the game, just after his Wild Card skin release, and I’m in no way denying that the Demon Jester needs a new skin, but when you’re bringing up fundamental problems with the champion and gameplay around them, listing the skin options first seems kinda vapid.
I think there are a lot of things in this that are not accurate/mis-represents Shaco. For example, the smoke being the same for all abilities plays into his trickster kit. The intent is so that the enemy doesn't know what you're using....
I don't disagree, but imho his biggest problem is his horrible E
I think Riot can possibly make him more box centralized. One shotting everyone with duskblade isn't the most fun thing to do and there's no difference from a Rengar or Kha'zix. However boxes arent pure one shotting and can enhance his assassin potential without a 100-0 with duskblade. It would be hard to implement as they would need to make him less reliant on runes and items. AP builds where you trick them into box traps were so much fun but AP scalings aren't that great rn and boxes get one-shot in team fights/take too long to arm. Also building mpen is useless because they changed E to do physical damage although it has AP scaling
I have like .6 million mastery on shaco. I've been yearning for a shaco skin ever since i started playing league, which never happened. But aside from this i think shaco has been pretty good especially since the s7 rework.
someone make problems with adc please... i just cant... lmao
Why would Riot want to change his walking animation? It’s like my absolute favorite part of his visuals. Am I the only one?
Problems with this post
Shaco definitely needs a visual update and a couple a buffs while we're at it to make him as popular as possible. I need a reason to feel slightly less guilty banning him every game.
Please make a wukong one
This is a shittier copy of "problems with Cassiopeia" to rant about Shaco. It's way more opinionated and the bad grammar makes it seem less professional and uninteresting.Quality is an amazing thing.
why are these gaining traction. this and the one yesterday both stupid. if you complain about visuals you are small-brained "My champion hasn't gotten a skin in like 3 years!" wow omg theres like 150 champs in the game and we know they don't pick who gets a skin based on who "needs" a skin and based on the synergy they often promote between skinlines, i don't think that they necessarily should
This is so poorly written that my head hurts when i read it
So the issue here is while some of the suggestions on the cass one were bad, they still made an attempt to suggest how riot MIGHT improve the complaints with a decent amount of sourcing. Also im not a Shaco main (though I've played him many times to git gud tl;dr: failed) and if you wanted a big fix in the graphic you should explain how it seems to work. Also the cass one had a nice summary section at the end to reiterate all the complaints (like a tl;dr) which could help convey passion about these complaints. As it is now it seems like a half assed attempt at karma farming because of the cass post.
Idk try not to take my critique too harshly, i know you care about this issue (otherwise why put the effort in?) But the goal here should be to galvanize the devs into acting through passionate rhetoric, not meekly taking a few jabs at the vfx, pointing out a couple bugs and wierd on hit interactions (seriously why can't the box do rylais? That's a 2400 gp investment for what a slow on e which already has one and the shaclone?).
Tl;dr: this layout is alright, but if you want people to take it seriously convey your passion.
shaco is one big problem
MAKE SHACO GREAT AGAIN!
I main both Cass and Shaco and i feel this.
Riot have put Shaco in the dumpster on purpose, it's sad.
am I the only one that is happy that shaco is shit and isnt meta anymore
fuck that champ
I hope shaco is never fotm again
every shaco on my team fed and was shit.. every shaco on the other team got fed off my teammates inability to adapt their play styles around him
Problem with Shaco is that he exists. Just remove this abomination from the game.
Problems with Shaco - He still exists
There I summed up all problems with Shaco :)
Leave my Shaco alone please and ty. Visual updates sure go for it.
2.) was the worst point, its intended that all the smoke bombs are the same color so you can use a box in fog of war to bait your enemy into thinking you're about to back stab them... etc.
I've seen no mention of Pink Ward in this thread yet, and I feel like his opinion on this would be very helpful, since he is one of THE Shaco players, after all.
The only problen here is why are u playing Shaco?
shaco is cancer for any adc, fk this champ
TL/DR; Shaco Exists. Fix that please Riot.
Problems with Shaco: He exist
why does this always happen, someone sees someone make an original fucking post then some guy has to go out of his way to make sure he gets his own version
Shaco players should be banned for feeding anyways
credit for inspiring goes to /u/Canastus he was also fine with me making my own version of this so no flame please
Whats up with her lore? Wasnt she the older sister of Katarina that got gifted or something?
Does bard have an emote? I know he has an icon but I don't think I've ever seen a bard emote.
i like the passion
I....I have a nsfw smutfic of her following the incident in the tomb if you are that desperate.
A nice post, but I disagree with a lot of it. Granted, I am not a Cassiopeia main, but I have been playing her a bit lately, and I really like her passive for one. I realize, as someone else said here, that building early pen on her with Sorcerer's would be completely broken.
The Eternum skin is great, although I agree the splash could have been better chosen. And honestly I don't give a damn about emotes or icons (see my flair).
This is nicely done, but I don't agree with a majority of the content.
Visually she looks fine. She even got a tail update recently. There is no reason to give her a massive overhaul.
The passive is fine. Her abilities are scaled (ha) behind the idea that she would likely build sorcerer shoes. Look at the ratios and base damage amounts. They're bonkers. Getting sorcerer shoes on that character would be broken.
Now, the biggest issue is you complaining about sex appeal. Sure, the non-snakey Cass might have been foxy. But you're actually complaining about the sex appeal of a fucking Gorgon. As if Cass wakes up and puts on her makeup for everyone to see. She turns people to stone man. I don't think she even showers. She is in absolutely no way a seductress (see Evelynn) and I don't understand how you even contrived that.
Also I'm a Fiddle main and I don't have an icon or an emote. It's not a big deal.
hey i know you, you draw questionable cassiopeia art
I think the headpiece looks awful in the splash and in game.. The shape of the one from the s1 model works better imo.
What about Udyr?
add the splashart don't represent the skins (siren is awful af)
Those "official development sketches" are not a different take on the design, they're called "Thumbnails" and they're used to explore composition and value for the final splash art.
See how the final Splash Art became pretty similar to "5"? That's because that's the one they picked. If they had picked any of the other ones instead, the design and look would have been the same as it is now.
I don't think I have ever read anything about Cassiopeia being a seductress. Isn't she a Noxian diplomat or something?I just read her story, and nowhere in it does it emphasize that she is a seductress, or anyting like that. I think you might just be thirsty
Here's her short story by the way. It's slightly more than 6 lines.https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/cassiopeia-color-story/
Many champions haven't received emotes based on them. This goes for icons as well, I don't think I've ever seen a Viktor icon for example.
I don't know why you're ragging on the quality of the chromas. It's something. I don't know what makes these chromas worse than others.
And Cassiopeia's model is highly superior to that of many other champs. More fluid animations and high poly counts. Udyr, Corki, Cho'gath for example have it far worse.
/cries in Ivern/
Make one for Udyr.
There are other champions with the same issues or worse.
where'd you get the concept art for the skin from? they look pretty awesome
shaco mains feel ur pain
Rise up, cass otps. Someone has done it.
I hate that i cannot buy boots. trading 15 mpen (best mage stat in the game) against 20 movespeed (at lvl 18), doesnt feel nice. (335 ms -> 228 ms nerf) (72 ms from passive - 45 boots - 7 ms)= 20
Id rather be able to get boots and Mp, which is a huge mobility and dmg spike.I think id prefere her old passive (deadly cadance) or honestly no passive at all would be better (and give her 7 ms back).
+1 mpen per lvl would be such a bad passive tho. You want to rush flat Mp early.. Not have +18 @18.
really agree with the skin + bio part. its unbearable and not up to our standarts. loved the old bio and her history with shurima, sivir etc. But riot seems to mess up all my fav bios nowadays (ahri, cass, annie (cinematic was dope but meh bio))
model+passive i cannot really agree, but that subjective and not a big deal
I just started picking her up. What a coincidence.
Hey, at least your champ has a skin that iant a joke, meanwhile ivern player here.. but then agin, the champ is a joke by himself
Has someone seen a Corki main complaining about his current state, every time he’s meta they nerf him hard, the lack of an icon, the poor lore around him, his model? It’s easy to say rito pls invest in my main but people don’t stop for a moment and think that if riot does it for them they should do it for everyone and that’s not gonna happen…
Give her an actual passive and a replacements for boots to buy, like special charm items that gove her stats (doesn’t have to be MS but at least something to make up for her MPen issues due to being unable to buy Sorc Shoes).
There are plenty of other champs that need attention over Cass, just saying.
I agree w the thing about models and splash arts being horrible.
Oh and the lore shit. Damn, that one is sad.
In the case of lore, she has been included in the Varus story. Of course not by name. But her snake curse might have something to do with Darkin now.
I'd love to work in the lore department of riot seems like so much fun.
I need this passion but directed at Wukong
Cass used to be my favourite champion, would totally one trick back then. Give her mana cost reduction stack passive back, she was such a bully. Fuck I miss her now!
I can't for the life of me remember where I saw it, I just spent 30 minutes looking for it.
But I've seen Cass as some sort of cartoony emote. At first I thought it the sticker pack they made for Facebook, then I checked if it was a fan made one for the misunderstood emotions contest thing.
I can't find it... anyway. I've seen it multiple times, very vividly, no idea where.
Also her base model, IMO holds up very well. I didn't even realize it was that old honestly.
But per passive is dumb. So many champions have two passive and I think she does deserve one. Like maybe a stacking effects like bleeds and dots(I.E. Darius/Twitch) where if she hits you enough times with poisons a potent % max HP one will tick and maybe a big but short MS bonus will go?
Idk, I'm just spit balling.
Legit the 5th concept art for eternum cass is actually [[vraska's contempt]] u/mtgcardfetcher
Not a Cassio main by any degree, but I love to play mid. In reference to your point about the lackluster passive, I hate that it locks Cassio out from a unique set of items that are impactful because she can't buy boots. I enjoy how diverse and adaptive boot choices can be, so not being able to get tenacity against other CC heavy mages via Merc Treads or Tabis to block out a ton of autos when their ADs are fed feels suuuper bad. Minimally, they need to give her a way to get these passives that are otherwise available to other champs.
I was on your side until you called Rammus "simple". HERESY!
Yup, all this makes sense.
Picking Cass is putting up a giant flag that says "Camp Me!". I pick her if I'm playing with friends that are better than me, because I'm a good Cass and can hold lane vs better players. If I'm needed to carry the team, I'd never pick her, because she takes way too long to get going and is so easy to set behind.
As a Cass player, she needs attention. Also, Tahm Kench needs an actual skin.
Holy shit, it's CASSBUFFSWHEN anon.
Sorcs shoes are easily the strongest item in the entire game. Mpen is the most efficient stat for fighting champions that dont build MR, and sorcs shoes is pure mpen tied to MS instead of having to buy a useless morellonomicon or oblivion orb just for the pen. (Why tie a niche passive to a super important stat that every mage wants?)
Cass needs access to more than 15 mpen.
This is great! Please make one for illaoi. <3
OP have you ever considered an Evelynn revert?
Upvote for the effort. Something refreshing could be done for the snake.. especially lore wise [I do like to read lore.. so yeah xd]. Gameplay wise, no idea. Her model looks fine to me, passive is kinda.. meh.. and in-game she seems strong enough haha
All are fair and valid criticisms, I believe the problem comes as Cass was introduced as League was exploding and they were designing fewer champs with the skills and abilities being the main focus instead designing a theme (ie Cass is "Snake Lady", Olaf is "Viking"). This leads to the problem of having uninspired characters who just fit a certain theme, and their skills are an expression of that theme.
I believe this has shifted in recent years. Take Zoe (I know, maybe not balanced but please bear with me) her entire kit is designed around her Q with every ability having a purpose in aiding the damage/ reliability of Q.
Feels too harsh, but most of this is quite spot on... Though with so many Champs, ultimately there are always going to be overlooked ones due to being "just kinda O.K.".
They definitely failed in the sex appeal regard, she is supposed to be more sexual due to her character... Ironically, given what they do with every other female Champ.
meanwhile i'm sitting in a corner crying as an udyr main. the only "thing" udyr has is an upgrade to something that could be a basemodel for a new released champ which costs 20 bucks
Shaco Mains chortle in the shadows
cries in Pantheon
A lot of this is true for other old champions as well, especially the ones that Riot doesn't like such as Pantheon, Skarner and Volibear. They are very clear about their favourites (I'm honestly really surprised Ahri doesn't have a 3k RP skin yet) and if your favourite champ isn't one of them, you have to hope they will allow them to be viable for a while before they get nerfed.
Her passive reminds me of another game. In Pokémon, Regigigas has an ability called Slow Start which halves the Attack and Speed stats for 5 terms. Neither passive/ability actually help the character and at least in Regigigas case it is to nerf a character that might be too strong otherwise.
This is well made bait
Tottaly agree man, I love Cassio, one of the hardest champs in the game and pretty fun to watch/play too, she should def get some work done on her! Please ritoo
The problem with Cassiopeia's passive isn't really that she can't buy early MPen or get that rush of MS. It's that for the sake of having good damage, they completely fucked her mobility over.
Karthus has 335 base speed. Vel'Koz has 340 base speed. Syndra has 330 base speed. Pantheon has 355 base speed. Cassiopeia has 328. To reach Syndra's speed with brown boots, she needs to be level 7. Catching up to Vel'Koz with Sorc shoes would actually require her to be level 17. So basically, to catch anyone ever, she is required to land her Q or W (W having a base CD of 18 seconds initially).
Honestly, "dealing a lot of damage" isn't an identity. Not when ADCs do it all the time, and Ryze and Taliyah both do it pretty much as well but without sacrificing anything else for it. Cassiopeia needs a rework.
I'm amazed by this because not only did this person use facts and imagery but you can feel the passion and love that this person has for this champion.
I've been playing League Of Legends since 2013 and I remembered how in the forums/boards people were angry with her changes. To the point where on her second change during the mage update, a rioter asked the community for suggestions/help on what would satisfy them.
It's actually really sad to read this because it's so true. I feel bad for the champion itself.
PS: THAT FIRST ETERNUM SKETCH IS SICK AND SEXY AF!
I don't agree on the passive, but with the rest I agree. I think the passive isn't bad and metas are always changing and Riot always drops more gold into the game.
But lore wise, isnt cassiopeia katarina's sister, sent to grab some shuriman artefacts in azir's tomb, only to end up turn into a snake by a magical trap ?
Tons of champs have issues atm imo.
Just wanted to share my thoughts on this champion in a clear way, I hope it's easy to comprehend.
Non-Cass main problem with CassiOPeia:
Why does a teamfight based mage get to 1v1 nearly every mid laner in the game? Why does a lategame scaling champion (that can even reach 6 items in a giga lategame match) also get to be a lane bully?
CassiOPeia was better when she would be massively punished for missing her E on a poisoned target.
Great infographic, love the presentation. I disagree with some points such as Cass not having more icons or emotes; lots of champions don't and that's not a critical issue imo. That said she deserves a cool new skin and of course her passive is very sad by modern design standards.
fully agree on the passive. such a fucking stupid gimmick.
Great job. Even though people may disagree with the content, the bright side is this gets the conversation rolling
These aren't really problems
i like the way you address the problems. nice format!
It also can be said she received nerfs for S9 because Celerity, Taste of Blood, and Ravenous Hunter all got nerfed this patch. Can barely even play her as a counter pick even ://
sorry to tell you but riot don't play skilled champs so they don't see the problem
play akali if you are not happy
In short: Cassmains waited half a decade for a random 1350 RP skin
As someone who plays some pretty unpopular champions I know how that feels. Especially with Mecha ASol recently, it's like Riot throws a dart and picks a random skin theme. At least that one has a good splash.
Yorick players asked Riot to lower the brightness of his model and Riot ignored them. When Xayah and Rakan Valentine skins were poorly received, everyone hold up.
It's pretty clear that Riot only cares about their lucrative products. Unpopular champions have 0 emotes despite them being about the laziest product Riot can make.
Well ty for the good laugh mate
There are more birdio emotes/icons than galio icons.
As a main of both champs, at least galio has dope skins tho
now make a graphic for all the other champions.
Ugh I hope they keep her loading screens even though they will eventually replace them. I love the style of art they’re in of almost looking like a painting.
"Serpintine Grace: Literally a meme and nothing else... locks out from obtaining early mpen."Not sure if troll or doesn't know how valuable free movespeed is and hasn't seen Oblivion Orb yet..
Couldn't this argument be made for like a quarter of the roster? Zilean, Malphite, Volibear, Corki, etc.
Most champs would kill to have a skin as good as eternum
Cass is a great champ with high skill ceiling and high reward. The only problem with her is her potential for abuse by scripters.
Never expected to see complaints about a character not having enough sex appeal...
Cassio DOES have an emote, the crying one.
I disagree with the passive criticism. There is value in not having to have boots in your inventory even when you aren't at six items. It allows you more room for consumables or component items.
This is even worse on Shaco. He doesn't even appear in cinematics.
Compared to what Skarner got over last 5 years, Cass main should be thankful for what they have.
Want to talk about outdated splash art have you seen corki?
I'm a mordekaiser main.
I love my elternum cassio!
Ayo fuck off. Siren Cassio is the best
About splashes - that's right, her splashes are old, yet there are still some splashes that needs remade even more (mainly legacy ones - Shamrock Malphite, Nightmare Cho'Gath, Black Alistar).
General visual update - look above. Would be welcome, yet again, there are champions that need it even more (Fiddle or Shaco as first thought)
No content - again, she isn't only one here. From 140 champions there are probably a lot more that didn't get any emote nor icon.
Lore - look for The Shedding of Skin story. It's not much, yet still not in worst state.
Passive - here I agree, it's weird one. You can play around that buying another damage item instead of boots, yet sometimes you would want to make some use of actual boots and their passives (Mercury against lots of CC? Tabi to counter enemy ADC?)
You're kinda biased considering you never mentioned the tail update in the model section. There are champions that have it much worse but i get what you want to say.
Is this a shitpost? Wow she only has 1 icon?! Omg!
WOW you are saty..
I agree on the skins, but there's also a million champs with less than stellar lore.
Yeah, I was pretty confused when they called her a Shuriman, isn't she Kat's sister?
So this will get buried, but the 'six lines of text' in her lore is as wrong as it gets. Cassiopeia's biography may only have six lines of text, but she has an entire short story called The Shedding of the Skin.
Now compare it to Talon please. I'd do one like yours but I know it'll get downvoted because everyone hates Talon. Majority at least.
champ is still fun as shit and even seen in competitive play. dumb post. at first i thought this was like a riot post talking about making changes to the champ but once you get past halfway the tone gets bitchier and you realize its just some kid whining and presenting opinions as fact
when people make posts like this i can never discern the reasoning, if he was a cassio main, he would like the champ and would therefore not have these concerns, or you dont main it in the first place. if he's not a cassio main, then let cassio players speak on their own behalf as their opinion is 100x more valuable
bringing the passive up is also invalid. the change to the length of games was far too recent, and to say that it is "literally a meme and nothing else" is disingenuous when it clearly has a purpose because games do still go on to get to 6 items with decent frequency, even if reduced.
lacking a conclusion or solution
Y’all really care that much about what the splash arts😂
Urgot has no sex appeal, why does riot hate us so much
THIS has thousands of upvotes? Mordekaiser is nigh unplayable with his numerous bugs. Someone posted a massive list and got LOL front page but Riot has done nearly nothing and you’re worried about Cassiopeia?
Imagine getting entirely locked out of your Q; that’s a reoccurring Morde bug.
Make Morde great again.
mos of this is visual/skin based, so i dont give a fuck. But her passive is a joke, thats right
It's mostly cosmetics you're worried about but i do agree her passive should buff her in some way
Jesus dude, relax.
First of all, damm this animation looks so cool. On the other hand ur right. The ability to have no boots is terrible when you look at the mobility of modern champs/ reworks. I wish she would get a bit more love cause its so satisfying seeing a well played cassio ( looking at you Nisqy)
op saying what we all been thinking!
When I played league of legends Cassiopeia was my favorite Character to play. Then they updated her and fucked her completely up. Even the lore was taken from her. After already breaking two IKEA desks (due to the community) and then this happening I officially gave up league.
Old passive gave Cass free lifesteal, 25%CDR, and 20% bonus AP. New passive is a nerf, nothing more to say. I'd rather spend 1100g for a nice chunk of movespeed NOW then an incremental increase overtime. Meanwhile what can you buy with 1100g that can make up for the loss CDR and AP?
Yo nice post but don't ever talk shit about our boi Rammus again!
I like this, a passive should give something to the user rather than take something away. For instance Kalista's autos only doing 90% damage, but who is she anyway?
I really really would like to pick up Cassiopeia for ranked but she looks and feels so fucking underwhelming I would probably fall back to Iron IV from P1 because of playing her :(
Hmmm I still don’t care
whats a cassiopeia
Her Eternum skin is ridiculous and have nothing good compared to Nocturne and Rek'sai Eternum which bot have cool VFX, Texture (Cassiopeia doesn't have the same scale as Nocturne and Rek'sai looks like she is weaker), her Eternum Lore is nonsense literally because Nocturne and Rek'sai they aren't Aliens, but she is????
I think that she is in the same boat with J4 Dark Star and Cosmic Ashe, Lulu and Xin Zhao...
Who cares about any of this? You give a shit about the fact that she only has 1 summoner icon? Really sad. Cosmetics and balance are the only things to care about. Riot don't care about the lore, it's obvious. It was never good and it was never gonna improve. Christ this is pathetic.
high quality whining over a total non-issue. Cass is probably not even in the bottom half of champs in need of more love. Her balance is good, her gameplay patterns are clear and fair and fun, her visuals are good especially with the tail update, there are so many champions that have so many more severe problems than Cassopeia.
Is this a joke?? Why is this post on the front page and actually relevant issues not?
(at least she has a summoner icon)....cough... Heimer.
so there are no problems at all apart from she hasnt got a good enough skin
Yeah, unfortunately you havent changed at all snaketits. Just more complaining.
I appreciate the formatting of this post. Though I am not a Cassiopeia main, I understand many of the issues you bring up here. I hope this post gets more attention.
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IT FUCKING WORKED, YOU SHITPOSTING MEMELORDS! WE SAVED LEAGUE!
WE DID IT REDDIT!
hello marc dont sleep or else we weep
/u/tryndamere is the real MVP for getting me this picture of him sleeping
Didn't buy qss, smh
Wake up, Marc! I do believe in shitposts, I do! I do!
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But he looks so comfortable.
He can just ulti and survive though 0.0
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Only the head of Riot is left :O
He woke now
"oh hai marc"
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1 updoot = 1 MarcMerrillAwo
Guys, if we all repost the same comments every time, we'll all get double the karma
Zoe got him!!!
But I don’t want to save league!!!
Marc dreaming about Regi
fuk u mark wake the hel up
sleep tight marcer
hes about to get hit by paddlestar can someone pls shen ult mr merrill
Let League die, it’s the only way we get our lives back
Marc sure gained a lot of weight since last we saw him.
Assassination plot revealed. Riot employees collectively trying to topple Merill's guiding leadership by attempted crushing and suffocation under tons of blankets
w8 me up
Maybe when he wakes up the jungle will be fixed
Marc Merill: I'm sleeping THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING
WAKE UP FISHY WAKE UP!
Wait, what if Coctopus actually never left Riot and it all was in preparation for that April Fools?
Damn, that'd be the pinnacle of memeage.
Damn it Zoe!
Tryndamere is a false prophet.
All Hail Ryze!
TIL Zoe hits bubble in real life
The guy who was caught getting elo boosted is gonna save league? How ironic
what if i want league to die?
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If Marc doesn’t wake up after 15 minutes we’re legally allowed to let league die
It’s not up to us, it’s up to our Chinese overlords at Tencent Games
Did my rp buy that pillow under his head
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This shit is not funny at all. This sub has turned into a epileptic cesspool for 13 year olds.
Real good April fools guys.
yawn & stretch
EU > NA | #EUphoria
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HUNI CAN WIN EU AND KR BUT CAN'T BEAT NA. NA BEST REGION
EU WAKING UP ABOUT NOW
DEFEND OUR REGION
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Where's the April Fools joke though
Diamond 1 on NA = Bronze 5 on EUW
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Needs more jpeg
Clever april fools.
doot diddly donger cuckerino HAHA
GENERAL QTPIE WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
quote me on thos but EU is trash
I will always upvote the admiral
Well i actually think FNC looks stronger than any NA team atm.
It looks like I’ll have to summon the ancient Huezilla
It is currently the fifth spot on google images search. GG
Just woke up and needeed 10 minutes to understand what was going on, well played North American friends, well played !
Ru issa joke
EU SEASON 1 CHAMPS BAYBEE
wheres my boy chapanya at?
if EU is worse, then how come NA keeps doing all it can to steal EU players??
LCK viewership so small, EU higher than LCK but less than NA, EU 2nd best region confirmed
Its kinda sad that this is only relevant at RR and April Fools day, I guess the latter came faster this year.
??? Using a time were most of the EU Reddit users are asleep, NA Mods backstabbing us again!
ngl there was a period where I was sure Dongsquad was Imaqtpie's reddit account.
I thought these were supposed to be jokes, not stating facts. Kappa
Hello, we are back with another image. In this case, it is an image to indicate where to ward in order to secure Nashor.
It also shows the sweeping paths you should take to deny enemy's vision on the process.
Blog entry with further explanations: https://omniusuniversityblog.wordpress.com/2018/03/05/basic-concepts-2-securing-nashor/
Feel free to comment and add any suggestions!
Disclaimer: Ward's location shows what you should do when you are ahead. If you are the team behind, you should be controlling your own jungle controlling the spots used for the opposite team.
We are also going to leave the previous post in case someone wants/missed it for the laning phase: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/7yrv8l/warding_scheme_img/
About the old picture, there were a lot of nice people asking for a specific ward, so you can find an updated picture of the previous post here: https://i.imgur.com/dGGbL1T.png
This is super helpful, but as a suppletory tip, I'd recommend being unpredictable with your wards. Almost all the places listed are super common to sweep, and sometimes if you get creative you can get super crucial wards that people miss. This is especially the case around baron/dragon.
What does Non Preferent mean?
Missing two super important ones between the mid turrets. But pretty nice setup very clean looking.
Great visual, but it's quite inconsistent in terms of naming schema.
Why is one ward in Spanish Estándard
Thanks! As a support main, seeing this picture will really help me improve vision control for my team and be able to react proactively to multiple scenarios.
No Krug Bush ward? Red side Blue Buff/Gromp ward is also very common.
Great job on this!
No wards on mid lane in between jungle entrances? Okay..
This is extremely useful and I can't wait to see what the next renditions look like
You guys might want to look up the word suppletory. It means the opposite of what you're using it for on your graph. I'm assuming the word you're going for is supplementary.
Really useful information, I wish my teammates looks the minimap to make this efective....
What is a control/pink ward - every teammate ever. I’m plat :(
Whats the pushing ward?
I noticed the wording on the Red Side standard ward in mid. Gave me a good chuckle.
Control Ward not Pink ward, even tho i WOULD LOVE TO HAVE PINK WARDS BACK, fuck kha and fuck Vayne
seems kinda outdated. blastcones arent taken into account at all and the "standart wards" in the sidelane river brushes are not far out enough to spot ganks
what about the blue buff ward? its everyones favourite place to have a sniff
The brush called Great Vision for Top and Bot, and the brush between Wolves and mid tier 1 turret and superb Control Ward spots
You're missing the ward on the other side of blue buff that can see both sides
League of wards.
Totally unrelated but just a new viewer wanting to know how hard it is to steal a baron and why is it important? Saw meteos do it and the caster had a nice reaction so just asking
Wtf is a ward
Thanks for the content! On a side note, posts like these make me appreciate how cool the map looks. I remember the old SR and the old old SR
This is missing a lot. You want lane wards in mid. You want defensive wards and you want wards ON camps. You can also ward in between top/bot lane inner/outer (good to see they laneswap after taking bot tower).
However if you want general advice i would say raptors and the bush over the wall for red and blue is good. Other than the normal river wards.
"Invisible jungler ward" should be the name of TSM's jungler.
Besides lane wards, the only obvious ward I don't see is the ward over the wall between blue and gromp. That's a fairly common and very useful ward.
I love the sentiment, but anyone who needs to study a chart to figure out basic game awareness aren't the types of players that put any wards down at all.
I say stick to the basics:
Low ELO Players: Put wards down, it helps.
High ELO Players: Put wards down as you see fit, you obviously know how to play the game.
This is clearly based around the laning phase, but just a friendly reminder that lane wards after taking towers especially mid lane are very important.
The "great vision at top jungle" ward is in the wrong spot. I'll go take some screenshots brb.https://imgur.com/a/TCv7YBasically instead of warding for great vision at top jungle and movement visibility at top, if you ward in the right spot between the two then you get to see the key areas for both with just one wardsituationally you might want to move it to one side or the other but generally in the middle is the default place you want to put it
Today I was requested to do this pic for a blog, and I though it could be also useful for the people here, specially the ones who are more new to the game or the ones having a hard time deciding where to ward.
It is the first time I'm posting such a large picture, so I guess it will scale properly. If there is any problem with it, tell me.
Oh, and the blog entry where it is, is here: https://omniusuniversityblog.wordpress.com/2018/02/19/basic-concepts-1-warding-in-the-laning-phase/ Just in case you want to get a little bit deeper into the topic. If for any chance you prefer it in spanish, there's also the choice: https://omniusuniversityblog.wordpress.com/2018/02/19/conceptos-basicos-1-wards-en-linea/