I am not seeing a citation for that statement and what is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without it.
The annoying thing with "starvation mode" is that there is truth to it, just not nearly to the degree fatlogicians claim. I feel like every responsible person talking about it needs to include a disclaimer "Not talking about a moderate deficit like when dieting" in big bold letters.
In this case it's written in a non-nuanced misleading way, most likely from fatlogic thinking.
What is highlighted is 100 percent bullshit.
The starvation response is if you are already low fat and continue on a calorie deficit. It does not apply to obese or even high range of healthy BMI people losing 15 pounds.
It is kind of impossible to gain only fat weight. When you gain weight you gain fat but you also gain water and lean mass to support it such as blood vessals, muscles to life it and connective tissue.
I'm no scientist but I think this just means that after a period of near-starvation or a very intense diet, your body is going to send out hunger cues like crazy, obviously you'll feel ravenous, so you would eat a lot more and regain fat. Not sure though.
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It's describing something that's real enough - many people go in cycles of gaining and losing weight. That's what a "yo-yo diet" is.
As for why it happens, the most obvious answer is simply that people stop following their restriction diets, gain the weight back, then feel the need to lose weight again. Trying to explain cyclical dieting as being some kind of unavoidable effect of a restrictive diet seems... silly.
I was reading the Wikipedia page for the yo-yo effect when I came across this. I'm reluctant to believe it because when I clicked on "starvation response" I found that it was an explanation for what happens to animals when they don't have access to food. I also read the abstract of one of the papers cited and it's basically a survival mechanism for real lack of food (that is actual lack of food, not just restriction).
The part I circled on the screen cap seems to imply that after you finish your diet, your body will gain weight again. Am I wrong in interpreting that? And, is it true? It seems to contradict itself later in the same paragraph. I don't think it is, however I don't want to jump at fat logic, I really want to understand. Thanks.
More information here. It's fat logic.
I’ll agree that bad dieting (in my experience, can be too low of a deficit combined with high activity output) can lead to crazy strong hunger signals that are hard to fight through. It’s hard to create a comprehensive definition of a crash diet because what’s appropriate changes for each individual. The only thing to do is to teach people that it’s normal to learn about food and your personal energy needs and apply that knowledge to create an individualized diet that suits your goals. Until then we’re just going to see people trying commercial or trendy diets, eating too little for short periods, and flailing about unsuccessfully and then drawing unwarranted conclusions based on those experiences.
Is that a recent edit? There are no studies supporting it.
The previous sentences mention extreme diets (and are called out for not being clear enough). Someone should edit the sentences to clarify it so as to improve article quality. But it does mention extreme diets as opposed to healthy eating and exercise.
Wikipedia often has incorrect stuff for a while that gets corrected. Then people fight about it for a while and eventually the best version of the article wins. This process can take a long time.
In all fairness, weight cycling is absolutely terrible for your health
Anyone can write to Wikipedia. I have written things for Wikipedia
It’s true. Have an underweight friend struggling to gain weight? Have him go on a restricted diet to lose 10 lbs. they should regain 15 within a few months. Counterintuitive
crash diets absolutely trigger a starvation response... moderation does not
After completing a diet the Dieter is likely to return to their old eating habits and gain weight again
I don’t understand why these people have to talk in such extremes. “NO WAY” “SERIOUS DAMAGE” “ROBBING YOU” “DISASTROUS CONSEQUENCES” “DEPRIVATION”
Like ffs, no one is advocating anyone to stop eating forever
Also, I find the use of “shrinking” so comical. All I can think of is shrink rays and super tiny people
This woman is insane, I hate listen to her podcast
This is just so incredibly false. My relationship with food is IMPROVED being more intentional about what I eat. I don't just blindly eat everything in sight and day dream about the chocolate cupcake I can eat later. I don't horde snacks so that I can eat them in secret.
By reading about nutrition and health I have become more deliberate and thoughtful about what I choose to eat. Everything I eat is still delicious! I'm not crying over a bowl of raw kale while wishing it was a donut like these people seem to think every normal weight person is doing. I don't restrict myself from things I want, I just make sure the choice is conscious.
I mean if someone is obese, their relationship with food is likely damaged already
She said that weight loss may occur as a result of recovery from disordered eating.
But Twitter and Tumblr told me that weight is totally genetic. Recovery from disordered eating should not affect weight.
I actually healed my relationship with food by losing weight. I’m no longer binging and then hating myself.
Food Psych is the perfect fusion of a normal weight person and abusing anti-disorder language to discourage people from being normal weight. I suppose these mantras could be useful to someone struggling with anorexia, but it's outright dangerous to the average overweight/obese American who really does need to feel a less peace with food.
I don’t mind hearing about how to fight obesity from a thin person. Just like how I appreciate advice on how to overcome alcoholism when it comes from a sober person.
Sometimes the person who conquered it has the best advice.
Imagine if you were in a lecture about the effects of smoking and every five minutes the lecturer was like 'And of course you CAN GET CANCER WITHOUT SMOKING 3 PACKS A DAY. It isn't JUST smokers who get cancer, so. JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR. We don't want to make the smoker's feel bad.'
as a recovering anorexic, i don’t emotionally manipulate people by saying shit like “Oooooooooh, i can feel her,,,,, the ANOREXIA,,,,, she comin BACK,,,,, she MAD!!”
and also i know everyone’s different but i’ve never been triggered by people stating simple facts.
Anorexia and fatphobia/“medicalized fatphobia” aren’t really related at all. They’re using the mentally ill as props to show how awful their own lives are.
You know, if you don't want to listen to the lecture, just leave. You certainly won't learn any less than this.
Welcome to college. You're going to have your views challenged, you're going to hear stuff you find offensive, and some of that "offensive content" that challenges your worldview will be 100% factual. Go do your research, and don't just stick to the sources that agree with your existing viewpoint. 🤗
Ok what the fuck is "the war on obesity" ? Is that a real term or did they just steal it from the war on drugs?
I bet this prof (or TA) is going to have fun marking the next assignment from this one here.
There is an actual thing called minority stress that is experienced by oppressed groups, it results from racism, homophobia, etc. If they're correct about the health implications of fatphobia, it should stand to reason that the health effects from it would be the same as any other minority experiencing minority stress.
While there is a bit of overlap (such as hypertension), the major issues of minority stress and obesity aren't the same. Folks experiencing minority stress have typical chronic stress reactions - anxiety, poor immune response, higher suicide rates, increased sexual risk taking, high rates of substance abuse, and higher alcohol consumption.
Obesity on the other hand is linked with metabolic syndrome, diabetes, fatty liver disease, gallbladder disease, cataracts, sleep apnea, PCOS, infertility, kidney disease, nerve defects, joint disease, stress incontinence, and a whole host of cancers that haven't been connected to minority stress. Interestingly, obese folks have equal or lower rates of alcohol and substance abuse, and lower rates of suicide compared to the general public.
If fatphobia was a type of minority stress than minorities would be expected to have all these other health conditions as well, but big surprise, they don't!
Can we have content warnings on obnoxious bullshit spouted by people who have no idea what they're talking about? Cause that would actually be useful...
Maybe if OP paid attention to the lecture rather than bitch about it online, the subject wouldn’t be so triggering
I wonder what their major is... if they're getting offended by the mention of obesity they're gonna have a hell of a time in a lot of major programs tbh
Sounds like a delightful student.
The image of this warrior “vibrating with fury” is hilarious and wonderful, A+
"And me, a fat liberationist.."
Can you imagine walking around referring to yourself as such?
I can't roll my eyes any harder.
If it was a fat person lecturing, then they would have a problem with "internalized fatphobia".
It's almost as if they don't want to hear truth from anyone.
If this person is in University and it sounds like they might be, they may be quite young. That's quite sad if they are already filled with so much rage and fatlogic.
A whole pile of horseshit!!!!! First of all, it’s fatophobia, not fatphobia. Second, no legit research would use the term a medical condition (I.e. phobia, occur on individuals) on a collective and “societal” level... And third, fatophobia is a genuine phobia, impulsive fear. It does not mean “hating fat people”. Seems that person should look up books first
Vibrating with fury
You sure you're not just shaking from a sugar crash?
Somebody's failing that class.
I wonder why they didn't say anything to the speaker instead of vibrating
This person obviously doesn't need college... a few $500 weekend seminars with your local HAESTM certified lecturer and you'll be able to upend the entire medical community!
Where is the line? Mental illness is the line. Do the behaviors negatively impact quality of life and contribute to anxiety and obsession? That's the line.
I wash my hands 20 times a day. That doesn't diagnose me with OCD. I have twin newborns and a preschooler and I'm trying to keep everyone healthy during flu season. Babies like to suck on everything and little boys are germ spreaders. Also, I wash my hands after every diaper change, upwards of a dozen per day with two combined.
The behavior isn't the disease. Skipping breakfast in favor of a coffee isn't anorexia and it's pretty insulting to the people that suffer from the spiralling obsession to minimize it by characterizing avoiding fast food and buying a dress one size down as mental illness.
nobody who does IF can’t admit that it is essentially skipping meals lol. just that anyone who responsibly does IF will make sure to get enough calories even on a deficit.
edit: also IF is most often a useful tool to prevent overeating and stay within the proper amount of calories. eating breakfast, lunch, dinner, and multiple snacks/drinks is how people gain weight. with IF, you can have bigger and more filling meals (+dessert on occasion) without overeating.
conversely, you can still gain weight on IF if you binge eat within feeding hours. every week in the sub there are people asking why they’re not losing when they don’t track calories.
I have to admit that I hate the term "clean eating". It's never clearly defined, so it ends up being a proxy for whatever the latest hoodoo bullshit is, especially in the bodybuilding world. I think a lot of the BS that FAs rant about originates with "clean" -- you must never eat these foods, and always eat those.
Well when my anorexia was in full flight I needed to speak to a therapist about buying clothes that were too small for me because I was a woman in my 20s having full on crying fits, exercising until I got stress fractures in my feet and having suicidal thoughts because my goal was underwear for 5 year old children.
I was already wearing underwear for a 6 year old but obsessively buying even smaller pairs to ‘keep me on track’ and exhibiting such disordered behaviours that people who had just met me were able to diagnose that I had anorexia within first meeting.
Last week now in ED recovery I bought a sweatshirt that’s a tiny bit tight in the boobs and didn’t need to tell my therapist because if I just wear it with nothing under it it’s fine and honestly my recovery (involving IF actually) is stabilising me nicely so I’m breaking the fluctuation cycle of binge/purge/restrict I was in and another few weeks and the sweatshirt will fit nicely.
And if it doesn’t I’ll give to a charity shop and chalk it up to life and carry on with recovery. See the difference?
how come when i buy clothes that don't fit, it's something i have to tell my therapist about
Why are you buying clothes that don't fit in the first place? I'm guessing just so you have something to bitch about. Maybe don't waste the money next time.
Or should I be like, "omg, you are literally stealing clothes that don't fit you off the racks so that when people who live in a naturally smaller body go to practice self care with heir preferred retail therapist you are l i t e r a l l y denying a minority group access to essential goods and services. next time, center your worldview on the 30 percent of the country who suffer from your fat privilege which you, btw, need to c h e c k."
Another HAES/FA pretending to have Anorexia so they have moral and emotional superiority in the conversation. Can't say bullshit because their "lived experience" trumps all.
Well, for one thing by eating a diet of almost entirely whole foods and leaving ultra-processed, hyper-palatable junk to an occasional thing I haven't spiraled into a self-destructively low weight that harms my body. If anything, I'm trying to put a bit more muscle (and probably some weight) on. Not a typical goal for an anorexic.
What FAs mean by “sugar is healthy”: chocolate bars, cake, ice cream, donuts
What healthy sugar is: apples, berries, bananas, etc.
guys stop demonising sugar its feelings are rly hurt 😔
I'm prediebetic, why am I not a genius?!?!
Fact Check- your body can make it's own glucose through glucenogenesis. There is absolutely no need for external sugar.
I've gone to a very low-carb diet and have stopped eating sugar. I have more energy and think clearer than ever.
Removing sugar from your diet is one of the easiest ways of improving your health.
I mean, carbs are the brain’s primary source of fuel .... but that doesn’t mean you risk brain damage if you don’t gorge yourself on cupcakes on a daily basis.
Sugar (specifically glucose) is the brain’s “primary” source of fuel, but it can also use ketones, and the body can also make glucose from other substances. So no, you don’t need to eat candy and cookies for your brain to work properly.
FAs are almost as good as antivaxxers when it comes to taking a small grain of truth and turning it into a whopping truckload of bullshit.
When your entire lifestyle revolves around gorging on high sugar foods, I imagine someone saying that sugar is bad for you does feel like a personal attack.
What they are actually saying is, "Stop criticizing my terrible choices, it makes me have to face them!"
"Carbs are your brains/body's preferred source of energy cause it gets burned first!" Well technically alcohol gets burned before carbs....
I love being low carb haha.
"primary energy source" HAES person needs to cite a damn info source.
Ya no. We got along just fine without canesugar and sugar additives for a good long time. Here in the west, we can blame the Tudors on that. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpJI3fHOj78
I mean, technically, your body does need sugars for energy, but there’s a huge difference between what a microbiologist calls sugar and the high fructose corn syrup that the fatties are gobbling up
I mean, carbohydrates do help brain function, but they don't have to be in the form of sugar and junk food FFS.
That's truly horrifying if these women were wearing adult size 12 at age 12... that's a 40 inch hip (had to google that bit on info).
And they weren't done growing yet...
Love the casual skinny shaming that is somehow acceptable.
Why do these people think that any size below plus size is "anorexic" or "unhealthy"?
Hip bones is one of the bony landmarks of the body- bone that's close enough to the skin and can be used as a point of reference when drawing. But turns out visible hip bones is now not okay?
Love that the hip bones thing is somehow seen as a negative.
I want hip bones sharp enough to cut glass, don't @ me.
That's delusion in effect plain and simple. These people have completely lost all concept of what a healthy weight looks like.
im an overweight size 4 lol at average height 5’4” 150 lbs
Jesus christ, I'm a 6'1" male but I looked up the conversion chart and I'm a size 8. I'm in a regular BMI category, but I could still loose some weight. Fuck off with that "I would be stick and bones at size 12" shit.
5'10", and at barely overweight I'm a 12. No protruding hip bones.
it might be vanity sizing. add the fact I’ve got NO ASS
No, you didn't wear a size 12 when you were anorexic. Because you never were anorexic.
I’m from the UK so maybe the sizing is different but I’m a size 12 and at a normal weight (135lbs, 5’7) but I’m still fairly chubby honestly? I’d hardly say that’s cause for concern at all
Reminder for every 1 real person with real Anorexia Nervosa there are dozens if not hundreds of FA/HAES lying about being Anorexic.
They probably wore a 12 when they were preteens when sizes were much smaller. I have size 10 pants from 15yrs ago that fit about the same as 6s. People really don't realize how much vanity sizing has increased.
I want to meet these Amazonians that have protruding hip bones at size 12.
How expensive you reckon is maintaining a 600 lb body? That's an average of 4000 -5000 calories per day.
What poorest of the poor can afford that much food on food stamps and welfare?
“The whole point of this country is that if you want to eat garbage, balloon up to 600lb and die of a heart attack at 43, you can. To me, that’s beautiful.” - Ron Swanson
And also this lady. Too bad she lives in the UK and is encouraging people to be a drain on the NHS.
“It’s so expensive to eat less.”
No one is saying someone isn't "allowed" to be 600 lbs. Nobody is kicking down doors and dragging 600 lbs people off to fat camps to subsist on celery and water. In fact, if anything, in my lifetime we've seen an uptick of 600 lbs people begging for help to stop abusing food and for people to kick down their door and knock out a portion of their walls to free them from the homes they're trapped in by their sheer size.
There's an element of voluntarism in being 600 lbs (and overweight or obese to a lesser degree) but treating that sort of pathological food abuse as if it's an alternative lifestyle "choice" is like treating any other individual and public health issue as though it's nothing more than choosing between different handbags or styles of dress.
Obviously it's expensive to be healthy to the poorest of the poor, they don't have money to even eat. Why are people so blind? There are people going through famine in the American continent itself, you can't be so blind to the point you don't realize that being 600lbs denote a social privilege??? Gosh, those people are tiring.
My personal food expenses are super cheap. And I don’t eat cheap food. Steak, ground beef chicken, fish, shrimp, eggs, veggies. When I buy a steak? I buy a decent thick ribeye or strip. I cut it. It’s usually two or three portions. I eat it with eggs, a handful of shrimp, and some greens. Ground beef or ground turkey? Low sodium taco seasoning, lettuce, onion, avocado, taco sauce. Couple of fish filets with some broccoli. My snacks are usually hard boiled eggs....sometimes I might have some sugar free cool whip with some natural peanut butter. My dietary needs are small. The food I buy lasts and usually contributes to more than one meal. My protein is high so I stay full after I eat. It’s buying new clothes (because I keep losing inches and my body is shifting from working out) that is actually really costing me. I started shopping at Ross to compensate.
I think the real issue here is there's a lot of snake oil salesmen out there and misinformation in regards to what's "healthy" that prey on people who desperately want to stop being obese. most poor people can't often afford (time or money-wise) to make butternut squash and toasted quinoa salad, or whatever the fuck, and a lot of publications out there exclusively push that kind of food as 'healthy.' I've been there, I've been broke and wanting to improve my diet. you look at the ingredient list and compare it to what's in your cabinet and go "fuck it."
in reality it's really cheap to eat healthy, but the ingredients aren't glamorous. they don't get much press because they're not moneymakers for big food. a bag of frozen chicken breasts and a few bags of frozen veggies are very cheap and will last a long time, but that's not what's advertised. those aren't "superfoods." you can't really blame people who know very little about nutrition and didn't have good role models growing up for not figuring that shit out on their own... for me, it took some research and wading through a lot of marketing junk.
it seems obvious to us because we've known this stuff now for a while and internalized it, but a lot of people genuinely don't know how to put together a healthy meal and if you just follow the labels and buy stuff that claims to be healthy (or "all natural" or whatever the fuck) you're just perpetuating the cycle of fatness.
"fat-phobia is a huge problem within the poorest of the poor because it's really expensive to be healthy" notice the tacit admission that being fat is not healthy
Fine, so they're allowed to make themselves through their own misguided actions 600lbs. But I as a responsible fit person should be allowed, in return, to pay a MUCH LOWER insurance premium than these people who are setting themselves up for a litany of expensive and completely avoidable health issues later on in life (assuming they live long enough).
If a person wants to be fat, there should be absolutely no subsidy afforded to them for their terrible choices and garbage lifestyles.
How many 600lb people are independently wealthy and can afford the medical care, personal care, and food it takes to maintain? I'd say close to zero. Most are unable to work. It's not policing a life choice. It is a cost...
I would be horrified if others had to pay for my care.
The society we're living in is a society where everyone has to contribute to everyone else's healthcare - through taxes or insurance premiums. That gives us every right to police others' lives because we all pay for each other.
The Cancer Research warnings were based on a meta-analysis of 17 high quality studies showing a causal link between obesity and cancer. They are just doing their job and telling people facts. Whether it works or not is up to the people hearing the message. Should they not have reported on the link between smoking and cancer because some smokers might feel bad about it and smoke more?
Then sure, we're allowed to tell you you are fucking deranged for believing really dumb shit.
Here are some of the things you can get at my local Wal-Mart for under 1 dollar:
-2 cans of beans
-1 dozen eggs
-almost 1 pound of apples
-almost 2 pounds of potatoes
-1 loaf of bread
-1 pound of pasta
-about 7 ounces of canned tuna
-12 ounces of any frozen vegetable
-2 cans of just about any canned vegetable
-almost 2 pounds of rice
-1 half gallon of milk
"It is too expensive to eat healthy" is such a huge lie. What it actually means is "I don't want to grocery shop or cook."
"it's really expensive to just consume a lower amount of food"
My sister perpuates this belief and we've had this discussion several times. She wastes a lot of money buying 'superfoods' and specialized organic whatever. But as I keep mentioning to her, they're mostly fads - which is why she no longer eats quinoa and lentils, because now she's into salmon.
Explain to me how tackling obesity is any different to how we tackled smoking.
Nobody wants to be 600lb
"It's so expensive to be healthy that the wealthiest regions of the globe are the most obese." Logic checks out.
Why stop at 600, if morbid obesity is so benign? Everyone just go for the full 2,000 lbs.
If you're so big that you become a liability to those around you, then yes, it's my damn problem. Otherwise? I actually, honestly don't care about your size so long you're not policing mine.
I want this person to try and change "to be 600lbs" with "to be a heroin addict" then read the whole thing again and again until she gets it.
OK not about the fatlogic of it but:
what society are we living in that we have to police people's lives?
The UK. The society you're living in is the UK, the international butt of jokes about police and licensing.
"It's really expensive to be healthy" Bro did u know that consuming LESS food costs LESS money...
Edit: a word
“[redacted] took to Twitter.”
What a hero.
It is not expensive to eat healthily. It CAN be but rice and beans are at most 2 and 3 dollars for a one-pound bags at even the fancy grocery store in my city. every other week you can buy 10 cans of green beans 7 dollars and get points that can buy a week's worth of groceries by the end of 2 months. It's not luxurious and it takes work but it IS affordable.
...because it's really expensive to be healthy.
If you think being healthy costs a lot, wait until you have chronic health problems.
If someone decides to be 600lb, then who is paying for their medical care? Although FA's love to preach about how being fat is an individual choice that people should stop complaining about, their obesity is hurting more than just themselves.
According to the NIH, just being obese (not morbidly) costs an extra $3000 a year in medical care, and being morbidly obese must cost much more.
People should not abuse their bodies and expect society to pay for it.
But wait! Didn’t you know that tracking food is an eating disorder?!
Have we learnt nothing from all those guess-the-number-of-jelly-beans-in-the-jar contests?
People suck at estimating.
As much as that doesn't surprise me; it surprised me to see the degree of their misconceptions were compared to leaner folks/nutritionists.
I think that the exercise part might have to do with the fact that the exercise needed to lose weigh is so much more than someone is used to, so any extra effort at all can feel like it's harder than it really is.
They sure do put a lot of mental energy into trying to convince themselves that they're powerless
I've had this reaction before. "Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. Watch me prove you wrong." And then I did.
"we have to give up the idea of one day achieving..."
I don't have to give up just because you want to give up.
because it confirmed my life experiences up to that point.
There is indeed something very much like relief to be found in a belief system that coddles your delusions and patently allows you to release control of your actions to your baser instincts. Everyone likes being told they are right, and HAES/FA seems to be yet another way for people to tell themselves they’re right, no matter what they do.
I have NOT had copious amounts of misery though! In learning how to just enjoy anything and everything in moderation, I’ve been freed from food guilt, stress, dieting, bingeing, etc. it is not impossible! I’m living proof. I’ve lost 90 lbs as of today. Slow (1 yr) but easy peasy.
Losing weight (I hate the term "dieting") says a lot about me. It says I was able to recognize I had a problem, and had the discipline and the self-love required to solve them. This bit of extra planning has not made my relationship with food any worse - eating generally better has actually allowed me to work little by little on the guilt I associate with unhealthy food.
The fact none of this are positives for FAs says more about them than they realize.
Because overalls are a hobby/personality trait?
$5 says this illustrator has at least one "disney princess but ReAlIsTiC" drawing in her body of work.
Ugh I remember being like that.
No, hon, stuffing your body with junk and refusing to get up from the couch is not a personality either.
Maybe it’s accurate. “My personality is like my body - full of unnecessary baggage”.
Why was this reuploaded? That picture wasn’t her actual photo, it was a drawing.
"Starvation mode" LOL
Yet some of them make their entire identities about being fat/Fat Acceptance/Body Positivity.
Aside from vegan/vegetarian, I've never seen anyone use their diet to describe themselves, does that even happen?
See things like this bother me cause when you first get into dieting, talking about it and talking about your progress is a great motivator. Like I get it can be annoying but at least its helping this person continue a healthier choice for their life.
I don't know who needs to hear this but being fat isn't a personality trait either 🤷♀️
"I'm a fat fierce babe" ok but do you have any hobbies that don't include sending your body into a diabetic coma?
Imagine having "fat" as a personality trait. Blimey!
To be fair, both of those types of people are annoying. Anyone who defines themselves by one trait is probably annoying
Except for the starvation mode nonsense, I kinda agree. "Hi, I'm bzmore, low fat, high-protein, moderate carbs".
I don't understand why people self identify as things like "local fat girl" or "fierce fatty."
Congrats on being in denial that your body is at a higher risk of numerous ailments and diseases?
I've never seen a thin person who self identifies as "local thin girl" or "fierce thinny" online.
Okay then. I mean, I wouldn’t call my diet a personality trait (like, extroverted or high energy) but how I eat might be part of what someone might want to know about me. I am not an overalls enthusiast, for example. But I do practice IF, am mostly paleo, love hiking in the woods, and enjoy filmmaking. Shrug.
Dieting is like a lifestyle change though, it can be pretty consuming when you're just starting and when you're also helping others too.
They always say starvation lmao I remember boogie used to say this shit when he’d attempt dieting.
I used to live in her city and sadly women like this are EVERYWHERE
nono, it’s simple.
‘fat’ is an personal identity. but shh it’s not a choice though, you’re born with it!however, pursuing a lifestyle change that affects you daily is totally irrelevant to your life & sense of being!🤷🏻♂️
That is such a MPLS person.
I follow a keto way of eating and it’s the opposite of starvation for me and for most people. That poor dear could be happier if she’d only do a little bit of reading..
Hey mom, I know you're on keto for your epilepsy but this rando on the internet says you're in starvation mode.
For real, this tweet could have had substance until that.
Maybe you could just learn how to have a mature type of conversation. Then, when people bring up things you aren't particularly interested in, you can acknowlege them and then politely redirect the conversation onto more interesting topics, or just excuse yourself and find someone else to talk to. Believe it or not, not every conversational topic is going to a) interest you, b) be about you, c) pander to your own beliefs, d) affirm your own awesomeness or infallibility.
She's kind of right lol, your diet isn't a personality trait but some people let it become who they are overall... HOWEVER, it's not necessary to point out and who the fuck cares? Let people live their lives how they want too... dieting or whatever thing you're doing is apart of a lifestyle, not a personality trait and there's nothing wrong with having a healthy lifestyle.
If you're fat, ok. If you're skinny, ok but we all should aim to improve ourselves in whatever way we need to, no?
Can we stop with the “I don’t know who needs to hear this, but...”? Just say what you want to say. Adding the intro just makes the speaker seem like a preening ass.
yeah but keto fanatics are not only extremely annoying, but they're wrong as well about nearly all of their health claims
Hey! I thought I was the local far girl in Mpls. This bitch...
Yes one of them is asking non loaded questions!
What the fuck is an mpls?
Being fat isn't a personality trait either, hun.
I rarely see people who aren’t overweight wearing overalls... coincidence?
Thats not how keto works, dumbass.
Why the hell does she have to do my city like this?
To be fair I have met some people who's personality I would describe as "They are vegan/keto/etc" Talking about dieting is fine but they just never stop.
BTW one of my favorite things about CICO is that I almost never have to tell a friend "I can't eat at this restaurant because they don't have things that fit my diet." It's such a drag when you have to spend a half hour looking for a place to eat because someone has dietary restrictions.
and of course she brings up "starvation mode"
Also theres no such thing as starvation mode, just starvation.
Overalls enthusiast? I’m sorry but every obese person I have seen wearing overalls looks like a giant toddler.
It’s not a good look on anyone.
keto =/= starvation mode.
Also, 'starvation mode' is a ridiculous myth.
I feel like there is no winning with this chick. XD
Being skinny isn't a personality trait........but being fat is?
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