I’m dying to know what her response was to the Hulu reply.. she did not take kindly to the accurate sweets over sweats comment
For those of you wondering how she responded, Hulu deleted their tweet however I was able to find the thread.
.@hulu_support It has NOTHING to do with wanting "sweets over sweats." WTF is wrong with you?
Jesus Christ, if you are that triggered by diet and exercise ads, you need to get your ass to therapy, pronto.
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Can't she pay extra for ad-free? Not sure if that's still an option. But then she might get triggered by passing a local marathon or something.
Wait, aren't those ads partly driven by your browsing and viewing history?
Hulu came out swinging.
Good grief, what an enormous crybaby.
Their response is both polite and savage. I love it.
Thank you Hulu for the new flair
How can she manage to avoid tv due to weight loss ads but still choose to go on the big bad internet? Surely weight loss ads are more prevalent there?
10/10 though for Hulu’s straight up savagery 😂😂😂😂
What about people seeing car commercials who had been in accidents? What about people seeing retirement home commercials whose elderly parents have passed away? What about people seeing diaper commercials who can't get pregnant or miscarried? What about people seeing snowboard equipment commercials who are disabled or live near the Equator?
The TV is not a safe place, but neither is the world, for that matter. Getting triggered by fitness ads is a whole another level of frailness.
I want to hear her response lol, I can make out the first line...
Better not use the Internet, or talk to people in public, or anything like that.
Hulu spitting that truth
Seriously, I nearly spilled hot coffee over myself laughing at that response >:( Her incoherent rambling after just made it funnier.
I own a TV...and stream Netflix on it [Hulu is not available in Canada AFAIK]. But it's because I can't afford the ridiculous price of cable in Canada. Nice to have an alternative excuse tho. "Why don't you have cable?" "I'm unreasonably outraged by random commercials that attempt to appeal to the majority instead of catering to my personal preferences."
Fun fact about Hulu: you can pay a few dollars extra to not see ads.
Source: I hate ads and I do this.
LOL good answer, Hulu :)
Hulu’s got fucking jokes.
Someday, she dreams, there will be a streaming service for HAES/FA people. All the ads will be for ice cream and candy and chips, and the original programming will all be fat-affirmational.
Sweets over sweat lmao!
OP missed the censor in the reply bar.
How do these people function? I suffer from (diagnosed by a doctor, not self-diagnosed) PTSD and I had to learn to cope to live in the world. Why don't they try that?
that is hilarious, hulu should have realized that a person complaining about being exposed to diet and exercise ads, isn't going to be able to take the "sweets over sweats" line.
I wonder how some of these people survive i really do, if a family member or close friend of mine started exhibiting such symptoms i would seek professional medical help for them, even having them committed if need be.
I have a problem with commercial TV having ads for restaurants, as they can trigger me to binge. I consider this MY problem and have never contacted any networks over it. I'm the weirdo, aren't I?
She shouldn’t go out then. There are fitness ads everywhere. I’m really worried about her mental health...and, of course, her physical health as well.
Wow. That is hilarious.
But from a professional standpoint that was a terrible PR move on Hulu’s part
TBF, I don't have cable TV and I pay for ad-free streaming so I won't see ads. But last I remember, I saw many more ads for fast food and junk food than I ever did for fitness/weightloss ads. If I had to guess, I'd probably say there's at least 10 times as many food ads as health ads.
Oh no... whatever will Hulu do without her $7 a month...
i will buy the subscriptions she doesn't lol
It is "weightloss season" right now. Of course there are going to be more diet and exercise ads out.
Pro tip: Shell out the extra $3/month for ad-free Hulu. Well worth it.
Nice subtle burn, Hulu! :D
Personally, I don't watch cable TV because I don't like the shows, but that's just me. I don't own a TV, I'll take me cookie, thanks.
Kudos to Hulu for handling this professionally. I don’t know what I would have said...
Was I the only one who noticed that her name shows on the reply bar...
😂 that’s a shitlord response if I’ve ever seen one!
"arbitrary number that we use to separate people into Worthy and Unworthy..."
The projection and self-loathing from these people is brighter than the Bat-Signal.
No it's not arbitrary, it's based on a simple mathematical formula. if a person gave their doctor, and two online calculators their height and weight, all 3 would come back with the same BMI number. It not arbitrary.
Ooooh, I know this one!
We also use BMI to separate people into Healthy and Unhealthy.
I mean if they're referring to fad and crash diets they're not wrong... If they're saying permanent dietary changes don't work, then they're wrong. I don't think you can really tell by this screenshot which it is.
I can see what they mean. People and companies often say diets don’t work because a diet typically a temporary change that people end and return to old habits when people actually need to make a lifestyle change to keep the weight off.
What is this anyways? I think they're trying to provocative for clicks but see plans and pricing so I'd be really surprised if there wasn't some aspect that referred to dietary changes aka a diet.
At least they’re saying “what you need to do to lose weight” instead of “why you can never lose weight”, the latter of which I usually see accompanying a “diets don’t work” comment. I’m pretty sure they’re referring to crash diets in this context.
Yeah, some diets don't work. Like those that promise you lose 10 kg in ten days.
This could very well just be bad wording, why diet's don't work is because people think it's something you do for a short period to lose some weight, not understanding that their regular lifestyle that they just return to is what is making them fat, people don't understand that their daily routine is making or keeping them fat, they think they over indulged one Christmas and just have been unlucky in trying to shift the weight, they have no idea that they are keeping that weight on by overeating on a daily basis.
But that concept can be a little hard to come across in an little blurb for your website/product.
This really depends on the context. If they’re talking about dieting, as in crash dieting, yeah it won’t work long term
most are older so it can't be metabolism.
that's not how it works.
you say metabolism, but i think you mean, reduced activity from getting older, less exercise calories and less NEAT calories, lowers your TDEE, so you need to adjust your intake or increase your output.
1 pint of beer = 208 calories (approximately)
5 x pints = 1,000 calories.
8 x pints = 1,600 calories.
But yeah, sure, its probably the genetics mate. /s
It sounds like excess weight is the least of this person's problems. That is a LOT of alcohol.
I sometimes have a similar reaction when watching secret eaters. Like yes, ok, calorie math on point and everything, but also, somebody think about having a talk about the binge drinking in and of itself, because it's really bad. And everyone is just there cheerfully talking about how to get slimmer as if it's not insane to drink that much on a regular basis, sometimes all alone in your apartment.
Fat people don't realize the simplest and most obvious trick to losing weight is to start drinking more water and drink less alcohol. Watch as you magically eliminate 3,000 liquid calories from your diet.
When I was in rehab, the other alcoholics and I all noticed that we started eating/craving a lot more sweets than we used to eat. We wanted to replace all those empty carbs we weren't allowed to drink anymore. If you "can't" lose weight when you quit drinking, it's because you're compensating with food, whether you realize it or not.
I'm enjoying a salad and a glass of wine right now.
On track to shifting a couple pounds.
Good freaking god, my bladder aches just reading that. Assuming beer is 180-200 calories a pint, that could be an entire’s day worth of calories in one binge.
My Fiance's birthday was yesterday so he had a couple drinks last night, around 5.5 fl oz of vodka total. 450 calories, not counting mixers. This was a 'conservative' amount of alcohol mind you, just two drinks. Meanwhile the chili we had for supper yesterday including brown rice, and toppings of light cheddar and greek yogurt, added up to 360 calories.
With alcohol often times you're drinking well over a meal's worth of calories, with none of the protein, fiber or volume of a proper meal; so of course you still want some actual food on top of all that alcohol.
This is what makes people overweight with drinking. If everyone cut back on calories earlier in the day to account for the alcohol, then it wouldn't be as much of an issue. People don't tend to do this, (even eating more due to drunk munchies or greasy hangover cures) so it's no freaking wonder people gain weight. But suuuure, it's just genetics!
I'm a pretty big craft beer guy but I've cut back a lot in the past 6 months due to the sheer number of calories I was drinking. Even if you're having only 2 beers a night that adds up over the course of a week.
Yeah it's not the beer at all. I've lost 60lbs since I quit drinking.
I too refer to rumors exclusively when making major health decisions.
The comparing yourself to your friends diet thing will always have you falling victim to inaccurate sampling unless you follow that person around for a week.
Years ago I used to have a standing girls night where we would get together and eat a lot at a fancy place and knock back glasses of wine. I discovered one of the girls was pouting about her slow metabolism because “look at how much Ricochet eats and doesn’t gain!”
I made a point to tell her I didn’t eat breakfast or lunch on Thursday’s so could absorb the calories from a night out. I don’t have a magical ability to not process kimchi fries sorry.
Ive never beena heavy fella, but when I was drinking hard I got kinda chuby and was up to 195 from 170. I quit drinking all together and I went back to my weight in a few months.
As an American, that's a terrifying amount. I'd be under the table, even if it were pints of Bud Light (my skin just crawled typing "pint of Bud Light," felt very wrong). I'm guessing this is someone in the UK, Ireland or one of our antipodean brethren?
Secret Eaters S1E1
17 pints a week!
Guy who drank a 5th a night for 3+ years reporting in. When I finally got the help I needed to quit... It was amazing how fast the pounds started to fall off.
5-8 beers is a ton of calories. Probably anywhere from 450-1600 calories. That doesn't even include the food from beer munchies.
I heard a rumour
Well, that settles it. No further investigation needed, this is obviously the truth and we should all just accept it as such.
Craft beer in particular can wreck havoc on any diet, most of these cocoa nib + sweet adjunct stouts are extremely high in calories, as are most IPAs and the recent craze of hazy IPAs, milkshake IPAs, and other beers that on average are 300+ calories per pint.
I'm back to training and running so I stopped drinking all together with the exception of maybe having a half a pint if I'm out with friends every month or so. After I had a high ankle sprain injury it was very quickly noticeable that if I continued to drink like I did I was gaining weight more than I liked. I don't eat or snack much so I knew it all came from beer and a poor/non-existent training plan so I knew it was time to shut it down and get serious again for my health and because I'm one of those crazy people who actually enjoys running and being active.
That's a shit load of beer, and beer is very high on the list of crap that makes you fat. Jesus.
I'm a person who doesn't drink regularly but would tend to binge on a weekend day, say Friday or Saturday. Not usually both. So one day a week I might have drank 10+ beers. Guess what happened? I got fat.
Is this satire?
Can we talk about how that's a crazy amount to drink? I'm in my late 20s and I didn't really grow up in a "drinking culture". I legit can't imagine having more than maybe 2 glasses wine--i get wrecked and need a nap after that, not to mention any more than that is a HUGE calorie sacrifice that I could have put towards pizza. Also, Jesus the liver damage. Does this OP not want to live??
If you switched from light beer in college to some of the more calorie heavy micro brews that are around as you got older, it is entirely possible for the 8 pints this person claims to drink now actually would have more calories.
I'll take "made up shit" for $400, Alex. Also it amuses me these fucking dolts can't even make up self-serving claptrap very well. Let's see, if I gained 9% body weight over four weeks, that would be 20 pounds. In a month. That's a lot of weight.
Poster should have made up better numbers like "none of them could get past .05% weight gain in 2 years of eating 5000 calories a day while being mostly sedentary" or something.
I think I saw a video about this once. It sounds really similar. they forced a bunch of skinny people to sit in a house eating double the amount of calories they need. They all did gain weight. Some gained quite a bit. One dude did put on (minimal) muscle and fat but he could have been exercising on the sly. Cant remember.
After the experiment, they all the dropped the weight when they went back to normal eating habits.
I distinctly remember one dude saying how sick he felt eating that much. It was hard for them.
That's the real answer. It isn't magic, these were people who disliked overeating. That's why they were skinny.
The video itself might have been full of fatlogic by the producers. Once again, I cant remember. But anyone who knows anything about the human body can understand what's going on.
OK, anon, what study? Anon? Anon? Where did you go?!
Yes and no.
Food has always been scarce. For life's 4+ billion year existence food has been scarce. Consuming as much food as possible when its available in order to store energy for the inevitable famine was and still is a fantastic survival strategy. Famine was part of life (and a lot of death) for the last 4+ billion years.
Only withing living memory has too much food become a problem. There are people still alive today who remember being hungry. Americans even. Starvation was a real threat. People who lived through the Great Depression has a very different view of food. Food is something that can all of a sudden go away.
Really it was only since the 1970's and 1980's that obesity started to become a thing. Thats not all that long ago. The problem is our caveman brains and instincts created and honed over 4 billion years of evolution work against us. Developed countries have solved food shortages. Now, hundreds of millions of tons of food rots every year because there's so much we can't eat it all, and not for lack of effort.
The rapidly rising obesity rates in all developed nations are a concern. There's something fundamentally incompatible about our biological craving for high quality, energy dense food and how readily available food is. It made a lot of sense to stuff your face when your next meal might be a week away. Thats no longer the case. If it was just one obese person than maybe its just that one person, but when a third or half of a country is overweight there's a problem. Hundreds of millions of overweight or obese people is a societal problem. I do not have a solution for this very difficult problem.
That said, expending more energy than you consume makes you smaller. Consuming more energy than you expend makes you bigger. Thats a fact. Thats a law of physics. Anyone who does otherwise is either a liar or they're an actual wizard who can violate the laws of thermodynamics at will.
The effects of calorie deficits are well studied and understood: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Starvation_Experiment
These days too many people truly don’t know the difference between persistent mild hunger/cravings and actual starvation.
I love this mysterious “they” that the person keeps evoking. That’s an automatic cue to dismiss everything said out-of-hand.
"The bodies adapted by fidgeting"
Are you telling me that MORE ENERGY than people are used to!!! Gives people MORE ENERGY!!! That if they're not able to burn off, makes them RESTLESS!!!
ScIeNcE iS cRaZy, MaN!
How do they come up with this bullshit??
Damn, that really shakes everything I believe. Those obese people still felt starved! Wow! Clearly that means there is no point in trying to lose weight! And the guy who figured out how to gain muscle without exercising--I wonder what he did with his Nobel Prize money.
9% increase is huge. For me that would be 15 pounds. That would be 1750 calories a day above maintenance. Which isn't far of double.
I'm putting on muscle as I sit here typing. It's awesome!
They couldn't get past 9% body weight increase in four weeks
That's actually a ridiculously fast weight gain and proves that calories directly affect how much you weigh so I don't understand her argument.
where is this study?If this was true the study would be HIGHLY unethical. Also, the results would have made a bigger impact if is was true/half reliable study.
It's true, my body wants to be obese... when I see a pizza, I want to eat the whole thing. When I see a bucket of ice cream, I want to eat the whole 2L...
My body wants to be obese.... but I don't. So I impose portion control and a lot of running on my body.
The "study" they're talking about was an episode of some British TV show, or a special on British TV. Yes, one guy (an Asian dude) did put on muscle. He was the anomaly. However, one requisite of the show was that people had to leave if they put on a certain amount of weight.
Several contestants (because, again...not a study) were kicked out of the house before the end. They lost the weight again quickly because (unlike people who eat themselves into being overweight or obese) they actually ARE capable of intuitive eating. Once they went back to eating normally, they lost the weight.
I can't find this special anymore, sadly. I watched it on YouTube a long time ago. It was really interesting, but definitely made for entertainment. It was as much a "study" as Secret Eaters or Supersize VS Superskinny.
I love how they say “none of them could get past 9% body weight gain” as if that’s some completely insignificant amount of weight to gain in a month. That’s 15 pounds at my current weight! 15 pounds, in a month. You’d have to eat 52,500 extra calories to put on that much weight in one month. That’s insane!
I go somewhere between 175 and 180. 9% of bodyweight would be 16 lbs. in a month.
That's a huge amount.
So you are telling me people felt like shit when they ate more than they wanted and returned to their old eating habits when the study was done? Color me surprised (or maybe not).
Also, "could not get past 9% body weight increase" in 4 weeks: I'd have to more than double my caloric intake to gain that much in 4 weeks. What do you expect they did, stuff them like geese? Or people balooning up just because they ate an additional burger? This post really shows that they have no idea how weight gain and weight loss works.
It's not totally wrong people who have been obese in the past generally will be more hungry and more predisposed to gaining weight in the future.
Which is why it is super important for kids to not be obese and for adults to keep their weight in healthy ranges. Loosing weight is hard but even once you have maintaining it is perhaps harder. The idea that it's some magical need to be fat or whatever is silly. Plus it's bad to make people of a healthy weight become obese since it can lead to lifelong complications. Any study on weight gain must factor this in. 9% is still a big percent.
I, too, puke when I'm forced to eager too much. #introvertproblems
"They did a study"
Meaning the voices in your head?
Eeeeeven if this were real... Do the math. At 133 my maintenance calories are about 1600. If I ate double that for 4 weeks, I'd gain ~12 lbs. Which is ~9% of my current body weight. Did she expect them to gain more than that (if this is a study that actually happened)? That's not them being unable to gain beyond 9%... That's gaining the appropriate amount for doubling your eating in 4 weeks.
A 9% weight increase in 4 weeks is gigantic. What the fuck is with this person acting like it's not?
Also, cite your fucking sources. "They" is not a helpful author search term.
9% weight increase in 4 weeks is HUGE. Wtf.
My body wants to be obese, based on my appetite.
My body is an asshole.
(I didn't go looking for this, I saw this in its original context elsewhere earlier).
Because the context here hasn't been clarified, this isn't someone making things up entirely out of wholecloth, it's a summary of a couple videos that were linked upthread of this comment, and then someone requested a TL;DW (which is why this comment starts with TL;DW).
Is it a bad summary that takes away incorrect conclusions? I don't know, I haven't had a chance to watch the videos that it's summarizing. Clearly there's some issue here either with the original "study" in the videos, or with the interpretation, but this comment in context is not what a lot of the comments here are interpreting it as.
'couldn't get past a 9% increase' in FOUR weeks?! That's tons!
I did reply to this post when I saw it (before seeing it here) sorry to the mods for 'touching the poop ' do you need me to delete that comment?
The guy putting on muscle was probably a warehouse worker or a lumberjack.
"One guy put on muscle for no reason." Fuck you.
feeling starved 2 years later and brain imagery confirmed this
TIL we can detect starvation through brain scans.
My interpretation was that they were discussing how we may have different patterns of satiation/hunger and different eating tendencies (browsing/snacking constantly, OMAD, etc). So figuring out how to work with disordered eating means understanding how your body tends to deal with this stuff. Someone else wrote a more informative overview of the video in question that focused more on using it to realize what your habits are (that may be somewhat biological in nature - namely stuff like whether you can do the OMAD type of thing or if you tend to constantly snack/never feel satisfied) and use that knowledge to "work with" disordered eating patterns vs trying to overthrow the whole system and being discouraged when it is incredibly difficult to maintain.
Edited to remove info that might lead to the source of the screenshot. Also the bit where I said it was disingenuous to post this for karma because OP made good points and I want to add from the discussion vs detract from it.
One guy put on muscles despite not exercising
I hate when that happens.
I think the evidence for the impact of gut bacteria on weight and overall health is pretty dramatic, as shown through many studies. I mean, they mostly affect appetite, so it's still down to calories, but that's a big deal for most people.
Don’t interrupt my safe place with reason and logic!
Good for her. Reminds me a bit of Plant Fatness's claim to be a "Judgement Free Zone" and yet it was created out of judgment of people who are serious weight lifters.
Oh Jesus f**king Christ.This shit makes me so mad.
When I first learned of haes I thought I'd found my tribe. Because I have been some variety of fat all my life, and I was diagnosed with MS nearly 8 years ago and subsequently with fibromyalgia and arthritis... But I'm also god-damned passionate about pursuing fitness and wellness to the absolute extent of my ability, whatever challenges my body throws at me. And I thought that was what haes was about- divorcing health and fitness activities from weight and size, and yet making them a priority in your life.
Boy was I fucking wrong.If you don't want to move your ass and eat intelligently, you're 'doing self care' and 'nourishing your mental health.' There's an excuse for copping out of everything, and Lord help you if you tell them any different!!
I'm still fat and working on it. I still have health challenges. But I'm a qualified personal trainer now and I train average women like myself every day to really, actually be healthy at their particular size. I feel like I'm doing REAL haes but I've scrubbed every last mention of haes from anything I do, say or write because I actually hold myself and others accountable for their choices and decisions and that apparently makes me a hater. 🙄😫😂
Oh dear. Thanks for letting me rant. Obviously needed that off my chest.
As the saying goes, respect must be commanded, not demanded.
Is church really where you need to be ripping into a bag of chips? There isn't some more appropriate venue for that?
I would be mortified if my SO was so insecure about other people's opinion of our relationship that they had to make shitty memes about it on Facebook.
Like, am I so out of your league that you are worried that people talk!? Yuck.
Honestly, I don't. Sorry!
If you think your desire for snack foods is more important than being a respectful member of your church, you shouldn't be there anyway, and I guarantee most of the adults at that church would much rather you leave. Talk about delusion and disrespect. Maybe some people are actually there because it's their place of worship, imagine that. Although I guess if you can't imagine waiting an hour to eat, you don't have a fantastic imagination.
Ban for dehumanizing language.
great strategy for deluding yourself into thinking youre always right, just assume everyone else is secretly super jelly of your smart decision making
Mmmm, I think the comparison would be a little more accurate if the bag of chips went on the internet and blasted "YEAH HE'S EATING ME IN CHURCH!! YOU WISH YOU WERE ME!! MAYBE IF YOU PRAY HARD ENOUGH, THE LORD WILL BLESS YOU WITH SOME CHIPS OF YOUR OWN!!"
But since I'm not sure whether they meant fries or crisps, I'm not certain how salty the reaction is supposed to be.
Could the same be said about fat men?
Yikes, now I'm worried. I'm kind of tall. Better look into this!
Here's an article titled "Do Tall Guys Die Younger?" And--oh my, look at this:
The biggest risk factor you have for an early earthly exit is your weight. Samaras says that healthy short people have lower body mass indexes than healthy tall guys, and research has shown a direct correlation between lower BMI and longevity.
And, well, there's some advice about cutting back on calories to extend one's life. Oops!
Ahhh fuck you. My weight was due to bad choices - my height is because of my genetics. Instead of writing bullshit stories on a HAES blog, I changed my diet and started exercising. I'm no longer fat, but oddly enough I'm still tall.
Get your shit straight and take control of your fucking life.
I feel attacked.
If only there was something we could do about tallness!
Actually, being taller does correlate with dying sooner. The thought is that your heart has to work harder to pump blood through your body.
When you're "tall enough", you are likely to die earlier. Humans didn't evolve to be 8' bodybuilders, our hearts and joints and everything are seriously stressed out by being too large in any dimension, including height. Life is like that: not fair. Being a human means dealing with that.
Height is largely genetic, but not entirely, because nutrition and childhood lifestyle is important too. People have access to enormous amounts of all kinds of food and supplements now, and we don't have to experience brutally hard physical lifestyles as growing children which would stunt growth, so we get taller than earlier times when food was limited and life was harder even for children. It isn't really that far from how we get fatter than people did before, just that just being tall is not nearly so bad as being overweight and unlike being overweight being tall has some considerable advantages too. Like not needing ladders to put on your hat. :P
Short privilge is not have CTE from I don't know how many concussions I have had because I am 6 2 which is not exactly freakishly tall.
Don't tall people die early too?
Trust me if you are fat I see you as fat.
Omg so ableist against blind people!!
/s if it wasn’t obvious
So they want you to see them as fat?
So if you somehow lost weight, would you cease to exist?
are you only measurable and quantifiable by that singular dimension; that of being overweight, or do you have some other traits, quirks, opinions, or other idiosyncrasies by which you could differentiate your own personal uniqueness?
No, just fat, ok got it.
Yes, people are more than their weight. But weight affects so many things, it's not really something that can just be overlooked. It's also a reflection of your lifestyle. Source on both points: I was fat. I know how it made everything harder. I also know what caused it. Fat people can lie to themselves all they want, but I know better.
I don't get what is the point they are trying to make at all.
You can't win with these people.
I would put money on the fact that if I did call this person fat, they would be very upset.
I would’ve expected something like “if you don’t see me as a person” or “if you don’t see me as more than my body” but this is a different/even less reasonable spin on that idea.
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