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Woman doesn’t watch cable tv because she might be exposed to commercials about dieting and fitness

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COMMENTS

  • Instant2Legend
    448 points Feb 18,2019, 8:32pm

    I’m dying to know what her response was to the Hulu reply.. she did not take kindly to the accurate sweets over sweats comment

  • repressedviolenturge
    185 points Feb 18,2019, 8:43pm

    For those of you wondering how she responded, Hulu deleted their tweet however I was able to find the thread.

    Her response:

    .@hulu_support It has NOTHING to do with wanting "sweets over sweats." WTF is wrong with you?

  • BlackCaaaaat
    141 points Feb 18,2019, 8:39pm

    Jesus Christ, if you are that triggered by diet and exercise ads, you need to get your ass to therapy, pronto.

  • OCRAmazon
    71 points Feb 18,2019, 8:50pm

    Can't she pay extra for ad-free? Not sure if that's still an option. But then she might get triggered by passing a local marathon or something.

  • TynFL
    46 points Feb 18,2019, 9:22pm

    Wait, aren't those ads partly driven by your browsing and viewing history?

  • ObsidianThurisaz
    39 points Feb 18,2019, 9:05pm

    Hulu came out swinging.

  • Kovitlac
    27 points Feb 18,2019, 9:54pm

    Good grief, what an enormous crybaby.

  • Sparkly__rainbows
    20 points Feb 18,2019, 10:41pm

    Their response is both polite and savage. I love it.

  • the_bananafish
    20 points Feb 19,2019, 1:24am

    Thank you Hulu for the new flair

  • GennyX
    17 points Feb 18,2019, 11:37pm

    How can she manage to avoid tv due to weight loss ads but still choose to go on the big bad internet? Surely weight loss ads are more prevalent there?

    10/10 though for Hulu’s straight up savagery 😂😂😂😂

  • LieutenantKhamul
    14 points Feb 19,2019, 1:58am

    What about people seeing car commercials who had been in accidents? What about people seeing retirement home commercials whose elderly parents have passed away? What about people seeing diaper commercials who can't get pregnant or miscarried? What about people seeing snowboard equipment commercials who are disabled or live near the Equator?

    The TV is not a safe place, but neither is the world, for that matter. Getting triggered by fitness ads is a whole another level of frailness.

  • Kobra-Kai
    9 points Feb 18,2019, 8:33pm

    I want to hear her response lol, I can make out the first line...

  • blah9871
    9 points Feb 18,2019, 9:11pm

    Better not use the Internet, or talk to people in public, or anything like that.

  • rockbud
    9 points Feb 18,2019, 11:29pm

    Hulu spitting that truth

  • nuhraini1792
    10 points Feb 19,2019, 12:05am

    Seriously, I nearly spilled hot coffee over myself laughing at that response >:( Her incoherent rambling after just made it funnier.

  • a_nicki
    6 points Feb 18,2019, 10:17pm

    I own a TV...and stream Netflix on it [Hulu is not available in Canada AFAIK]. But it's because I can't afford the ridiculous price of cable in Canada. Nice to have an alternative excuse tho. "Why don't you have cable?" "I'm unreasonably outraged by random commercials that attempt to appeal to the majority instead of catering to my personal preferences."

  • zombiemiki
    7 points Feb 18,2019, 11:59pm

    Fun fact about Hulu: you can pay a few dollars extra to not see ads.

    Source: I hate ads and I do this.

  • Blutarg
    9 points Feb 18,2019, 8:50pm

    LOL good answer, Hulu :)

  • BamaMontana
    6 points Feb 19,2019, 12:24am

    Hulu’s got fucking jokes.

  • VeitPogner
    5 points Feb 19,2019, 12:12am

    Someday, she dreams, there will be a streaming service for HAES/FA people. All the ads will be for ice cream and candy and chips, and the original programming will all be fat-affirmational.

  • Davies92
    4 points Feb 19,2019, 2:02am

    Sweets over sweat lmao!

  • Turbine2k5
    3 points Feb 19,2019, 2:20am

    OP missed the censor in the reply bar.

  • haloarh
    3 points Feb 19,2019, 10:08am

    How do these people function? I suffer from (diagnosed by a doctor, not self-diagnosed) PTSD and I had to learn to cope to live in the world. Why don't they try that?

  • BlackdogLao
    3 points Feb 19,2019, 6:40am

    that is hilarious, hulu should have realized that a person complaining about being exposed to diet and exercise ads, isn't going to be able to take the "sweets over sweats" line.

    I wonder how some of these people survive i really do, if a family member or close friend of mine started exhibiting such symptoms i would seek professional medical help for them, even having them committed if need be.

  • tp0328
    3 points Feb 19,2019, 7:27am
  • ConfusingTree
    4 points Feb 19,2019, 1:16am

    I have a problem with commercial TV having ads for restaurants, as they can trigger me to binge. I consider this MY problem and have never contacted any networks over it. I'm the weirdo, aren't I?

  • Christa1201
    2 points Feb 19,2019, 12:18am

    She shouldn’t go out then. There are fitness ads everywhere. I’m really worried about her mental health...and, of course, her physical health as well.

  • Lord_Fblthp
    2 points Feb 19,2019, 1:57am

    Wow. That is hilarious.

    But from a professional standpoint that was a terrible PR move on Hulu’s part

  • npsimons
    2 points Feb 19,2019, 11:31am

    TBF, I don't have cable TV and I pay for ad-free streaming so I won't see ads. But last I remember, I saw many more ads for fast food and junk food than I ever did for fitness/weightloss ads. If I had to guess, I'd probably say there's at least 10 times as many food ads as health ads.

  • emanserueuqinu
    2 points Feb 19,2019, 12:30pm

    Oh no... whatever will Hulu do without her $7 a month...

  • guttergeoff
    1 points Feb 19,2019, 7:46am

    i will buy the subscriptions she doesn't lol

  • hesca
    1 points Feb 19,2019, 8:25am

    It is "weightloss season" right now. Of course there are going to be more diet and exercise ads out.

  • calcaneus
    1 points Feb 19,2019, 9:52am

    Pro tip: Shell out the extra $3/month for ad-free Hulu. Well worth it.

  • jmmyt3
    1 points Feb 19,2019, 10:54am

    Nice subtle burn, Hulu! :D

  • illtemperedklavier
    1 points Feb 19,2019, 1:39pm

    Personally, I don't watch cable TV because I don't like the shows, but that's just me. I don't own a TV, I'll take me cookie, thanks.

  • neuraltransmission
    1 points Feb 19,2019, 1:39pm

    Kudos to Hulu for handling this professionally. I don’t know what I would have said...

  • patsu666
    0 points Feb 19,2019, 8:34am

    Was I the only one who noticed that her name shows on the reply bar...

COMMENTS

  • Instant2Legend
    448 points Feb 18,2019, 8:32pm

    I’m dying to know what her response was to the Hulu reply.. she did not take kindly to the accurate sweets over sweats comment

  • repressedviolenturge
    185 points Feb 18,2019, 8:43pm

    For those of you wondering how she responded, Hulu deleted their tweet however I was able to find the thread.

    Her response:

    .@hulu_support It has NOTHING to do with wanting "sweets over sweats." WTF is wrong with you?

  • BlackCaaaaat
    141 points Feb 18,2019, 8:39pm

    Jesus Christ, if you are that triggered by diet and exercise ads, you need to get your ass to therapy, pronto.

  • butwhoisjasmine
    179 points Feb 18,2019, 8:45pm

    😂 that’s a shitlord response if I’ve ever seen one!

  • OCRAmazon
    71 points Feb 18,2019, 8:50pm

    Can't she pay extra for ad-free? Not sure if that's still an option. But then she might get triggered by passing a local marathon or something.

  • TynFL
    46 points Feb 18,2019, 9:22pm

    Wait, aren't those ads partly driven by your browsing and viewing history?

  • ObsidianThurisaz
    39 points Feb 18,2019, 9:05pm

    Hulu came out swinging.

  • Kovitlac
    27 points Feb 18,2019, 9:54pm

    Good grief, what an enormous crybaby.

  • Sparkly__rainbows
    20 points Feb 18,2019, 10:41pm

    Their response is both polite and savage. I love it.

  • the_bananafish
    20 points Feb 19,2019, 1:24am

    Thank you Hulu for the new flair

  • GennyX
    17 points Feb 18,2019, 11:37pm

    How can she manage to avoid tv due to weight loss ads but still choose to go on the big bad internet? Surely weight loss ads are more prevalent there?

    10/10 though for Hulu’s straight up savagery 😂😂😂😂

  • LieutenantKhamul
    14 points Feb 19,2019, 1:58am

    What about people seeing car commercials who had been in accidents? What about people seeing retirement home commercials whose elderly parents have passed away? What about people seeing diaper commercials who can't get pregnant or miscarried? What about people seeing snowboard equipment commercials who are disabled or live near the Equator?

    The TV is not a safe place, but neither is the world, for that matter. Getting triggered by fitness ads is a whole another level of frailness.

  • Kobra-Kai
    9 points Feb 18,2019, 8:33pm

    I want to hear her response lol, I can make out the first line...

  • blah9871
    9 points Feb 18,2019, 9:11pm

    Better not use the Internet, or talk to people in public, or anything like that.

  • rockbud
    9 points Feb 18,2019, 11:29pm

    Hulu spitting that truth

  • nuhraini1792
    10 points Feb 19,2019, 12:05am

    Seriously, I nearly spilled hot coffee over myself laughing at that response >:( Her incoherent rambling after just made it funnier.

  • a_nicki
    6 points Feb 18,2019, 10:17pm

    I own a TV...and stream Netflix on it [Hulu is not available in Canada AFAIK]. But it's because I can't afford the ridiculous price of cable in Canada. Nice to have an alternative excuse tho. "Why don't you have cable?" "I'm unreasonably outraged by random commercials that attempt to appeal to the majority instead of catering to my personal preferences."

  • zombiemiki
    7 points Feb 18,2019, 11:59pm

    Fun fact about Hulu: you can pay a few dollars extra to not see ads.

    Source: I hate ads and I do this.

  • Blutarg
    9 points Feb 18,2019, 8:50pm

    LOL good answer, Hulu :)

  • BamaMontana
    6 points Feb 19,2019, 12:24am

    Hulu’s got fucking jokes.

  • VeitPogner
    5 points Feb 19,2019, 12:12am

    Someday, she dreams, there will be a streaming service for HAES/FA people. All the ads will be for ice cream and candy and chips, and the original programming will all be fat-affirmational.

  • Davies92
    4 points Feb 19,2019, 2:02am

    Sweets over sweat lmao!

  • Turbine2k5
    3 points Feb 19,2019, 2:20am

    OP missed the censor in the reply bar.

  • haloarh
    3 points Feb 19,2019, 10:08am

    How do these people function? I suffer from (diagnosed by a doctor, not self-diagnosed) PTSD and I had to learn to cope to live in the world. Why don't they try that?

  • BlackdogLao
    3 points Feb 19,2019, 6:40am

    that is hilarious, hulu should have realized that a person complaining about being exposed to diet and exercise ads, isn't going to be able to take the "sweets over sweats" line.

    I wonder how some of these people survive i really do, if a family member or close friend of mine started exhibiting such symptoms i would seek professional medical help for them, even having them committed if need be.

  • tp0328
    3 points Feb 19,2019, 7:27am
  • ConfusingTree
    4 points Feb 19,2019, 1:16am

    I have a problem with commercial TV having ads for restaurants, as they can trigger me to binge. I consider this MY problem and have never contacted any networks over it. I'm the weirdo, aren't I?

  • Christa1201
    2 points Feb 19,2019, 12:18am

    She shouldn’t go out then. There are fitness ads everywhere. I’m really worried about her mental health...and, of course, her physical health as well.

  • Lord_Fblthp
    2 points Feb 19,2019, 1:57am

    Wow. That is hilarious.

    But from a professional standpoint that was a terrible PR move on Hulu’s part

  • npsimons
    2 points Feb 19,2019, 11:31am

    TBF, I don't have cable TV and I pay for ad-free streaming so I won't see ads. But last I remember, I saw many more ads for fast food and junk food than I ever did for fitness/weightloss ads. If I had to guess, I'd probably say there's at least 10 times as many food ads as health ads.

  • emanserueuqinu
    2 points Feb 19,2019, 12:30pm

    Oh no... whatever will Hulu do without her $7 a month...

  • guttergeoff
    1 points Feb 19,2019, 7:46am

    i will buy the subscriptions she doesn't lol

  • hesca
    1 points Feb 19,2019, 8:25am

    It is "weightloss season" right now. Of course there are going to be more diet and exercise ads out.

  • calcaneus
    1 points Feb 19,2019, 9:52am

    Pro tip: Shell out the extra $3/month for ad-free Hulu. Well worth it.

  • jmmyt3
    1 points Feb 19,2019, 10:54am

    Nice subtle burn, Hulu! :D

  • illtemperedklavier
    1 points Feb 19,2019, 1:39pm

    Personally, I don't watch cable TV because I don't like the shows, but that's just me. I don't own a TV, I'll take me cookie, thanks.

  • neuraltransmission
    1 points Feb 19,2019, 1:39pm

    Kudos to Hulu for handling this professionally. I don’t know what I would have said...

  • patsu666
    0 points Feb 19,2019, 8:34am

    Was I the only one who noticed that her name shows on the reply bar...

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BMI does so much more!

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COMMENTS

  • Whack-a-med
    13 points Feb 18,2019, 2:21pm

    "arbitrary number that we use to separate people into Worthy and Unworthy..."

    The projection and self-loathing from these people is brighter than the Bat-Signal.

  • BlackdogLao
    8 points Feb 18,2019, 2:45pm

    No it's not arbitrary, it's based on a simple mathematical formula. if a person gave their doctor, and two online calculators their height and weight, all 3 would come back with the same BMI number. It not arbitrary.

  • seekingindependence
    3 points Feb 18,2019, 3:21pm

    Ooooh, I know this one!

    We also use BMI to separate people into Healthy and Unhealthy.

COMMENTS

  • Whack-a-med
    13 points Feb 18,2019, 2:21pm

    "arbitrary number that we use to separate people into Worthy and Unworthy..."

    The projection and self-loathing from these people is brighter than the Bat-Signal.

  • BlackdogLao
    8 points Feb 18,2019, 2:45pm

    No it's not arbitrary, it's based on a simple mathematical formula. if a person gave their doctor, and two online calculators their height and weight, all 3 would come back with the same BMI number. It not arbitrary.

  • seekingindependence
    3 points Feb 18,2019, 3:21pm

    Ooooh, I know this one!

    We also use BMI to separate people into Healthy and Unhealthy.

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Was reading a website related to weight loss aaaaand never mind they've lost all credibility 🙈

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COMMENTS

  • dksolanicus
    35 points Feb 17,2019, 11:33am

    I mean if they're referring to fad and crash diets they're not wrong... If they're saying permanent dietary changes don't work, then they're wrong. I don't think you can really tell by this screenshot which it is.

  • WTender2
    15 points Feb 17,2019, 11:35am

    I can see what they mean. People and companies often say diets don’t work because a diet typically a temporary change that people end and return to old habits when people actually need to make a lifestyle change to keep the weight off.

  • Toast6789
    5 points Feb 17,2019, 12:42pm

    What is this anyways? I think they're trying to provocative for clicks but see plans and pricing so I'd be really surprised if there wasn't some aspect that referred to dietary changes aka a diet.

  • ThrowawayBulkCutter
    4 points Feb 17,2019, 12:48pm

    At least they’re saying “what you need to do to lose weight” instead of “why you can never lose weight”, the latter of which I usually see accompanying a “diets don’t work” comment. I’m pretty sure they’re referring to crash diets in this context.

  • not_kathrine
    4 points Feb 17,2019, 2:13pm

    Yeah, some diets don't work. Like those that promise you lose 10 kg in ten days.

  • BlackdogLao
    3 points Feb 17,2019, 1:15pm

    This could very well just be bad wording, why diet's don't work is because people think it's something you do for a short period to lose some weight, not understanding that their regular lifestyle that they just return to is what is making them fat, people don't understand that their daily routine is making or keeping them fat, they think they over indulged one Christmas and just have been unlucky in trying to shift the weight, they have no idea that they are keeping that weight on by overeating on a daily basis.

    But that concept can be a little hard to come across in an little blurb for your website/product.

COMMENTS

  • dksolanicus
    35 points Feb 17,2019, 11:33am

    I mean if they're referring to fad and crash diets they're not wrong... If they're saying permanent dietary changes don't work, then they're wrong. I don't think you can really tell by this screenshot which it is.

  • WTender2
    15 points Feb 17,2019, 11:35am

    I can see what they mean. People and companies often say diets don’t work because a diet typically a temporary change that people end and return to old habits when people actually need to make a lifestyle change to keep the weight off.

  • Toast6789
    5 points Feb 17,2019, 12:42pm

    What is this anyways? I think they're trying to provocative for clicks but see plans and pricing so I'd be really surprised if there wasn't some aspect that referred to dietary changes aka a diet.

  • spaghatta111
    6 points Feb 17,2019, 1:30pm

    This really depends on the context. If they’re talking about dieting, as in crash dieting, yeah it won’t work long term

  • ThrowawayBulkCutter
    4 points Feb 17,2019, 12:48pm

    At least they’re saying “what you need to do to lose weight” instead of “why you can never lose weight”, the latter of which I usually see accompanying a “diets don’t work” comment. I’m pretty sure they’re referring to crash diets in this context.

  • not_kathrine
    4 points Feb 17,2019, 2:13pm

    Yeah, some diets don't work. Like those that promise you lose 10 kg in ten days.

  • BlackdogLao
    3 points Feb 17,2019, 1:15pm

    This could very well just be bad wording, why diet's don't work is because people think it's something you do for a short period to lose some weight, not understanding that their regular lifestyle that they just return to is what is making them fat, people don't understand that their daily routine is making or keeping them fat, they think they over indulged one Christmas and just have been unlucky in trying to shift the weight, they have no idea that they are keeping that weight on by overeating on a daily basis.

    But that concept can be a little hard to come across in an little blurb for your website/product.

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5-8 pints of beer can’t be the reason for not losing weight. It must be genetics!

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COMMENTS

  • BlackdogLao
    187 points Feb 15,2019, 6:32am

    most are older so it can't be metabolism.

    that's not how it works.

    you say metabolism, but i think you mean, reduced activity from getting older, less exercise calories and less NEAT calories, lowers your TDEE, so you need to adjust your intake or increase your output.

  • IvanNackarov
    55 points Feb 15,2019, 8:59am

    1 pint of beer = 208 calories (approximately)

    5 x pints = 1,000 calories.

    8 x pints = 1,600 calories.

    But yeah, sure, its probably the genetics mate. /s

  • Iheartempiricism
    133 points Feb 15,2019, 8:01am

    It sounds like excess weight is the least of this person's problems. That is a LOT of alcohol.

    I sometimes have a similar reaction when watching secret eaters. Like yes, ok, calorie math on point and everything, but also, somebody think about having a talk about the binge drinking in and of itself, because it's really bad. And everyone is just there cheerfully talking about how to get slimmer as if it's not insane to drink that much on a regular basis, sometimes all alone in your apartment.

  • I_Bleed_Sausage
    17 points Feb 15,2019, 9:42am

    Fat people don't realize the simplest and most obvious trick to losing weight is to start drinking more water and drink less alcohol. Watch as you magically eliminate 3,000 liquid calories from your diet.

  • Lildizzle
    9 points Feb 15,2019, 12:23pm

    When I was in rehab, the other alcoholics and I all noticed that we started eating/craving a lot more sweets than we used to eat. We wanted to replace all those empty carbs we weren't allowed to drink anymore. If you "can't" lose weight when you quit drinking, it's because you're compensating with food, whether you realize it or not.

  • Davies92
    18 points Feb 15,2019, 7:06am

    I'm enjoying a salad and a glass of wine right now.

    On track to shifting a couple pounds.

  • Mathysphere
    15 points Feb 15,2019, 8:37am

    Good freaking god, my bladder aches just reading that. Assuming beer is 180-200 calories a pint, that could be an entire’s day worth of calories in one binge.

  • ShakoraDrake
    6 points Feb 15,2019, 11:03am

    My Fiance's birthday was yesterday so he had a couple drinks last night, around 5.5 fl oz of vodka total. 450 calories, not counting mixers. This was a 'conservative' amount of alcohol mind you, just two drinks. Meanwhile the chili we had for supper yesterday including brown rice, and toppings of light cheddar and greek yogurt, added up to 360 calories.

    With alcohol often times you're drinking well over a meal's worth of calories, with none of the protein, fiber or volume of a proper meal; so of course you still want some actual food on top of all that alcohol.

    This is what makes people overweight with drinking. If everyone cut back on calories earlier in the day to account for the alcohol, then it wouldn't be as much of an issue. People don't tend to do this, (even eating more due to drunk munchies or greasy hangover cures) so it's no freaking wonder people gain weight. But suuuure, it's just genetics!

  • PDNYFL
    6 points Feb 15,2019, 10:05am

    I'm a pretty big craft beer guy but I've cut back a lot in the past 6 months due to the sheer number of calories I was drinking. Even if you're having only 2 beers a night that adds up over the course of a week.

  • MalfeasantMarmot
    9 points Feb 15,2019, 10:00am

    Yeah it's not the beer at all. I've lost 60lbs since I quit drinking.

  • BigAbbott
    4 points Feb 15,2019, 11:49am

    I too refer to rumors exclusively when making major health decisions.

  • RicochetChez
    4 points Feb 15,2019, 12:44pm

    The comparing yourself to your friends diet thing will always have you falling victim to inaccurate sampling unless you follow that person around for a week.

    Years ago I used to have a standing girls night where we would get together and eat a lot at a fancy place and knock back glasses of wine. I discovered one of the girls was pouting about her slow metabolism because “look at how much Ricochet eats and doesn’t gain!”

    I made a point to tell her I didn’t eat breakfast or lunch on Thursday’s so could absorb the calories from a night out. I don’t have a magical ability to not process kimchi fries sorry.

  • Alldawaytoswiffty
    3 points Feb 15,2019, 10:19am

    Ive never beena heavy fella, but when I was drinking hard I got kinda chuby and was up to 195 from 170. I quit drinking all together and I went back to my weight in a few months.

  • hardy_and_free
    7 points Feb 15,2019, 9:44am

    As an American, that's a terrifying amount. I'd be under the table, even if it were pints of Bud Light (my skin just crawled typing "pint of Bud Light," felt very wrong). I'm guessing this is someone in the UK, Ireland or one of our antipodean brethren?

  • NegativeKarmaSponge
    2 points Feb 15,2019, 3:28pm

    Secret Eaters S1E1

    17 pints a week!

  • reckless-man
    2 points Feb 15,2019, 3:29pm

    Guy who drank a 5th a night for 3+ years reporting in. When I finally got the help I needed to quit... It was amazing how fast the pounds started to fall off.

  • StreptococcalSpine
    1 points Feb 15,2019, 11:42am

    5-8 beers is a ton of calories. Probably anywhere from 450-1600 calories. That doesn't even include the food from beer munchies.

  • Midwest_Product
    1 points Feb 15,2019, 12:01pm

    I heard a rumour

    Well, that settles it. No further investigation needed, this is obviously the truth and we should all just accept it as such.

  • Kyuuma
    1 points Feb 15,2019, 12:08pm

    Craft beer in particular can wreck havoc on any diet, most of these cocoa nib + sweet adjunct stouts are extremely high in calories, as are most IPAs and the recent craze of hazy IPAs, milkshake IPAs, and other beers that on average are 300+ calories per pint.

    I'm back to training and running so I stopped drinking all together with the exception of maybe having a half a pint if I'm out with friends every month or so. After I had a high ankle sprain injury it was very quickly noticeable that if I continued to drink like I did I was gaining weight more than I liked. I don't eat or snack much so I knew it all came from beer and a poor/non-existent training plan so I knew it was time to shut it down and get serious again for my health and because I'm one of those crazy people who actually enjoys running and being active.

  • fourthwallcrisis
    1 points Feb 15,2019, 2:23pm

    That's a shit load of beer, and beer is very high on the list of crap that makes you fat. Jesus.

  • DJ_Molten_Lava
    1 points Feb 15,2019, 2:52pm

    I'm a person who doesn't drink regularly but would tend to binge on a weekend day, say Friday or Saturday. Not usually both. So one day a week I might have drank 10+ beers. Guess what happened? I got fat.

  • seekingindependence
    1 points Feb 15,2019, 5:04pm

    Is this satire?

  • kVIIIwithan8
    1 points Feb 15,2019, 11:27am

    Can we talk about how that's a crazy amount to drink? I'm in my late 20s and I didn't really grow up in a "drinking culture". I legit can't imagine having more than maybe 2 glasses wine--i get wrecked and need a nap after that, not to mention any more than that is a HUGE calorie sacrifice that I could have put towards pizza. Also, Jesus the liver damage. Does this OP not want to live??

COMMENTS

  • BlackdogLao
    187 points Feb 15,2019, 6:32am

    most are older so it can't be metabolism.

    that's not how it works.

    you say metabolism, but i think you mean, reduced activity from getting older, less exercise calories and less NEAT calories, lowers your TDEE, so you need to adjust your intake or increase your output.

  • IvanNackarov
    55 points Feb 15,2019, 8:59am

    1 pint of beer = 208 calories (approximately)

    5 x pints = 1,000 calories.

    8 x pints = 1,600 calories.

    But yeah, sure, its probably the genetics mate. /s

  • Iheartempiricism
    133 points Feb 15,2019, 8:01am

    It sounds like excess weight is the least of this person's problems. That is a LOT of alcohol.

    I sometimes have a similar reaction when watching secret eaters. Like yes, ok, calorie math on point and everything, but also, somebody think about having a talk about the binge drinking in and of itself, because it's really bad. And everyone is just there cheerfully talking about how to get slimmer as if it's not insane to drink that much on a regular basis, sometimes all alone in your apartment.

  • murderboxsocial
    28 points Feb 15,2019, 9:05am

    If you switched from light beer in college to some of the more calorie heavy micro brews that are around as you got older, it is entirely possible for the 8 pints this person claims to drink now actually would have more calories.

  • I_Bleed_Sausage
    17 points Feb 15,2019, 9:42am

    Fat people don't realize the simplest and most obvious trick to losing weight is to start drinking more water and drink less alcohol. Watch as you magically eliminate 3,000 liquid calories from your diet.

  • Lildizzle
    9 points Feb 15,2019, 12:23pm

    When I was in rehab, the other alcoholics and I all noticed that we started eating/craving a lot more sweets than we used to eat. We wanted to replace all those empty carbs we weren't allowed to drink anymore. If you "can't" lose weight when you quit drinking, it's because you're compensating with food, whether you realize it or not.

  • Davies92
    18 points Feb 15,2019, 7:06am

    I'm enjoying a salad and a glass of wine right now.

    On track to shifting a couple pounds.

  • Mathysphere
    15 points Feb 15,2019, 8:37am

    Good freaking god, my bladder aches just reading that. Assuming beer is 180-200 calories a pint, that could be an entire’s day worth of calories in one binge.

  • ShakoraDrake
    6 points Feb 15,2019, 11:03am

    My Fiance's birthday was yesterday so he had a couple drinks last night, around 5.5 fl oz of vodka total. 450 calories, not counting mixers. This was a 'conservative' amount of alcohol mind you, just two drinks. Meanwhile the chili we had for supper yesterday including brown rice, and toppings of light cheddar and greek yogurt, added up to 360 calories.

    With alcohol often times you're drinking well over a meal's worth of calories, with none of the protein, fiber or volume of a proper meal; so of course you still want some actual food on top of all that alcohol.

    This is what makes people overweight with drinking. If everyone cut back on calories earlier in the day to account for the alcohol, then it wouldn't be as much of an issue. People don't tend to do this, (even eating more due to drunk munchies or greasy hangover cures) so it's no freaking wonder people gain weight. But suuuure, it's just genetics!

  • PDNYFL
    6 points Feb 15,2019, 10:05am

    I'm a pretty big craft beer guy but I've cut back a lot in the past 6 months due to the sheer number of calories I was drinking. Even if you're having only 2 beers a night that adds up over the course of a week.

  • MalfeasantMarmot
    9 points Feb 15,2019, 10:00am

    Yeah it's not the beer at all. I've lost 60lbs since I quit drinking.

  • BigAbbott
    4 points Feb 15,2019, 11:49am

    I too refer to rumors exclusively when making major health decisions.

  • RicochetChez
    4 points Feb 15,2019, 12:44pm

    The comparing yourself to your friends diet thing will always have you falling victim to inaccurate sampling unless you follow that person around for a week.

    Years ago I used to have a standing girls night where we would get together and eat a lot at a fancy place and knock back glasses of wine. I discovered one of the girls was pouting about her slow metabolism because “look at how much Ricochet eats and doesn’t gain!”

    I made a point to tell her I didn’t eat breakfast or lunch on Thursday’s so could absorb the calories from a night out. I don’t have a magical ability to not process kimchi fries sorry.

  • Alldawaytoswiffty
    3 points Feb 15,2019, 10:19am

    Ive never beena heavy fella, but when I was drinking hard I got kinda chuby and was up to 195 from 170. I quit drinking all together and I went back to my weight in a few months.

  • hardy_and_free
    7 points Feb 15,2019, 9:44am

    As an American, that's a terrifying amount. I'd be under the table, even if it were pints of Bud Light (my skin just crawled typing "pint of Bud Light," felt very wrong). I'm guessing this is someone in the UK, Ireland or one of our antipodean brethren?

  • NegativeKarmaSponge
    2 points Feb 15,2019, 3:28pm

    Secret Eaters S1E1

    17 pints a week!

  • reckless-man
    2 points Feb 15,2019, 3:29pm

    Guy who drank a 5th a night for 3+ years reporting in. When I finally got the help I needed to quit... It was amazing how fast the pounds started to fall off.

  • StreptococcalSpine
    1 points Feb 15,2019, 11:42am

    5-8 beers is a ton of calories. Probably anywhere from 450-1600 calories. That doesn't even include the food from beer munchies.

  • Midwest_Product
    1 points Feb 15,2019, 12:01pm

    I heard a rumour

    Well, that settles it. No further investigation needed, this is obviously the truth and we should all just accept it as such.

  • Kyuuma
    1 points Feb 15,2019, 12:08pm

    Craft beer in particular can wreck havoc on any diet, most of these cocoa nib + sweet adjunct stouts are extremely high in calories, as are most IPAs and the recent craze of hazy IPAs, milkshake IPAs, and other beers that on average are 300+ calories per pint.

    I'm back to training and running so I stopped drinking all together with the exception of maybe having a half a pint if I'm out with friends every month or so. After I had a high ankle sprain injury it was very quickly noticeable that if I continued to drink like I did I was gaining weight more than I liked. I don't eat or snack much so I knew it all came from beer and a poor/non-existent training plan so I knew it was time to shut it down and get serious again for my health and because I'm one of those crazy people who actually enjoys running and being active.

  • fourthwallcrisis
    1 points Feb 15,2019, 2:23pm

    That's a shit load of beer, and beer is very high on the list of crap that makes you fat. Jesus.

  • DJ_Molten_Lava
    1 points Feb 15,2019, 2:52pm

    I'm a person who doesn't drink regularly but would tend to binge on a weekend day, say Friday or Saturday. Not usually both. So one day a week I might have drank 10+ beers. Guess what happened? I got fat.

  • seekingindependence
    1 points Feb 15,2019, 5:04pm

    Is this satire?

  • kVIIIwithan8
    1 points Feb 15,2019, 11:27am

    Can we talk about how that's a crazy amount to drink? I'm in my late 20s and I didn't really grow up in a "drinking culture". I legit can't imagine having more than maybe 2 glasses wine--i get wrecked and need a nap after that, not to mention any more than that is a HUGE calorie sacrifice that I could have put towards pizza. Also, Jesus the liver damage. Does this OP not want to live??

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  • pmotiveforce
    293 points Feb 13,2019, 11:45pm

    I'll take "made up shit" for $400, Alex. Also it amuses me these fucking dolts can't even make up self-serving claptrap very well. Let's see, if I gained 9% body weight over four weeks, that would be 20 pounds. In a month. That's a lot of weight.

    Poster should have made up better numbers like "none of them could get past .05% weight gain in 2 years of eating 5000 calories a day while being mostly sedentary" or something.

  • Kosmic_Kraken
    81 points Feb 14,2019, 6:07am

    I think I saw a video about this once. It sounds really similar. they forced a bunch of skinny people to sit in a house eating double the amount of calories they need. They all did gain weight. Some gained quite a bit. One dude did put on (minimal) muscle and fat but he could have been exercising on the sly. Cant remember.

    After the experiment, they all the dropped the weight when they went back to normal eating habits.

    I distinctly remember one dude saying how sick he felt eating that much. It was hard for them.

    That's the real answer. It isn't magic, these were people who disliked overeating. That's why they were skinny.

    The video itself might have been full of fatlogic by the producers. Once again, I cant remember. But anyone who knows anything about the human body can understand what's going on.

  • 06210311
    39 points Feb 13,2019, 11:27pm

    OK, anon, what study? Anon? Anon? Where did you go?!

  • Hyndis
    38 points Feb 14,2019, 3:09am

    Yes and no.

    Food has always been scarce. For life's 4+ billion year existence food has been scarce. Consuming as much food as possible when its available in order to store energy for the inevitable famine was and still is a fantastic survival strategy. Famine was part of life (and a lot of death) for the last 4+ billion years.

    Only withing living memory has too much food become a problem. There are people still alive today who remember being hungry. Americans even. Starvation was a real threat. People who lived through the Great Depression has a very different view of food. Food is something that can all of a sudden go away.

    Really it was only since the 1970's and 1980's that obesity started to become a thing. Thats not all that long ago. The problem is our caveman brains and instincts created and honed over 4 billion years of evolution work against us. Developed countries have solved food shortages. Now, hundreds of millions of tons of food rots every year because there's so much we can't eat it all, and not for lack of effort.

    The rapidly rising obesity rates in all developed nations are a concern. There's something fundamentally incompatible about our biological craving for high quality, energy dense food and how readily available food is. It made a lot of sense to stuff your face when your next meal might be a week away. Thats no longer the case. If it was just one obese person than maybe its just that one person, but when a third or half of a country is overweight there's a problem. Hundreds of millions of overweight or obese people is a societal problem. I do not have a solution for this very difficult problem.

    That said, expending more energy than you consume makes you smaller. Consuming more energy than you expend makes you bigger. Thats a fact. Thats a law of physics. Anyone who does otherwise is either a liar or they're an actual wizard who can violate the laws of thermodynamics at will.

    The effects of calorie deficits are well studied and understood: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Starvation_Experiment

  • BlackCaaaaat
    18 points Feb 14,2019, 4:48am

    These days too many people truly don’t know the difference between persistent mild hunger/cravings and actual starvation.

  • jkraft0531
    19 points Feb 14,2019, 2:41am

    I love this mysterious “they” that the person keeps evoking. That’s an automatic cue to dismiss everything said out-of-hand.

  • SRazzie97
    15 points Feb 14,2019, 7:45am

    "The bodies adapted by fidgeting"

    WOWEE

    Are you telling me that MORE ENERGY than people are used to!!! Gives people MORE ENERGY!!! That if they're not able to burn off, makes them RESTLESS!!!

    ScIeNcE iS cRaZy, MaN!

  • Kovitlac
    10 points Feb 14,2019, 3:57am

    How do they come up with this bullshit??

  • Blutarg
    36 points Feb 13,2019, 11:24pm

    Damn, that really shakes everything I believe. Those obese people still felt starved! Wow! Clearly that means there is no point in trying to lose weight! And the guy who figured out how to gain muscle without exercising--I wonder what he did with his Nobel Prize money.

  • PigeonPigeon4
    11 points Feb 14,2019, 8:24am

    9% increase is huge. For me that would be 15 pounds. That would be 1750 calories a day above maintenance. Which isn't far of double.

  • LymeFlavoredKeto
    9 points Feb 14,2019, 8:20am

    I'm putting on muscle as I sit here typing. It's awesome!

  • TechnoPastry
    8 points Feb 14,2019, 9:05am

    They couldn't get past 9% body weight increase in four weeks

    That's actually a ridiculously fast weight gain and proves that calories directly affect how much you weigh so I don't understand her argument.

  • ChemicalPudding
    7 points Feb 14,2019, 7:41am

    where is this study?If this was true the study would be HIGHLY unethical. Also, the results would have made a bigger impact if is was true/half reliable study.

  • gooLoYook
    6 points Feb 14,2019, 8:55am

    It's true, my body wants to be obese... when I see a pizza, I want to eat the whole thing. When I see a bucket of ice cream, I want to eat the whole 2L...

    My body wants to be obese.... but I don't. So I impose portion control and a lot of running on my body.

  • napalmtree13
    5 points Feb 14,2019, 8:27am

    The "study" they're talking about was an episode of some British TV show, or a special on British TV. Yes, one guy (an Asian dude) did put on muscle. He was the anomaly. However, one requisite of the show was that people had to leave if they put on a certain amount of weight.

    Several contestants (because, again...not a study) were kicked out of the house before the end. They lost the weight again quickly because (unlike people who eat themselves into being overweight or obese) they actually ARE capable of intuitive eating. Once they went back to eating normally, they lost the weight.

    I can't find this special anymore, sadly. I watched it on YouTube a long time ago. It was really interesting, but definitely made for entertainment. It was as much a "study" as Secret Eaters or Supersize VS Superskinny.

  • ostentia
    5 points Feb 14,2019, 9:20am

    I love how they say “none of them could get past 9% body weight gain” as if that’s some completely insignificant amount of weight to gain in a month. That’s 15 pounds at my current weight! 15 pounds, in a month. You’d have to eat 52,500 extra calories to put on that much weight in one month. That’s insane!

  • concentrationcampy
    5 points Feb 14,2019, 10:07am

    I go somewhere between 175 and 180. 9% of bodyweight would be 16 lbs. in a month.

    That's a huge amount.

  • sakasiru
    5 points Feb 14,2019, 8:40am

    So you are telling me people felt like shit when they ate more than they wanted and returned to their old eating habits when the study was done? Color me surprised (or maybe not).

    Also, "could not get past 9% body weight increase" in 4 weeks: I'd have to more than double my caloric intake to gain that much in 4 weeks. What do you expect they did, stuff them like geese? Or people balooning up just because they ate an additional burger? This post really shows that they have no idea how weight gain and weight loss works.

  • ilivetofly
    4 points Feb 14,2019, 9:27am

    It's not totally wrong people who have been obese in the past generally will be more hungry and more predisposed to gaining weight in the future.

    Which is why it is super important for kids to not be obese and for adults to keep their weight in healthy ranges. Loosing weight is hard but even once you have maintaining it is perhaps harder. The idea that it's some magical need to be fat or whatever is silly. Plus it's bad to make people of a healthy weight become obese since it can lead to lifelong complications. Any study on weight gain must factor this in. 9% is still a big percent.

  • nookienostradamus
    3 points Feb 14,2019, 9:50am

    I, too, puke when I'm forced to eager too much. #introvertproblems

  • concentrationcampy
    3 points Feb 14,2019, 10:05am

    "They did a study"

    Meaning the voices in your head?

  • MrGreenIguanadon
    3 points Feb 14,2019, 10:39am

    Eeeeeven if this were real... Do the math. At 133 my maintenance calories are about 1600. If I ate double that for 4 weeks, I'd gain ~12 lbs. Which is ~9% of my current body weight. Did she expect them to gain more than that (if this is a study that actually happened)? That's not them being unable to gain beyond 9%... That's gaining the appropriate amount for doubling your eating in 4 weeks.

  • geologean
    3 points Feb 14,2019, 1:44pm

    A 9% weight increase in 4 weeks is gigantic. What the fuck is with this person acting like it's not?

    Also, cite your fucking sources. "They" is not a helpful author search term.

  • kdris_
    3 points Feb 14,2019, 2:43pm

    9% weight increase in 4 weeks is HUGE. Wtf.

  • Chicup
    2 points Feb 14,2019, 10:32am

    My body wants to be obese, based on my appetite.

    My body is an asshole.

  • UnnecessaryDairy
    2 points Feb 14,2019, 11:18am

    (I didn't go looking for this, I saw this in its original context elsewhere earlier).

    Because the context here hasn't been clarified, this isn't someone making things up entirely out of wholecloth, it's a summary of a couple videos that were linked upthread of this comment, and then someone requested a TL;DW (which is why this comment starts with TL;DW).

    Is it a bad summary that takes away incorrect conclusions? I don't know, I haven't had a chance to watch the videos that it's summarizing. Clearly there's some issue here either with the original "study" in the videos, or with the interpretation, but this comment in context is not what a lot of the comments here are interpreting it as.

  • sunglasses619
    2 points Feb 14,2019, 11:27am

    'couldn't get past a 9% increase' in FOUR weeks?! That's tons!

  • glylittleduckling
    1 points Feb 14,2019, 11:18am

    I did reply to this post when I saw it (before seeing it here) sorry to the mods for 'touching the poop ' do you need me to delete that comment?

  • Belligerent_Goat
    1 points Feb 14,2019, 1:34pm

    The guy putting on muscle was probably a warehouse worker or a lumberjack.

  • TakeaChillPillWill
    1 points Feb 14,2019, 3:40pm

    "One guy put on muscle for no reason." Fuck you.

  • blah9871
    1 points Feb 14,2019, 7:21pm

    feeling starved 2 years later and brain imagery confirmed this

    TIL we can detect starvation through brain scans.

  • forethoughtless
    1 points Feb 14,2019, 9:44am

    My interpretation was that they were discussing how we may have different patterns of satiation/hunger and different eating tendencies (browsing/snacking constantly, OMAD, etc). So figuring out how to work with disordered eating means understanding how your body tends to deal with this stuff. Someone else wrote a more informative overview of the video in question that focused more on using it to realize what your habits are (that may be somewhat biological in nature - namely stuff like whether you can do the OMAD type of thing or if you tend to constantly snack/never feel satisfied) and use that knowledge to "work with" disordered eating patterns vs trying to overthrow the whole system and being discouraged when it is incredibly difficult to maintain.

    Edited to remove info that might lead to the source of the screenshot. Also the bit where I said it was disingenuous to post this for karma because OP made good points and I want to add from the discussion vs detract from it.

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  • pmotiveforce
    293 points Feb 13,2019, 11:45pm

    I'll take "made up shit" for $400, Alex. Also it amuses me these fucking dolts can't even make up self-serving claptrap very well. Let's see, if I gained 9% body weight over four weeks, that would be 20 pounds. In a month. That's a lot of weight.

    Poster should have made up better numbers like "none of them could get past .05% weight gain in 2 years of eating 5000 calories a day while being mostly sedentary" or something.

  • Kosmic_Kraken
    81 points Feb 14,2019, 6:07am

    I think I saw a video about this once. It sounds really similar. they forced a bunch of skinny people to sit in a house eating double the amount of calories they need. They all did gain weight. Some gained quite a bit. One dude did put on (minimal) muscle and fat but he could have been exercising on the sly. Cant remember.

    After the experiment, they all the dropped the weight when they went back to normal eating habits.

    I distinctly remember one dude saying how sick he felt eating that much. It was hard for them.

    That's the real answer. It isn't magic, these were people who disliked overeating. That's why they were skinny.

    The video itself might have been full of fatlogic by the producers. Once again, I cant remember. But anyone who knows anything about the human body can understand what's going on.

  • 06210311
    39 points Feb 13,2019, 11:27pm

    OK, anon, what study? Anon? Anon? Where did you go?!

  • Jellorage
    72 points Feb 14,2019, 2:31am

    One guy put on muscles despite not exercising

    I hate when that happens.

  • Hyndis
    38 points Feb 14,2019, 3:09am

    Yes and no.

    Food has always been scarce. For life's 4+ billion year existence food has been scarce. Consuming as much food as possible when its available in order to store energy for the inevitable famine was and still is a fantastic survival strategy. Famine was part of life (and a lot of death) for the last 4+ billion years.

    Only withing living memory has too much food become a problem. There are people still alive today who remember being hungry. Americans even. Starvation was a real threat. People who lived through the Great Depression has a very different view of food. Food is something that can all of a sudden go away.

    Really it was only since the 1970's and 1980's that obesity started to become a thing. Thats not all that long ago. The problem is our caveman brains and instincts created and honed over 4 billion years of evolution work against us. Developed countries have solved food shortages. Now, hundreds of millions of tons of food rots every year because there's so much we can't eat it all, and not for lack of effort.

    The rapidly rising obesity rates in all developed nations are a concern. There's something fundamentally incompatible about our biological craving for high quality, energy dense food and how readily available food is. It made a lot of sense to stuff your face when your next meal might be a week away. Thats no longer the case. If it was just one obese person than maybe its just that one person, but when a third or half of a country is overweight there's a problem. Hundreds of millions of overweight or obese people is a societal problem. I do not have a solution for this very difficult problem.

    That said, expending more energy than you consume makes you smaller. Consuming more energy than you expend makes you bigger. Thats a fact. Thats a law of physics. Anyone who does otherwise is either a liar or they're an actual wizard who can violate the laws of thermodynamics at will.

    The effects of calorie deficits are well studied and understood: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Starvation_Experiment

  • BlackCaaaaat
    18 points Feb 14,2019, 4:48am

    These days too many people truly don’t know the difference between persistent mild hunger/cravings and actual starvation.

  • jkraft0531
    19 points Feb 14,2019, 2:41am

    I love this mysterious “they” that the person keeps evoking. That’s an automatic cue to dismiss everything said out-of-hand.

  • SRazzie97
    15 points Feb 14,2019, 7:45am

    "The bodies adapted by fidgeting"

    WOWEE

    Are you telling me that MORE ENERGY than people are used to!!! Gives people MORE ENERGY!!! That if they're not able to burn off, makes them RESTLESS!!!

    ScIeNcE iS cRaZy, MaN!

  • Kovitlac
    10 points Feb 14,2019, 3:57am

    How do they come up with this bullshit??

  • Blutarg
    36 points Feb 13,2019, 11:24pm

    Damn, that really shakes everything I believe. Those obese people still felt starved! Wow! Clearly that means there is no point in trying to lose weight! And the guy who figured out how to gain muscle without exercising--I wonder what he did with his Nobel Prize money.

  • PigeonPigeon4
    11 points Feb 14,2019, 8:24am

    9% increase is huge. For me that would be 15 pounds. That would be 1750 calories a day above maintenance. Which isn't far of double.

  • LymeFlavoredKeto
    9 points Feb 14,2019, 8:20am

    I'm putting on muscle as I sit here typing. It's awesome!

  • TechnoPastry
    8 points Feb 14,2019, 9:05am

    They couldn't get past 9% body weight increase in four weeks

    That's actually a ridiculously fast weight gain and proves that calories directly affect how much you weigh so I don't understand her argument.

  • ChemicalPudding
    7 points Feb 14,2019, 7:41am

    where is this study?If this was true the study would be HIGHLY unethical. Also, the results would have made a bigger impact if is was true/half reliable study.

  • gooLoYook
    6 points Feb 14,2019, 8:55am

    It's true, my body wants to be obese... when I see a pizza, I want to eat the whole thing. When I see a bucket of ice cream, I want to eat the whole 2L...

    My body wants to be obese.... but I don't. So I impose portion control and a lot of running on my body.

  • napalmtree13
    5 points Feb 14,2019, 8:27am

    The "study" they're talking about was an episode of some British TV show, or a special on British TV. Yes, one guy (an Asian dude) did put on muscle. He was the anomaly. However, one requisite of the show was that people had to leave if they put on a certain amount of weight.

    Several contestants (because, again...not a study) were kicked out of the house before the end. They lost the weight again quickly because (unlike people who eat themselves into being overweight or obese) they actually ARE capable of intuitive eating. Once they went back to eating normally, they lost the weight.

    I can't find this special anymore, sadly. I watched it on YouTube a long time ago. It was really interesting, but definitely made for entertainment. It was as much a "study" as Secret Eaters or Supersize VS Superskinny.

  • ostentia
    5 points Feb 14,2019, 9:20am

    I love how they say “none of them could get past 9% body weight gain” as if that’s some completely insignificant amount of weight to gain in a month. That’s 15 pounds at my current weight! 15 pounds, in a month. You’d have to eat 52,500 extra calories to put on that much weight in one month. That’s insane!

  • concentrationcampy
    5 points Feb 14,2019, 10:07am

    I go somewhere between 175 and 180. 9% of bodyweight would be 16 lbs. in a month.

    That's a huge amount.

  • sakasiru
    5 points Feb 14,2019, 8:40am

    So you are telling me people felt like shit when they ate more than they wanted and returned to their old eating habits when the study was done? Color me surprised (or maybe not).

    Also, "could not get past 9% body weight increase" in 4 weeks: I'd have to more than double my caloric intake to gain that much in 4 weeks. What do you expect they did, stuff them like geese? Or people balooning up just because they ate an additional burger? This post really shows that they have no idea how weight gain and weight loss works.

  • ilivetofly
    4 points Feb 14,2019, 9:27am

    It's not totally wrong people who have been obese in the past generally will be more hungry and more predisposed to gaining weight in the future.

    Which is why it is super important for kids to not be obese and for adults to keep their weight in healthy ranges. Loosing weight is hard but even once you have maintaining it is perhaps harder. The idea that it's some magical need to be fat or whatever is silly. Plus it's bad to make people of a healthy weight become obese since it can lead to lifelong complications. Any study on weight gain must factor this in. 9% is still a big percent.

  • nookienostradamus
    3 points Feb 14,2019, 9:50am

    I, too, puke when I'm forced to eager too much. #introvertproblems

  • concentrationcampy
    3 points Feb 14,2019, 10:05am

    "They did a study"

    Meaning the voices in your head?

  • MrGreenIguanadon
    3 points Feb 14,2019, 10:39am

    Eeeeeven if this were real... Do the math. At 133 my maintenance calories are about 1600. If I ate double that for 4 weeks, I'd gain ~12 lbs. Which is ~9% of my current body weight. Did she expect them to gain more than that (if this is a study that actually happened)? That's not them being unable to gain beyond 9%... That's gaining the appropriate amount for doubling your eating in 4 weeks.

  • geologean
    3 points Feb 14,2019, 1:44pm

    A 9% weight increase in 4 weeks is gigantic. What the fuck is with this person acting like it's not?

    Also, cite your fucking sources. "They" is not a helpful author search term.

  • kdris_
    3 points Feb 14,2019, 2:43pm

    9% weight increase in 4 weeks is HUGE. Wtf.

  • Chicup
    2 points Feb 14,2019, 10:32am

    My body wants to be obese, based on my appetite.

    My body is an asshole.

  • UnnecessaryDairy
    2 points Feb 14,2019, 11:18am

    (I didn't go looking for this, I saw this in its original context elsewhere earlier).

    Because the context here hasn't been clarified, this isn't someone making things up entirely out of wholecloth, it's a summary of a couple videos that were linked upthread of this comment, and then someone requested a TL;DW (which is why this comment starts with TL;DW).

    Is it a bad summary that takes away incorrect conclusions? I don't know, I haven't had a chance to watch the videos that it's summarizing. Clearly there's some issue here either with the original "study" in the videos, or with the interpretation, but this comment in context is not what a lot of the comments here are interpreting it as.

  • sunglasses619
    2 points Feb 14,2019, 11:27am

    'couldn't get past a 9% increase' in FOUR weeks?! That's tons!

  • glylittleduckling
    1 points Feb 14,2019, 11:18am

    I did reply to this post when I saw it (before seeing it here) sorry to the mods for 'touching the poop ' do you need me to delete that comment?

  • Belligerent_Goat
    1 points Feb 14,2019, 1:34pm

    The guy putting on muscle was probably a warehouse worker or a lumberjack.

  • TakeaChillPillWill
    1 points Feb 14,2019, 3:40pm

    "One guy put on muscle for no reason." Fuck you.

  • blah9871
    1 points Feb 14,2019, 7:21pm

    feeling starved 2 years later and brain imagery confirmed this

    TIL we can detect starvation through brain scans.

  • forethoughtless
    1 points Feb 14,2019, 9:44am

    My interpretation was that they were discussing how we may have different patterns of satiation/hunger and different eating tendencies (browsing/snacking constantly, OMAD, etc). So figuring out how to work with disordered eating means understanding how your body tends to deal with this stuff. Someone else wrote a more informative overview of the video in question that focused more on using it to realize what your habits are (that may be somewhat biological in nature - namely stuff like whether you can do the OMAD type of thing or if you tend to constantly snack/never feel satisfied) and use that knowledge to "work with" disordered eating patterns vs trying to overthrow the whole system and being discouraged when it is incredibly difficult to maintain.

    Edited to remove info that might lead to the source of the screenshot. Also the bit where I said it was disingenuous to post this for karma because OP made good points and I want to add from the discussion vs detract from it.

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  • CheerfulErrand
    1 points Feb 12,2019, 6:59pm

    *shrug*

    I think the evidence for the impact of gut bacteria on weight and overall health is pretty dramatic, as shown through many studies. I mean, they mostly affect appetite, so it's still down to calories, but that's a big deal for most people.

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  • CheerfulErrand
    1 points Feb 12,2019, 6:59pm

    *shrug*

    I think the evidence for the impact of gut bacteria on weight and overall health is pretty dramatic, as shown through many studies. I mean, they mostly affect appetite, so it's still down to calories, but that's a big deal for most people.

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And she got kicked from the HAES group for this sanity...

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  • Carefreealex
    85 points Feb 12,2019, 5:41pm

    Don’t interrupt my safe place with reason and logic!

  • calcaneus
    52 points Feb 12,2019, 5:34pm

    Good for her. Reminds me a bit of Plant Fatness's claim to be a "Judgement Free Zone" and yet it was created out of judgment of people who are serious weight lifters.

  • frqntlylost
    1 points Feb 12,2019, 7:24pm

    Oh Jesus f**king Christ.This shit makes me so mad.

    When I first learned of haes I thought I'd found my tribe. Because I have been some variety of fat all my life, and I was diagnosed with MS nearly 8 years ago and subsequently with fibromyalgia and arthritis... But I'm also god-damned passionate about pursuing fitness and wellness to the absolute extent of my ability, whatever challenges my body throws at me. And I thought that was what haes was about- divorcing health and fitness activities from weight and size, and yet making them a priority in your life.

    Boy was I fucking wrong.If you don't want to move your ass and eat intelligently, you're 'doing self care' and 'nourishing your mental health.' There's an excuse for copping out of everything, and Lord help you if you tell them any different!!

    I'm still fat and working on it. I still have health challenges. But I'm a qualified personal trainer now and I train average women like myself every day to really, actually be healthy at their particular size. I feel like I'm doing REAL haes but I've scrubbed every last mention of haes from anything I do, say or write because I actually hold myself and others accountable for their choices and decisions and that apparently makes me a hater. 🙄😫😂

    Oh dear. Thanks for letting me rant. Obviously needed that off my chest.

  • Jules6146
    1 points Feb 12,2019, 7:35pm

    As the saying goes, respect must be commanded, not demanded.

COMMENTS

  • Carefreealex
    85 points Feb 12,2019, 5:41pm

    Don’t interrupt my safe place with reason and logic!

  • calcaneus
    52 points Feb 12,2019, 5:34pm

    Good for her. Reminds me a bit of Plant Fatness's claim to be a "Judgement Free Zone" and yet it was created out of judgment of people who are serious weight lifters.

  • frqntlylost
    1 points Feb 12,2019, 7:24pm

    Oh Jesus f**king Christ.This shit makes me so mad.

    When I first learned of haes I thought I'd found my tribe. Because I have been some variety of fat all my life, and I was diagnosed with MS nearly 8 years ago and subsequently with fibromyalgia and arthritis... But I'm also god-damned passionate about pursuing fitness and wellness to the absolute extent of my ability, whatever challenges my body throws at me. And I thought that was what haes was about- divorcing health and fitness activities from weight and size, and yet making them a priority in your life.

    Boy was I fucking wrong.If you don't want to move your ass and eat intelligently, you're 'doing self care' and 'nourishing your mental health.' There's an excuse for copping out of everything, and Lord help you if you tell them any different!!

    I'm still fat and working on it. I still have health challenges. But I'm a qualified personal trainer now and I train average women like myself every day to really, actually be healthy at their particular size. I feel like I'm doing REAL haes but I've scrubbed every last mention of haes from anything I do, say or write because I actually hold myself and others accountable for their choices and decisions and that apparently makes me a hater. 🙄😫😂

    Oh dear. Thanks for letting me rant. Obviously needed that off my chest.

  • sarahluv73
    1 points Feb 12,2019, 6:23pm

    Preach 🙌

  • Jules6146
    1 points Feb 12,2019, 7:35pm

    As the saying goes, respect must be commanded, not demanded.

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They’re all so good at hiding it though

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COMMENTS

  • bowlineonabight
    42 points Feb 11,2019, 5:04pm

    Is church really where you need to be ripping into a bag of chips? There isn't some more appropriate venue for that?

  • bookhermit
    17 points Feb 11,2019, 5:53pm

    I would be mortified if my SO was so insecure about other people's opinion of our relationship that they had to make shitty memes about it on Facebook.

    Like, am I so out of your league that you are worried that people talk!? Yuck.

  • Blutarg
    10 points Feb 11,2019, 5:31pm

    Honestly, I don't. Sorry!

  • charleybradburies
    1 points Feb 11,2019, 6:44pm

    If you think your desire for snack foods is more important than being a respectful member of your church, you shouldn't be there anyway, and I guarantee most of the adults at that church would much rather you leave. Talk about delusion and disrespect. Maybe some people are actually there because it's their place of worship, imagine that. Although I guess if you can't imagine waiting an hour to eat, you don't have a fantastic imagination.

  • HAES_al_ghul
    2 points Feb 11,2019, 5:59pm

    Ban for dehumanizing language.

  • one_excited_guy
    1 points Feb 11,2019, 6:49pm

    great strategy for deluding yourself into thinking youre always right, just assume everyone else is secretly super jelly of your smart decision making

  • emanserueuqinu
    1 points Feb 11,2019, 7:18pm

    Mmmm, I think the comparison would be a little more accurate if the bag of chips went on the internet and blasted "YEAH HE'S EATING ME IN CHURCH!! YOU WISH YOU WERE ME!! MAYBE IF YOU PRAY HARD ENOUGH, THE LORD WILL BLESS YOU WITH SOME CHIPS OF YOUR OWN!!"

    But since I'm not sure whether they meant fries or crisps, I'm not certain how salty the reaction is supposed to be.

COMMENTS

  • bowlineonabight
    42 points Feb 11,2019, 5:04pm

    Is church really where you need to be ripping into a bag of chips? There isn't some more appropriate venue for that?

  • bookhermit
    17 points Feb 11,2019, 5:53pm

    I would be mortified if my SO was so insecure about other people's opinion of our relationship that they had to make shitty memes about it on Facebook.

    Like, am I so out of your league that you are worried that people talk!? Yuck.

  • Blutarg
    10 points Feb 11,2019, 5:31pm

    Honestly, I don't. Sorry!

  • bearybear90
    9 points Feb 11,2019, 5:46pm

    Could the same be said about fat men?

  • charleybradburies
    1 points Feb 11,2019, 6:44pm

    If you think your desire for snack foods is more important than being a respectful member of your church, you shouldn't be there anyway, and I guarantee most of the adults at that church would much rather you leave. Talk about delusion and disrespect. Maybe some people are actually there because it's their place of worship, imagine that. Although I guess if you can't imagine waiting an hour to eat, you don't have a fantastic imagination.

  • HAES_al_ghul
    2 points Feb 11,2019, 5:59pm

    Ban for dehumanizing language.

  • one_excited_guy
    1 points Feb 11,2019, 6:49pm

    great strategy for deluding yourself into thinking youre always right, just assume everyone else is secretly super jelly of your smart decision making

  • emanserueuqinu
    1 points Feb 11,2019, 7:18pm

    Mmmm, I think the comparison would be a little more accurate if the bag of chips went on the internet and blasted "YEAH HE'S EATING ME IN CHURCH!! YOU WISH YOU WERE ME!! MAYBE IF YOU PRAY HARD ENOUGH, THE LORD WILL BLESS YOU WITH SOME CHIPS OF YOUR OWN!!"

    But since I'm not sure whether they meant fries or crisps, I'm not certain how salty the reaction is supposed to be.

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Hey tall people, this fatlogic is for you!

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  • Blutarg
    66 points Feb 09,2019, 10:19pm

    Yikes, now I'm worried. I'm kind of tall. Better look into this!

    Here's an article titled "Do Tall Guys Die Younger?" And--oh my, look at this:

    The biggest risk factor you have for an early earthly exit is your weight. Samaras says that healthy short people have lower body mass indexes than healthy tall guys, and research has shown a direct correlation between lower BMI and longevity.

    And, well, there's some advice about cutting back on calories to extend one's life. Oops!

  • E39M5S62
    20 points Feb 10,2019, 1:19am

    Ahhh fuck you. My weight was due to bad choices - my height is because of my genetics. Instead of writing bullshit stories on a HAES blog, I changed my diet and started exercising. I'm no longer fat, but oddly enough I'm still tall.

    Get your shit straight and take control of your fucking life.

  • HAES_al_ghul
    13 points Feb 09,2019, 10:11pm

    I feel attacked.

  • rialed
    10 points Feb 09,2019, 11:30pm

    If only there was something we could do about tallness!

  • The_Chubby_Otter
    27 points Feb 09,2019, 10:37pm

    Actually, being taller does correlate with dying sooner. The thought is that your heart has to work harder to pump blood through your body.

  • gracelessvampiress
    5 points Feb 10,2019, 7:53am

    When you're "tall enough", you are likely to die earlier. Humans didn't evolve to be 8' bodybuilders, our hearts and joints and everything are seriously stressed out by being too large in any dimension, including height. Life is like that: not fair. Being a human means dealing with that.

    Height is largely genetic, but not entirely, because nutrition and childhood lifestyle is important too. People have access to enormous amounts of all kinds of food and supplements now, and we don't have to experience brutally hard physical lifestyles as growing children which would stunt growth, so we get taller than earlier times when food was limited and life was harder even for children. It isn't really that far from how we get fatter than people did before, just that just being tall is not nearly so bad as being overweight and unlike being overweight being tall has some considerable advantages too. Like not needing ladders to put on your hat. :P

  • criesinplanestrains
    -1 points Feb 10,2019, 12:45am

    Short privilge is not have CTE from I don't know how many concussions I have had because I am 6 2 which is not exactly freakishly tall.

COMMENTS

  • Blutarg
    66 points Feb 09,2019, 10:19pm

    Yikes, now I'm worried. I'm kind of tall. Better look into this!

    Here's an article titled "Do Tall Guys Die Younger?" And--oh my, look at this:

    The biggest risk factor you have for an early earthly exit is your weight. Samaras says that healthy short people have lower body mass indexes than healthy tall guys, and research has shown a direct correlation between lower BMI and longevity.

    And, well, there's some advice about cutting back on calories to extend one's life. Oops!

  • E39M5S62
    20 points Feb 10,2019, 1:19am

    Ahhh fuck you. My weight was due to bad choices - my height is because of my genetics. Instead of writing bullshit stories on a HAES blog, I changed my diet and started exercising. I'm no longer fat, but oddly enough I'm still tall.

    Get your shit straight and take control of your fucking life.

  • HAES_al_ghul
    13 points Feb 09,2019, 10:11pm

    I feel attacked.

  • envisionandme
    32 points Feb 09,2019, 9:55pm

    Don't tall people die early too?

  • rialed
    10 points Feb 09,2019, 11:30pm

    If only there was something we could do about tallness!

  • The_Chubby_Otter
    27 points Feb 09,2019, 10:37pm

    Actually, being taller does correlate with dying sooner. The thought is that your heart has to work harder to pump blood through your body.

  • gracelessvampiress
    5 points Feb 10,2019, 7:53am

    When you're "tall enough", you are likely to die earlier. Humans didn't evolve to be 8' bodybuilders, our hearts and joints and everything are seriously stressed out by being too large in any dimension, including height. Life is like that: not fair. Being a human means dealing with that.

    Height is largely genetic, but not entirely, because nutrition and childhood lifestyle is important too. People have access to enormous amounts of all kinds of food and supplements now, and we don't have to experience brutally hard physical lifestyles as growing children which would stunt growth, so we get taller than earlier times when food was limited and life was harder even for children. It isn't really that far from how we get fatter than people did before, just that just being tall is not nearly so bad as being overweight and unlike being overweight being tall has some considerable advantages too. Like not needing ladders to put on your hat. :P

  • criesinplanestrains
    -1 points Feb 10,2019, 12:45am

    Short privilge is not have CTE from I don't know how many concussions I have had because I am 6 2 which is not exactly freakishly tall.

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FA: fat people are more than their weight! also FA:

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COMMENTS

  • criesinplanestrains
    96 points Feb 09,2019, 8:58pm

    Trust me if you are fat I see you as fat.

  • Hagglepoise
    47 points Feb 09,2019, 9:31pm

    Omg so ableist against blind people!!

    /s if it wasn’t obvious

  • ow_my_damn_knee
    14 points Feb 09,2019, 11:31pm

    So they want you to see them as fat?

  • BlackdogLao
    4 points Feb 10,2019, 8:42am

    So if you somehow lost weight, would you cease to exist?

    are you only measurable and quantifiable by that singular dimension; that of being overweight, or do you have some other traits, quirks, opinions, or other idiosyncrasies by which you could differentiate your own personal uniqueness?

    No, just fat, ok got it.

  • npsimons
    4 points Feb 10,2019, 9:57am

    Yes, people are more than their weight. But weight affects so many things, it's not really something that can just be overlooked. It's also a reflection of your lifestyle. Source on both points: I was fat. I know how it made everything harder. I also know what caused it. Fat people can lie to themselves all they want, but I know better.

  • lnrgms
    3 points Feb 10,2019, 10:04am

    I don't get what is the point they are trying to make at all.

  • seekingindependence
    2 points Feb 10,2019, 3:38pm

    You can't win with these people.

    I would put money on the fact that if I did call this person fat, they would be very upset.

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  • criesinplanestrains
    96 points Feb 09,2019, 8:58pm

    Trust me if you are fat I see you as fat.

  • Hagglepoise
    47 points Feb 09,2019, 9:31pm

    Omg so ableist against blind people!!

    /s if it wasn’t obvious

  • ow_my_damn_knee
    14 points Feb 09,2019, 11:31pm

    So they want you to see them as fat?

  • mmeeplechase
    13 points Feb 09,2019, 11:52pm

    I would’ve expected something like “if you don’t see me as a person” or “if you don’t see me as more than my body” but this is a different/even less reasonable spin on that idea.

  • BlackdogLao
    4 points Feb 10,2019, 8:42am

    So if you somehow lost weight, would you cease to exist?

    are you only measurable and quantifiable by that singular dimension; that of being overweight, or do you have some other traits, quirks, opinions, or other idiosyncrasies by which you could differentiate your own personal uniqueness?

    No, just fat, ok got it.

  • npsimons
    4 points Feb 10,2019, 9:57am

    Yes, people are more than their weight. But weight affects so many things, it's not really something that can just be overlooked. It's also a reflection of your lifestyle. Source on both points: I was fat. I know how it made everything harder. I also know what caused it. Fat people can lie to themselves all they want, but I know better.

  • lnrgms
    3 points Feb 10,2019, 10:04am

    I don't get what is the point they are trying to make at all.

  • seekingindependence
    2 points Feb 10,2019, 3:38pm

    You can't win with these people.

    I would put money on the fact that if I did call this person fat, they would be very upset.