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[The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: The Tempest #6] A letter from Hiram J Comicsgate III, Oaklahodahio

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  • captaineclectic
    14 points Jul 18,2019, 6:58am

    “Oklahodahio” is legitimately funny.

  • ThatMakesMeTheWinner
    1 points Jul 18,2019, 5:50pm

    Reminds me of Badiddlyboing, Odawidaho.

  • nomadicbow
    1 points Jul 18,2019, 12:03pm

    Damn that's hilarious.

    I haven't read any of the recent League books. This last issue has a fake letters column? Ha!

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  • captaineclectic
    14 points Jul 18,2019, 6:58am

    “Oklahodahio” is legitimately funny.

  • ThatMakesMeTheWinner
    1 points Jul 18,2019, 5:50pm

    Reminds me of Badiddlyboing, Odawidaho.

  • nomadicbow
    1 points Jul 18,2019, 12:03pm

    Damn that's hilarious.

    I haven't read any of the recent League books. This last issue has a fake letters column? Ha!

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After Uncanny X-men today. I can not wait.

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COMMENTS

  • TheRealCountVertigo
    53 points Jul 17,2019, 10:04pm

    I’ve read the previews, we are in for a wild ride

  • QueequegInHisCoffin
    41 points Jul 17,2019, 10:12pm

    I hope it’s awesome. I’m a big X-Men fan, but the books have just been so disappointing over the recent years. Not to throw shade at the creators who worked on the books, because there were a lot of really great talents on them, but it just hasn’t felt right in a long time for Marvel’s mutants.

  • 3_Styx
    30 points Jul 17,2019, 11:07pm

    Seriously. I've been Bart Simpson at Kamp Krusty rocking himself back and forth repeating "Krusty is coming. Krusty is coming" for months.

    But Hickman's a lot better than Krusty the clown. Woo. Bring it on.

  • stormbreaker5
    13 points Jul 17,2019, 11:53pm

    I seriously cannot wait for this to come out. The X-men have needed a good story for a long time and Hickman is the perfect person to do it. I'm a huge fan of all his other work, his F4 especially. It's a good time to be an X-fan

  • Zidji
    8 points Jul 18,2019, 1:40am

    At my age, I didn't think I could be as hyped by a one page pitch as I am by this.

  • soulreaverdan
    9 points Jul 18,2019, 5:57am

    I forget if it was in the preview book or another interview, but I heard the House of X/Power of X books described as the end of the "Extinction Era" of X-Men that started back with House of M... and thank fucking God for it. While a good story hook, I think that ending it after Avengers vs X-Men would have been the right way to do it (as flawed as that story was). Going back to it again after Secret Wars and then again in the new Uncanny run just made it feel so goddamned tired. I'm very excited for a new "era" of X-Books to take the stage and hopefully revitalize the line in a way that's not as transient as some of the other big moments have been. And god damn if anyone can do it, I trust Hickman for sure.

  • KingDorkFTC
    9 points Jul 17,2019, 10:49pm

    Getting every Scottie Young cover.

  • yuudachikaini
    21 points Jul 17,2019, 10:04pm

    Definitively cannot wait for Hickman's X-men after the Satan's Diarrhea that Rosenberg's run was.

  • RandomJPG6
    7 points Jul 17,2019, 10:55pm

    Next week can't come soon enough. Haven't been this hyped for a book since Morrison's Lantern.

  • Tohaveheart
    3 points Jul 18,2019, 4:54am

    I will literally read any comic Hickman writes, and I am excited he is doing a long project at Marvel.

    Just hope East of West, Manhattan Projects and and Black Monday Murders will still ship

  • cerebud
    3 points Jul 18,2019, 5:55am

    I haven’t read X-Men since Morrison. I tried a little of Bendis’ fun, but it wasn’t for me. The X-Men have been a mess for too long. Looking forward to this

  • Whedonite144
    10 points Jul 17,2019, 10:07pm

    I'll be honest, I liked Rosenberg's run on Uncanny, but I'm SO glad that we're getting this next.

  • CableAHVB
    2 points Jul 18,2019, 5:32am

    So what titles am I looking for that start this? The two he mentions in this letter? Or Uncanny? Something else?

  • JackFisherBooks
    2 points Jul 18,2019, 6:27am

    Same here! This might be the most excited I've been for an X-Men event in over a decade. 😊

  • ArysOakheart
    2 points Jul 18,2019, 1:29pm

    I just can't wrap my head around the senseless killing off of so many characters. It's the state of the industry with new writers coming in wanting absolute creative freedom but killing off characters that had great development and writing in the past off-screen or just to tick another box of 'we need to make it feel like mutants are facing extinction this issue' has felt nothing but cheap and insulting.

    Triage was one of the greats to come out of Cyclops's short-lived 'school' alongside Goldballs and Tempus. Rahne is a major part of the X-family. Jamie became a big figure in the extended X-family during the great era of the mid-late 2000s with X-Factor Investigations, and the list goes on and on. I hope X-Man and Legion's last act of bravado to mark the end of this dark period of pre-Hickman X-Men is to 'reset' everything that's transpired since over X-Men Disassembled.

  • tournesol90
    1 points Jul 17,2019, 11:29pm

    what is uncanny x men?

  • LePloud
    1 points Jul 18,2019, 8:11am

    I've stopped reading X-Men comics pretty much since Death of X, so i'm really not up to date (didn't look into Age of X-Man etc), do we know if House of X and Powers of X will rely on previous big events, or if it is a kind of relaunch ?

  • ChucksterRay
    1 points Jul 18,2019, 8:15am

    As someone who hasn’t read x-men for years because of how it’s appeared is this going to be confusing to start reading?

  • shockwave00
    1 points Jul 18,2019, 11:40am

    Never read X-Men before but I am sold on this. Cannot wait.

COMMENTS

  • TheRealCountVertigo
    53 points Jul 17,2019, 10:04pm

    I’ve read the previews, we are in for a wild ride

  • QueequegInHisCoffin
    41 points Jul 17,2019, 10:12pm

    I hope it’s awesome. I’m a big X-Men fan, but the books have just been so disappointing over the recent years. Not to throw shade at the creators who worked on the books, because there were a lot of really great talents on them, but it just hasn’t felt right in a long time for Marvel’s mutants.

  • 3_Styx
    30 points Jul 17,2019, 11:07pm

    Seriously. I've been Bart Simpson at Kamp Krusty rocking himself back and forth repeating "Krusty is coming. Krusty is coming" for months.

    But Hickman's a lot better than Krusty the clown. Woo. Bring it on.

  • CouldBeComics
    21 points Jul 17,2019, 10:19pm

    I know Hickman likes to tackle multiple books at a time, but if one of them is a monthly Uncanny I'll be there for it.

  • stormbreaker5
    13 points Jul 17,2019, 11:53pm

    I seriously cannot wait for this to come out. The X-men have needed a good story for a long time and Hickman is the perfect person to do it. I'm a huge fan of all his other work, his F4 especially. It's a good time to be an X-fan

  • Zidji
    8 points Jul 18,2019, 1:40am

    At my age, I didn't think I could be as hyped by a one page pitch as I am by this.

  • soulreaverdan
    9 points Jul 18,2019, 5:57am

    I forget if it was in the preview book or another interview, but I heard the House of X/Power of X books described as the end of the "Extinction Era" of X-Men that started back with House of M... and thank fucking God for it. While a good story hook, I think that ending it after Avengers vs X-Men would have been the right way to do it (as flawed as that story was). Going back to it again after Secret Wars and then again in the new Uncanny run just made it feel so goddamned tired. I'm very excited for a new "era" of X-Books to take the stage and hopefully revitalize the line in a way that's not as transient as some of the other big moments have been. And god damn if anyone can do it, I trust Hickman for sure.

  • KingDorkFTC
    9 points Jul 17,2019, 10:49pm

    Getting every Scottie Young cover.

  • yuudachikaini
    21 points Jul 17,2019, 10:04pm

    Definitively cannot wait for Hickman's X-men after the Satan's Diarrhea that Rosenberg's run was.

  • RandomJPG6
    7 points Jul 17,2019, 10:55pm

    Next week can't come soon enough. Haven't been this hyped for a book since Morrison's Lantern.

  • Tohaveheart
    3 points Jul 18,2019, 4:54am

    I will literally read any comic Hickman writes, and I am excited he is doing a long project at Marvel.

    Just hope East of West, Manhattan Projects and and Black Monday Murders will still ship

  • cerebud
    3 points Jul 18,2019, 5:55am

    I haven’t read X-Men since Morrison. I tried a little of Bendis’ fun, but it wasn’t for me. The X-Men have been a mess for too long. Looking forward to this

  • Whedonite144
    10 points Jul 17,2019, 10:07pm

    I'll be honest, I liked Rosenberg's run on Uncanny, but I'm SO glad that we're getting this next.

  • CableAHVB
    2 points Jul 18,2019, 5:32am

    So what titles am I looking for that start this? The two he mentions in this letter? Or Uncanny? Something else?

  • JackFisherBooks
    2 points Jul 18,2019, 6:27am

    Same here! This might be the most excited I've been for an X-Men event in over a decade. 😊

  • ArysOakheart
    2 points Jul 18,2019, 1:29pm

    I just can't wrap my head around the senseless killing off of so many characters. It's the state of the industry with new writers coming in wanting absolute creative freedom but killing off characters that had great development and writing in the past off-screen or just to tick another box of 'we need to make it feel like mutants are facing extinction this issue' has felt nothing but cheap and insulting.

    Triage was one of the greats to come out of Cyclops's short-lived 'school' alongside Goldballs and Tempus. Rahne is a major part of the X-family. Jamie became a big figure in the extended X-family during the great era of the mid-late 2000s with X-Factor Investigations, and the list goes on and on. I hope X-Man and Legion's last act of bravado to mark the end of this dark period of pre-Hickman X-Men is to 'reset' everything that's transpired since over X-Men Disassembled.

  • tournesol90
    1 points Jul 17,2019, 11:29pm

    what is uncanny x men?

  • LePloud
    1 points Jul 18,2019, 8:11am

    I've stopped reading X-Men comics pretty much since Death of X, so i'm really not up to date (didn't look into Age of X-Man etc), do we know if House of X and Powers of X will rely on previous big events, or if it is a kind of relaunch ?

  • ChucksterRay
    1 points Jul 18,2019, 8:15am

    As someone who hasn’t read x-men for years because of how it’s appeared is this going to be confusing to start reading?

  • shockwave00
    1 points Jul 18,2019, 11:40am

    Never read X-Men before but I am sold on this. Cannot wait.

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The myth of America (Preacher #44)

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COMMENTS

  • gangler52
    5 points Jul 17,2019, 5:53pm

    under a harsh light it is false

    Under any light, really.

  • Jay_R_Kay
    2 points Jul 17,2019, 6:51pm

    Stuff like this makes me wonder what an Ennis run of Captain America would look like.

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  • gangler52
    5 points Jul 17,2019, 5:53pm

    under a harsh light it is false

    Under any light, really.

  • Jay_R_Kay
    2 points Jul 17,2019, 6:51pm

    Stuff like this makes me wonder what an Ennis run of Captain America would look like.

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[Spoiler] This page put a big old grin on my face. (Jimmy Olson #1)

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  • FranklinRichardss
    7 points Jul 17,2019, 6:00pm

    Amazing.

  • gangler52
    6 points Jul 17,2019, 6:18pm

    Jimmy's time to shine!

    How is this series? Any good?

  • swiftly6
    3 points Jul 17,2019, 7:54pm

    I really liked the first panel on the next page where it zooms out slightly on Clark's face looking at the reader winking

  • jeyybird
    1 points Jul 17,2019, 8:19pm

    The next panel is great too as the publisher basically is like "wtf are you doing" when she sees Clark mugging the "camera".

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  • FranklinRichardss
    7 points Jul 17,2019, 6:00pm

    Amazing.

  • gangler52
    6 points Jul 17,2019, 6:18pm

    Jimmy's time to shine!

    How is this series? Any good?

  • swiftly6
    3 points Jul 17,2019, 7:54pm

    I really liked the first panel on the next page where it zooms out slightly on Clark's face looking at the reader winking

  • BeenWavy07
    1 points Jul 17,2019, 7:50pm

    Is this a maxi series or an ongoing?

  • jeyybird
    1 points Jul 17,2019, 8:19pm

    The next panel is great too as the publisher basically is like "wtf are you doing" when she sees Clark mugging the "camera".

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Tony Stark: "God, you're magnificent" (Civil War Warzones #5, 2015)

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  • WhereAreMyComics
    43 points Jul 17,2019, 12:30pm

    Ooooooooh nice connection between this and the other Soule She-Hulk post. I see what you did here

  • Trimputet
    6 points Jul 17,2019, 5:20pm

    Ew, don't kiss him. You don't know where he's been.

  • boomboxwithturbobass
    5 points Jul 17,2019, 6:21pm

    They never show him spontaneously make out with Steve Rogers.

  • SSGB2019
    4 points Jul 17,2019, 4:16pm

    Civil War Warzones and other Secret Wars ties in were pretty good. Except the ending of Secret Wars’ Planet Hulk tie in. It was great up until that point.

  • gangler52
    16 points Jul 17,2019, 12:24pm

    Is that She-Hulk or the Green Gaurdian of the Galaxy?

  • Doctor_Mudshark
    2 points Jul 17,2019, 7:33pm

    "Whatever it takes"

  • a_trashcan
    2 points Jul 17,2019, 7:43pm

    When did tony bleach hos hair??

  • pirkules
    2 points Jul 17,2019, 8:24pm

    You can see the robert downey jr influence in this artist’s rendition of tony stark imo

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  • WhereAreMyComics
    43 points Jul 17,2019, 12:30pm

    Ooooooooh nice connection between this and the other Soule She-Hulk post. I see what you did here

  • Trimputet
    6 points Jul 17,2019, 5:20pm

    Ew, don't kiss him. You don't know where he's been.

  • boomboxwithturbobass
    5 points Jul 17,2019, 6:21pm

    They never show him spontaneously make out with Steve Rogers.

  • makinghomemadejam
    5 points Jul 17,2019, 2:23pm

    Nice one! :)

    I'm going to make an edit in my comment on my post to link to this.

  • SSGB2019
    4 points Jul 17,2019, 4:16pm

    Civil War Warzones and other Secret Wars ties in were pretty good. Except the ending of Secret Wars’ Planet Hulk tie in. It was great up until that point.

  • gangler52
    16 points Jul 17,2019, 12:24pm

    Is that She-Hulk or the Green Gaurdian of the Galaxy?

  • Doctor_Mudshark
    2 points Jul 17,2019, 7:33pm

    "Whatever it takes"

  • a_trashcan
    2 points Jul 17,2019, 7:43pm

    When did tony bleach hos hair??

  • pirkules
    2 points Jul 17,2019, 8:24pm

    You can see the robert downey jr influence in this artist’s rendition of tony stark imo

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[Ultimate Power #2, 2006] This panel sums up why I dislike Greg Land's art. Kitty Pryde is supposed to be 15. Does that look like a 15 y/o???

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  • MaryToddLinkedIn
    74 points Jul 14,2019, 10:24pm

    I'm assuming they just drew the 616 versions of the characters without having knowledge of their Ultimate versions (which happens a lot in Ultimate comics cough Doctor Doom cough) since Peter also has the proportions of an adult and not the big head Ultimate Spider-Man has usually. That's meeting Land way more than half way though.

  • lazarustls
    130 points Jul 14,2019, 9:38pm

    Spidey legs should be spread to show his package, to match Kittys ass shot.

  • kalel160
    75 points Jul 14,2019, 9:40pm

    I agree and also there’s a lot more wrong with it as well. Its awfully flat and static and the background looks like he just ran a photo of the city through a filter.

  • Tadhgdagis
    26 points Jul 14,2019, 11:00pm

    Haven't read the ultimate stuff, but...honestly, has Kitty Pride looked like a teen since the Claremont era?

  • RessertD-nickert
    26 points Jul 15,2019, 1:01am

    She looks closer to 15 than most other comic book characters I've seen. I honestly was wondering if they de-aged her since last I heard (dont read Marvel and havent for a long long time) she was in her 30s or something now.

  • DukeofSlackers
    23 points Jul 15,2019, 1:17am

    Shadowcat is a badass name, eat a dick Spidey

  • CashWho
    33 points Jul 14,2019, 11:28pm

    That's just comics. Hope Summers is, at most, 16 years old right now. This is how she is most commonly drawn. Ultimate Gwen is probably around 16 too and this is how she looked in her first appearance.

    Comic artists always draw young people as looking older than they are.

  • ContraryPython
    41 points Jul 14,2019, 9:57pm

    Greg Land’s art tracing really turns me off of a comic with good writing, like the current Symbiote Spider-Man book.

    You can shit on Rob Liefeld all you want, but at least he can draw and has an artstyle compared to Land

  • Digomr
    7 points Jul 14,2019, 10:26pm

    Well, knowing how much he swipes from adult films and magazines it's no surprise Kitty's representation at all...

  • Masamundane
    28 points Jul 14,2019, 11:56pm

    The ass shot is totally unnecessary, but it's actually her face/mouth that bothers me here. I mean, at least Land avoided his favorite 'O' face, but her expression doesn't match anything she's saying, like, at all.

    Also, what's she looking at? She's talking to Spider-Man directly. Why draw her looking off panel?

  • nanowarrior69
    10 points Jul 15,2019, 12:54am

    Greg Land had the incredible skill of keeping me, one of the biggest Iron Man and X-Men fanboys out there, away from thoss comics for years. He sucks so badly he totally destroyed Gillen's or Bunn's good work. It's the same for Ramos on Spider-Man, but at least Ramos doesn't openly trace porn. It's a shame Land is the artist who drew the most X-Men comics ever

  • Mangoconut
    15 points Jul 15,2019, 5:12am

    Ik I'm gonna get downvoted but I feel like a lot of artist draw with their penis instead of their heads.

  • Domino_Dare-Doll
    12 points Jul 15,2019, 1:31am

    That looks like a 15 year old being hideously exploited, if that's what ya mean.

    Ok, for the record, I do usually tend to let just a little bit slide when it comes to stylisation in artwork, like how the character's drawn? It can be a bit hellish trying to balance out the old 'pleasing style vs accurate portrayal,'

    But the composition of this is 100% inexcusable; she's a kid being made to look like a pin-up girl in terms of what her outfit is doing and the whole 'titilating cheekiness' in expression.

    Worst part is...this is exactly what this outfit is designed for. Not to make the character look or feel good, for her to have the right to choose to say 'my body isn't for you to oggle,' but...well. In fact this is that argument being used against itself right here.

    Christ am I glad they've been taking some steps in the right direction since (Captain Marvel, Batgirl, Spider-Gwen ect...)

  • NightweaselX
    7 points Jul 15,2019, 12:46am

    Wtf is wrong with Shadowcat as a name? But that's not the worst teenager I've seen drawn in a big two comic.

  • CouldBeComics
    6 points Jul 14,2019, 9:49pm

    Greg Land is simply the worst at everything he draws.

  • rxsheepxr
    2 points Jul 15,2019, 5:23am

    I wonder what porno he traced it from.

  • SBGoldenCurry
    2 points Jul 15,2019, 7:21am

    It's deffs weird as fuck if you've read like the Clairmont run and you've seen kitty acting like an actual child

    Fuck Greg land

  • MrStatistx
    2 points Jul 15,2019, 10:28am

    I absolutely hate invisible woman and her constant orgasm face in his issues

  • MoreDblRainbows
    2 points Jul 15,2019, 10:37am

    Camera angle for a 15 year old issue aside her face looks old, way too angular, and nothing like Kitty Pryde. She's also just too big. She looks like wonder woman or a Real Housewife. Also weirdly looks like she has chest hair lol

  • rss4venom
    4 points Jul 14,2019, 10:43pm

    Meh

  • Partysnaxthegreat
    2 points Jul 15,2019, 9:03am

    Isn’t Greg Land the guy who traces porn magazines and Sports Illustrated issues?

  • whopoopedthebed
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 1:34am

    I’m guessing he traced an adult magazine featuring a woman being penetrated at that angle.

  • mahzian
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 2:06am

    The sad thing is that Land CAN produce some really great art, if you look back at his earlier stuff before he started tracing porn his stuff was actually pretty good.

  • AngryFanboy
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 6:33am

    So many other problems other than the obvious porno trace - the background does not look like the same image as the characters in the foreground. Spidey looks so bad. Why didn't change the face at least, have her looking at the person he's talking too? The web is not coming out of Spidey's wrist. Greg Land can ruin great writing with his horrible art. He cheapens the value of comics he works on. The fact he gets work over people who work so much harder - especially on big titles like this, is offensive.

  • cerebud
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 6:43am

    Marvel tearing down Marvel’s history seems to be what it does these days

  • Cryope
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 6:49am

    Is it bad that the first thing I noticed is not the ass, but Spidey’s wierd detached looking head.

  • stevedoesitall
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 7:59am

    I just realized Bendis teased Kitty becoming The Shroud three years before it happened.

  • AltoGobo
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 8:17am

    I don’t think any X-men in this continuity wore a costume like that

  • Memebigboy66
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 8:24am

    Cough cough hirohiko araki cough cough

  • CaptainColdPizza
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 10:35am

    The writing is also bad, this reads like a small talk that one would have in a cafe, not swinging between skyscrappers and 150 mph.

  • Garthmer
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 12:48pm

    Why is her ass out like that and we don't see Spider-man crotch? Why can't I see Spidey's crotch?!

    Also, it looks like they were drawn last. Why? They take up so much of the page.

  • BluWolfShade21
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 1:17pm

    https://youtu.be/bshNOtERfVI this video sums up what lead Greg to being a terrible artist

  • Iusetohaveacoolname
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 1:29pm

    My question is, where are her pants?

  • RickVince
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 4:00pm

    About 3 weeks ago I read a comic with a female character making that exact face.

    Look took me by surprise. Like...for what reason?

  • KanyevsLelouche
    0 points Jul 14,2019, 11:32pm

    I like it

  • ljog42
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 5:24am

    She looks anywhere between 15 and 25 considering there's only so much subtle characteristics you can convey in this kind of comic art style, she's probably too tall and of course the real problem is she's showing a whole lot of ass and considering she's supposed to be 15 it's a bit creepy yes but TBH I've seen so, so much worse I'd be willing to give this a pass depending on how the rest of the comic is.

  • Kreeps_United
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 8:32am

    My problem is that her expression (that Land had to trace) doesn't match what is happening. She's not just swinging through the air, but having a casual conversation with someone as she does. Her face doesn't match that.

    There is only so much reference for all the situations a superhero comic requires you to draw. Every artist has to know how to push or reinterpret a reference to fit what you need. You can't do that with tracing.

  • ArcherChase
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 9:36am

    She isn't super curvy and her face has a youthful look. Not the same teen style Bagkey perfected for the Spidey Friends in Ultimate Spidey but I've seen a lot worse from Land. Pixie in that X-Men cover was far worse.

  • kittyburritto
    -1 points Jul 15,2019, 9:19am

    I mean yeah it does look like a 15 year old. Have you seen 15 year olds lately?

  • ComicBookFanatic97
    0 points Jul 15,2019, 1:35am

    Greg Land should start drawing manga.

  • deleted
    -2 points Jul 14,2019, 9:37pm

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  • MisanthropicAtheist
    -3 points Jul 15,2019, 10:22am

    I mean, yeah? I've seen plenty of teenagers that look like that.

  • AnchorBabyOfVishnu
    -17 points Jul 15,2019, 4:15am

    So you have never seen a 15 year old dressed like this? perhaps you might want to walk outside sometime. She was engaged to Colossus for some time , no outrage then? She has been 13 , 15 , early 20's....I wouldn't let my daughter walk out the door like that , but literally almost every high school cheerleader outfit looks a hell of a lot like that. So if you think this does not represent reality you are very , very out of touch with reality. So yes at every JV football game that is pretty much what a 15 year old looks like on the sideline. Quite a few in the summer as well. Shit in the early 1990's at the outdoor parties many dressed like this. My first wife did and so did all her friends and that was 1990 and yeah they were 15-17. Art is reflecting reality , it sounds like your issues are with reality.

COMMENTS

  • MaryToddLinkedIn
    74 points Jul 14,2019, 10:24pm

    I'm assuming they just drew the 616 versions of the characters without having knowledge of their Ultimate versions (which happens a lot in Ultimate comics cough Doctor Doom cough) since Peter also has the proportions of an adult and not the big head Ultimate Spider-Man has usually. That's meeting Land way more than half way though.

  • lazarustls
    130 points Jul 14,2019, 9:38pm

    Spidey legs should be spread to show his package, to match Kittys ass shot.

  • kalel160
    75 points Jul 14,2019, 9:40pm

    I agree and also there’s a lot more wrong with it as well. Its awfully flat and static and the background looks like he just ran a photo of the city through a filter.

  • thetokenkiwi
    28 points Jul 15,2019, 3:18am

    I went to my LCS a few years ago and there were some local artists there.

    My daughter who was three at the time, wanted to be drawn as Supergirl. So the artist drew my 3 year old “all grown up”, but kept the facial features all the same (still a bit of pudge in the cheeks etc).

    It was so unsettling. Like. Why? Just draw my kid in a Supergirl costume dude.

    Anyway, that drawing was “lost” pretty quickly. Seeing this post reminded me of it.

  • Tadhgdagis
    26 points Jul 14,2019, 11:00pm

    Haven't read the ultimate stuff, but...honestly, has Kitty Pride looked like a teen since the Claremont era?

  • RessertD-nickert
    26 points Jul 15,2019, 1:01am

    She looks closer to 15 than most other comic book characters I've seen. I honestly was wondering if they de-aged her since last I heard (dont read Marvel and havent for a long long time) she was in her 30s or something now.

  • DukeofSlackers
    23 points Jul 15,2019, 1:17am

    Shadowcat is a badass name, eat a dick Spidey

  • CashWho
    33 points Jul 14,2019, 11:28pm

    That's just comics. Hope Summers is, at most, 16 years old right now. This is how she is most commonly drawn. Ultimate Gwen is probably around 16 too and this is how she looked in her first appearance.

    Comic artists always draw young people as looking older than they are.

  • ContraryPython
    41 points Jul 14,2019, 9:57pm

    Greg Land’s art tracing really turns me off of a comic with good writing, like the current Symbiote Spider-Man book.

    You can shit on Rob Liefeld all you want, but at least he can draw and has an artstyle compared to Land

  • Digomr
    7 points Jul 14,2019, 10:26pm

    Well, knowing how much he swipes from adult films and magazines it's no surprise Kitty's representation at all...

  • Masamundane
    28 points Jul 14,2019, 11:56pm

    The ass shot is totally unnecessary, but it's actually her face/mouth that bothers me here. I mean, at least Land avoided his favorite 'O' face, but her expression doesn't match anything she's saying, like, at all.

    Also, what's she looking at? She's talking to Spider-Man directly. Why draw her looking off panel?

  • nanowarrior69
    10 points Jul 15,2019, 12:54am

    Greg Land had the incredible skill of keeping me, one of the biggest Iron Man and X-Men fanboys out there, away from thoss comics for years. He sucks so badly he totally destroyed Gillen's or Bunn's good work. It's the same for Ramos on Spider-Man, but at least Ramos doesn't openly trace porn. It's a shame Land is the artist who drew the most X-Men comics ever

  • Mangoconut
    15 points Jul 15,2019, 5:12am

    Ik I'm gonna get downvoted but I feel like a lot of artist draw with their penis instead of their heads.

  • Domino_Dare-Doll
    12 points Jul 15,2019, 1:31am

    That looks like a 15 year old being hideously exploited, if that's what ya mean.

    Ok, for the record, I do usually tend to let just a little bit slide when it comes to stylisation in artwork, like how the character's drawn? It can be a bit hellish trying to balance out the old 'pleasing style vs accurate portrayal,'

    But the composition of this is 100% inexcusable; she's a kid being made to look like a pin-up girl in terms of what her outfit is doing and the whole 'titilating cheekiness' in expression.

    Worst part is...this is exactly what this outfit is designed for. Not to make the character look or feel good, for her to have the right to choose to say 'my body isn't for you to oggle,' but...well. In fact this is that argument being used against itself right here.

    Christ am I glad they've been taking some steps in the right direction since (Captain Marvel, Batgirl, Spider-Gwen ect...)

  • NightweaselX
    7 points Jul 15,2019, 12:46am

    Wtf is wrong with Shadowcat as a name? But that's not the worst teenager I've seen drawn in a big two comic.

  • CouldBeComics
    6 points Jul 14,2019, 9:49pm

    Greg Land is simply the worst at everything he draws.

  • rxsheepxr
    2 points Jul 15,2019, 5:23am

    I wonder what porno he traced it from.

  • SBGoldenCurry
    2 points Jul 15,2019, 7:21am

    It's deffs weird as fuck if you've read like the Clairmont run and you've seen kitty acting like an actual child

    Fuck Greg land

  • MrStatistx
    2 points Jul 15,2019, 10:28am

    I absolutely hate invisible woman and her constant orgasm face in his issues

  • MoreDblRainbows
    2 points Jul 15,2019, 10:37am

    Camera angle for a 15 year old issue aside her face looks old, way too angular, and nothing like Kitty Pryde. She's also just too big. She looks like wonder woman or a Real Housewife. Also weirdly looks like she has chest hair lol

  • rss4venom
    4 points Jul 14,2019, 10:43pm

    Meh

  • Partysnaxthegreat
    2 points Jul 15,2019, 9:03am

    Isn’t Greg Land the guy who traces porn magazines and Sports Illustrated issues?

  • whopoopedthebed
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 1:34am

    I’m guessing he traced an adult magazine featuring a woman being penetrated at that angle.

  • mahzian
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 2:06am

    The sad thing is that Land CAN produce some really great art, if you look back at his earlier stuff before he started tracing porn his stuff was actually pretty good.

  • AngryFanboy
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 6:33am

    So many other problems other than the obvious porno trace - the background does not look like the same image as the characters in the foreground. Spidey looks so bad. Why didn't change the face at least, have her looking at the person he's talking too? The web is not coming out of Spidey's wrist. Greg Land can ruin great writing with his horrible art. He cheapens the value of comics he works on. The fact he gets work over people who work so much harder - especially on big titles like this, is offensive.

  • cerebud
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 6:43am

    Marvel tearing down Marvel’s history seems to be what it does these days

  • Cryope
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 6:49am

    Is it bad that the first thing I noticed is not the ass, but Spidey’s wierd detached looking head.

  • stevedoesitall
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 7:59am

    I just realized Bendis teased Kitty becoming The Shroud three years before it happened.

  • AltoGobo
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 8:17am

    I don’t think any X-men in this continuity wore a costume like that

  • Memebigboy66
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 8:24am

    Cough cough hirohiko araki cough cough

  • CaptainColdPizza
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 10:35am

    The writing is also bad, this reads like a small talk that one would have in a cafe, not swinging between skyscrappers and 150 mph.

  • Garthmer
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 12:48pm

    Why is her ass out like that and we don't see Spider-man crotch? Why can't I see Spidey's crotch?!

    Also, it looks like they were drawn last. Why? They take up so much of the page.

  • BluWolfShade21
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 1:17pm

    https://youtu.be/bshNOtERfVI this video sums up what lead Greg to being a terrible artist

  • Iusetohaveacoolname
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 1:29pm

    My question is, where are her pants?

  • RickVince
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 4:00pm

    About 3 weeks ago I read a comic with a female character making that exact face.

    Look took me by surprise. Like...for what reason?

  • KanyevsLelouche
    0 points Jul 14,2019, 11:32pm

    I like it

  • ljog42
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 5:24am

    She looks anywhere between 15 and 25 considering there's only so much subtle characteristics you can convey in this kind of comic art style, she's probably too tall and of course the real problem is she's showing a whole lot of ass and considering she's supposed to be 15 it's a bit creepy yes but TBH I've seen so, so much worse I'd be willing to give this a pass depending on how the rest of the comic is.

  • Kreeps_United
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 8:32am

    My problem is that her expression (that Land had to trace) doesn't match what is happening. She's not just swinging through the air, but having a casual conversation with someone as she does. Her face doesn't match that.

    There is only so much reference for all the situations a superhero comic requires you to draw. Every artist has to know how to push or reinterpret a reference to fit what you need. You can't do that with tracing.

  • ArcherChase
    1 points Jul 15,2019, 9:36am

    She isn't super curvy and her face has a youthful look. Not the same teen style Bagkey perfected for the Spidey Friends in Ultimate Spidey but I've seen a lot worse from Land. Pixie in that X-Men cover was far worse.

  • kittyburritto
    -1 points Jul 15,2019, 9:19am

    I mean yeah it does look like a 15 year old. Have you seen 15 year olds lately?

  • ComicBookFanatic97
    0 points Jul 15,2019, 1:35am

    Greg Land should start drawing manga.

  • deleted
    -2 points Jul 14,2019, 9:37pm

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  • MisanthropicAtheist
    -3 points Jul 15,2019, 10:22am

    I mean, yeah? I've seen plenty of teenagers that look like that.

  • AnchorBabyOfVishnu
    -17 points Jul 15,2019, 4:15am

    So you have never seen a 15 year old dressed like this? perhaps you might want to walk outside sometime. She was engaged to Colossus for some time , no outrage then? She has been 13 , 15 , early 20's....I wouldn't let my daughter walk out the door like that , but literally almost every high school cheerleader outfit looks a hell of a lot like that. So if you think this does not represent reality you are very , very out of touch with reality. So yes at every JV football game that is pretty much what a 15 year old looks like on the sideline. Quite a few in the summer as well. Shit in the early 1990's at the outdoor parties many dressed like this. My first wife did and so did all her friends and that was 1990 and yeah they were 15-17. Art is reflecting reality , it sounds like your issues are with reality.

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TIL that Simon Pegg wears an INVINCIBLE shirt in the movie 'PAUL'. Also stars Seth Rogen who is heavily involved with the Invincible series coming to AMAZON

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  • PsychoFlashFan
    6 points Jul 14,2019, 6:49pm

    I just finished reading Invincible yesterday. Great stuff.

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  • PsychoFlashFan
    6 points Jul 14,2019, 6:49pm

    I just finished reading Invincible yesterday. Great stuff.

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[Fan-Art] Cap and Iron Man

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  • Aquaman2161
    2 points Jul 13,2019, 8:04pm

    Sweet!

  • Normie_O1
    2 points Jul 13,2019, 8:16pm

    Really cool but the lips are too red

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  • Aquaman2161
    2 points Jul 13,2019, 8:04pm

    Sweet!

  • Normie_O1
    2 points Jul 13,2019, 8:16pm

    Really cool but the lips are too red

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[Cover] Labyrinth 30th Anniversary Special #1 variant by Mike Allred

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  • PhantomMaggot
    12 points Jul 12,2019, 11:21am

    Figured this was worth posting with the news of Allred writing/drawing a Bowie book.

  • islaydragons
    5 points Jul 12,2019, 1:05pm

    You remind me of the babe.

  • Ekstwntythre
    1 points Jul 12,2019, 11:28am

    Didnt this already happen? I have that book.

    Coronation was the better series.

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  • PhantomMaggot
    12 points Jul 12,2019, 11:21am

    Figured this was worth posting with the news of Allred writing/drawing a Bowie book.

  • islaydragons
    5 points Jul 12,2019, 1:05pm

    You remind me of the babe.

  • Ekstwntythre
    1 points Jul 12,2019, 11:28am

    Didnt this already happen? I have that book.

    Coronation was the better series.

  • Nagesh_Chandra_Nial
    1 points Jul 12,2019, 6:05pm

    Tra la la

  • MasterNyx
    1 points Jul 12,2019, 6:34pm

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Dr. Strange's talking snakes return! ... and they don't appear to be part of the Sanctorum's defences [Black Cat #2]

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  • subparcaviar
    1 points Jul 11,2019, 8:04pm

    Not gonna lie, I'm enjoying the hell out of this series so far. It's not flashy or dashy, which I can semi-blame on the muted color palette, but other than that throughout these last two issues I've really enjoyed the decent humor pairing with the who's who/what's what of heist mechanics in the MU. I'm definitely looking forward to this series gaining more steam.

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  • Saisibi_suresh
    21 points Jul 10,2019, 11:17pm

    Love to see a conversation between the snakes and bats. That dog is funny

  • snarkamedes
    11 points Jul 10,2019, 11:29pm

    A bit more + the snakes' previous appearances (can't find a way to link to imgur albums now):

    Dr. Strange: https://i.imgur.com/IR80l4N.jpg
    Jessica Jones: https://i.imgur.com/XNSCOCp.jpg, https://i.imgur.com/UEi6xhd.jpg, https://i.imgur.com/VUeSaLB.jpg

  • ConfusedJonSnow
    7 points Jul 11,2019, 4:19am

    So... whats up with the snakes? Are they actually evil or just incredibly horny all the time?

  • TriscuitCracker
    3 points Jul 11,2019, 12:16pm

    So they are the Worm Guys from MiB basically.

  • subparcaviar
    1 points Jul 11,2019, 8:04pm

    Not gonna lie, I'm enjoying the hell out of this series so far. It's not flashy or dashy, which I can semi-blame on the muted color palette, but other than that throughout these last two issues I've really enjoyed the decent humor pairing with the who's who/what's what of heist mechanics in the MU. I'm definitely looking forward to this series gaining more steam.