The government: * exists *
-The government should not take away guns.
-The government should respect the Bill of Rights.
-The government should balance the budget.
Socialism is when the government does something, and the more somethings it does, the more Soclialister it is.
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the government should, because we live in a society
This sub is a cesspool of low effort, over simplifying memes.
We can't have Government but not Government, so we need Government to do both until it does neither, which will never happen!
Should the government enforce the law not to murder? -No
Come on r/libertarian, you're better than this.
Yeah like this just looks like yall are brainwashed to hate the government.
Should the government protect private property?
“... protect property interests?”
Welcome to r/anarchism, y’all!
Hey I went to high school with that guy.
Should the *federal government
That reminds me a little anecdote. My mom was on the local school board back in the late 90s. They wanted to pass a bond, and toward that end they hired a consultant to advise them. One of the things the consultant told them was "There is a subset of the voters who always show up to vote, and they always vote No on any expenditures. You will never sway them, so don't waste your time." Mom relayed this with a laugh that "they're on to us".
Ah yes, blind rhetoric that pushes the “every single thing the government does is bad” narrative. That’s exactly what we need.
lol at this being a real ideology that people actually think has important insights into how the world should work
... "leave us alone?"
... Build roads?
*Looks at the castle doctrine.*
Okay? Witty observation I guess, but completely worthless.
The government calls violently kidnapping a child rapist their own law, because no shit?
Get this ancap shit out of here man.
But it says 2016
I also want maternity leave, even though I am childless, and a man. Because paid time off is awesome. But that shouldn't have any government involvement.
It's called vacation time and you should have it already.
I am always suspicious of out of context screencaps like this though. What is she actually wanting in the article.
Read the article. She basically wants like a 3 month vacation once every 10 years or so and men get it too. Doesn't seem unreasonable to me at all.
This is why I hate posts like this. It just radicalizes people. She's not asking for anything insane and not demanding the government provide it. She said she took a leave of absence from work herself to do this because she's getting burned out and wrote a book about it. Fictional novel.
She then realized she liked working and it was a waste of time.
Shouldn't this be between the employer and the employee? Why are you so anti-free-market?
This isn't a libertarian issue. People are welcome to want time off, or to take time off in agreement with their employer.
Is she wanting this to be a government decision? Or is this a decision between the employer and employee? Because an employer can do this if they are fine with it
Oh no, a productive employee wants something from their employer! They must be socialist, because all us good capitalists never, ever, ever ask for anything except what our kind, benevolent owners bestow upon us.
I guess we'll toss "asking for some time off" onto the pile of "things that comprise socialism in r/libertarian".
It's getting to be a pretty big pile.
First, I agree with everyone that says this should be an employee / employer thing and that government should stay out of it.
Second, I support this. For men and women. You shouldn’t be penalized for not having a kid or being a guy. Especially when you’re the one that picks up the slack when someone else is on maternity leave.
New Belgium Brewing has a 93% employee retention rate and gives their employees a 4 week paid sabbatical after 10, 20, and 30 years of employment on top of their PTO.
She just wants a vacation. The story shouldn't revolve around a joke, but it does because "I want reasonable vacation time" isn't a very interesting title.
Who cares? If an employer wants to give it to them, then let them. my employer gives me "bonding leave" which I used when I got a new rescue dog. 3 weeks off to stay home and bond with the new dog and make sure he got along with my existing dogs.
It's a private employer making private decisions.
Wait, so I'm a socialist here. Don't want to start an argument, I just follow this sub to see what Libertarians think/discuss. And I'm surprised at this post. Are libertarians anti-feminists? Or do they just believe that the feminism of 'today' is no good?
It is dumb, but I don't blame her. If it would have otherwise been provided to you if you choose to have a kid, why can you not have it for choosing not to, as devil's advocate. Seems kinda like cashing in unused vacation time.
And the fact that this article is from 2+ years ago shows the state of intellectual honesty in 2018
She's not a socialist, and this isn't socialism. Checking out her articles in Self, I notice she writes a lot about investment and finance. She's a capitalist.
And she's a rather silly and easy target. Basically writes cosmo articles.
"Your criminal records have also been expunged. However, I have to warn you against breaking any laws in the future.""Question. What if I see something that I wanna take and it belongs to someone else?""Then you will be arrested.""But what if I want it more than the person who has it?""Still illegal.""That doesn't follow. No, I want it more, sir. Do you understand me? What are you laughing at? What? I can't have a discussion with this gentleman?"
-Rocket Raccoon (or any statist)
That's a picture from an article written in early 2016 but sure I get the idea.
This is so spot on. Take their complaints about income disparity, which averages the incomes of all men and women across all careers. Thats not a call for gender equality, thats just a backdoor to socialism.
In my experience, wealthy, succesful women have to deal with a lot of hostility from “feminists”.
No OP. This is some clickbaity karma whoring.
"I'm a non-smoker and want smoke breaks too"
I mean...good logic and all, but this is the internet, so fuck that
This is why I love owning a business. If you come to me with something like this, I immediately show you the door.
She looks like my highschool chemistry teacher
Someone Shoot Me Plz
So.... A leave of absence??
U must gib timez off ma-le
Think the term she's looking for is "Paid Time Off." Maternity leave is for those that have kids. Otherwise you're just a regular person requesting time off, nothing special about you.
I don’t even know what the word feminism means anymore.
It's been that way for a long time.
I want, I deserve, I ought to have X instead of working for it.
Heyyyy libertarian socialist here... The sentiment in that headline is insanely stupid IMO and without the text of the article I can only assume (hope) it's click bait. Please don't label anything you don't like as socialism because it's often far from the mark. Criticize real socialist positions all you want, totally fair, but please don't lump in stupid stuff like this...
Abortion, contraception and medical care are still relaxant issues.
wtf I identify as a woman now.
This is such a bad post. First, this has nothing to do with libertarianism. Second, if you actually look into this, that’s not what this woman is saying at all. She wrote a FICTIONAL book where a character fakes pregnancy for maternity leave. Do some bloody research
I want to park in the handicap space, but without being disabled.
how are you people this moronic. this sub makes me feel like the most educated person on earth
Being fat will help.
This cant be real can it?
So she wants to be a housewife? Isn't that the opposite of feminism?
There’s something about saying “I need to go pick up my child” as a reason to leave the office on time that has far more gravitas than, say, “My best friend just got ghosted by her OkCupid date and needs a margarita” — but both sides are valid.
No, they're not.
entitlement is a mental disorder
you are not special.
you are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.
you are the same decaying organic matter as everything else.
She will just have cats and demand daycare subsidy.
"i want unemployment, disability, and reparations. even though I'm a working able bodied white cunt"
Why is this on this sub?
backed by the full faith and credit of the united states government
weird way of spelling "nothing"
Lol big surprise a leftist doesn't understand basic economics. Creating currency just divides the wealth into smaller fractions. That's like saying the pizza cutter is what makes pizza
You can't argue with people who don't understand logic or have any concept of common sense.
I feel your pain, but just as a note...
Everyone who participates (fairly) in the economy, at every level, creates wealth. Risk-taking entrepreneurs create wealth. Broom-pushing janitors create wealth. Consumers create wealth. Each is absolutely vital to the equation. Don't be tempted to subscribe to that Romney-nomics perspective that everyone below the entrepreneur is some kind of leach.
It doesn't create wealth.
But nobody is forcing you to use govt/fed printed money if you don't like. Use gold or stocks instead
Wow. I always thought it was a gotcha type argument when asked if endless wealth can be created by printing money. I see now that I underestimate the ability of your average economic ignoramus to consider the most simple logic.
Rothbard's Anatomy of the State is a pretty good read. He essentially said that government associates one's homeland with the state itself, so people's natural pride in their homeland turns into patriotism for the state. Felt like it was relevant here.
So in the perfect libertarian state, libertarians don't respect other people's property rights? It's just "arbitrarily defined land"?
It's so crazy that the movement can't get more than 3% of the vote with positions like that, gnome sane?
But the free market on this sub has decided that socialism sux.
I agree though. I like a few good memes here and there to balance out this subreddit, but we should be talking about Libertarianism and the future of Libertarianism.
Ending the war on drugs?
Ending domestic surveillance.
Using the armed forces for defense only.
taxation is theft.
Mistrust of authority, limitation of the State, and killing tyranny.
Opposition to the state enforced death penalty. Not on moral grounds, but on limiting state power.
I never understood the logic behind restricting highly skilled immigration. It's literally a win-win for the destination country- you get a highly skilled person which is a loss for the source country (aka your competitor).
Careful, all the "libertarians" are gonna come at you with how its okay to take away rights because of welfare.
Open borders would destroy western civilisation. If that is your goal then I can see what you might be in favour of it.
I actually want way more borders. The amount you'd have in a private property society.
Open borders is what lead to the downfall of the Western Roman Empire. You can’t have a welfare state AND free immigration (I remember hearing a famous speaker say that but I cannot remember his name).
For my fellow open-borders chums:
"... libertarians who see the welfare state as an argument for restricting immigration are straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel." lol caplan, always so good at owning the cons
So was I.
Maybe I’m not a “full-fledged” libertarian. I think government is very useful when it’s role is reduced to national security and protection of personal property. While I don’t think protected borders is an absolute necessity for national security, I do see it as a means of reducing the variables that could cause problems.
Keep them out of the free market, get rid of (or privatize) regulations, get rid of all laws that don’t deal directly with violence or damage to personal property and I’m pretty happy.
Seriously though, I think we should strongly consider ditching the term "open borders" in favor of "decentralized immigration" or "unregulated immigration". Or, better yet, "Shall Issue Immigration", the idea being that Green Cards, like CCW Permits, shall be issued to all immigrants who apply and meet some basic, objective criteria (no criminal convictions, promise to pay taxes/not use welfare).
"Open borders" makes too many people think of a horde of Huns sweeping over the hill and destroying your country, or a boat full of migrants just turning up and snatching welfare money and voting. But that's not what is truly meant by "open borders".
What we mean is that people would be able to emigrate legally from one place to another with few, if any restrictions. "Legally" is a very important word, because it means there is still some government control of the process--immigrants are checked for a criminal record, for instance--but not the kind of government control we have currently, where the govt. excludes the vast majority of would-be immigrants from coming here legally and then makes it very difficult for the few who will be allowed in legally to come here at all.
TLDR: I do not think the term "open borders" is helpful to persuading people of the merits of the policy.
Open borders DO NOT WORK
We've tried it in Europe and all it has achieved is pissing off the working and lower-middle classes
By pushing this contraversial issue you are alienating potential libertarian voters
Poll after poll taken here in the UK has shown that the vast majority of people want a reduction in immigration, and a majority want a DRASTIC reduction, we will not gain any support by being the "party of open borders"
I've pointed out before, that with both open borders and no minimum wage, the influx of poorer workers from other countries will stagnate low education jobs and hurt the middle class. I have no idea how it can be implemented without utterly gutting the middle class.
If you want more than two parties to be viable, then advocate for an election system where competition doesn't necessarily lead to two parties.
Fantastic meme honestly, but what makes libertarians think they would have more success in a multi-party electoral system? The ideology is simply unpopular
Okay, I actually laughed at this one. This is the best meme I've seen here in months, kudos
Museum of horrors.
I hate the two party system so much.
We need to reform the electoral system to encourage political diversity rather than stifle it. In other words: single transferable vote, multi seat electorates, proportional representation and ban gerrymandering
I'm glad i have a left wing party in my country.
More like two sides Of the same coin
might vote Libertarian in the next Canadian federal election.
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