They can brag about "toxic gamers" as much as they want.
After all, I spend no money on keeping them alive.
That's the thing I don't get. Gamers buy games. If you make a shitty game, people don't buy it. If you make a habit of tarnishing your brand by releasing shitty games (or comics, or movies, etc.), eventually people stop patronizing your business. I don't want to say "the customer is always right," but the customer is the only one giving you money. You can appeal to different clientele, but what we've been seeing for several years is this suicidal business ethos where the people least likely to spend money on your products is now dictating the design process.
Someone do a version for movies now. You alt-right trolls who hates CM because females, but in reality hate it because it was a subpar movie, the marketing around it sucked, and the lead actress was a giant racist cunt when talking about potential customers.
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Can’t agree more. You should also add “You’re a Chauvinist pig for not liking this game” as well.
Just goes to show that the people selling games have never worked a real job in their lives. Game developers are SPOILED compared to restaurants and retail stores, if I was ever caught in public badmouthing my customers the way devs and journos do, I would have been FIRED ON THE SPOT.
In the hobbyist small electronics industry you say "This isn't very good" and then the waiter falls over revealing he was a cardboard cutout the whole time. Then you stand up to find yourself in a vacant lot with a table.
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Kind of low effort circle jerk garbage.
This comic is wrong and bad for like a million reasons
Love the bearded nu-male. Spot on hipster faggot
When Peterson suggests people should start taking control of their lives by cleaning their rooms...that shit is worse than arbeit macht frei.
We've moved from Jordan Peterson is a Nazi to Jordan person is worse than Hitler.
My understanding of the 12 rules is they are much, much closer to a guide to de-radicalization than anything else. I've never read anything more than a summary of them, but holy shit, how can anyone who has even read them believe for a moment that 'Pet a cat when you encounter on on the street' is a path to shooting up a church?
Like even for one fucking second?
Can sombady explaine why the author is controversial? Most of the rules sound like they are reasonable, and some sound like jokes in the end like pet cats and do not do not bother children when they are skateboarding.....
Tim Pool doesn’t fuck around.
The mass murderer responsible for this was, in part, trying to provoke a massive overreaction from the NZ authorities. NZ authorities have responded magnificently. How far down the slippery slope is NZ going to take this as they crack down on "alt right" speech?
I mean look at how they are reacting to the video of the crime. I don't want to watch it. I would prefer people not watch it. But I wouldn't start blocking whole swathes of the Internet and threatening massive prison sentences to stop people from watching it.
Mein Kampf is a consistent big seller in the Islamic world. They’d be fools to ban it.
Clearly they're acting against supporters of alt-right Terrorism like *Shuffles Deck* Jordan Peterson.
The 12 rules for life? Come on. I mean...
Stand up straight with your shoulders back.
Treat yourself like someone you are responsible for helping.
Secure the existence of your people and a future for white children.
Make friends with people who want the best for you.
Seriously, who could object to this stuff?!
The complete lack of common sense in this race towards "righteouness" is disturbing.
couldnt make this shit up if i wanted to
Seriously. The book is a layman educational book about normal clinical psychology. It's not edgy or extreme in any way or form
Jordan Peterson is more of a threat to the Left's power than Hitler. Peterson talks about basic adult behavior, but the Left doesn't want adults.
Ah yes,the ol clean your bedroom Nazi rhetoric
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i don't agree with ever banning any books or censorship of any kind, but Hitler's book is a work of recent history & is probably used in a lot of academics already for the purposes of study
Neither of those books should be banned
maybe the good people at whitcoulls think jordan patterson is just controlled opposition and is drawing young white people away from the true calling of white ethnonationalism.
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I am not a fan personally, but the mainstream media wanted to silence him for long. This was their perfect opportunity, and to reinforce moderate=right wing=far right=neonazi=terrorist
Ironically whenever it’s a muslim terrorist attack I don’t see muslim scholars getting taken down (which I agree they shouldn’t, guilty of association is a slippery slope to actual hitler)
Every notice how radical far left liberals like antifa terrorists and communists are nerve censored or condemned?
pretty sure Mein Kampf was only banned in Germany, they lift the ban some time ago i think.
Mein Kampf is a hit in Muslim countries so it would be islamophobic to ban it. Peterson's books are geared towards young white men though so it's a dangerous hatebook
A shooting caused not just 50 or so deaths but also a wave of mindless censorship - which I think are comparably awful.
Mein Kampf is an identitarian screed, 12 Rules for Life is anti-identitarian. It should be obvious which of the two is more offensive to progressives.
Time to play Muslim prayers from loudspeakers while wearing a tent over their heads.
Go full retard, everywhere.
I'm here from r/all and was looking at the right to see what sub this is.
KotakuInAction is the main hub for GamerGate on Reddit and welcomes discussion of community, industry and media issues in gaming and broader nerd culture including science fiction and comics.
How does this post fit into this? I am geniunely curious cause this has nothing to do with gaming or a "broader nerd culture", or does it?
Awwww Timmy the Naive continues his journey to wokeness.
This is being done to attempt to legitimize (((Jordan Peterson's))) veiled Zionist, anti-action tenets in the eyes of young white men who are getting sick of (((the powers that be.))) He's controlled opposition.
Lol. Another botted post by the T_D brigade.
They never had it.
Comparing your idol with Hitler. Nice.
"It only took one fascist to turn NZ into a fascist nation" - Sargon of Akkad. Sad but true :(
They're banning all auto/semi auto weapons, have already locked out several websites and are charging an 18 year old in court for sharing a video online. Now we're banning books...
Important to mention. No link to the Daily Dot article here. Not even to the archive. It links to a sitewide banned website into it.
I already know how this event will be covered by worthless jorurnos:
"BLAME EVERYONE EXCEPT THE SHOOTER"
Remember everyone, wanting journalists to disclose conflict-of-interest relationships and sponsorships, wanting freedom of speech on public platforms, wanting an unbiased and nonpartisan reporting of the facts, wanting corporations to not meddle with and gaslight public perception, wanting equal treatment for all people before the law, wanting all people to have access to and to play the games they want without political intervention breaking the fourth wall and endlessly tainting and interfering with immersion, wanting lying social parasites, who cry wolf over make-believe problems and who wallow in Twitter's collective outrage sympathy, to be ignored and held in contempt and dismay, THAT'S JUST OEN BIG DOG WHISTLE FOR MURDER FUCKING MUSLIMS, RIGHT? THAT MAKES SENSE, RIGHT GUYS? FFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUJ
Takes a look at the screenshot
Ah, Ana Valens, have you fallen so far? The person who had, as SpaceDoctorPhd (which she still goes by on Twitter) analyzed in-depth the abusive behavior of Zoe Quinn and was friendly with prominent GamerGate supporters like Nicole Sund/CultOfVivian?
Ana has truly completed the transformation into a garbage journalist willing to do anything for money. I wonder how people like Nicole feel now that Ana's transformed into a hideous, libelous blogger who must have been salivating at a chance to link still-warm dead bodies to GamerGate, regardless of whether it makes any sense?
I suppose it's easy to throw away morals, principles, even past friendships when clickbait money is dangled in one's face. Or perhaps Ana's enjoying the knowledge that she can puke up whatever garbage she likes and the readership will hang on her every word.
SPEZ: Beast, dot, what's the difference.
its roots are in gamergate
No they're not, you outright fucking liar.
You are fake news.
GamerGate told Lucifer to rebel.
Maybe, just for once, we could... I don't know, this is gonna sound crazy but..... just maybe we could BLAME THE PERSON THAT COMMITTED THE CRIME AND NOT A WEBSITE, IDEOLOGY, INANIMATE OBJECT, OR PEOPLE THAT WEREN'T THE FUCKING CRIMINAL!!!
8chan predates gg, you are fake news.
Imagine playing into the shooter's goals because gAmeRgaTE
Why is everyone so quick to politicize it? It's barely been a day and everyone wants to point fingers at everyone else.
Trying to politicize it just leads to everyone fighting over who is in the wrong, and makes everyone look awful by pointing fingers during a tragedy.
There are multiple mass shootings committed by black Americans every day in America. What is at the root of that? What should be banned because of it?
Funny how the media never asks those questions of a much more pressing situation when it comes to mass shootings. Funny how the media never even mentions those mass shootings. It's almost as if the media has an agenda.
Doing exactly what the shooter explicitly wrote that he wanted you to do in his manifesto isn't exactly a winning strategy.
Wait, I thought Gamergate was a hate campaign against women in games, not Muslims. I guess it's my fault for expecting a modicum of consistency on their part.
We have easily the stupidest, most fanatically ignorant, hysterical media in the world.
HE LIVETREAMED IT ON FACEBOOK
Who is this hacker 8 Chan?
Don’t feed the trolls, folks. She’s just in it for the attention/clicks. Don’t buy into it.
How can someone so misunderstand the internet and yet still use it to export their opinion ?
Make sure to call them Russian Bots too, these hacks are joke.
I say we go all regressive left on them and start whining about how it's "not all right-wingers" and if you associate the far-right with terrorism you are being bigoted and intolerant. We should shriek about how "the far-right is an ideology of peace!" at every possible opportunity.
So what they're saying is that it's moots' fault since 8chan wouldn't have existed if he hadn't banned people for talking about the zoe post right? /s
Back where we started, here we go round again
Did the shooter even say anything about Gamergate in the manifesto?
Wtf does this shooting have to do with gamergate? He was mad about immigration.
It's amazing how quickly and just consistently the Progressive media is using this tragedy to attack literally any and all political & ideological opponents.
Nary a word whispered for all the Islamic terrorism that occurred in even the month prior though.
Using the still warm bodies as cudgels and the blood to smear people who had nothing to do with it is a new low, even for the incredibly low and pathetic standards of the mainstream media.
Shame on them, wish I could say it was surprising though.
Gamergate are the root of all evil, they told Eve to eat the fruit.
Basically misogyny and sexism.
Did the shooter drink water? OMG IM A SHOOTER!!!!! HALP!
I also heard the shooter liked bananas. Isn't it about time we banned this weaponised fruit?
All the media and lefties are playing into EXACTLY what the autistic sperg terrorist wanted. They're so retarded it's unreal.
It's not entirely wrong.
GG saw the first instance of large scale censorship on 4chan, leading to 8chan's slow rise in popularity. It's on 8chan that the people no longer allowed to express themselves on 4chan gather, making it, in many instances, even more extreme than 4chan today.
The correct thing to say, however, would be that censorship is at the root of the shooting, not the platforms and events involved in said censorship.
8chan and 4chan are now blocked completely in NZ because of this tragedy... but farcebook (were the shooter livestreamed) is still up and without any form of guilt on them. Mainstream media is a joke.
That’s right blame everyone and everything except the guy who actually did it! Let’s ignore his 87 page manifesto and just be sjw’s again. Fuck the actual facts about this whole thing I have a personal agenda to push because my feelings are more important then actual facts..... Seriously fuck these morons. Gamergate has nothing to do with this and they just want a scapegoat to push a lie yet again. Fuck all media websites
Didn't he stream the shooting on facebook? I say they're responsible and await the lawsuits from the victims' families
mass shooting happens
Bring it on, you scrublord journos.
Same old shit again.
I really hate it when article titles have these dashes. Its like they are trying to make the reader gasp.
Beware the dangerous memes
So, uh, is GG the root of 8ch or 8ch the root of GG? I can't keep up anymore.
Look, the shooter or shooters involved are cuckoo bananas. You have to be to shoot up any group of people completely unprompted and write a manifesto about why.
You could blame Donald Trump, Gamergate, Pewdiepie or the imaginary pink bunnies on the moon. At some point, you have to put the outrage hammer down and remember that most people aren't shooting up mosques, schools or whatever.
This whole "normalizing" thing people keep on talking about?
Well, people are who they are. If they were assholes before Donald Trump, they were probably doing asshole things before Trump was elected president. If Hillary Clinton were president, chances are this same manifesto would have been released saying that we need a rise in white supremacy because Clinton is leading the world in flooding the homeland with dirty Muslims or other ridiculous claims.
Plain and simple: when you have someone that's cuckoo bananas on your hands, you don't start by cherry-picking the things you agree with from what they're saying. Everything they say should be equally suspect and equally dismissible.
Huh, at this point the journalists think we have more manpower and influence than Scientology and Hollywood combined.
But what about THQ's AMA held just a week before this?
THQ clearly had its hands in this one
Why did you force me to do this?
Nothing like using a tragedy to further your own agenda. /s
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15% is not enough.
Sometimes I wish gamergate as a movement would had gotten some form of minimallly corporatized structure, with a name and brand... So it would sue everyone and their fucking mother every time this shit happens, Every 2 weeks now?
As Gad Saad says, let's go back in history until we find the villain that we like.
Never let a good tragedy go to waste. Fucking scum
This makes about as much sense as claiming that the asshole clearly engaged in identity politics, which is at the core of the ctrl-left's politics. They really must still actively, vigorously hate us to construct headlines like that. People were murdered, you tone-deaf wankers! For media attention! By a fucked-in-the-head neo-nazi! And all you can think about how to stick it to these "misogynerds".
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I thought this shooter was a communist?
Last time it was the Shooting in 3 shootings in Florida, and in Pittsburgh synagogue shooting what else linking a hashtag to this shit?
What exactly is the issue here? The terrorist kept posting about what he'd do on 8chan and seems to have been an active participant of that community. . 8chan, in turn, was created for/by gamergaters who got upset at 4chan.
When he explicitly stated his motive for his terrorism, and "journalists" just gloss over or ignore that and press on with narrative building and pointing blame, doing exactly what he wanted, I don't know how much I have it in me not to clap back and fulfill that monster's wishes.
Clearly we need an international nonbinary day to right this injustice.
I take the messaging as kinda like "America has fallen, let's save what's left of it" similar to MW2's Marketing. I really dont see it as "America should burn".
Seems more patriotic than anything really.
They realize you're an American sleeper agent working out of the whitehouse fighting anarchists, right?
Sounds like another Far Cry 5 to me
Now I'm curious as to what political statement VG24/7 thinks that marketing campaign holds.
I think it's just a poster of a 'warrior' looking at the remnants of DC after an apocalyptic disaster, but if I'd have to overanalyze it I would say it was a wamyn looking down on the overthrown capitalist imperialistic patriarchy. This is clearly feminist propaganda, so what are VG24/7 whining about?
Apparently, VG247 has their knickers in a bunch over this Tweet from The Division 2 about Mexico sending troops to the border and building a wall to keep Americans fleeing the plague.
Bad form on Ubisoft's part but VG247 is just going for hate clicks.
That which strives to be topical has planned its own obsolescence.
If SJWs believed what they claim, that everything is political, no marketing campaign would change whether the game is political or not.
I'll be too busy playing the game to give a fuck about what NPC's say.
Player with over 1k hours in the Division and about 50 hours into the various beta/technical tests for the Division 2.
“I wonder what kind of politics a Tom Clancy franchise will have?”
If it's anything near as good as the last time the idiots went ape-shit, I'll be pre-ordering. Two of the best games I played most in 2018 were FC5 and Kingdom Come.
I didn’t really think of it before as it has no real political leanings but now I will imagine I’m one of the remaining Trump supporting agents fighting off the remaining Antifa faggots that get a hard on for destruction and anarchy.
It's slightly pro guns. Watch the intro. The game is good.
Image captures are trash. Archive links.
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Kirk can you show us on the dolly where Ubisoft touched you?
So is division 2 a pure multiplayer/pvp game or is it more like Far Cry or what?
Is the political message "FUCK YOU GOVERNMENT, FUCK YOU CORPORATIONS!"?
This is why I kind of appreciate the Ubisoft devs behind Far cry 5/ New dawn & now this, the only politics are the in-universe/in-world struggles between individuals
Vg247 thinks it has the wrong political message? Time to boost those pre-order numbers!
Part of the reason I'm avoiding The Division 2 - other than just not being terribly impressed with the beta and disagreeing with several design changes since the original - is that it feels like it's really straddling the politicization line. Advertising campaigns like "Take Back The Capitol" at a time when the left is waging an overt campaign to impeach and remove the current US President make me feel like this Swedish development studio is being not-so-secretive with their political leanings.
People need to learn to tell the difference between political and partisan.It's apolitical only in so far as it's not commenting on the politics of the day, it's not picking a side in today's squabbles.
The game is about rebuilding the US after it collapses, that's its politics.
The Division 2 is weird because the marketing is trying to keep things apolitical while the devs themselves are publicly active terrorists.https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/a5lr0a/twitter_bullshit_ubisoft_massive_producer_who/
Normally its the other way around, where the marketing goes overboard with pushing feminist terrorist propaganda while the terrorists in the dev team prefer to lay low (see the whole Battlefield V thing).
Games can't be fun anymore.
What, it doesn't literally say orango man fascist?
Estonian Organization for Copyright Protection
What? Is this a real entity? Does it exist just to copyright claim random stuff or is this more targeted?
Yeah, I had just jumped in to watch this stream a few minutes earlier, when suddenly everything stopped. When I reloaded and saw that company's name -- Estonian Organization for Copyright Claim -- it really seems like some obvious troll, except for the fact that YouTube itself must be generating that name somewhow, so it's legitimate enough for them I guess.
There were no images, music, or anything at all that I could see (though I didn't see the whole stream) that should have been caught by any automated process, so this seems to be deliberate in some way. Just a couple of people talking with a static ME image, that's all. This really has the feel of some third party troublemaker.
Gaming/Nerd Culture +2Censorship +2
The guys were having a general discussion about the movie and the controversy surrounding it. One of the reviewers had seen the movie already, and were taking care specifically not to spoil anything about the movie. The channel generally does good reviews and commentary on videos and activities surrounding it. It's a shame they get taken down.
Estonia? I was hoping for Latveria so we could say Dr. Doom did it.
This is exactly what happened with Steven Crowder's Oscar Stream. YouTube needs to fix it's copyright strike policies.
This how you control your public.
Probably to avoid any spoilers. That's a LOT of money from Disney.
youtube really needs to crack down on the copyright strike trolls and ban them and the people who use them from their platform
Seems they’ve put the name of their COMPANY in the title of this shit show, and they’re terrified at the mistake they’ve made.
I’ll keep my money in my pocket on this one. I mean ... unless it’s so bad that it’s good. It could become Marvel’s own version of The Toxic Avenger, in which case I’ll watch it just so I can tell people I actually saw it.
It is not looking good for this film.
The intro music that ME uses, where is that from?
The harder they push this communist agenda the more people are going to notice. All it's going to take is for Trump to call them out on their behavior and release information that proves their true intentions to spark a world wide revolution.
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I wondered why it wasnt up. At least they own the content and therefore can easily counter claim and sue said company.
They weren't even being super-harsh or insulting about it, either. But odd they got sniped right before going into spoiler talk. Grimy move.
You can’t even talk about it on a stream?
It is back up!
I'm looking for something, anything so insignificant or petty that the Twitter/YouTube/Google/Facebook/Patreon Gulag Archipelago won't try to exercise mind control over it...
... Nope, not here either.
They know Midnight’s Edge is a big channel with influence. Why wouldn’t they want that sweet ad revenue?
Hah I Was looking for this stream, and wondered what had happened.
literal laugh out loud
We (like people who read techdirt.com) always knew copyright would be used for censorship. This is just us being proven correct.
It's Crowder reviewing the Oscars all over again.
Our corporate overlords are starting to exercise their authority in a way we can't really fight.
Can confirm, I was watching it and it just cut out. Refreshed and got the same "Estonia Organization for Copyright Protection" message. Jesus YouTube is a joke.
How do you know they were men, did they say they identified as men?
Lichess is way better, anyway.
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..the gender and race of the director
Imagine for a moment that this individual is actually qualified. How does she feel about the media making this all about her being female and black?
Oh for fucks sake. Who gives a shit.
There is no way this is not going to be terrible, and it's nothing to do with the director. Even at its peak the post TNG Star Trek shows just only barely hovered above mediocrity, occasionally dipping below and rarely rising too high above it. The fact that it's so easy to clone Star Trek in other universes such as Stargate, The Orville and so on just shows how formulaic Star Trek got. It was the space equivalent of procedural cop shows. Not terrible, not good, but watchable if they stick to the formula.
It might have once been NYPD Blue but then it turned into CSI. It never became the Wire.
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Oh, no; they're shilling the race of the creator first, which means it's gonna suck, isn't it?
So what, is this "congratulations on being female and black - you really knocked it out of the park"?
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This misses the part in which you have to use a clickbait thumbnail which is more sexual exploiting than the things you are calling out.
Youtube's 2019 plan; giving pedophiles the power to demonetize other people's content.
Does this mean I can report all that Desmond shit?
we will immediately take action and censor unrelated people we don't like
Wait, so if you aren't famous enough, Youtube will do nothing?
You joke, but that's probably what the original internal memo looked like.
They should just use the same policy they use if somebody criticizes a woman.
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