Everyone should take a good look at that image for how shit it looks like.
Just look at it. It's one of the ugliest things I've laid eyes upon recently. Makes me wonder if they did this on purpose to make it repulsive.
Conspicuously absent from the sale: Heartbeat
Being brown is a sexuality now?
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It's the Philadelphia Pride Flag
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Black lives matters and other racial supremacist groups have been hijacking LGBT shit for a while now to the point of taking over and interfering with pride celebrations. They just accept it because it would be "racist" not to.
Good to know GDQ still isn't worth my time.
Games Done Queer I guess.
What happens if, when asked, you say "Whatever" "I don't care" "All of them"?
Pointless when there's like what, 1% of runners that won't have the default ones? And the ones that won't have the default ones are glaringly obvious.
Oh that is creepy. What happens if you don't give a pronoun, ban?
DEPLOY PRONOUN SCREEN
YOU HAVE FIVE SECONDS TO COMPLY
To think I used to take time off from work to watch GDQ, how far they have fallen...
I watched SGDQ this year against my better judgement. Boy is it getting cringey. Puns are pretty much the only jokes allowed now and it feels like 50% of the runners are trans.
i cant wrap my head around how the far left nutjobs managed to force that shit onto us, there wasnt any social debate about it, they just introduced it and enforce it as the new norm.its infuriating beyond believe. idk whom i despise more, the far left fucks or the sheep who blindly accept it.
My pronouns are Vote/Trump. I'm sure that would go over swimmingly.
I miss the old gdq. About a couple years ago they started going full Hitler against anyone that slightly went off script or slightly offended anyone. The offenses don't even have to make sense or even really happen. All it takes is one transexual to point a finger and it's instant ban hammer. I got more enjoyment out of dance dad in the audience than anything else the announcers or their cringe awkward breaks they would do to promote gdq.
This is embarrassing
I got banned permanently a while ago for posting the word "they" and using the CmonBruh emote. LoL
Holy fuck lmao
My pronouns are “The Lord thy God,” and “Almighty God,” and I expect to be referred to as such. I identify as a God, far superior to you. Show some respect.
I do t know why but seeing the players are cos males amuses me.
I stopped watching this shitshow 3 years ago. Glad I did.
What does "more real estate" mean? Not english tonguer.
This is how you force them to either embrace the bullshit or face reality.
Then every 5 minutes change them and claim genderfluidity
Are you actually shitting me.
This is in response to the incident at GDQX where half the chat was banned for calling a man who looked like a man a man when he wanted to be called a woman with no indication of anything.
I first met CoolMatty on a Jedi Knight mod site called called massassi.net in 2001. He rose through their mod ranks there and actually ended up taking ownership of the site. He was an absolute nazi back then and to see him causing the same shit on a much larger scale now is just sad.
I'm a simple man, I see a tranny, I unsub and go somewhere else
At no point in my life had I ever had to stick my dick into a coin slot to confirm my gender identity to play a game.Whatever happened to just playing games like normal people?
Hasn't GDQ been nothing but trannies and freaks for years?
I've been having much more fun watching ESA (European Speedrunner Assembly) over GDQ. I miss when GDQ had their non-speedrun aftershows. Give me more competitive team Mario Party 2!
Also, I thankfully haven't yet, but if I was ever required to provide pronouns for anything they would be brrt/brrrt
Like to throw the reruns on while I wind down for bed.
This week I seen the forced pronouns and just went to bed without stimulation. Much better tbh.
What happens if you're from a Swahili speaking African country, which doesn't have pronouns in their grammar? Or if you're from a country that uses gender inflected nouns and adjectives, then you'll need a lot more words to reflect your gender.
I don't think they've taken other cultures into account.
I only recently found out about Games Done Quick and really liked the concept. Skilled players speed running games for charity is a cool idea. But it felt so tame that it got a little boring and I’d only watch games I knew well. I’d watch any game even if I knew nothing about it if the enthusiasm and humor were there.
It’s like what Incontrol brought to the Starcraft scene. Passion and humor.
You may address me as "The artist formerly known as "The magnificent pussylover 69""
This is just getting fucking stupid.
Is it helpful since 99.9% of the population go by the gender that corresponds with their sex? Seems like a solution in search of a problem.
I saw something last year about a dumbass LGB panel they had. Noone gives a shit, it's about speed running and charity. Fucking rainbow cunts hijacking a good cause and causing shit over a problem that didn't exist.
Guess I'll move to doing local charity work and stop donating to these cunts, nice job guys!
My pronouns are Nigger/Bidenisapaedo
What the fuck is this?
There is nothing more obnoxious than pronoun declaration. Like honestly, in any form; even when ASKED about them.
The only way to watch GDQ anymore is on mute.
I get this feeling that despite GDQ's efforts, and to their chagrin, there were still a lot of "he/him's" this year.
I noticed this a little while ago.
They have some...interesting...runners now.
I think it was last week there was a booger (didn't see them but had a very masculine voice) that kept referring to themselves as female. Like it wasn't a problem at first but got distracting after you realized what they were doing. Kept going out of their way to say things like "I'm a very lucky girl" and "I'm the queen of...". I mean it was enough to notice. It was as if someone got a haircut and kept doing and sayings things to get you to ask if they got a new haircut.
I'm not sure what they were trying to do. Trying to goad people into saying something? Nobody gave a shit.
My prounums are nig and ger, please obey or you go to jail.
Forcing or did they do this out of their own volition?
This is nothing but a screenshot of a stream.
My preferred pronouns are goy/goyim
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Wow. That's dumb.
This is absurdity. FFS, these are two guys, we don't need anything to TELL us that.
I remember when GDQ was actually about supporting charity not a circus side show.
It's disgusting how they will coopt anything.
Its sickening when you think why this is being done.
So, it's confirmed you have to select pronouns?
Are the options preset? If not, can you enter stuff like:
POO/ASS (in honor of Homer Simpson bowling episode)
The only good thing about gdq is the donations and the "best bits" videos that happen after some hoon goes to town on a fem*les chair.
Is Keizaron streaming from his aunt's guest bedroom?
Wait, they make them include their pronouns?
Good grief. I'd make mine Bloodguard (feck/off).
The Worldeater / Their Divine Majesty
tbh i dont know who is more mentall ill: the transgenders or the speedrunning community. and these 2 communitites overlap a lot.
I think they already dropped this. The most recent event (GDQx) didn't have pronouns on any run (that I watched), and this is from an event before that. We'll see how it goes for AGDQ 2020 but I don't think they got a good reception on it.
Stopped watching when they banned Werster. How do you ban the apex autist, and expect people to be okay with that?
雄/彼, and if you can't pronounce, read, or write it then fuck you, you white colonizing bastard.
Oh boi, Imagine if peoplw started making stupid joke potential "hentai/ lolicon"
Unrelated, but I see that's Titanfall 2 being ran in this pic. It's a good game.
Do you have any proof that GDQ is forcing them to do this?
Its literally the same size
Jesus Christ I thought they were supposed to be the easily rustled ones.
Although i agree this pronoun shit is dumb you can't seriously think that having like 5 extra characters on the screen is any real burden
It's really a non-issue, and it's funny that the group that paints everyone as sjw snowflakes get their panties in a bunch about the smallest of things.
How can you be mad at this?
Oh no, the world is coming to an end, it'll be fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling. Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria!
... Or this just might be a pointless thing not worth getting your titans in a twist over. One of the two.
Though we all know it's all part of the massive left/SJW/Jew/cyclist/Hillary/reptoid/ancient Egyptian conspiracy anyway.
I've always wondered; why do they always specify both "he" and "him"? Are there people out there who prefer mixed pronouns or something?
a bit overboard on the hatred of a couple flags, but he should have known the people behind the game were willing to push crap like that when IGN gave an indie game a 10/10, reviews like that don't come around from a game being quality anymore, they come around from shilling politics
Here's the thing: Freedom of speech allows creators to create the kind of game they want. Unless OAG has evidence this was made in response to outside pressure, he can stew in a corner.
Well, it is called One Angry Gamer...
OAG was quite a solid source of industry info a year or two ago, but fuck me this is utter cringe. He does more damage to our cause than anything else as he just gives all the journas ammo to strawman him as 'all gamers'.
Seems like a joke to me, especially the vaping part. The flag stuff is stupid, but even worse are insecure losers like Laura Kate Dale cheering about a fictional character maybe having the same issues with self-centeredness as he does.
However unhinged this comes off as, I do think it's prudent to be careful how much you introduce information about what it means to be trans to children, because obviously there's a lot there that might be confusing for them to process and could lead to some wild misinterpretations and/or fears. They don't have a real good grasp on what it means to be any gender or what the ultimate consequences are. It's similar to withholding other kinds of information from children until they're ready for it. Unless of course they're one of the extreme minority who have the severe psychological conditions that need attention and might signal that they have gender identity issues.
I would say for instance keep it out of say Spongebob or Pokemon or something like that, but just because a game is rated E for Everyone doesn't mean it's necessarily for children. That just means it's appropriate for them and two flags in the background that most children are not going to notice is hardly a need to change the rating. I doubt Celeste is even that appealing to children, at least not in the same way it is to adult hardcore gamers. The whole Smash Bros. flag situation was a whole different thing with a way different context.
I don't even like Celeste or the developer of it either, but clearly they're not crossing a line here like Jessica Yaniv or those child drag queens who perform at clubs. If you're against censorship, one would think that means you're against pressuring people to remove ANY ideas from their works based on social censure, not just the ideas that you like.
Wheres the "witch hunt?"
I’ve seen OAG go from reporting on games that got censored/“woke” to being full of anti-LBGT and other just BS stuff
I’ve never blocked anyone on Twitter that isn’t a bot, OAG became the first.
Some of the people in the comment section there are insane.
This is almost exactly like the people who bitched about Catherine: Full Body being transphobic. Get over your shit and let artists make the games that they want to make. Whining about cultural degeneracy because a pixel art game deigns to include some allusion to sexuality or politics is terribly immature, "we live in a society" type shit.
If you don't like it, don't buy it.
We all know Billy is an unhinged prick, but most his shit I can't find anywhere else so I tolerate it. That being said, I'm so tired of alphabet soup shit being pushed in absolutely everything that I can at least support the rage fit, if not the witch hunt.
The archived link to the article, "Celeste Update Includes Gay And Trans Pride Flags", can be found here.
Now granted, the piece in question is from September 11. And OAG being...well, OAG, is all but a given. But it's been popping up over on social media. And more than anything, it highlights just how unprofessional and far gone that site's gone. Especially since he's targeting Celeste and its creator for adding trans and pride flags. Ones that are barely even visible at that.
Not to mention all the hyperbolic smearing:
Matt Makes Games’ Celeste was always suspected of being a game themed around Left-wing propaganda, but there was never any definitive proof. Well, the latest expansion makes it clear exactly what kind of politics the game’s developers are trying to promote, and it casts all doubts aside.... ...What did I tell you all before? Celeste was a gateway that leads you down a road toward the destruction of Western civilization. Then again, this should have been pretty obvious to anyone who was paying close attention to Matt Makes Games over the years, from banning discussion about their inclusion of Anita Sarkeesian in the game Towerfall, to their appearance at the 2018 Game Awards. The signs were always present.
Matt Makes Games’ Celeste was always suspected of being a game themed around Left-wing propaganda, but there was never any definitive proof. Well, the latest expansion makes it clear exactly what kind of politics the game’s developers are trying to promote, and it casts all doubts aside....
...What did I tell you all before? Celeste was a gateway that leads you down a road toward the destruction of Western civilization.
Then again, this should have been pretty obvious to anyone who was paying close attention to Matt Makes Games over the years, from banning discussion about their inclusion of Anita Sarkeesian in the game Towerfall, to their appearance at the 2018 Game Awards. The signs were always present.
That he used another article about Celeste (ostensibly about new content and cheats) to further smear it with SJW "heresy," is just icing on the cake.
Which isn't even getting to his "replies" on Twitter unwittingly revealing how he's making a mountain out of a molehill, then doubling down.
Remember, when people say “you’re being an anti-SJW” to try and make you shut up about stuff, they want you to think of this guy and cringe.
A game, or any piece of entertainment, including things that a left-wing person might relate to, such as a gay pride flag or whatever the fuck, does not mean the game is "left-wing propaganda." It doesn't mean the developers are "pushing an agenda."
I'm ok with OAG, they collect and report this flags for every game they find, Celeste isn't different but it just hit harder than usual on the SJW nest, just saw a thread on Gab/Gaming calling them One Angry Boomer.Sometimes they can go to far on the article and do an "Alex Jones overreaction" sketch, but to their credits they're the only place reporting all censorship (and wokeness) in games.
If they wanna make their own games and put this stuff in it, that's their business. Also find it hilarious how he's like "There is a symbol acknowledging the existence and encouraging tolerance of trans people in a game rated E!". Does he seriously think seeing a trans-person irl is enough to irreparably shatter the psyche of a child or something?
I'm confused, what's the witch hunt that was sparked?
I loved the gameplay of Celeste, and would have just rather not known about it's agenda.
Never go full Ahab.
We want good games, this is a good game.
They aren't using their power that comes with their success to shit on anyone. Move along.
Hes seriously going for the "video games will make your kids gay trans people" angle?
Is he gonna start telling us video games cause school shootings too?
What a fucking sperglord.
The man is angry and enjoys crudge word choices just for the shock value (I think) and takes his porn a little too seriously, but he's not wrong about the constant and endless idiocy of people trying to quietly shove social justice into basically everything. After all, its less the big things than the added-up little things that have had our society on this steady path for decades, and if we ever wanna undo the first thing is to get people to recognize it.
Usher is an absolute homophobe and there is nothing to convince me otherwise.
edit - minor word change
All I can say is, I don’t plan on buying the game just because of the current climate that’s basically politics.
I don’t mind anyone who is gay or whatever, but considering how few games can be somewhat good if they include gays, I just haven’t been able to enjoy anything like how video games should be if understand what I mean.
A example is Undertale, to which from my knowledge, only had two gay couples and nothing else, to which other characters are basically headcannon and nothing of concrete evidence.
Beyond that, the game was decent, but the message that it carries can be a bit much of someone can’t handle it, or if someone just doesn’t like anything it offers.
Someone on here even showed that the creator didn’t like identity politics from a interview, which was good enough for me, and I gotta say, the characters don’t feel forced, but they are quirky.
OAG is fun because he's the stereotype gamers rise up memes are mocking, except he's serious
OAG became an absolute sperg in the last year or so. While I'm still glad he keeps track of games censored, his site is full of click bait, rage bait and overall bullshit
The article is basically what SJWs do every goddamn time and stuff like this is a blessing for them because they lack any self awareness, so they can say "The gamers are upset again".
Yeah, the grip has been lost.
Isn't this by the same guy that threw a tantrum over the gay rats? And while I can say it's odd if a kid has those flags around, it sounds pretty innocuous compared to the other stuff that gets shoved into games.
I was going to get this at a later date since I like challenging games but thanks to that I'm good, if they are willing to add content to a game to virtue signal, they might remove content as well. See Johnny Cages harmless OK hand.
This nigga's spergin out.
Shit like that is why I decided to stop going to KiA 2 as well. Fucking insanity. Any legit discussion gets drowned out in "THE JEWS" and other such bullshit.
Good. I don't want to see this gay/trans shit in my video games. It is fucking degenerate. That is how they are changing overton window. From little things like this to full blown SJW insanity. Stop the disease at its core.
I'm always saying it, but the far-right and far-left are basically the same. They may hate each other, but really all of them can be called SJWs. They both think they are better than the other, and yet they have the exact same behaviors. I think these people spend so much time on video game politics that they go crazy. They start to see every little bullshit as 'leftist propaganda', and I'm not gonna say whether it is or isn't, but this is exactly the same kind of behavior as leftists screeching about everything being sexist, racist, transphobic, etc.
This post is SJW bullshit.
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I really don't see what the big deal is. Sneaking in politics like that, it's definitely something worth calling attention to. And he's by no means sparking a witch-hunt. Are we supposed to police the appropriate level of anger he should have?
A "witch-hunt" implies an attempt to seek out and persecute people for shaky reasons. He is simply stating that this game has certain political messages, he does not like said messages, and thinks the messages are not right for kids. Nothing about that is a witch-hunt.
Why would it be satire? Hes right. Fuck trannys and faggots. They are evil disgusting monsters that are destroying our hobby. GAMERS RISE UP!
This sub is dead. Over run with SJW faggots pretending to be gamergaters. KotakuInAction is dead, long live KotakuInAction2
Celeste was a better game than Gone Home, but I had a sneaking suspicion it was getting all those 10's for a similar reason. All that navel-gazing about depression and anxiety was insufferable, even if the game around it was pretty good. Seems perfect bait for woke critics.
As for OAG, yea he's overreacting. Still gonna read his site, tho.
The Chinese government have figure out a way to censor and control free speech even outside their country.
Welcome to the party, pal.
Album with the images attached to his post.
We see how the censorship infrastructure developed by social media companies is already being used to suppress speech criticizing the government of China - in this case likely not because China is putting pressure on Facebook/Instagram directly, but because companies have outsourced censorship decisions to any group that can muster up enough reports. Shadowbanning on Instagram means his posts don't show up to people who aren't already his followers, and has no transparency by design, making it ideal for this kind of censorship.
Social media publishers are colluding with the Chinese government to suppress free speech. This is proof.
Reminds me of that African dictatorship that decided to call its anti-dissent laws "hate speech legislation" because that's what all the western megalomaniacs were doing.
Never any reason to shadow ban anyone for anything, if it's some severe case of a call to violence or something they can at least own up to an open ban, the act of being shadowy about it should be a crime
Meanwhile white women feminists are in HK telling protestors it's better to be safe than free and taking down their signs
She's a really talented artist, even gets recommended a lot. She also sometimes details about life in China (she does not live there, but she was born there).
That piece that got her taken down, as she mentioned, is really old. It's from 2012. She does often post it in the context of protests (since it is a protest image).
That said, I'm really not surprised she's supporting the Hong Kong protests, and even less surprised that her art got taken down because of that.
War is Peace.
Freedom is Slavery.
Ignorance is Strength.
Obvious and predictable consequence of hate speech legislation. Nothing further to add, just that Instagram greatly sucks.
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A slide from a presentation document on behalf of the ESA appears to have leaked and was shared on Twitter courtesy of Brad Glasgow.
The document seems to point towards a heavy social justice push being present at next year's annual Entertainment Expo (E3) press event reading as follows:
Research shows that Millennials and Gen Z are the most "giving back"/"social good" generations ever. By amplifying E3's social good brand, we can advance the industry's brand with consumers while storing positive chits for future use (e.g., policy goals, next negative video game story) One tactic we can implement is partnering with influencers (celebrities, athletes, YouTube personalities) who are passionate about E3 relevant social good efforts (e.g., gender equality, STEM). Imagine a NBA Champion global super star participating in an E3 Coliseum conversation and/or global movie star being part of the E3 Digital Ticket because it included social good components.
Research shows that Millennials and Gen Z are the most "giving back"/"social good" generations ever.
By amplifying E3's social good brand, we can advance the industry's brand with consumers while storing positive chits for future use (e.g., policy goals, next negative video game story)
One tactic we can implement is partnering with influencers (celebrities, athletes, YouTube personalities) who are passionate about E3 relevant social good efforts (e.g., gender equality, STEM).
Imagine a NBA Champion global super star participating in an E3 Coliseum conversation and/or global movie star being part of the E3 Digital Ticket because it included social good components.
I'm not entirely sure how efforts like gender equality and STEM qualify as "E3 relevant social good", neither am I confident in their push to court public figures and celebrities outside of the industry "because it included social good components". This entire thing reads like a gender-conscious critical theory dissertation written by an under-graduate yet appears to give us a somewhat disconcerting peek behind the curtain of the ESA, or at least the branch that is in charge of organisation of the E3 event.
Assume there'll be more to this story, I'm unaware as to whether there are further slides that have been 'leaked' however feel free to post further updates and clarification below.
You could post a video of ZQ leaving his apartment saying, "everything we did while I was here was consensual" and still people would be defending her.
I'm glad this person is posting these contradictions. It's just frustrating that no amount of evidence will away the nut jobs defending her.
The author of the article posted this to NeoGaf here. While not much in the post is new for those who read the article, it clearly lays out why Zoe's tweets contradict her allegations for the benefit of those who have been downplaying them. These aren't her forgetting incidental details, they contradict the central claims of abuse that are possible to verify - in particular that he confined her to the apartment and didn't let her leave on her own and that he forced her to stay in the city for a month instead of 2 weeks until a scared friend bought her a ticket to escape.
Here is the original article, linked via archive because for several months Reddit has spam-filtered links to the site for an unknown reason.
Lauren Chen also did a poll on Twitter earlier asking if people wanted a ZQ video, because the video game stuff usually isn’t her lane. It was like 70% for doing a video on it when I saw it.
I’ll admit, I’ve been tuning out most of this because of the depressive reality that nothing would ever come of it. But this reporter has earned a heck of a lot of respect, simply because she actually managed to do her due diligence and correlate the accusation to the known public information.
A man died because of this mess. If there is any chance that people have been manipulated and mislead for personal gain, it needs to be made known.
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They've already gouged out their eyes and filled their ears with concrete, in order to ignore reality.
To be clear, it's not specifically because of that article. The entire site is caught by reddit's spam filter settings (which we have no control over), and has been for several months. Links can be manually approved by moderators.
Any direct links are shadowbanned. You can see them, no one else can.
reddit banning evidence against the sjw establishment? I would have never thought so!
Reddit is a dumpster fire. I wouldn't get comfortable here.
I'll never understand why people go up to bat for her.
This https://www.thepostmillennial.com/exclusive-zoe-quinns-allegations-are-falling-apart/ ?
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It's not just Reddit. Steam moderators are straight-up just vanishing all threads that start with the TPM articles, and have steadily been banning users and deleting posts discussing the articles as well.
Bringing up this motivated moderating is of course, also a paddling.
I'm guessing it's a reference to this link?
Seems like a kia mod tactic lol
Gamergate was far more about institutional corruption like this as anything else.
Every time I hear about this man I can only marvel at what a Chad he must be to pull off the shit he does.
Ah yes, the most iconic trademark of white supremacism, a black man.
You don't have to be psychic to foresee that they would come after Daryl Davis at some point. If there is one thing that the woke left hates more than anything, its a black person having a mind or a will of their own.
Only the most hardcore white supremacists try to stop white supremacy.
It’s truly astounding to see how fucking backwards antifa is. They are the thing they claim to be fighting against.
Remember when "Antifa" were just called "Anarchist protesters" because the media didn't have a clear agenda?
I wish I could say I'm surprised...but I've been on Tumblr and Twitter too long.
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it's good to be color colorblind
Oh hell yeah they called him a white supremacist. Welcome to the pit.
Daryl Davis: Convinced hundreds of KKK members to stop being white supremacists.
Antifa: Gave Hitler the excuse to tighten his grip on Germany by setting fire to parliament.
Tweets about it from the Guild Wars 2 Narrative Director:
Without giving anything away, I think any serious storyline that involves the Sons of Svanir in this day and age would need to confront their chauvinism head-on. Also, I suggest listening closely to Jormag’s voice in the trailer for a hint as to how Jormag might regard it.
Not exactly. Non-binary Jormag. :-)
Source here page six of their PDF.
Edit: Since some people are confused, keep in mind the red text isn't something I wrote. I know it sounds like some sort of weird modern gender-identity politics interpretation by an idiot on the internet, but the Guild Wars 2 writers actually wrote it as an in-character remark by a character in their fantasy setting.
People not understanding the image and not reading any of the links aside...(the "non-binary possessive pronoun" quote is from official marketing material and not an edit)
One of the Elder Dragons not having a gendered identity doesn't bother me that much. What really bothers me is that they decided to trot out this poorly written(it reads like a tweet or tumblr post even though it's supposed to be in-universe musings) bit of 'look how Woke our game is!' to deflect from the game's increasingly poor perception and performance. All while one of their marketing managers and one of their devs repeatedly spills their spaghetti at the playerbase for being critical of development and marketing, even referencing the alt right boogiemen.
When the topic first popped up in a writer's twitter feed, I assumed it'd be confined there as low hanging bait/pandering, but then it popped up in official marketing. So maybe we will actually end up with a cringey lecture in-game... because that will save the studio. Apparently we need to address chauvinism through the Sons of Svanir too.
While the self congratulation surrounding Jormag being """non-binary""" is annoying, the retconning of the lore to make a commentary on modern day gender politics is far more egregious.
Current Narrative Designer, Tom Abernathy says:
Abernathy: Without giving anything away, I think any serious storyline that involves the Sons of Svanir in this day and age would need to confront their chauvinism head-on. Also, I suggest listening closely to Jormag’s voice in the trailer for a hint as to how Jormag might regard it.Gin: Lady Jormag?Abernathy: Not exactly. Non-binary Jormag. :-)
Abernathy: Without giving anything away, I think any serious storyline that involves the Sons of Svanir in this day and age would need to confront their chauvinism head-on. Also, I suggest listening closely to Jormag’s voice in the trailer for a hint as to how Jormag might regard it.
Gin: Lady Jormag?
Abernathy: Not exactly. Non-binary Jormag. :-)
Jormag is Non-Binary and cares about the Sons of Svanir's chauvinism.
Yet the original Narrative Designers/Writers, Jeff Grubb and Ree Soesbee, said:
GuildMag (Ollannach): So we’ve also gone to Twitter and asked our followers to send us some questions. While we read through a few of them and chosen the ones that were most important. So… in Edge of Destiny it’s observed that men who go to fight Jormag’s minions and fail, return as icebroods but women don’t return at all. Is there anything more about what happens to women who fall under Jormag’s power?ArenaNet (Jeff Grubb): I don’t think they fall as much as they are killed.ArenaNet (Ree Soesbee): Yeah, they die.ArenaNet (Jeff Grubb): The Sons of Svanir just… the way that they worship Jormag has evolved is very chauvinist, very male chauvinist, in the fact that it is a very boys-only club, they don’t really get to reanimate. The women are just slain.ArenaNet (Ree Soesbee): I think it’s less that Jormag won’t corrupt a woman and more that as they are being corrupted, the Sons of Svanir will just kill any woman who is caught being given Svanir’s gift.ArenaNet (Jeff Grubb): Jormag doesn’t care. Jormag really does not care. It’s as if ants that are going off, the red ants and the black ants, that’s nice. But the Sons of Svanir…ArenaNet (Ree Soesbee): The Sons of Svanir have a cult, it’s a religious organisation.ArenaNet (Jeff Grubb): It comes through that funnel, the Sons of Svanir are his mechanism in the world, so therefore their beliefs, and their prejudices, have that effect.ArenaNet (Ree Soesbee): And so they kill the women.
GuildMag (Ollannach): So we’ve also gone to Twitter and asked our followers to send us some questions. While we read through a few of them and chosen the ones that were most important. So… in Edge of Destiny it’s observed that men who go to fight Jormag’s minions and fail, return as icebroods but women don’t return at all. Is there anything more about what happens to women who fall under Jormag’s power?
ArenaNet (Jeff Grubb): I don’t think they fall as much as they are killed.
ArenaNet (Ree Soesbee): Yeah, they die.
ArenaNet (Jeff Grubb): The Sons of Svanir just… the way that they worship Jormag has evolved is very chauvinist, very male chauvinist, in the fact that it is a very boys-only club, they don’t really get to reanimate. The women are just slain.
ArenaNet (Ree Soesbee): I think it’s less that Jormag won’t corrupt a woman and more that as they are being corrupted, the Sons of Svanir will just kill any woman who is caught being given Svanir’s gift.
ArenaNet (Jeff Grubb): Jormag doesn’t care. Jormag really does not care. It’s as if ants that are going off, the red ants and the black ants, that’s nice. But the Sons of Svanir…
ArenaNet (Ree Soesbee): The Sons of Svanir have a cult, it’s a religious organisation.
ArenaNet (Jeff Grubb): It comes through that funnel, the Sons of Svanir are his mechanism in the world, so therefore their beliefs, and their prejudices, have that effect.
ArenaNet (Ree Soesbee): And so they kill the women.
Jormag doesn't care and is male.
I've been playing Guild Wars 2 since it launched, and I just quit as of now. I was going to buy the new (actually not so new) expansion this week, but not anymore. If this is the quality of their writing now, I have a feeling going forward that playing their game is going to be like punching myself in the face. It's a shame, when it launched it was pretty good for an MMO. But I've got a backlog of good games that don't spew the writer's personal psycho delusions in my face.
not every usage of "them" is progressive nonesense...
Given that Dragons typically lack visible sex characteristics (think birds), the only way to tell if a Dragon is Male or Female would be to a) DNA test it, or b) see it lay an egg (those are literally the only way to tell if most birds are Male or Female, outside a few species, that have dimorphic feather coloration or patterns unique to the sexes (see Peahen's being drab and grey, and the Peacock having the bright showy feathers)
Luckily I haven't noticed any sort of nonsense like this in the game, this is just some extra posting that probably not that many people even looked at
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I remember forming a headcanon as to why the Sons of Svanir was a boys only club, since I don't recall there really being a reason given in the lore.
I know the Flame Legion had an in-game reason for only being male (that was made because all the charr in GW1 were dudes), but since I only started playing around after LWs1 in GW2 ended I don't really know it that well.
I wish there were a way I could voice my displeasure to ArenaNet that was more meaningful than just not spending money on their game.
talks about elder dragons in general and then uses the term "them" you're reading too far into that, it sounds to me like it's talking about allying with the Elder Dragons in general, not just Jormag so that is not a "non-binary possessive"
Yeah any time I think about going back to that game the writers find a new way to remind me what a miserable state they've driven it in.
Just goes to show how little power retard-era really has without their pet journalists.
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Had to delete the other one, which showed the same screen but with the filters on (96% in Recent Reviews). Nonetheless, I gleaned the following as of 5:11 PM GMT, September 2, 2019:
Prevailing sentiment seems to be either "All is forgiven" or " Fuck the politics and drama, the game's good."
Please remind me, what was the drama around Ion Fury?
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