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[Drama] Yoree Koh / WSJ - "Hate Speech on Live ‘Super Chats’ Tests YouTube"

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  • Cell-el
    58 points Nov 02,2018, 9:38pm

    Gee it's terribly inconvenient that no one who reads this article can now go back and view the stream to see if anyone actually said those things.

    ......Isn't it WSJ?

  • B-VOLLEYBALL-READY
    52 points Nov 02,2018, 9:29pm

    This is really blowing up on Twitter. Check out the #WSJKillsKids tag.

    One thing I don't understand - were the people on the stream endorsing those comments? Or was it just randos saying a bunch of offensive stuff for the lulz?

  • BarkOverBite
    77 points Nov 02,2018, 9:33pm

    I'll repeat what i wrote in the previous thread:

    St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital this week arranged to return donations raised in September during a live stream by Mr. Ralph dubbed a “Super Chat for Good,” even as the comments section became populated by anti-Semitic comments and the hosts talked about a Holocaust meme. The money totaled about $26,000. Many on Twitter complained Friday about having their donations returned to them. They also attacked the Journal and members of its staff, blaming the news organization for the return of the money.When contacted earlier in the week, St. Jude said it was aware of the chats and was making arrangements to reverse any donations. On Friday, a spokesperson said: “We had no intention of receiving or accepting any of the funds associated with the live stream.”

    So according to the WSJ, St. Jude cares more about making a political statement than the children under their care.

    This is one of the rare situations where i 100% am of the opinion that whoever made this decision should be fired, because they do not have the best interest of those children at heart.

    There was always the option of "not thanking" those who gave the money.
    And it should have gone no further than that.

  • Jkid
    42 points Nov 02,2018, 9:43pm

    What WSJ did for the past 24 hours was nothing short of character assassination. They litterly made a issue out of nothing from a YouTube Channel to further a narrative/agenda of alt-right racism. It's politically motivated because it happened during the 2018 midterms and after the tree of life massacre, and gab being no -playformed. YouTube clearly guanxi'd with WSJ to pull this off.

    This is not journalism, this is a media lynching.

    Journalism in America is completely dead.

  • fightmeinspace
    36 points Nov 02,2018, 10:15pm

    Daily reminder that journalists aren't people

  • mng20
    14 points Nov 02,2018, 11:51pm

    There's no way Google and WSJ should be allowed to get away with this. It's one thing to censor people who have views you despise, but it's another to take money away from dying children who have nothing to do with it. That is stooping to an extreme low. We all need to do our part and put the screws on these 2 horrible companies.

  • scarmask
    11 points Nov 03,2018, 1:00am

    There's taking candy from a baby, and then there's taking funding from a kid on chemo...

  • 274DE97BAB
    17 points Nov 03,2018, 12:50am

    "hate speech" does not exist, you communist faggot.

  • nobuyuki
    6 points Nov 03,2018, 1:49am

    If YouTube tried to donate the money anyway, how much we taking bets that WSJ would simply go after the charity that accepted it?

    It's really not about where the money came from or what cause it's going to. It's about controlling the platform, and for WSJ in particular, it appears to be about a war of attrition with alternative media and all platforms that play host to it. From old media.

  • centrum5555
    4 points Nov 03,2018, 3:06am

    i swear, at this point youtube should just say 'we allow hatespeach, not our problem, if no advertisement is shown there.' and flush all those complain articles down the drain

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    2 points Nov 02,2018, 11:12pm

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  • Cell-el
    58 points Nov 02,2018, 9:38pm

    Gee it's terribly inconvenient that no one who reads this article can now go back and view the stream to see if anyone actually said those things.

    ......Isn't it WSJ?

  • B-VOLLEYBALL-READY
    52 points Nov 02,2018, 9:29pm

    This is really blowing up on Twitter. Check out the #WSJKillsKids tag.

    One thing I don't understand - were the people on the stream endorsing those comments? Or was it just randos saying a bunch of offensive stuff for the lulz?

  • BarkOverBite
    77 points Nov 02,2018, 9:33pm

    I'll repeat what i wrote in the previous thread:

    St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital this week arranged to return donations raised in September during a live stream by Mr. Ralph dubbed a “Super Chat for Good,” even as the comments section became populated by anti-Semitic comments and the hosts talked about a Holocaust meme. The money totaled about $26,000. Many on Twitter complained Friday about having their donations returned to them. They also attacked the Journal and members of its staff, blaming the news organization for the return of the money.When contacted earlier in the week, St. Jude said it was aware of the chats and was making arrangements to reverse any donations. On Friday, a spokesperson said: “We had no intention of receiving or accepting any of the funds associated with the live stream.”

    So according to the WSJ, St. Jude cares more about making a political statement than the children under their care.

    This is one of the rare situations where i 100% am of the opinion that whoever made this decision should be fired, because they do not have the best interest of those children at heart.

    There was always the option of "not thanking" those who gave the money.
    And it should have gone no further than that.

  • PM_Pics_Of_Jet_Fuel
    28 points Nov 02,2018, 9:51pm

    What an absolute nothing of a story.

    It's so shallow that it's impossible to see it as anything but an attack.

    "Silence this person because of what others do," is the message. How disgusting.

  • Jkid
    42 points Nov 02,2018, 9:43pm

    What WSJ did for the past 24 hours was nothing short of character assassination. They litterly made a issue out of nothing from a YouTube Channel to further a narrative/agenda of alt-right racism. It's politically motivated because it happened during the 2018 midterms and after the tree of life massacre, and gab being no -playformed. YouTube clearly guanxi'd with WSJ to pull this off.

    This is not journalism, this is a media lynching.

    Journalism in America is completely dead.

  • fightmeinspace
    36 points Nov 02,2018, 10:15pm

    Daily reminder that journalists aren't people

  • mng20
    14 points Nov 02,2018, 11:51pm

    There's no way Google and WSJ should be allowed to get away with this. It's one thing to censor people who have views you despise, but it's another to take money away from dying children who have nothing to do with it. That is stooping to an extreme low. We all need to do our part and put the screws on these 2 horrible companies.

  • scarmask
    11 points Nov 03,2018, 1:00am

    There's taking candy from a baby, and then there's taking funding from a kid on chemo...

  • 274DE97BAB
    17 points Nov 03,2018, 12:50am

    "hate speech" does not exist, you communist faggot.

  • nobuyuki
    6 points Nov 03,2018, 1:49am

    If YouTube tried to donate the money anyway, how much we taking bets that WSJ would simply go after the charity that accepted it?

    It's really not about where the money came from or what cause it's going to. It's about controlling the platform, and for WSJ in particular, it appears to be about a war of attrition with alternative media and all platforms that play host to it. From old media.

  • centrum5555
    4 points Nov 03,2018, 3:06am

    i swear, at this point youtube should just say 'we allow hatespeach, not our problem, if no advertisement is shown there.' and flush all those complain articles down the drain

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    2 points Nov 02,2018, 11:12pm

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  • nodeworx
    4 points Nov 03,2018, 4:37pm

    Hah! Finally a reason to actually give myself a flair! ^^

  • Soup_Navy_Admiral
    3 points Nov 03,2018, 4:41pm

    Shows you how much I'm paying attention, I'd forgotten 101 happened.

  • CrankyDClown
    4 points Nov 03,2018, 4:41pm

    Can't we limit our gets to reasonably large and even numbers? At this rate we're going to end up with "lol I got dubs", "checkem".

  • badcatsgotohell
    1 points Nov 03,2018, 8:07pm

    Should change 'readers' to something like

    • entitled babies
    • toxic misogynists
    • transphobic neckbeards
    • gatekeeping elitists
    • alt-right nazis

    Can't think of any more cliched buzzwords right now. But maybe just the simple classic is the best - toxic gamers

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  • nodeworx
    4 points Nov 03,2018, 4:37pm

    Hah! Finally a reason to actually give myself a flair! ^^

  • Soup_Navy_Admiral
    3 points Nov 03,2018, 4:41pm

    Shows you how much I'm paying attention, I'd forgotten 101 happened.

  • CrankyDClown
    4 points Nov 03,2018, 4:41pm

    Can't we limit our gets to reasonably large and even numbers? At this rate we're going to end up with "lol I got dubs", "checkem".

  • mnemosyne-0001
    1 points Nov 03,2018, 4:37pm

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  • badcatsgotohell
    1 points Nov 03,2018, 8:07pm

    Should change 'readers' to something like

    • entitled babies
    • toxic misogynists
    • transphobic neckbeards
    • gatekeeping elitists
    • alt-right nazis

    Can't think of any more cliched buzzwords right now. But maybe just the simple classic is the best - toxic gamers

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  • SixtyFours
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 8:07pm

    Just a few things about this thread:

    1. When OP says "SJWs", all he is showing is one person in the image.

    2. That person in the image is a PR director. Just a little food for thought.

  • ceyen1
    150 points Nov 02,2018, 5:53pm

    Isn't it sexist to assume that women are only into mobile gaming?

  • wpiurbhpiuew
    264 points Nov 02,2018, 5:42pm

    Girls and women will not be the people who play diablo on their phones.

  • sparklegeddon
    32 points Nov 02,2018, 5:47pm

    Or maybe people just hate playing games with their thumbs and dealing with fingerprints

  • nodeworx
    36 points Nov 02,2018, 6:13pm

    O.k. then... Apparently disagreeing with blatant money-grabs in favor of good quality content/games is toxic masculinity.

    This is not the argument of anybody at all interested in gaming as a real hobby or culture.

    It's a fucking sad state of affairs...

    Unfortunately, given that the mobile game is still probably going to make shitloads of money, he'll probably be able to use that fact in the future that he was actually right about this nonsensical claim.

     

    I'm more and more disgusted with the fact that most of AAA gaming is turning into Hollywood 2.0 where all that matters is squeezing increasingly mediocre amounts of money out of half-assed sequels and copycats of marginally original independent games.

     

    As a gamer that's 45 years old and still remembers the excitement of playing Pitfall on an old Atari 2600, it's become fucking hard to even give a 'meh' about any 'big' release these days.

  • ComradeSomo
    23 points Nov 02,2018, 5:59pm

    I'm sick of being attacked as a "gatekeeper" for wanting a quality product.

  • CrankyDClown
    72 points Nov 02,2018, 5:37pm

    Diablo, on phones.

    Yeah, pretty glad I sunk a good chunk of change into Path of Exile, uninstalled Diablo + the Battle.net launcher and never looked back.

  • Castle_of_Decay
    26 points Nov 02,2018, 5:49pm

    Do you think I care about Diablo after Diablo 3?

    Auction house at the beginning, no skill choice on level up, drop chances tweaked to such miniscule percentage as to force people to buy drops on AH.

    Hah, nope. Diablo is dead and maggot ridden.

  • nameless22
    11 points Nov 02,2018, 5:55pm

    Hot take: Will Powers is a fucking idiot.

  • RURUKOvich
    35 points Nov 02,2018, 5:54pm

    dead gaem

    Women who play candy fucking crush won't play diablo on mobile, because they're not interested in the basic premise of slaying shit in fantasy world. The audience who will play such game already has dungeon hunter.

    By the way, is he having a giggle? Resource intensive game like diablo? Absolute kek.

    But blizzard fanboys will suck it down nevertheless, just like they did with diablo 3. "But it got better!11" Ye, but it still ain't cheaper and I still won't buy it as long as PoE exists. Which is free.

  • Ricwulf
    7 points Nov 02,2018, 6:14pm

    So much wrong. For starters, mobile tech is not up to scratch at all. It's certainly come a long way, but it still ain't there.

    Then there is the issue of microtransactions, which are practically a guarantee for mobile.

    Then there is the degradation of mechanics to work with a mobile interface, which creates a shallower game.

    So which one do you want to pick? Audience has nothing to do with it, and it's not "gatekeeping" to want quality products.

  • boommicfucker
    6 points Nov 02,2018, 7:14pm

    This is what happens when you absolutely must apply your favourite theory about how society works to absolutely everything. No, people don't think mobile gaming is shit because women do it, they think it's shit because 1) the prevalence of absolutely cancerous monetization and the resulting skinner box optimized gameplay and 2) it severely limits what developers can do, not because of a lack of computation power, but because there are no physical controls.

    How the fuck can someone who's worked in the industry not be aware of that and conclude that that's the reason people dislike it, not misogyny or weak hardware specs?

    And, speaking of toxic masculinity:

    Launch this dude into the sun. This is beyond disrespectful to all the developers and people that have been working their butts off. https://clips.twitch.tv/embed?clip=PunchyImpossibleCoyoteYouWHY

    He's also said that he works "on mobile", so I guess that's why he's so buttmad about the reaction. What did they expect, though? Rounds of applause from their core, mostly PC, fanbase that was hoping for something for them? And he's justifying it by claiming that people don't want others to enjoy it, which is just bollocks.

  • wallace321
    6 points Nov 02,2018, 6:22pm

    Good lord. Do they really think it's the PHONE that draws in that female audience? That you could sell them ANY garbage, as long as it's on a phone?

    Also, it makes sense for them to say that dissing phone gaming is anti-women, since the glorious PC gaming master race, is afterall, literally hitler. At least they're consistent; everyone is sexist, everyone is a nazi. Glad we still have that going.

  • midnight_riddle
    5 points Nov 02,2018, 6:41pm

    Is this guy finally admitting that women are predominantly interested in mobile phone games rather than consoles or PC and that they skew the "50% of gamers are women" statistics?

  • AJK64
    4 points Nov 02,2018, 6:46pm

    What isn't misogyny these days? The word has been stretched so far that anything can be misogyny...air con, and shitty mobile games included.

  • Ihateregistering6
    5 points Nov 02,2018, 6:51pm

    I'm stunned at the number of people playing still playing D3. Even with the changes, the game is a shadow of what D2 was.

    All character builds are practically the same until past level 70 (minus equipment), equipment makes no sense (how can my scrawny Necromancer wield a gigantic battle axe, and why does it cause him to do more damage shooting bone spikes out of the ground?), and the game lost a lot of the gritty, Gothic feel that was so great in D1 and D2.

    Honestly, since D3 came out, we've gotten Torchlight 2, Path of Exile, and Grim Dawn, all of which I'd argue are much better ARPGs.

  • sundayatnoon
    3 points Nov 02,2018, 7:21pm

    I haven't seen a single complaint against gate keeping that hasn't reinforced or encouraged the practice if for no other reason than to keep out the author of that opinion.

  • MikiSayaka33
    3 points Nov 02,2018, 5:54pm

    Misogyny? Personally, I usually see mobile gaming as inferior to console and pc. Too bad we can't dare the sjws to even play this Diablo game and put money in their mouths.

  • Joulaaa
    3 points Nov 02,2018, 6:09pm

    Imagine being verified and getting that many likes.

  • FarRightTopKeks
    3 points Nov 02,2018, 6:16pm

    It wouldn't possibly be that after a year of them hyping diablo the worst thing possible was revealed, a fucking mobile game, yeah people totally wanna burn phone battery and cramp their hands playing an ARPG on a God damn phone.

    After leaving diablo 3 for dead this was the worst possible thing to reveal as a headline, this should've accompanied another game.

  • wallace321
    3 points Nov 02,2018, 6:32pm

    Are they really going to blame disdain for the mobile trash gaming experience on sexism? Jesus Christ they are fucking shameless.

    Let me guess, PC gamers hate console gamers because they are too poor to afford a proper PCMR computer? Also blacks and jews because "master race".

    Stupid or shameless, can't tell. Industry shill, so i'm going to say 'both'.

  • GreenBean59
    3 points Nov 02,2018, 6:44pm

    As someone not surprised by blizzard announcement and also thinking people being outraged about a mobile game are basically children, the idea that it’s because of toxic masculinity is just aids.

  • Soup_Navy_Admiral
    3 points Nov 02,2018, 7:12pm

    The people that bash on mobile gaming...

    Seeing the success they've had with Hearthstone on mobile, they know the potential of that audience.

    Soooo, the Hearthstone audience has shown a surge of eager support for the game already? Or is the mythical audience you speak of actually composed of the people you wrote off (and slagged off) in the first tweet?

     

    take a step back and realize how shitty you sound as a gatekeeper to the franchise.

    Says the attempted gatekeeper to all gaming.

  • Limon_Lime
    2 points Nov 02,2018, 5:47pm

    Huh? Why? The trailer shows the girl save the guy.

  • ScapeZero
    2 points Nov 02,2018, 6:24pm

    Since when has a Blizzard game been resource intensive?

    You can't sit there and seriously think specs are what have held Blizzard from making a game on mobile. UE3 was impressive as fuck when it made it to iOS, and that was fucking years ago.

  • MeSmeshFruit
    2 points Nov 02,2018, 6:24pm

    I honestly think this is just clever clickbaiting, I dare say ingenious.

  • B-VOLLEYBALL-READY
    2 points Nov 02,2018, 6:37pm

    Who the fuck is this clown? His name is familiar.

  • ParasiteSteve
    2 points Nov 02,2018, 7:04pm

    Congrats to phones, you can now play a bad game from 2012 without emulation. My hats off to you.

  • Singulaire
    2 points Nov 02,2018, 7:13pm

    mobile hardware has finally caught up in specs to the software that's being developed

    1) Game development has always been about using the available hardware resources. When hardware progresses, games would add more complex textures, more objects, etc. The idea that hardware is "catching up" is ridiculous, because the software is always developed to match the hardware.

    2) The thing limiting mobile gaming isn't processing power or memory, or even battery life- it's the form factor. Mobile phones have had the computing power to run early 2000's games for years, but ports of such games aren't very popular because they're very uncomfortable to play on a tiny 6'' screen that has to also house all of the controls.

  • TinyWightSpider
    2 points Nov 02,2018, 7:18pm

    Mobile is very much a viable platform for resource intensive games like Diablo

    Herp Derp your cell phone is a gamestation now!

    The only good mobile games are the ones you can play for just a few moments at a time, that have no loading screens, that have no storyline, and that you can stop playing in an instant when the light changes or your bus shows up or whatever you were waiting on while playing a mobile game finally happens.

  • A_Wild_Taka_Appears
    2 points Nov 02,2018, 7:48pm

    Or it could be that mobile gaming is almost entirely terrible and exists solely to rip people off.

  • Kannonn
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:57pm

    This is it, folks. I truly could not have come up with this as a joke.

  • camclemons
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 8:17pm

    Toxic masculinity isn't the same thing as misogyny. He's arguing that men value masculinity to the extent that anything that isn't masculine is bad. He interprets this as an attack on the casual aspect of mobile to set up a straw man and divert attention away from the actual issues people have, the least of which is announcing a port for a game you already play to a format that you don't play.

    He's got a point that it makes it more accessible to a wider audience, but that's when you go for the TV commercials, not main stage at Blizzcon.

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    1 points Nov 02,2018, 5:36pm

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  • Exzodium
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:09pm

    Psssh they can buy it if they want. Blizzard needs a few saps if this is gonna work for them.

  • MagFreakingNeto
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:11pm

    I’m looking forward to trying it but like with any game with virtual joysticks it’ll probably be a bad time

  • 8675309999999999
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:24pm

    the soy should wait til the pricing comes out

    notice that plug in the trailer about it being an MMO?

    MMO sub model/game-as-a-service

    everyone that's complaining about the Diablo on mobile announcement - take a step back and realize how shitty you sound as a gatekeeper to the franchise

    shaming to get what they want? must be a male feminist

  • blackmagic12345
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:27pm

    No i associate mobile gaming with 5000$ credit card bills for Candy Racer Saga Ultimate Platinum jujubemod points.

  • H_Guderian
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:28pm

    No, smart phones have not "caught up" to a full gaming PC.

  • UseBrinkWithDown
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:31pm

    This is so dumb - this is so dumb that I refuse to believe a black hole of stupidity like this can exist simply because it would have created such a massive gravity well of dumbness that it would have destroyed the universe by now. This has to be some self-loathing loser consciously shitting on himself to look good to his woke friends or something.

  • 274DE97BAB
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:34pm

    waaah muh sojiny

  • HahThatsSilly
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:35pm

    Does anyone actually associate mobile gaming with being heavily female? When I think mobile gaming, I think of nerds like me -- people glued to their phone waiting in line, out for dinner, on the train, on the bus, etc.

    I certainly don't think women.

  • CBruce
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:35pm

    I don't think anyone assumes that mobile games are still primarily played by a female audience. Everyone plays mobile games. They've become as mainstream as an PC or console game.

    The issue with mobile games is their core design philosophies, how they're monetized, and how those trickle out into other game designs on other platforms. Not what's between any particular player's legs.

  • irontoaster
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:36pm

    Nothing can kill my hype for this except playing it and it being bad.

  • shinbreaker
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:38pm

    Alright folks, let's take bets. Who's going to be the first site to parrot this "hot take?"

    Kotaku? Polygon? Or will an underdog like Eurogamer come in and steal the glory?

  • bunker_man
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:39pm

    It's more than people don't like that Mobile gaming more or less always means a really shitty product. More often than that which is explicitly based around microtransactions in way that most non mobile games aren't quite as much.

  • TheImpossible1
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:39pm

    The only game that I've ever had any enjoyment out of on mobile was Asphalt 8.

    The Fortnite port was okay, but I can't get the hang of the controls so I just open it to buy skins when the store refreshes - saving me having to get out of bed if I'm awake at that time.

  • SarcasticCarebear
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:44pm

    Diablo Immortal is an existing p2w mobile game that sucks, reskinned a little and with the name Diablo put on it. It is not even made by Blizzard.

    That guy is a fucking moron.

  • Furzball
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:47pm

    Not sure why people think it's a bad idea. Just get a set that allows you to whirlwind blap everything and you're golden. Just steer with thumb. That's all diablo is. Getting the gear just to blap stuff faster.

  • ColonelVirus
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:52pm

    When did mobiles become good enough to support games like Diablo? 100% they're cutting the shit out of it.

  • GeometryPrime
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:54pm

    I... Actually agree with this. Not the toxic masculinity bit, obviously, but mobile games can be awesome if they're done right.

  • no___justno
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:54pm

    women playing games on phones is not the reason for the blowback

    my monitor is 27 inches

    my phone is 5 inches

    THIS is the reason for the blowback

  • Laughterjones
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 8:08pm

    These are the same people that said rulesets are gatekeeping. I hate this modern culture so much.

  • Dan_Dairam
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 8:08pm

    I didn't hate Diablo 3, at least not after they got rid of the Auction House and tailored your loot drops to your class, but I seriously don't give a shit about some mobile variant. I don't hate mobile gaming because of women or normies or whatever, I hate mobile gaming because I hate touchscreens. I need the tactile feedback that buttons provide order to be properly immersed in a game. If I have to take my eyes off the action to try an find the key I need to hit every single time than the game just becomes a massive chore to play. It doesn't help that almost all mobile games are easy as fuck for the first 5+ hours and then rain in the cashshop mobage shit. If I wanted to pay to play a game, I'd much rather pay up front than deal with their Skinner Box psychological bullshit they specifically designed to bleed the whales dry.

  • nottinghillnapoleon
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 8:19pm

    "Traditionally?" How long has mobile gaming been around for, a decade?

  • y_nnis
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 8:21pm

    They really are playing SJW bingo don't they?

    Do they get extra points in life if they manage to fit in all the "big words" their handlers feed them?

  • likwidfire2k
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 8:22pm

    The problem is mobile games are this generations movie licensed games, 99/100 you know are going to be crap.

  • magister0
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 8:24pm

    it's not our fault that girls are filthy casuals

  • X13thangelx
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 8:33pm

    I don't think the problem was that it's mobile so much as that's the "big" blizzcon announcement.

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  • gatorgrips
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 8:38pm

    Wow fuck Will Powers.

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  • SixtyFours
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 8:07pm

    Just a few things about this thread:

    1. When OP says "SJWs", all he is showing is one person in the image.

    2. That person in the image is a PR director. Just a little food for thought.

  • ceyen1
    150 points Nov 02,2018, 5:53pm

    Isn't it sexist to assume that women are only into mobile gaming?

  • wpiurbhpiuew
    264 points Nov 02,2018, 5:42pm

    Girls and women will not be the people who play diablo on their phones.

  • Bottleroach
    108 points Nov 02,2018, 5:55pm

    No, I associate mobile with a cheap cash-grab business strategy. Mobile hardware caught up with specs of the software that's being developed? What the fuck is that suppose to even mean? Does this dipshit realize it's not going to actually be a PC/console Diablo port?

    To say shitting on this idiotic mobile attempt is gatekeeping is like saying there is an equivalence of experience between a toy Ferrari and a real Ferrari.

  • sparklegeddon
    32 points Nov 02,2018, 5:47pm

    Or maybe people just hate playing games with their thumbs and dealing with fingerprints

  • nodeworx
    36 points Nov 02,2018, 6:13pm

    O.k. then... Apparently disagreeing with blatant money-grabs in favor of good quality content/games is toxic masculinity.

    This is not the argument of anybody at all interested in gaming as a real hobby or culture.

    It's a fucking sad state of affairs...

    Unfortunately, given that the mobile game is still probably going to make shitloads of money, he'll probably be able to use that fact in the future that he was actually right about this nonsensical claim.

     

    I'm more and more disgusted with the fact that most of AAA gaming is turning into Hollywood 2.0 where all that matters is squeezing increasingly mediocre amounts of money out of half-assed sequels and copycats of marginally original independent games.

     

    As a gamer that's 45 years old and still remembers the excitement of playing Pitfall on an old Atari 2600, it's become fucking hard to even give a 'meh' about any 'big' release these days.

  • ComradeSomo
    23 points Nov 02,2018, 5:59pm

    I'm sick of being attacked as a "gatekeeper" for wanting a quality product.

  • CrankyDClown
    72 points Nov 02,2018, 5:37pm

    Diablo, on phones.

    Yeah, pretty glad I sunk a good chunk of change into Path of Exile, uninstalled Diablo + the Battle.net launcher and never looked back.

  • Castle_of_Decay
    26 points Nov 02,2018, 5:49pm

    Do you think I care about Diablo after Diablo 3?

    Auction house at the beginning, no skill choice on level up, drop chances tweaked to such miniscule percentage as to force people to buy drops on AH.

    Hah, nope. Diablo is dead and maggot ridden.

  • nameless22
    11 points Nov 02,2018, 5:55pm

    Hot take: Will Powers is a fucking idiot.

  • RURUKOvich
    35 points Nov 02,2018, 5:54pm

    dead gaem

    Women who play candy fucking crush won't play diablo on mobile, because they're not interested in the basic premise of slaying shit in fantasy world. The audience who will play such game already has dungeon hunter.

    By the way, is he having a giggle? Resource intensive game like diablo? Absolute kek.

    But blizzard fanboys will suck it down nevertheless, just like they did with diablo 3. "But it got better!11" Ye, but it still ain't cheaper and I still won't buy it as long as PoE exists. Which is free.

  • Ricwulf
    7 points Nov 02,2018, 6:14pm

    So much wrong. For starters, mobile tech is not up to scratch at all. It's certainly come a long way, but it still ain't there.

    Then there is the issue of microtransactions, which are practically a guarantee for mobile.

    Then there is the degradation of mechanics to work with a mobile interface, which creates a shallower game.

    So which one do you want to pick? Audience has nothing to do with it, and it's not "gatekeeping" to want quality products.

  • boommicfucker
    6 points Nov 02,2018, 7:14pm

    This is what happens when you absolutely must apply your favourite theory about how society works to absolutely everything. No, people don't think mobile gaming is shit because women do it, they think it's shit because 1) the prevalence of absolutely cancerous monetization and the resulting skinner box optimized gameplay and 2) it severely limits what developers can do, not because of a lack of computation power, but because there are no physical controls.

    How the fuck can someone who's worked in the industry not be aware of that and conclude that that's the reason people dislike it, not misogyny or weak hardware specs?

    And, speaking of toxic masculinity:

    Launch this dude into the sun. This is beyond disrespectful to all the developers and people that have been working their butts off. https://clips.twitch.tv/embed?clip=PunchyImpossibleCoyoteYouWHY

    He's also said that he works "on mobile", so I guess that's why he's so buttmad about the reaction. What did they expect, though? Rounds of applause from their core, mostly PC, fanbase that was hoping for something for them? And he's justifying it by claiming that people don't want others to enjoy it, which is just bollocks.

  • wallace321
    6 points Nov 02,2018, 6:22pm

    Good lord. Do they really think it's the PHONE that draws in that female audience? That you could sell them ANY garbage, as long as it's on a phone?

    Also, it makes sense for them to say that dissing phone gaming is anti-women, since the glorious PC gaming master race, is afterall, literally hitler. At least they're consistent; everyone is sexist, everyone is a nazi. Glad we still have that going.

  • midnight_riddle
    5 points Nov 02,2018, 6:41pm

    Is this guy finally admitting that women are predominantly interested in mobile phone games rather than consoles or PC and that they skew the "50% of gamers are women" statistics?

  • AJK64
    4 points Nov 02,2018, 6:46pm

    What isn't misogyny these days? The word has been stretched so far that anything can be misogyny...air con, and shitty mobile games included.

  • Ihateregistering6
    5 points Nov 02,2018, 6:51pm

    I'm stunned at the number of people playing still playing D3. Even with the changes, the game is a shadow of what D2 was.

    All character builds are practically the same until past level 70 (minus equipment), equipment makes no sense (how can my scrawny Necromancer wield a gigantic battle axe, and why does it cause him to do more damage shooting bone spikes out of the ground?), and the game lost a lot of the gritty, Gothic feel that was so great in D1 and D2.

    Honestly, since D3 came out, we've gotten Torchlight 2, Path of Exile, and Grim Dawn, all of which I'd argue are much better ARPGs.

  • sundayatnoon
    3 points Nov 02,2018, 7:21pm

    I haven't seen a single complaint against gate keeping that hasn't reinforced or encouraged the practice if for no other reason than to keep out the author of that opinion.

  • MikiSayaka33
    3 points Nov 02,2018, 5:54pm

    Misogyny? Personally, I usually see mobile gaming as inferior to console and pc. Too bad we can't dare the sjws to even play this Diablo game and put money in their mouths.

  • Joulaaa
    3 points Nov 02,2018, 6:09pm

    Imagine being verified and getting that many likes.

  • FarRightTopKeks
    3 points Nov 02,2018, 6:16pm

    It wouldn't possibly be that after a year of them hyping diablo the worst thing possible was revealed, a fucking mobile game, yeah people totally wanna burn phone battery and cramp their hands playing an ARPG on a God damn phone.

    After leaving diablo 3 for dead this was the worst possible thing to reveal as a headline, this should've accompanied another game.

  • wallace321
    3 points Nov 02,2018, 6:32pm

    Are they really going to blame disdain for the mobile trash gaming experience on sexism? Jesus Christ they are fucking shameless.

    Let me guess, PC gamers hate console gamers because they are too poor to afford a proper PCMR computer? Also blacks and jews because "master race".

    Stupid or shameless, can't tell. Industry shill, so i'm going to say 'both'.

  • GreenBean59
    3 points Nov 02,2018, 6:44pm

    As someone not surprised by blizzard announcement and also thinking people being outraged about a mobile game are basically children, the idea that it’s because of toxic masculinity is just aids.

  • Soup_Navy_Admiral
    3 points Nov 02,2018, 7:12pm

    The people that bash on mobile gaming...

    Seeing the success they've had with Hearthstone on mobile, they know the potential of that audience.

    Soooo, the Hearthstone audience has shown a surge of eager support for the game already? Or is the mythical audience you speak of actually composed of the people you wrote off (and slagged off) in the first tweet?

     

    take a step back and realize how shitty you sound as a gatekeeper to the franchise.

    Says the attempted gatekeeper to all gaming.

  • Limon_Lime
    2 points Nov 02,2018, 5:47pm

    Huh? Why? The trailer shows the girl save the guy.

  • ScapeZero
    2 points Nov 02,2018, 6:24pm

    Since when has a Blizzard game been resource intensive?

    You can't sit there and seriously think specs are what have held Blizzard from making a game on mobile. UE3 was impressive as fuck when it made it to iOS, and that was fucking years ago.

  • MeSmeshFruit
    2 points Nov 02,2018, 6:24pm

    I honestly think this is just clever clickbaiting, I dare say ingenious.

  • B-VOLLEYBALL-READY
    2 points Nov 02,2018, 6:37pm

    Who the fuck is this clown? His name is familiar.

  • ParasiteSteve
    2 points Nov 02,2018, 7:04pm

    Congrats to phones, you can now play a bad game from 2012 without emulation. My hats off to you.

  • Singulaire
    2 points Nov 02,2018, 7:13pm

    mobile hardware has finally caught up in specs to the software that's being developed

    1) Game development has always been about using the available hardware resources. When hardware progresses, games would add more complex textures, more objects, etc. The idea that hardware is "catching up" is ridiculous, because the software is always developed to match the hardware.

    2) The thing limiting mobile gaming isn't processing power or memory, or even battery life- it's the form factor. Mobile phones have had the computing power to run early 2000's games for years, but ports of such games aren't very popular because they're very uncomfortable to play on a tiny 6'' screen that has to also house all of the controls.

  • TinyWightSpider
    2 points Nov 02,2018, 7:18pm

    Mobile is very much a viable platform for resource intensive games like Diablo

    Herp Derp your cell phone is a gamestation now!

    The only good mobile games are the ones you can play for just a few moments at a time, that have no loading screens, that have no storyline, and that you can stop playing in an instant when the light changes or your bus shows up or whatever you were waiting on while playing a mobile game finally happens.

  • A_Wild_Taka_Appears
    2 points Nov 02,2018, 7:48pm

    Or it could be that mobile gaming is almost entirely terrible and exists solely to rip people off.

  • Kannonn
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:57pm

    This is it, folks. I truly could not have come up with this as a joke.

  • camclemons
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 8:17pm

    Toxic masculinity isn't the same thing as misogyny. He's arguing that men value masculinity to the extent that anything that isn't masculine is bad. He interprets this as an attack on the casual aspect of mobile to set up a straw man and divert attention away from the actual issues people have, the least of which is announcing a port for a game you already play to a format that you don't play.

    He's got a point that it makes it more accessible to a wider audience, but that's when you go for the TV commercials, not main stage at Blizzcon.

  • mnemosyne-0001
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 5:36pm

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  • Exzodium
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:09pm

    Psssh they can buy it if they want. Blizzard needs a few saps if this is gonna work for them.

  • MagFreakingNeto
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:11pm

    I’m looking forward to trying it but like with any game with virtual joysticks it’ll probably be a bad time

  • 8675309999999999
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:24pm

    the soy should wait til the pricing comes out

    notice that plug in the trailer about it being an MMO?

    MMO sub model/game-as-a-service

    everyone that's complaining about the Diablo on mobile announcement - take a step back and realize how shitty you sound as a gatekeeper to the franchise

    shaming to get what they want? must be a male feminist

  • blackmagic12345
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:27pm

    No i associate mobile gaming with 5000$ credit card bills for Candy Racer Saga Ultimate Platinum jujubemod points.

  • H_Guderian
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:28pm

    No, smart phones have not "caught up" to a full gaming PC.

  • UseBrinkWithDown
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:31pm

    This is so dumb - this is so dumb that I refuse to believe a black hole of stupidity like this can exist simply because it would have created such a massive gravity well of dumbness that it would have destroyed the universe by now. This has to be some self-loathing loser consciously shitting on himself to look good to his woke friends or something.

  • 274DE97BAB
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:34pm

    waaah muh sojiny

  • HahThatsSilly
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:35pm

    Does anyone actually associate mobile gaming with being heavily female? When I think mobile gaming, I think of nerds like me -- people glued to their phone waiting in line, out for dinner, on the train, on the bus, etc.

    I certainly don't think women.

  • CBruce
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:35pm

    I don't think anyone assumes that mobile games are still primarily played by a female audience. Everyone plays mobile games. They've become as mainstream as an PC or console game.

    The issue with mobile games is their core design philosophies, how they're monetized, and how those trickle out into other game designs on other platforms. Not what's between any particular player's legs.

  • irontoaster
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:36pm

    Nothing can kill my hype for this except playing it and it being bad.

  • shinbreaker
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:38pm

    Alright folks, let's take bets. Who's going to be the first site to parrot this "hot take?"

    Kotaku? Polygon? Or will an underdog like Eurogamer come in and steal the glory?

  • bunker_man
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:39pm

    It's more than people don't like that Mobile gaming more or less always means a really shitty product. More often than that which is explicitly based around microtransactions in way that most non mobile games aren't quite as much.

  • TheImpossible1
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:39pm

    The only game that I've ever had any enjoyment out of on mobile was Asphalt 8.

    The Fortnite port was okay, but I can't get the hang of the controls so I just open it to buy skins when the store refreshes - saving me having to get out of bed if I'm awake at that time.

  • SarcasticCarebear
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:44pm

    Diablo Immortal is an existing p2w mobile game that sucks, reskinned a little and with the name Diablo put on it. It is not even made by Blizzard.

    That guy is a fucking moron.

  • Furzball
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:47pm

    Not sure why people think it's a bad idea. Just get a set that allows you to whirlwind blap everything and you're golden. Just steer with thumb. That's all diablo is. Getting the gear just to blap stuff faster.

  • ColonelVirus
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:52pm

    When did mobiles become good enough to support games like Diablo? 100% they're cutting the shit out of it.

  • GeometryPrime
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:54pm

    I... Actually agree with this. Not the toxic masculinity bit, obviously, but mobile games can be awesome if they're done right.

  • no___justno
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 7:54pm

    women playing games on phones is not the reason for the blowback

    my monitor is 27 inches

    my phone is 5 inches

    THIS is the reason for the blowback

  • Laughterjones
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 8:08pm

    These are the same people that said rulesets are gatekeeping. I hate this modern culture so much.

  • Dan_Dairam
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 8:08pm

    I didn't hate Diablo 3, at least not after they got rid of the Auction House and tailored your loot drops to your class, but I seriously don't give a shit about some mobile variant. I don't hate mobile gaming because of women or normies or whatever, I hate mobile gaming because I hate touchscreens. I need the tactile feedback that buttons provide order to be properly immersed in a game. If I have to take my eyes off the action to try an find the key I need to hit every single time than the game just becomes a massive chore to play. It doesn't help that almost all mobile games are easy as fuck for the first 5+ hours and then rain in the cashshop mobage shit. If I wanted to pay to play a game, I'd much rather pay up front than deal with their Skinner Box psychological bullshit they specifically designed to bleed the whales dry.

  • nottinghillnapoleon
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 8:19pm

    "Traditionally?" How long has mobile gaming been around for, a decade?

  • y_nnis
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 8:21pm

    They really are playing SJW bingo don't they?

    Do they get extra points in life if they manage to fit in all the "big words" their handlers feed them?

  • likwidfire2k
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 8:22pm

    The problem is mobile games are this generations movie licensed games, 99/100 you know are going to be crap.

  • magister0
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 8:24pm

    it's not our fault that girls are filthy casuals

  • X13thangelx
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 8:33pm

    I don't think the problem was that it's mobile so much as that's the "big" blizzcon announcement.

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  • gatorgrips
    1 points Nov 02,2018, 8:38pm

    Wow fuck Will Powers.

● ● ●

Netflix showrunner outright lying to Witcher fans about the casting beforehand. "I will not deviate from the book's races and cultures..." - proceeds to cast several black (and one Indian) actors for white roles.

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  • Icitestuff
    401 points Nov 01,2018, 1:22am

    "Hello author. You're not a racist are you?"

    "N-n-no...."

    "See, I'm just honoring the author's work!"

  • NeverTryAgainEver
    467 points Nov 01,2018, 1:54am

    I love how she subtly admitted that they have no one that actual knows or understands polish culture on their writing team.

    Fuck her. I knew not to trust her.

  • SantGamer
    29 points Nov 01,2018, 9:36am

    Boy howdy this sure looks good for their upcoming Tolkien fanfic, doesn't it?

    "Hey why is there an African-descended looking Ranger from Eriador?"

    "It's just like Tolkien wanted!"

    "But why is there a Hispanic elf, in a homose-"

    "IT'S JUST LIKE TOLKIEN WANTED, I SAID."

  • Unplussed
    540 points Oct 31,2018, 11:59pm

    "SJW's always lie."

  • youreruiningit
    394 points Nov 01,2018, 12:58am

    I never imagined myself being anything other than pumped for a Witcher adaptation. Yet, here I am. At this point I'm not even irritated, I just don't care. It's already got the social justice stink on it and I'm just not interested in parsing through anything like that. My time is just too valuable. Pass.

  • SsaEborp
    124 points Oct 31,2018, 11:57pm

    Someone needs to start an album of these, there were a bunch of statements similar to this IIRC.

  • ScottPress
    100 points Nov 01,2018, 4:24am

    This could just be another "Hermione Granger's ethnicity isn't explicitly stated in the books".

  • Dis_mah_mobile_one
    158 points Nov 01,2018, 1:01am

    They literally cannot help themselves. An all white anything is anathema to them.

  • Raz0rking
    30 points Nov 01,2018, 8:04am

    The Witcher subreddit is really happy about some of the cast /s ...oh boy

  • Player_Slayer_7
    47 points Nov 01,2018, 7:32am

    I'm honoring the author's own intentions. He told me so himself

    Oh, you mean the same guy who couldn't even honor his own deal with CD Project Red in regards to the games, and is now trying to sue for millions years after the fact? That guy?

  • ITIIiiIiiIiTTIIITiIi
    25 points Nov 01,2018, 8:18am

    Triss should have been cast as a red head...

  • KreepingLizard
    84 points Nov 01,2018, 3:08am

    I can' remember. Was this the show that also specifically sent out casting calls for specific races?

  • BForBandana
    21 points Nov 01,2018, 9:27am

    The show will fail after one season and they'll say "there was no interest". SJWs trying to ruin everything good.

  • z827
    132 points Nov 01,2018, 2:44am

    The answer is: I will not deviate from the books' races and cultures, which means I WILL include minorities.

    Will I move through the book and start changing people's cultural heritage of ethnic makeup or gender because I'm feeling really "liberal" that day? No. That's ridiculous and contrary to what ANY writer would do, because we are storytellers. Story comes first.

    It's like watching a confused pigeon attempting to become roadkill.

  • fourthwallcrisis
    213 points Nov 01,2018, 2:50am
    • Ghostbuster
    • star wars
    • witcher

    Can someone tell me when I should pay attention to normie media again, please?

  • Seddhledesse
    18 points Nov 01,2018, 8:27am

    Meanwhile everyone shat their pants when Matt Damon and Pedro Pascal were in a movie set in Song Dynasty China. Despite the fact there was a reason for them being there(gunpowder)

  • JoeyFNK
    44 points Nov 01,2018, 5:28am

    Some word of advice in the future, you will never see an all whote cast in a show made in America again.

  • Sks44
    81 points Nov 01,2018, 1:58am

    Never, ever concede anything to SJWs. It will never be enough.

  • The_Killbot
    68 points Nov 01,2018, 2:22am

    I had the misfortune to be made aware of the Netflix adaptation of Death Note today. After that, this Witcher stuff seems pretty mild.

  • kaszak696
    15 points Nov 01,2018, 6:16am

    I was certain that they can't do worse than the 2001 adaptation, seems like i was proven wrong. Fuck, i was hoping it would actually be watchable.

  • Xixii
    34 points Nov 01,2018, 5:36am

    This show is going to be such garbage. What a shame.

  • Mister_McDerp
    29 points Nov 01,2018, 5:42am

    Ignoring all that, I just wish Geralt wouldn't look so young. I was hyped for henry cavill, but they REALLY need to age him up 1 or 2 decades...

  • PurpleGrape401
    29 points Nov 01,2018, 6:07am

    What astounds me is that people are surprised. It is Netflix.

  • OneTruePhilosoraptor
    138 points Nov 01,2018, 12:05am

    Oh another feminist sjw lying?Who would have thought?

  • ddsci
    48 points Nov 01,2018, 4:12am

    Netflix anything tends to be utter cancer these days. Stop giving them money.

  • archangelgabriel12
    68 points Nov 01,2018, 5:40am

    being born in europe: so I guess the cast of black panther can be all white since there are plenty of white south africans born in africa

    half her life in central europe--who exactly?

    someone whose family is polish--who exactly?

  • InsufferableHaunt
    56 points Nov 01,2018, 3:37am
  • MeSmeshFruit
    21 points Nov 01,2018, 3:43am

    Oh yeah I expect not so subtle allegories about with the Elves, Northern Kingdoms and NIlfgaard affection the royal succession so a crazy rich guy can become king...

  • Tehtwo
    20 points Nov 01,2018, 5:53am

    That's the most aggravating part. They always lie about it as they try to jam as much of their progressive crap as they think they can get away with. They know that if they're honest from the start, no one would look twice at it.

    Luckily she pushed this in with the grace of an elephant from the start instead of incrementally half way into the run of the show after people are already invested.

  • y_nnis
    34 points Nov 01,2018, 5:54am

    "Trust my words, not my actions," becoming the norm is truly disgusting.

  • Therealsam216
    30 points Nov 01,2018, 5:57am

    I hope this show fails and is a good example of how you don’t pander to the whiny majority

  • Aleitheo
    10 points Nov 01,2018, 8:29am

    It doesn't matter that an actor spent half their life in Europe, was born there, or that they have Polish family. After all, the actor isn't playing themselves now, are they? They are playing a character that was born and raised in this medieval Europe based world, so naturally the character should look like they and their ancestors were born and raised there, likely never travelling more than 10 miles from their home.

    The important thing is that they can look like they belong, like they fit their role. It doesn't matter if someone grew up in Europe (and modern melting pot Europe at that), if they can't look like they grew up there then it makes no difference.

  • heelydon
    32 points Nov 01,2018, 7:31am

    Not all too surprising either. Just go look up the actress they miscasted for Triss on instagram and you will find gems such as this about her political views:

    "We are being governed, globally, by xenophobic, misogynistic bigots who profit from the weak to distribute to the wealthy. The time is now to use whatever is at our disposal to combat this infectious behaviour. Be kind, be curious but above all be ready."

  • AnvilofSpinning
    16 points Nov 01,2018, 11:06am

    Ghazi is linking to this thread.

    KKKIA has convinced themselves that they were promised that there would be no non-white people in Netflix's Witcher adaptation.

    No one said this. What people were expecting is the established characters to reflect their description to an extend. Triss isn't colored. She is PALE.

    as most white supremacists do when confronted with universes that aren't 100% white. Here's the thread with their rage:

    Plenty of us, including me, ain't white. Neither American.

    As usual, gators fail on reading comprehension.

    right. So about this...

    Here's the tweet thread in question, which absolutely clearly states that there will be non-white people in the cast

    And no one objects to that, people object to "brown washing" a clearly described PALE character. Speaks of comprehensive reading, fails to do so. Ghazis are such delusional people. The tweet posted CLEARLY says will not deviate from races. They clearly did with Triss. You dumb motherfuck.

    Also

    BUT MUH POLAND ERASURE

    They complain about how it's just Americans not giving a shit about polish culture or people, whatever.

    But these are the same SJW who think polish representation shouldn't be a thing either because "white people". Meanwhile clearly ignoring historical context in which the polish people suffered. Their self righteous shit only seems to extend to whatever fits their narrative. Absolutely pathetic.

  • PM_YOUR_SIDE_CLUNGE
    24 points Nov 01,2018, 6:34am

    Why do liberals have to use so many words for everything?

    She could've just wrote "We'll keep races true to the source material"

  • Schwaggaccino
    6 points Nov 01,2018, 8:27am

    Just don’t watch it. Tell your friends not to watch it either. They wanna play hard ok. Hit em where it hurts - the ratings.

  • Combustibles
    7 points Nov 01,2018, 9:35am

    Sapkowski hates his own fans. Netflix is just honouring that.

  • pk_c1n_xx
    8 points Nov 01,2018, 10:54am

    We can't dehumanize White people if we start admitting that they have a culture, so obviously we have to inject our neo-liberal ideology into everything.

    /s

  • piccolo3nj
    26 points Nov 01,2018, 6:13am

    Lord of the rings is all white, aint it? Wtf is the problem? Black Panther was all black because it was set in Africa. I don't get it.

  • blobbybag
    14 points Nov 01,2018, 8:20am

    "half her life in central europe"
    European is a race, not a zipcode.

  • Chill_Confirmed
    38 points Nov 01,2018, 12:44am

    People are still subscribed to Netflix?

  • Gram0ph0ne
    12 points Nov 01,2018, 5:26am

    boycott and tell them not only will you not watch it but you will kill your netflix account

  • likwidfire2k
    8 points Nov 01,2018, 6:14am

    So I am not a lawyer by any means, but I have applied to a ton of jobs, and every single one has a long ass disclaimer about how it's illegal to discriminate based on anything in the hiring process. Do casting crews get to skip that law to make characters look right? Genuinely curious as I think about it, although i may have just come up with the perfect excuse in the process.

  • DaFetacheeseugh
    5 points Nov 01,2018, 9:16am

    So if netflix can't produce anything worth while anymore, what's going to happen to their actual good three shows when everyone else makes their streaming package into one to effectively kill netflix

  • mob16151
    3 points Nov 01,2018, 9:34am

    Dave Chapelle as Dandelion. lol

  • botchnade
    16 points Nov 01,2018, 6:47am

    I really hope Netflix fires her. It's a shame what she does with The Witcher franchise. The cast is horrible. I didn't had high expectations for it, but she still crushed it. Netflix should have made an animation like Castlevania, it's pretty good and don't have blackwashing. Everybody should write on her twitter what an awful job she makes and I don't mean death threats or making threats to her family. She is a shitty person and a shitty producer.

  • bassline17
    23 points Nov 01,2018, 5:09am

    And some clown tried to tell me you cannot judge the writers by looking at their picture

  • Rimmorn
    12 points Nov 01,2018, 4:12am

    Just leave it, not really worth the time. It will most likely fail on it's own, no need to nudge it.

  • Cyberjynx
    5 points Nov 01,2018, 7:26am

    Let's get real here guys... I believe her when she wrote this. The hiring of "POCs" wasn't her decision, it was Netflix that made that call. Any evidence to my claim? Not really, but her replies a month or so back to people questioning the Bame Ciri were sound. As in she was calm and rational and not your typical "YOU'RE RACIST" nonsense.

  • Wulfgar_RIP
    11 points Nov 01,2018, 5:14am

    They appropriating Slavic culture.

  • Elethor
    3 points Nov 01,2018, 7:34am

    As if I expected any less, I look forward to the show crashing and burning.

  • EliteTK
    3 points Nov 01,2018, 8:33am

    If people want to watch a Witcher series, why not just watch the original one which aired on Polish television? I'm sure someone has written subtitles, and if not, I might be able to do it given a year or two :P

  • tksmase
    3 points Nov 01,2018, 12:21pm

    Hopefully this fails miserably like the logic board behind that showrunner’s thick skull.

    Netflix really films anything these days like that South Park episode shown us

  • Agkistro13
    3 points Nov 01,2018, 3:10pm

    "If you don't specifically state the skin color of a character in a story about medival Poland, it could be literally anything."

    I mean, I don't remember Annales Cambriae saying what skin tone Merlin had, so he may as well look like Chow Yun Fat.

  • RaygunnerRei
    3 points Nov 01,2018, 5:32pm

    To play devils advocate. I mean. . . they always use this argument. . .but it does have at least some merit.

    So you'll accept an Alternate History Medieval Poland with Trolls, Werewolves, Elves, Fairies and Bird-people. But not those with a different skintone?

  • ATL_Dirtybird4Ever
    2 points Nov 01,2018, 9:56am

    I mean this is Netflix. Even if they did a good job with the cast they would still find a way to fuck it up. I have no faith whatsoever in it.

  • LR_DAC
    2 points Nov 01,2018, 4:39pm

    "A person of color would be a minority in a small village."

    What a bizarre sentiment. I guess POCs are inherently urban, and whites are inherently rural. And cities are all majority POC, while small villages are all majority white.

    This might reflect the writer's perception of America, but it certainly isn't true on a global scale. I don't know if it would be true in the Witcher universe, or the setting of the Witcher stories. My impression was that a POC would be a minority anywhere in the Witcher's country.

  • RaygunnerRei
    2 points Nov 01,2018, 5:12pm

    I just feel bad for Henry Cavill. First the Superman role not panning out and now THIS? Jesus.

  • TheRedThirst
    2 points Nov 01,2018, 7:04pm

    there will be one person of colour in a small village

    ~head desk~

    You DENSE motherfucker, there were no people of colour in medieval Poland, therefor the Polish mythology of the time wouldn’t play host to them either, they don’t exist

    I don’t claim Australian Aboriginals tell stories of White minorities in the Dreamtime do I? Fuck off with this shit.

  • mnemosyne-0001
    2 points Oct 31,2018, 11:54pm

    Archive links for this post:


    I am Mnemosyne reborn. Bite my shiny, metal archive. /r/botsrights

  • chinoz219
    1 points Nov 01,2018, 4:26pm

    Well after i saw henry cavill wig and costume i just lost hope for a good series, theres cosplaybthat looks better.

  • TJEDWARDS18
    1 points Nov 01,2018, 6:41pm

    This show is gonna be so fucking bad

  • King_Brutus
    1 points Nov 01,2018, 8:39pm

    Lauren: "I really want to honor the source material that millions of people love and adore"

    Audience: "Oh you mean the games that already have recognizable characters that people have established connections to?"

    Lauren: "The what now?"

  • MaximumNameDensity
    1 points Nov 01,2018, 6:45am

    I wish we could just pick the person that auditions best... wouldn't that be a simpler system than racial and identity quotas?

  • OblongSnowball
    -8 points Nov 01,2018, 5:55am

    Who cares?

  • flyingpilgrim
    1 points Nov 01,2018, 2:56pm

    Maybe it wasn’t their decision, but an executive’s or a producer’s? There’s a lot of creative decisions that get imposed upon shows or films, based upon that.

  • dark_devil_dd
    -7 points Nov 01,2018, 4:02am

    I think people are making this a bigger deal then it actually is. I didn't think Scarlet Johanson being casted in Ghost in a Shell (even though the movie sux) and I don't see how it's necessarily bad in the Witcher. I'll wait and see how it's executed.

  • Ambrosiac7
    -1 points Nov 01,2018, 9:09am

    Isn't this old though? The casting was announced days ago. Why is there backlash now? And there are several black characters? As far as I'm aware there is only one. Is there anyone else? As for Anya Chalotra playing Yennefer. Yes she's half Indian but I don't see why that is a problem when she looks the part. Were she to look like a different character I'd understand but she doesn't. And people complaining about Geralt looking younger, he should be. The series covers Last Wish and Sword of Destiny, the first two books in the series. 20 years before the Witcher 3. In fact, how he looks in Witcher 2 is a very good interpretation of that.

    This is a very mild case of sjw infiltrating media imo. The major casts seem fine and only a minor character seems to have changed race. Would it be better if it weren't? Definitely. Would the show be trash now? No. I'd wait and watch it to find out. I don't want to judge things based on preconceptions. Something which we give the sjw side a lot of flak for doing. I don't like how Netflix handles some stuff but I do generally like some of the things they put out.

  • swordmagic
    -8 points Nov 01,2018, 11:47am

    Wahhh non-white people are scary wahh

  • Zefrem23
    -10 points Nov 01,2018, 10:35am

    Does it really matter if some of the people are different races? Some of the folks here are starting to really act a bit too much like white nationalists for my taste. And I say that as someone who's wholeheartedly supported the GG cause since the beginning.

  • akaorenji
    -8 points Nov 01,2018, 9:49am

    Honestly, who cares?

  • dabigsiebowski
    -7 points Nov 01,2018, 12:12pm

    This entire post is racist. Who cares honestly and as if we wanna discuss the whitewashing we've had in the film industry then we can. You guys need to get a grip seriously and quit trying to battle every little SJW scenario you see because guess what... sometimes they do have a point. I'm white and I couldn't be more hyped for Witcher on Netflix. Stay upset over skin color babies.

    Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson are both the biggest idiots ever who warped your sad little minds. And another thing, This subreddit has become so insecure about every little decision they feel is wrong its cringe worthy. This sub use to call out simple misguided tones across industry's and now it's become a haven for little man babies to stay upset about the world rather than giving constructive criticism like it used to.

  • FourthLife
    -4 points Nov 01,2018, 11:36am

    Is it central to the characters to be white?

  • Perfect600
    -9 points Nov 01,2018, 9:57am

    Guy as long as it's not a main role who cares. I judge it when it's out.

    Edit: judging things when they are completed is stupid I guess

  • Gizortnik
    -2 points Nov 01,2018, 10:16am

    OP, I'm confused and not familiar with the controversy.

    It seems like this woman was saying that it was never her intention to not have """"diverse"""" casting. It seems like she wasn't lying in this post; just rationalizing why the cast should be """"diverse"""".

COMMENTS

  • Icitestuff
    401 points Nov 01,2018, 1:22am

    "Hello author. You're not a racist are you?"

    "N-n-no...."

    "See, I'm just honoring the author's work!"

  • NeverTryAgainEver
    467 points Nov 01,2018, 1:54am

    I love how she subtly admitted that they have no one that actual knows or understands polish culture on their writing team.

    Fuck her. I knew not to trust her.

  • SantGamer
    29 points Nov 01,2018, 9:36am

    Boy howdy this sure looks good for their upcoming Tolkien fanfic, doesn't it?

    "Hey why is there an African-descended looking Ranger from Eriador?"

    "It's just like Tolkien wanted!"

    "But why is there a Hispanic elf, in a homose-"

    "IT'S JUST LIKE TOLKIEN WANTED, I SAID."

  • CantripFiesta
    60 points Nov 01,2018, 7:44am

    'I did not lie, I just changed my mind immediately after I spoke to you.'

  • Unplussed
    540 points Oct 31,2018, 11:59pm

    "SJW's always lie."

  • youreruiningit
    394 points Nov 01,2018, 12:58am

    I never imagined myself being anything other than pumped for a Witcher adaptation. Yet, here I am. At this point I'm not even irritated, I just don't care. It's already got the social justice stink on it and I'm just not interested in parsing through anything like that. My time is just too valuable. Pass.

  • SsaEborp
    124 points Oct 31,2018, 11:57pm

    Someone needs to start an album of these, there were a bunch of statements similar to this IIRC.

  • ScottPress
    100 points Nov 01,2018, 4:24am

    This could just be another "Hermione Granger's ethnicity isn't explicitly stated in the books".

  • Dis_mah_mobile_one
    158 points Nov 01,2018, 1:01am

    They literally cannot help themselves. An all white anything is anathema to them.

  • Raz0rking
    30 points Nov 01,2018, 8:04am

    The Witcher subreddit is really happy about some of the cast /s ...oh boy

  • Player_Slayer_7
    47 points Nov 01,2018, 7:32am

    I'm honoring the author's own intentions. He told me so himself

    Oh, you mean the same guy who couldn't even honor his own deal with CD Project Red in regards to the games, and is now trying to sue for millions years after the fact? That guy?

  • ITIIiiIiiIiTTIIITiIi
    25 points Nov 01,2018, 8:18am

    Triss should have been cast as a red head...

  • KreepingLizard
    84 points Nov 01,2018, 3:08am

    I can' remember. Was this the show that also specifically sent out casting calls for specific races?

  • BForBandana
    21 points Nov 01,2018, 9:27am

    The show will fail after one season and they'll say "there was no interest". SJWs trying to ruin everything good.

  • z827
    132 points Nov 01,2018, 2:44am

    The answer is: I will not deviate from the books' races and cultures, which means I WILL include minorities.

    Will I move through the book and start changing people's cultural heritage of ethnic makeup or gender because I'm feeling really "liberal" that day? No. That's ridiculous and contrary to what ANY writer would do, because we are storytellers. Story comes first.

    It's like watching a confused pigeon attempting to become roadkill.

  • fourthwallcrisis
    213 points Nov 01,2018, 2:50am
    • Ghostbuster
    • star wars
    • witcher

    Can someone tell me when I should pay attention to normie media again, please?

  • Seddhledesse
    18 points Nov 01,2018, 8:27am

    Meanwhile everyone shat their pants when Matt Damon and Pedro Pascal were in a movie set in Song Dynasty China. Despite the fact there was a reason for them being there(gunpowder)

  • JoeyFNK
    44 points Nov 01,2018, 5:28am

    Some word of advice in the future, you will never see an all whote cast in a show made in America again.

  • Sks44
    81 points Nov 01,2018, 1:58am

    Never, ever concede anything to SJWs. It will never be enough.

  • The_Killbot
    68 points Nov 01,2018, 2:22am

    I had the misfortune to be made aware of the Netflix adaptation of Death Note today. After that, this Witcher stuff seems pretty mild.

  • kaszak696
    15 points Nov 01,2018, 6:16am

    I was certain that they can't do worse than the 2001 adaptation, seems like i was proven wrong. Fuck, i was hoping it would actually be watchable.

  • Xixii
    34 points Nov 01,2018, 5:36am

    This show is going to be such garbage. What a shame.

  • Mister_McDerp
    29 points Nov 01,2018, 5:42am

    Ignoring all that, I just wish Geralt wouldn't look so young. I was hyped for henry cavill, but they REALLY need to age him up 1 or 2 decades...

  • PurpleGrape401
    29 points Nov 01,2018, 6:07am

    What astounds me is that people are surprised. It is Netflix.

  • OneTruePhilosoraptor
    138 points Nov 01,2018, 12:05am

    Oh another feminist sjw lying?Who would have thought?

  • ddsci
    48 points Nov 01,2018, 4:12am

    Netflix anything tends to be utter cancer these days. Stop giving them money.

  • archangelgabriel12
    68 points Nov 01,2018, 5:40am

    being born in europe: so I guess the cast of black panther can be all white since there are plenty of white south africans born in africa

    half her life in central europe--who exactly?

    someone whose family is polish--who exactly?

  • InsufferableHaunt
    56 points Nov 01,2018, 3:37am
  • MeSmeshFruit
    21 points Nov 01,2018, 3:43am

    Oh yeah I expect not so subtle allegories about with the Elves, Northern Kingdoms and NIlfgaard affection the royal succession so a crazy rich guy can become king...

  • Tehtwo
    20 points Nov 01,2018, 5:53am

    That's the most aggravating part. They always lie about it as they try to jam as much of their progressive crap as they think they can get away with. They know that if they're honest from the start, no one would look twice at it.

    Luckily she pushed this in with the grace of an elephant from the start instead of incrementally half way into the run of the show after people are already invested.

  • y_nnis
    34 points Nov 01,2018, 5:54am

    "Trust my words, not my actions," becoming the norm is truly disgusting.

  • Therealsam216
    30 points Nov 01,2018, 5:57am

    I hope this show fails and is a good example of how you don’t pander to the whiny majority

  • Aleitheo
    10 points Nov 01,2018, 8:29am

    It doesn't matter that an actor spent half their life in Europe, was born there, or that they have Polish family. After all, the actor isn't playing themselves now, are they? They are playing a character that was born and raised in this medieval Europe based world, so naturally the character should look like they and their ancestors were born and raised there, likely never travelling more than 10 miles from their home.

    The important thing is that they can look like they belong, like they fit their role. It doesn't matter if someone grew up in Europe (and modern melting pot Europe at that), if they can't look like they grew up there then it makes no difference.

  • heelydon
    32 points Nov 01,2018, 7:31am

    Not all too surprising either. Just go look up the actress they miscasted for Triss on instagram and you will find gems such as this about her political views:

    "We are being governed, globally, by xenophobic, misogynistic bigots who profit from the weak to distribute to the wealthy. The time is now to use whatever is at our disposal to combat this infectious behaviour. Be kind, be curious but above all be ready."

  • AnvilofSpinning
    16 points Nov 01,2018, 11:06am

    Ghazi is linking to this thread.

    KKKIA has convinced themselves that they were promised that there would be no non-white people in Netflix's Witcher adaptation.

    No one said this. What people were expecting is the established characters to reflect their description to an extend. Triss isn't colored. She is PALE.

    as most white supremacists do when confronted with universes that aren't 100% white. Here's the thread with their rage:

    Plenty of us, including me, ain't white. Neither American.

    As usual, gators fail on reading comprehension.

    right. So about this...

    Here's the tweet thread in question, which absolutely clearly states that there will be non-white people in the cast

    And no one objects to that, people object to "brown washing" a clearly described PALE character. Speaks of comprehensive reading, fails to do so. Ghazis are such delusional people. The tweet posted CLEARLY says will not deviate from races. They clearly did with Triss. You dumb motherfuck.

    Also

    BUT MUH POLAND ERASURE

    They complain about how it's just Americans not giving a shit about polish culture or people, whatever.

    But these are the same SJW who think polish representation shouldn't be a thing either because "white people". Meanwhile clearly ignoring historical context in which the polish people suffered. Their self righteous shit only seems to extend to whatever fits their narrative. Absolutely pathetic.

  • PM_YOUR_SIDE_CLUNGE
    24 points Nov 01,2018, 6:34am

    Why do liberals have to use so many words for everything?

    She could've just wrote "We'll keep races true to the source material"

  • Schwaggaccino
    6 points Nov 01,2018, 8:27am

    Just don’t watch it. Tell your friends not to watch it either. They wanna play hard ok. Hit em where it hurts - the ratings.

  • Combustibles
    7 points Nov 01,2018, 9:35am

    Sapkowski hates his own fans. Netflix is just honouring that.

  • pk_c1n_xx
    8 points Nov 01,2018, 10:54am

    We can't dehumanize White people if we start admitting that they have a culture, so obviously we have to inject our neo-liberal ideology into everything.

    /s

  • piccolo3nj
    26 points Nov 01,2018, 6:13am

    Lord of the rings is all white, aint it? Wtf is the problem? Black Panther was all black because it was set in Africa. I don't get it.

  • blobbybag
    14 points Nov 01,2018, 8:20am

    "half her life in central europe"
    European is a race, not a zipcode.

  • Chill_Confirmed
    38 points Nov 01,2018, 12:44am

    People are still subscribed to Netflix?

  • Gram0ph0ne
    12 points Nov 01,2018, 5:26am

    boycott and tell them not only will you not watch it but you will kill your netflix account

  • likwidfire2k
    8 points Nov 01,2018, 6:14am

    So I am not a lawyer by any means, but I have applied to a ton of jobs, and every single one has a long ass disclaimer about how it's illegal to discriminate based on anything in the hiring process. Do casting crews get to skip that law to make characters look right? Genuinely curious as I think about it, although i may have just come up with the perfect excuse in the process.

  • DaFetacheeseugh
    5 points Nov 01,2018, 9:16am

    So if netflix can't produce anything worth while anymore, what's going to happen to their actual good three shows when everyone else makes their streaming package into one to effectively kill netflix

  • mob16151
    3 points Nov 01,2018, 9:34am

    Dave Chapelle as Dandelion. lol

  • botchnade
    16 points Nov 01,2018, 6:47am

    I really hope Netflix fires her. It's a shame what she does with The Witcher franchise. The cast is horrible. I didn't had high expectations for it, but she still crushed it. Netflix should have made an animation like Castlevania, it's pretty good and don't have blackwashing. Everybody should write on her twitter what an awful job she makes and I don't mean death threats or making threats to her family. She is a shitty person and a shitty producer.

  • bassline17
    23 points Nov 01,2018, 5:09am

    And some clown tried to tell me you cannot judge the writers by looking at their picture

  • Rimmorn
    12 points Nov 01,2018, 4:12am

    Just leave it, not really worth the time. It will most likely fail on it's own, no need to nudge it.

  • Cyberjynx
    5 points Nov 01,2018, 7:26am

    Let's get real here guys... I believe her when she wrote this. The hiring of "POCs" wasn't her decision, it was Netflix that made that call. Any evidence to my claim? Not really, but her replies a month or so back to people questioning the Bame Ciri were sound. As in she was calm and rational and not your typical "YOU'RE RACIST" nonsense.

  • Wulfgar_RIP
    11 points Nov 01,2018, 5:14am

    They appropriating Slavic culture.

  • Elethor
    3 points Nov 01,2018, 7:34am

    As if I expected any less, I look forward to the show crashing and burning.

  • EliteTK
    3 points Nov 01,2018, 8:33am

    If people want to watch a Witcher series, why not just watch the original one which aired on Polish television? I'm sure someone has written subtitles, and if not, I might be able to do it given a year or two :P

  • tksmase
    3 points Nov 01,2018, 12:21pm

    Hopefully this fails miserably like the logic board behind that showrunner’s thick skull.

    Netflix really films anything these days like that South Park episode shown us

  • Agkistro13
    3 points Nov 01,2018, 3:10pm

    "If you don't specifically state the skin color of a character in a story about medival Poland, it could be literally anything."

    I mean, I don't remember Annales Cambriae saying what skin tone Merlin had, so he may as well look like Chow Yun Fat.

  • RaygunnerRei
    3 points Nov 01,2018, 5:32pm

    To play devils advocate. I mean. . . they always use this argument. . .but it does have at least some merit.

    So you'll accept an Alternate History Medieval Poland with Trolls, Werewolves, Elves, Fairies and Bird-people. But not those with a different skintone?

  • ATL_Dirtybird4Ever
    2 points Nov 01,2018, 9:56am

    I mean this is Netflix. Even if they did a good job with the cast they would still find a way to fuck it up. I have no faith whatsoever in it.

  • LR_DAC
    2 points Nov 01,2018, 4:39pm

    "A person of color would be a minority in a small village."

    What a bizarre sentiment. I guess POCs are inherently urban, and whites are inherently rural. And cities are all majority POC, while small villages are all majority white.

    This might reflect the writer's perception of America, but it certainly isn't true on a global scale. I don't know if it would be true in the Witcher universe, or the setting of the Witcher stories. My impression was that a POC would be a minority anywhere in the Witcher's country.

  • RaygunnerRei
    2 points Nov 01,2018, 5:12pm

    I just feel bad for Henry Cavill. First the Superman role not panning out and now THIS? Jesus.

  • TheRedThirst
    2 points Nov 01,2018, 7:04pm

    there will be one person of colour in a small village

    ~head desk~

    You DENSE motherfucker, there were no people of colour in medieval Poland, therefor the Polish mythology of the time wouldn’t play host to them either, they don’t exist

    I don’t claim Australian Aboriginals tell stories of White minorities in the Dreamtime do I? Fuck off with this shit.

  • mnemosyne-0001
    2 points Oct 31,2018, 11:54pm

    Archive links for this post:


    I am Mnemosyne reborn. Bite my shiny, metal archive. /r/botsrights

  • chinoz219
    1 points Nov 01,2018, 4:26pm

    Well after i saw henry cavill wig and costume i just lost hope for a good series, theres cosplaybthat looks better.

  • TJEDWARDS18
    1 points Nov 01,2018, 6:41pm

    This show is gonna be so fucking bad

  • King_Brutus
    1 points Nov 01,2018, 8:39pm

    Lauren: "I really want to honor the source material that millions of people love and adore"

    Audience: "Oh you mean the games that already have recognizable characters that people have established connections to?"

    Lauren: "The what now?"

  • MaximumNameDensity
    1 points Nov 01,2018, 6:45am

    I wish we could just pick the person that auditions best... wouldn't that be a simpler system than racial and identity quotas?

  • OblongSnowball
    -8 points Nov 01,2018, 5:55am

    Who cares?

  • flyingpilgrim
    1 points Nov 01,2018, 2:56pm

    Maybe it wasn’t their decision, but an executive’s or a producer’s? There’s a lot of creative decisions that get imposed upon shows or films, based upon that.

  • dark_devil_dd
    -7 points Nov 01,2018, 4:02am

    I think people are making this a bigger deal then it actually is. I didn't think Scarlet Johanson being casted in Ghost in a Shell (even though the movie sux) and I don't see how it's necessarily bad in the Witcher. I'll wait and see how it's executed.

  • Ambrosiac7
    -1 points Nov 01,2018, 9:09am

    Isn't this old though? The casting was announced days ago. Why is there backlash now? And there are several black characters? As far as I'm aware there is only one. Is there anyone else? As for Anya Chalotra playing Yennefer. Yes she's half Indian but I don't see why that is a problem when she looks the part. Were she to look like a different character I'd understand but she doesn't. And people complaining about Geralt looking younger, he should be. The series covers Last Wish and Sword of Destiny, the first two books in the series. 20 years before the Witcher 3. In fact, how he looks in Witcher 2 is a very good interpretation of that.

    This is a very mild case of sjw infiltrating media imo. The major casts seem fine and only a minor character seems to have changed race. Would it be better if it weren't? Definitely. Would the show be trash now? No. I'd wait and watch it to find out. I don't want to judge things based on preconceptions. Something which we give the sjw side a lot of flak for doing. I don't like how Netflix handles some stuff but I do generally like some of the things they put out.

  • swordmagic
    -8 points Nov 01,2018, 11:47am

    Wahhh non-white people are scary wahh

  • Zefrem23
    -10 points Nov 01,2018, 10:35am

    Does it really matter if some of the people are different races? Some of the folks here are starting to really act a bit too much like white nationalists for my taste. And I say that as someone who's wholeheartedly supported the GG cause since the beginning.

  • akaorenji
    -8 points Nov 01,2018, 9:49am

    Honestly, who cares?

  • dabigsiebowski
    -7 points Nov 01,2018, 12:12pm

    This entire post is racist. Who cares honestly and as if we wanna discuss the whitewashing we've had in the film industry then we can. You guys need to get a grip seriously and quit trying to battle every little SJW scenario you see because guess what... sometimes they do have a point. I'm white and I couldn't be more hyped for Witcher on Netflix. Stay upset over skin color babies.

    Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson are both the biggest idiots ever who warped your sad little minds. And another thing, This subreddit has become so insecure about every little decision they feel is wrong its cringe worthy. This sub use to call out simple misguided tones across industry's and now it's become a haven for little man babies to stay upset about the world rather than giving constructive criticism like it used to.

  • FourthLife
    -4 points Nov 01,2018, 11:36am

    Is it central to the characters to be white?

  • Perfect600
    -9 points Nov 01,2018, 9:57am

    Guy as long as it's not a main role who cares. I judge it when it's out.

    Edit: judging things when they are completed is stupid I guess

  • Gizortnik
    -2 points Nov 01,2018, 10:16am

    OP, I'm confused and not familiar with the controversy.

    It seems like this woman was saying that it was never her intention to not have """"diverse"""" casting. It seems like she wasn't lying in this post; just rationalizing why the cast should be """"diverse"""".

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COMMENTS

  • Millenia0
    214 points Oct 29,2018, 12:20pm

    I wonder if Trump will touch this Gab shit. He seem to like being a contrarian to the Media.

  • astonwave
    130 points Oct 29,2018, 2:20pm

    "Don't like it, create your own media," they said. We did, guess what?

  • Junkbunkfunk
    359 points Oct 29,2018, 1:56pm

    I'll say it over and over again, "platforms" like PayPal, Facebook, and Twitter all need their safe harbor status revoked. By curating content they've shown that not only are they capable of policing their platform, they're acting as publishers censoring legal content. Enforce the DMCA, revoke safe harbor status, and throw the company heads in prison for "publishing" cp and terrorist activity.

    It's a losing battle trying to convince silicon valley of the merits of free speech. They simply don't care.

  • The_Frag_Man
    114 points Oct 29,2018, 1:46pm

    What is happening to Gab is not acceptable, regardless of them recently banning lolicon.

    You can agree or disagree with their actions, while also firmly rejecting what is happening to them.

  • Xenomoly
    147 points Oct 29,2018, 1:20pm

    I hope they can stay afloat. I really hate when the media bullshit machine decides it wants to take a scalp and goes all in to destroy a place where everyone can talk.

    I mean damn - don't they get it. Get on gab and talk down the Nazi if you want. Find the monsters and reason with them or doxx them or whatever. But censoring everyone because of the actions of one person makes as much sense as taking down Facebook for showing that disabled kid being tortured on Facebook live.

    Of course - that was perfectly acceptable because the victim was a hated white.

  • Sks44
    49 points Oct 29,2018, 2:27pm

    I’m out of the loop but I’ve seen people saying Gab is “far right” and such. I thought it was just free speech twitter?

  • johnchapel
    24 points Oct 29,2018, 2:43pm

    Jesus christ there are people who actually want something literally removed from the internet?

    Like I didnt even know that existed as a real concept for people to be calling for it.

  • EldragonFromSA
    49 points Oct 29,2018, 2:15pm

    John Stewart Mill is spinning in his grave at this point. The usual suspects are rejoicing that another source of "Hate Speech" (Whatever that means) has been silenced, and they do not realize that one day they too will be silenced.

    The left is a pack of wolves disguised as sheep voting on what is for dinner. With each cycle they think they are eating another sheep, never realizing that they are cannibalizing their own.

  • OrphanedPixel
    16 points Oct 29,2018, 4:28pm

    I watched the news about the synagogue shooter recently and they just kept talking about how often he used Gab, and in the back of my head I'm just thinking, 'and this is relevant, why?'.

    Why is that relevant to the story?

  • TinyWightSpider
    22 points Oct 29,2018, 3:06pm

    If it wasn’t for Gab, we wouldn’t know what we know about this scumbag.

    So...... they want the next psycho to have no trail at all? Why?

  • Uzrathixius
    14 points Oct 29,2018, 4:24pm

    I really hate that phrase, "You can't stop an idea".

    You can, it's easy. It just involves an inordinate amount of blood.

    Otherwise, good on gab for keeping the fight going.

  • Meowmixez98
    6 points Oct 29,2018, 4:07pm

    Why doesn't Twitter receive this same kind of treatment?

  • Dionysus24779
    15 points Oct 29,2018, 3:10pm

    I never heard of Gab before all of this, so it's true that the Steisand Effect applies I guess.

  • ElRedditUserName
    40 points Oct 29,2018, 1:02pm

    Jesus wept, just move to an offshore hoster, have a failover plan and STFU. This isn't even rocket science. I heard 4chan and Pirate Bay might have some good ideas on keeping an unpopular website up...

  • missbp2189
    15 points Oct 29,2018, 2:33pm

    You can't stop an idea.

    Wrong. All the old regimes found a way.

    For a modern example see the China vs Hong Kong's democracy movement, or how Venezuela's dictatorship stays in control.

  • blackjackANDplates
    8 points Oct 29,2018, 4:01pm

    It's really not a big deal. All you have to do to have free speech is start your own Social Media site, then create your own credit card company, then create your own payment processing company like PayPal to process your credit card payments. Oh I almost forgot you'll have to launch your own satellite to carry your site, because no web hosting company will let you use theirs. But no one's gonna launch a satellite for evil people so I guess just start your own space agency. That's it, easy peasy.

  • PM_ME_YOUR_PRIORS
    5 points Oct 29,2018, 5:50pm

    It's far past time we get some enterprising lawyers to start suing these folks on tortious interference claims. You can't just bully a company into breaking contracts, and if you do, you're on the hook for any economy damages you caused. Especially when these dumbfucks brag in public about what they've done, and especially when they are committing libel and slander.

  • Akesgeroth
    5 points Oct 29,2018, 6:47pm

    Note how Twitter and Facebook were never shut down following a mass shooting of any kind due to the usage of the perp.

    Like, Alexandre Bissonnette, the asshole responsible for the Quebec mosque shooting, was well known to troll Facebook groups. He was a major Facebook user. And yet, no one blamed Facebook for that horror, now did they? The truth is that Twitter and Facebook are both upper classes approved and they don't want alternatives to exist. They want control, and those platform provide it.

  • Blutarg
    9 points Oct 29,2018, 2:01pm

    What is Gab, anyway? I must be watching too much football.

  • splabida
    8 points Oct 29,2018, 2:54pm

    I've never heard of Gab until now... looks like i'm heading over.

  • Gaiares
    13 points Oct 29,2018, 2:40pm

    Voat. While you still can.

  • mnemosyne-0002
    3 points Oct 29,2018, 3:11pm
  • H_Guderian
    3 points Oct 29,2018, 4:59pm

    Today a show on NPR refered to them as a site built For the Alt-Right, or they said Pro. Not wading back into that mess to find out.

  • SargentSlate
    3 points Oct 29,2018, 7:22pm

    I support freedom of speech. I support Gab.

  • Iswear12
    18 points Oct 29,2018, 12:58pm

    The internet is not reality

    TV is not reality

    but drawings of children are and should be banned :)

    lol

  • lyra833
    33 points Oct 29,2018, 12:21pm

    You have all just made Gab a nationally recognized brand

    Oh, yeah.

    As the home of free speech online.

    No, you loli banning idiot; they turned on the cannons they've been building since 2016 and made you more toxic than a urinal cake in Chernobyl.

  • weltallic
    7 points Oct 29,2018, 3:14pm

    "We are a free speech platform... except free speech that the CEO personally finds icky and immoral. Then it's banned."

    https://i.imgur.com/Zr3kBDa.png

  • posticon
    2 points Oct 29,2018, 3:45pm

    Trump should do something

  • C4Cypher
    2 points Oct 29,2018, 4:55pm
  • Terminal-Psychosis
    2 points Oct 29,2018, 5:13pm

    Looking forward to getting back in there.

    Go GAB go!

  • blarnoff
    2 points Oct 29,2018, 5:49pm
  • Please_Dont_Trigger
    2 points Oct 29,2018, 5:56pm

    Censorship by any other name, still smells the same.

  • ikeaEmotional
    2 points Oct 29,2018, 6:52pm

    How do I join? I checked app store, zilch. Went to website, just this message.

  • grumpieroldman
    2 points Oct 29,2018, 7:48pm

    I wish I wasn't so freaking busy right now ... I'd write a gnutella/bittorrent powered social media platform and give it to them.

    To social media companies: Burn.

  • AprilineSilversworn
    3 points Oct 29,2018, 1:53pm

    Loli Dab on Gab

  • mnemosyne-0001
    2 points Oct 29,2018, 12:09pm

    Archive links for this post:


    I am Mnemosyne reborn. This is the voice of world control. /r/botsrights

  • Tiredofthiscrap18
    1 points Oct 29,2018, 1:51pm

    You can't kill ideas with bullets

       Leo Gold, NSF commander 2050
  • ZippyTheChicken
    1 points Oct 29,2018, 8:30pm

    I hope they sue the shit out of the companies that are clearly conspiring against them...

    it would be very interesting if they got discovery for email between the executives

    I never used gab .. pretty sure you had to verify in some way to join .. which kinda takes away your anonymity .. but I would hear people say they left twitter and joined it specifically because Twitter has banned so many conservatives... I was actually one of the people banned on twitter and the only way I could get back in was to verify a real phone number and delete a tweet where I laughed at a meme someone made about a Kavanaugh Accuser.. I didn't even post the meme i just laughed at it.. I am in the USA and got caught up in one of their REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEmoval floods .. when I petitioned them they said the ban will stand and is permanent.

    They obviously wanted my telephone number to verify who i was... and then i would be on some real fucked up list...

    I am not a politician.. I am not an activist.. I laugh at shit.. sometimes I shitpost when shit gets absurdly insane... but I get drawn up in it.. And what I am suppose to hire a security force?

    Yeah i don't know about Gab but I do know about twitter and facebook.. those people are fricken evil to the core..

  • AyyyGreens
    1 points Oct 29,2018, 8:45pm

    Welp, they sold me. I’m getting an account when they come back. We need companies who have balls in this climate.

  • groovegmr
    1 points Oct 29,2018, 8:52pm

    This may be the most ridiculous statement I've seen in regards to this situation.

    http://archive.is/WfQQ4

  • Dreddthebed
    1 points Oct 29,2018, 3:35pm

    Guys. I knew this dude. I know his family. He is not right emotionally. I really worry for him he has been getting increasingly bad lately.

  • 20wompwomp20
    0 points Oct 29,2018, 3:56pm

    Meh, never really trusted them much, sticking with Minds, their old domain was just a tad suspicious you could say! Foresaw a surrender or takedown pretty early on. Took a lot longer than I expected though! Someone must have been getting something good out of it.

  • Onceagainreborn
    -27 points Oct 29,2018, 1:04pm

    Get fucked gab.

  • totes_his_goats
    -7 points Oct 29,2018, 5:38pm

    Yeah conservatives always complain when the free market turns against them.

  • Archangel1313
    0 points Oct 29,2018, 6:01pm

    Tolerating intolerance, legitimizes intolerance.

  • LyrEcho
    -3 points Oct 29,2018, 5:02pm

    The first and last time I'll ever hear about this company.

COMMENTS

  • Millenia0
    214 points Oct 29,2018, 12:20pm

    I wonder if Trump will touch this Gab shit. He seem to like being a contrarian to the Media.

  • astonwave
    130 points Oct 29,2018, 2:20pm

    "Don't like it, create your own media," they said. We did, guess what?

  • Junkbunkfunk
    359 points Oct 29,2018, 1:56pm

    I'll say it over and over again, "platforms" like PayPal, Facebook, and Twitter all need their safe harbor status revoked. By curating content they've shown that not only are they capable of policing their platform, they're acting as publishers censoring legal content. Enforce the DMCA, revoke safe harbor status, and throw the company heads in prison for "publishing" cp and terrorist activity.

    It's a losing battle trying to convince silicon valley of the merits of free speech. They simply don't care.

  • MuslimsLikeRape
    173 points Oct 29,2018, 3:22pm

    Liberals: BAKE THAT CAKE!
    ...
    Also liberals: iT's A pRiVaTe CoMpAnY, tHeY cAn BaN yOu If ThEy WaNt

  • The_Frag_Man
    114 points Oct 29,2018, 1:46pm

    What is happening to Gab is not acceptable, regardless of them recently banning lolicon.

    You can agree or disagree with their actions, while also firmly rejecting what is happening to them.

  • Xenomoly
    147 points Oct 29,2018, 1:20pm

    I hope they can stay afloat. I really hate when the media bullshit machine decides it wants to take a scalp and goes all in to destroy a place where everyone can talk.

    I mean damn - don't they get it. Get on gab and talk down the Nazi if you want. Find the monsters and reason with them or doxx them or whatever. But censoring everyone because of the actions of one person makes as much sense as taking down Facebook for showing that disabled kid being tortured on Facebook live.

    Of course - that was perfectly acceptable because the victim was a hated white.

  • Sks44
    49 points Oct 29,2018, 2:27pm

    I’m out of the loop but I’ve seen people saying Gab is “far right” and such. I thought it was just free speech twitter?

  • johnchapel
    24 points Oct 29,2018, 2:43pm

    Jesus christ there are people who actually want something literally removed from the internet?

    Like I didnt even know that existed as a real concept for people to be calling for it.

  • EldragonFromSA
    49 points Oct 29,2018, 2:15pm

    John Stewart Mill is spinning in his grave at this point. The usual suspects are rejoicing that another source of "Hate Speech" (Whatever that means) has been silenced, and they do not realize that one day they too will be silenced.

    The left is a pack of wolves disguised as sheep voting on what is for dinner. With each cycle they think they are eating another sheep, never realizing that they are cannibalizing their own.

  • OrphanedPixel
    16 points Oct 29,2018, 4:28pm

    I watched the news about the synagogue shooter recently and they just kept talking about how often he used Gab, and in the back of my head I'm just thinking, 'and this is relevant, why?'.

    Why is that relevant to the story?

  • TinyWightSpider
    22 points Oct 29,2018, 3:06pm

    If it wasn’t for Gab, we wouldn’t know what we know about this scumbag.

    So...... they want the next psycho to have no trail at all? Why?

  • Uzrathixius
    14 points Oct 29,2018, 4:24pm

    I really hate that phrase, "You can't stop an idea".

    You can, it's easy. It just involves an inordinate amount of blood.

    Otherwise, good on gab for keeping the fight going.

  • Meowmixez98
    6 points Oct 29,2018, 4:07pm

    Why doesn't Twitter receive this same kind of treatment?

  • Dionysus24779
    15 points Oct 29,2018, 3:10pm

    I never heard of Gab before all of this, so it's true that the Steisand Effect applies I guess.

  • ElRedditUserName
    40 points Oct 29,2018, 1:02pm

    Jesus wept, just move to an offshore hoster, have a failover plan and STFU. This isn't even rocket science. I heard 4chan and Pirate Bay might have some good ideas on keeping an unpopular website up...

  • missbp2189
    15 points Oct 29,2018, 2:33pm

    You can't stop an idea.

    Wrong. All the old regimes found a way.

    For a modern example see the China vs Hong Kong's democracy movement, or how Venezuela's dictatorship stays in control.

  • blackjackANDplates
    8 points Oct 29,2018, 4:01pm

    It's really not a big deal. All you have to do to have free speech is start your own Social Media site, then create your own credit card company, then create your own payment processing company like PayPal to process your credit card payments. Oh I almost forgot you'll have to launch your own satellite to carry your site, because no web hosting company will let you use theirs. But no one's gonna launch a satellite for evil people so I guess just start your own space agency. That's it, easy peasy.

  • PM_ME_YOUR_PRIORS
    5 points Oct 29,2018, 5:50pm

    It's far past time we get some enterprising lawyers to start suing these folks on tortious interference claims. You can't just bully a company into breaking contracts, and if you do, you're on the hook for any economy damages you caused. Especially when these dumbfucks brag in public about what they've done, and especially when they are committing libel and slander.

  • Akesgeroth
    5 points Oct 29,2018, 6:47pm

    Note how Twitter and Facebook were never shut down following a mass shooting of any kind due to the usage of the perp.

    Like, Alexandre Bissonnette, the asshole responsible for the Quebec mosque shooting, was well known to troll Facebook groups. He was a major Facebook user. And yet, no one blamed Facebook for that horror, now did they? The truth is that Twitter and Facebook are both upper classes approved and they don't want alternatives to exist. They want control, and those platform provide it.

  • Blutarg
    9 points Oct 29,2018, 2:01pm

    What is Gab, anyway? I must be watching too much football.

  • splabida
    8 points Oct 29,2018, 2:54pm

    I've never heard of Gab until now... looks like i'm heading over.

  • Gaiares
    13 points Oct 29,2018, 2:40pm

    Voat. While you still can.

  • mnemosyne-0002
    3 points Oct 29,2018, 3:11pm
  • H_Guderian
    3 points Oct 29,2018, 4:59pm

    Today a show on NPR refered to them as a site built For the Alt-Right, or they said Pro. Not wading back into that mess to find out.

  • SargentSlate
    3 points Oct 29,2018, 7:22pm

    I support freedom of speech. I support Gab.

  • Iswear12
    18 points Oct 29,2018, 12:58pm

    The internet is not reality

    TV is not reality

    but drawings of children are and should be banned :)

    lol

  • lyra833
    33 points Oct 29,2018, 12:21pm

    You have all just made Gab a nationally recognized brand

    Oh, yeah.

    As the home of free speech online.

    No, you loli banning idiot; they turned on the cannons they've been building since 2016 and made you more toxic than a urinal cake in Chernobyl.

  • weltallic
    7 points Oct 29,2018, 3:14pm

    "We are a free speech platform... except free speech that the CEO personally finds icky and immoral. Then it's banned."

    https://i.imgur.com/Zr3kBDa.png

  • posticon
    2 points Oct 29,2018, 3:45pm

    Trump should do something

  • C4Cypher
    2 points Oct 29,2018, 4:55pm
  • Terminal-Psychosis
    2 points Oct 29,2018, 5:13pm

    Looking forward to getting back in there.

    Go GAB go!

  • blarnoff
    2 points Oct 29,2018, 5:49pm
  • Please_Dont_Trigger
    2 points Oct 29,2018, 5:56pm

    Censorship by any other name, still smells the same.

  • ikeaEmotional
    2 points Oct 29,2018, 6:52pm

    How do I join? I checked app store, zilch. Went to website, just this message.

  • grumpieroldman
    2 points Oct 29,2018, 7:48pm

    I wish I wasn't so freaking busy right now ... I'd write a gnutella/bittorrent powered social media platform and give it to them.

    To social media companies: Burn.

  • AprilineSilversworn
    3 points Oct 29,2018, 1:53pm

    Loli Dab on Gab

  • mnemosyne-0001
    2 points Oct 29,2018, 12:09pm

    Archive links for this post:


    I am Mnemosyne reborn. This is the voice of world control. /r/botsrights

  • Tiredofthiscrap18
    1 points Oct 29,2018, 1:51pm

    You can't kill ideas with bullets

       Leo Gold, NSF commander 2050
  • ZippyTheChicken
    1 points Oct 29,2018, 8:30pm

    I hope they sue the shit out of the companies that are clearly conspiring against them...

    it would be very interesting if they got discovery for email between the executives

    I never used gab .. pretty sure you had to verify in some way to join .. which kinda takes away your anonymity .. but I would hear people say they left twitter and joined it specifically because Twitter has banned so many conservatives... I was actually one of the people banned on twitter and the only way I could get back in was to verify a real phone number and delete a tweet where I laughed at a meme someone made about a Kavanaugh Accuser.. I didn't even post the meme i just laughed at it.. I am in the USA and got caught up in one of their REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEmoval floods .. when I petitioned them they said the ban will stand and is permanent.

    They obviously wanted my telephone number to verify who i was... and then i would be on some real fucked up list...

    I am not a politician.. I am not an activist.. I laugh at shit.. sometimes I shitpost when shit gets absurdly insane... but I get drawn up in it.. And what I am suppose to hire a security force?

    Yeah i don't know about Gab but I do know about twitter and facebook.. those people are fricken evil to the core..

  • AyyyGreens
    1 points Oct 29,2018, 8:45pm

    Welp, they sold me. I’m getting an account when they come back. We need companies who have balls in this climate.

  • groovegmr
    1 points Oct 29,2018, 8:52pm

    This may be the most ridiculous statement I've seen in regards to this situation.

    http://archive.is/WfQQ4

  • Dreddthebed
    1 points Oct 29,2018, 3:35pm

    Guys. I knew this dude. I know his family. He is not right emotionally. I really worry for him he has been getting increasingly bad lately.

  • 20wompwomp20
    0 points Oct 29,2018, 3:56pm

    Meh, never really trusted them much, sticking with Minds, their old domain was just a tad suspicious you could say! Foresaw a surrender or takedown pretty early on. Took a lot longer than I expected though! Someone must have been getting something good out of it.

  • Onceagainreborn
    -27 points Oct 29,2018, 1:04pm

    Get fucked gab.

  • totes_his_goats
    -7 points Oct 29,2018, 5:38pm

    Yeah conservatives always complain when the free market turns against them.

  • Archangel1313
    0 points Oct 29,2018, 6:01pm

    Tolerating intolerance, legitimizes intolerance.

  • LyrEcho
    -3 points Oct 29,2018, 5:02pm

    The first and last time I'll ever hear about this company.

● ● ●

This tweet may include potentially sensitive content.

Kotaku In Action: The almost-official GamerGate subreddit!

COMMENTS

  • ThatDamnedImp
    245 points Oct 03,2018, 10:27am

    It's hilarious that someone with Swanson's career is so much less bitter than someone with Milano's.

  • nostalgicBadger
    225 points Oct 03,2018, 11:18am

    I saw an image on there today with the "potentially sensitive content" warning, and when I revealed it, it was just a photo of Trump captioned "good morning fellow patriots". How is Twitter still in business?

  • lucben999
    127 points Oct 03,2018, 9:49am

    Reading the "sensitive media" policy on twitter, it's about images, videos, etc.

    I noticed in that image that she's retweeting what appears to be a video, maybe that video is what's tagged as "sensitive media".

  • totallya_russianbot
    30 points Oct 03,2018, 11:42am

    Feminists are actually against the ERA, because it would remove their special privileges, such as VOWA and no draft.

  • Kysis
    57 points Oct 03,2018, 11:28am

    Shoot women have more reproductive rights than men by far. I can't demand my wife get an abortion and I can't wipe my hands clean and decide not to support them financially if they want to take me to court. We also can basically choose 2 things, abstinence and condoms to guarantee no baby. And even condoms aren't 100% effective.

  • DaisukeAramecha
    19 points Oct 03,2018, 11:00am

    This is likely an automated system based on being reported X times. I've seen several anti-Trump accounts (the ones that post to everything he tweets) get flagged like this and have all their stuff hidden in the same way. After a week or so it seems to go away. And they're not posting anything against guidelines (that I've seen, anyway).

  • Wigglepicks
    14 points Oct 03,2018, 11:18am

    I guess Twitter doesn't want to empower women.

  • NoPantsBaby
    9 points Oct 03,2018, 2:56pm

    The victim train is based on the fact that after 40 they lose all that power.

  • johnchapel
    8 points Oct 03,2018, 1:22pm

    Jesus christ when the most minute of opinions has "sensitive content", then EVERYTHING has sensitive content. And if everything has sensitive content, nothing does.

    Can't believe they've modified the PARENTAL ADVISORY EXPLICIT LYRICS label and applied it to literal life.

  • sodiummuffin
    6 points Oct 03,2018, 10:14am

    That just means the tweet involves pictures/video and the account is tagged as sometimes tweeting "sensitive" images.

  • Combustibles
    7 points Oct 03,2018, 12:07pm

    Beware, she's a woman who utilizes WRONGTHINK !!!! Better block her!

  • kylethoreau
    7 points Oct 03,2018, 1:11pm

    We’re still not going to forget about embrace of the vampire, Milano. No matter how insufferable you insist on being.

  • MemeAttestor
    6 points Oct 03,2018, 2:37pm

    You can't take responsibility for your own life if you're costantly a victim!

  • TheImpossible1
    7 points Oct 03,2018, 11:32am

    I disagree with that hashtag.

    It should be WomenHaveMoreThanEveryoneElse

  • blobbybag
    3 points Oct 03,2018, 11:20am

    Basically, tax dodging washup Milano can't be disagreed with.

  • LolDoofus
    3 points Oct 03,2018, 11:53am

    They probably have a filter for the word 'sex'

  • MaximumFace
    3 points Oct 03,2018, 12:41pm

    Goes to settings

    -Enable Wrongthink - Warning this could result in you confessing that you are an Alt-right Nazi after substantial coercion.

  • znaXTdWhGV
    3 points Oct 03,2018, 4:06pm

    is anything on "nowthis" ever true?

  • drunkencosmonaut
    2 points Oct 03,2018, 12:29pm

    Earned Run Average?

  • Gizortnik
    2 points Oct 03,2018, 12:41pm

    They did the same thing with the Louis Farrakhan picture.

  • smith0211
    2 points Oct 03,2018, 1:17pm

    If you have a Twitter account, can you disable this filter?

  • dagenought
    2 points Oct 03,2018, 1:19pm

    Someone want to eli5 ERA ??

  • BrianPillmansGun
    2 points Oct 03,2018, 6:41pm

    Kristy Swanson? The original Buffy?

  • jlenoconel
    2 points Oct 03,2018, 7:12pm

    Alyssa Milano is really pissing me off. I used to be a huge fan of hers, but she's now become more unbearable than Anita Sarkeesian.

  • HiGloss
    2 points Oct 03,2018, 6:00pm

    I’ve been saying this since the 80’s!! The fact that women TODAY are hitching about so much boggles my mind. We have not gone back in time people! It’s good now but you still have to act, nobody is going to hand you anything.

    Unless you live in CA and someone needs a board member.

  • mnemosyne-0001
    1 points Oct 03,2018, 9:25am

    Archive links for this post:


    I am Mnemosyne reborn. 640K ought be enough for anybody. /r/botsrights

  • mnemosyne-0002
    1 points Oct 03,2018, 10:18am

    Archives for the links in comments:


    I am Mnemosyne 2.1, It is too bad someone less notorious for their complacent attitude towards themselves had not written that link instead. /r/botsrights Contribute message me suggestions at any time Opt out of tracking by messaging me "Opt Out" at any time

  • Exzodium
    1 points Oct 03,2018, 11:20am

    Meh.

  • SargentSlate
    1 points Oct 03,2018, 6:12pm

    Twitter your kingdom must come down.

  • NotLuceBree
    1 points Oct 03,2018, 6:36pm

    This tweet may include potentially narcissistic content

  • GunzGoPew
    1 points Oct 03,2018, 7:08pm

    Imagine being dumb enough to think women run the world.

  • scalia4114
    1 points Oct 03,2018, 8:04pm

    I’ve always liked her. No wonder her career has sort of gone off the rails—she took the red pill.

  • kukuruyo
    1 points Oct 03,2018, 8:51pm

    I get people all the time telling me that my tweets are "sensitive content" XD

    Also many times i have to click to see "sensitive content" even when i have it configured so i always see it.

  • penisofablackman
    1 points Oct 03,2018, 2:33pm

    Truth can trigger

COMMENTS

  • ThatDamnedImp
    245 points Oct 03,2018, 10:27am

    It's hilarious that someone with Swanson's career is so much less bitter than someone with Milano's.

  • nostalgicBadger
    225 points Oct 03,2018, 11:18am

    I saw an image on there today with the "potentially sensitive content" warning, and when I revealed it, it was just a photo of Trump captioned "good morning fellow patriots". How is Twitter still in business?

  • lucben999
    127 points Oct 03,2018, 9:49am

    Reading the "sensitive media" policy on twitter, it's about images, videos, etc.

    I noticed in that image that she's retweeting what appears to be a video, maybe that video is what's tagged as "sensitive media".

  • RPN68
    36 points Oct 03,2018, 10:12am

    ERA? Now there's some real lulz. I'm surprised anyone in Hollyweird can spell it.

  • totallya_russianbot
    30 points Oct 03,2018, 11:42am

    Feminists are actually against the ERA, because it would remove their special privileges, such as VOWA and no draft.

  • Kysis
    57 points Oct 03,2018, 11:28am

    Shoot women have more reproductive rights than men by far. I can't demand my wife get an abortion and I can't wipe my hands clean and decide not to support them financially if they want to take me to court. We also can basically choose 2 things, abstinence and condoms to guarantee no baby. And even condoms aren't 100% effective.

  • DaisukeAramecha
    19 points Oct 03,2018, 11:00am

    This is likely an automated system based on being reported X times. I've seen several anti-Trump accounts (the ones that post to everything he tweets) get flagged like this and have all their stuff hidden in the same way. After a week or so it seems to go away. And they're not posting anything against guidelines (that I've seen, anyway).

  • Wigglepicks
    14 points Oct 03,2018, 11:18am

    I guess Twitter doesn't want to empower women.

  • NoPantsBaby
    9 points Oct 03,2018, 2:56pm

    The victim train is based on the fact that after 40 they lose all that power.

  • johnchapel
    8 points Oct 03,2018, 1:22pm

    Jesus christ when the most minute of opinions has "sensitive content", then EVERYTHING has sensitive content. And if everything has sensitive content, nothing does.

    Can't believe they've modified the PARENTAL ADVISORY EXPLICIT LYRICS label and applied it to literal life.

  • sodiummuffin
    6 points Oct 03,2018, 10:14am

    That just means the tweet involves pictures/video and the account is tagged as sometimes tweeting "sensitive" images.

  • Combustibles
    7 points Oct 03,2018, 12:07pm

    Beware, she's a woman who utilizes WRONGTHINK !!!! Better block her!

  • kylethoreau
    7 points Oct 03,2018, 1:11pm

    We’re still not going to forget about embrace of the vampire, Milano. No matter how insufferable you insist on being.

  • MemeAttestor
    6 points Oct 03,2018, 2:37pm

    You can't take responsibility for your own life if you're costantly a victim!

  • TheImpossible1
    7 points Oct 03,2018, 11:32am

    I disagree with that hashtag.

    It should be WomenHaveMoreThanEveryoneElse

  • blobbybag
    3 points Oct 03,2018, 11:20am

    Basically, tax dodging washup Milano can't be disagreed with.

  • LolDoofus
    3 points Oct 03,2018, 11:53am

    They probably have a filter for the word 'sex'

  • MaximumFace
    3 points Oct 03,2018, 12:41pm

    Goes to settings

    -Enable Wrongthink - Warning this could result in you confessing that you are an Alt-right Nazi after substantial coercion.

  • znaXTdWhGV
    3 points Oct 03,2018, 4:06pm

    is anything on "nowthis" ever true?

  • drunkencosmonaut
    2 points Oct 03,2018, 12:29pm

    Earned Run Average?

  • Gizortnik
    2 points Oct 03,2018, 12:41pm

    They did the same thing with the Louis Farrakhan picture.

  • smith0211
    2 points Oct 03,2018, 1:17pm

    If you have a Twitter account, can you disable this filter?

  • dagenought
    2 points Oct 03,2018, 1:19pm

    Someone want to eli5 ERA ??

  • BrianPillmansGun
    2 points Oct 03,2018, 6:41pm

    Kristy Swanson? The original Buffy?

  • jlenoconel
    2 points Oct 03,2018, 7:12pm

    Alyssa Milano is really pissing me off. I used to be a huge fan of hers, but she's now become more unbearable than Anita Sarkeesian.

  • HiGloss
    2 points Oct 03,2018, 6:00pm

    I’ve been saying this since the 80’s!! The fact that women TODAY are hitching about so much boggles my mind. We have not gone back in time people! It’s good now but you still have to act, nobody is going to hand you anything.

    Unless you live in CA and someone needs a board member.

  • mnemosyne-0001
    1 points Oct 03,2018, 9:25am

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    1 points Oct 03,2018, 10:18am

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  • Exzodium
    1 points Oct 03,2018, 11:20am

    Meh.

  • SargentSlate
    1 points Oct 03,2018, 6:12pm

    Twitter your kingdom must come down.

  • NotLuceBree
    1 points Oct 03,2018, 6:36pm

    This tweet may include potentially narcissistic content

  • GunzGoPew
    1 points Oct 03,2018, 7:08pm

    Imagine being dumb enough to think women run the world.

  • scalia4114
    1 points Oct 03,2018, 8:04pm

    I’ve always liked her. No wonder her career has sort of gone off the rails—she took the red pill.

  • kukuruyo
    1 points Oct 03,2018, 8:51pm

    I get people all the time telling me that my tweets are "sensitive content" XD

    Also many times i have to click to see "sensitive content" even when i have it configured so i always see it.

  • penisofablackman
    1 points Oct 03,2018, 2:33pm

    Truth can trigger

● ● ●

[Gamedropping/Twitter] Graham Linehan accuses Kanye West of being a gamergater

Kotaku In Action: The almost-official GamerGate subreddit!

COMMENTS

  • CartoonEricRoberts
    149 points Sep 30,2018, 4:04pm

    If he admits that gamergaters think it's about ethics in gaming journalism- then wouldn't it be about ethics in gaming journalism? Very odd. It's as if he realizes the narrative is false but doesn't care or he thinks that the narrative actually defines reality. There's a screw loose somewhere.

  • CrankyDClown
    133 points Sep 30,2018, 3:34pm

    Good old Graham. Fuck something up, quadruple down.

  • telios87
    89 points Sep 30,2018, 3:46pm

    I'm sure Ye will spend about 1.6 seconds wondering what a fat British dude thinks about him.

  • ironwolf56
    55 points Sep 30,2018, 4:22pm

    You know it's funny. They mock the far right for being prone to conspiracies how all these organizations are linked and funded by like Soros etc, but then they go on about how everything from actual Neo-Nazis to Gamergate, the Trump campaign etc are all part of some big cabal funded by shady people like the Koch brothers. Horseshoe Theory in action I guess.

  • Bottleroach
    30 points Sep 30,2018, 4:09pm

    The transphobe hasn't been thoroughly excommunicated yet?

  • J_Von_Random
    30 points Sep 30,2018, 4:40pm

    Welcome to the pit Kayne, pull up a chair.

  • PM_Pics_Of_Dead_Kids
    14 points Sep 30,2018, 5:55pm

    Isn't that the guy called out for lying by Dankula so often that he eventually just blocked Dankula on Twitter?

  • UnbowedUncucked
    26 points Sep 30,2018, 3:42pm

    Archive of the Tweet

    Most of us here will be blocked by him.

  • McDiezel
    23 points Sep 30,2018, 4:31pm

    Pretty sure ye doesn’t know what gamer gate is

  • Enerdust15
    10 points Sep 30,2018, 6:14pm

    Oh shit. We got Kanye now? Tits. I'm down.

  • VerGreeneyes
    18 points Sep 30,2018, 4:19pm

    I think what he's trying to do is draw a comparison between what Kanye West said about MAGA/Trump and what someone who was "fooled" into thinking that GamerGate was really about ethics in games journalism might say. Of course, considering that GamerGate was actually about ethics in games journalism (albeit ethics in a broader sense for most outraged gamers), his statement falls flat.

  • bloodguard
    15 points Sep 30,2018, 5:39pm

    "gamergater"

    He's like a really confused old guy that thinks he has a handle on a, to his mind, deadly bit of slang.

    It's like when a friend's Dad discovered the word "powned" (he actually pronounced it "pee-owned") and started dropping it into every conversation with hilarious results.

  • middlekelly
    10 points Sep 30,2018, 5:58pm

    So Graham has moved on to harassing gay fish.

    Where will his reign of terror end?

  • ceyen1
    11 points Sep 30,2018, 5:05pm

    You could cut a loose fart in this guy's direction on accident and he would scream on Twitter about GamerGate.

  • JymSorgee
    5 points Sep 30,2018, 6:08pm

    Gubba gabba gubba gabba

    One of us.

    One of us.

  • guma1
    10 points Sep 30,2018, 4:58pm

    Lol, that little pussy has blocked me on Twatter. I have less than 100 tweets and none directed at him, how TF did I end up on a block bot 🤣

  • GirlbeardJ
    9 points Sep 30,2018, 5:03pm

    Gamergate gets more diverse by the day.

  • johnchapel
    3 points Sep 30,2018, 5:36pm

    Every gamergater thought it was just about ethics in journalism.

    Whats with these pinko fuckbags?

  • BlondAnorexicSkank
    8 points Sep 30,2018, 4:41pm

    Does anyone know why Kanye is against the 13th amendment? I'm baffled.

  • H_Guderian
    3 points Sep 30,2018, 5:29pm

    Well now that the accusation has been made he can't escape it. Welcome Aboard.

  • Knowbody42
    3 points Sep 30,2018, 7:06pm

    Let's hope he is a gamergater.

  • cochisedaavenger
    2 points Sep 30,2018, 7:54pm

    Kanye West is GamerGate now?! And here I was told it was just a club for strait white dudes. /s

  • PixelBlock
    10 points Sep 30,2018, 5:03pm

    Here’s a middle ground: Nobody should be listening to Linehan or Ye for serious political advice.

  • mnemosyne-0001
    3 points Sep 30,2018, 3:14pm

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  • SsaEborp
    2 points Sep 30,2018, 5:14pm

    Please continue attributing all that POWER to us.

  • Cosmic_Mind89
    2 points Sep 30,2018, 6:01pm

    If we have Kanye, that means we don't exclude minorities. Even though we've had minorities since day one. Hell I'm a Class SSS Leader of Gamergate

  • blobbybag
    2 points Sep 30,2018, 6:42pm

    Does Linehan really think that "goobergrabs" is going to get him off the hook for what I think is his third strike on the transgender issue?

    I mean, it's four fucking years later, and he's STILL treating how he acted during the whole thing as something to be proud of.

  • Unplussed
    2 points Sep 30,2018, 7:11pm

    I mean, he already got tossed into the pit after being friendly with The Don, and "going off the plantation" by speaking about the "mental slavery" his community has sold themselves into politically and socially.

  • morzinbo
    2 points Sep 30,2018, 7:56pm

    This is why I will never ever have any sympathy for this trash.

  • fourthwallcrisis
    2 points Sep 30,2018, 5:22pm

    Jesus. He needs some kind people to take him away and look after him, straight jacket optional.

  • Lytherion
    1 points Sep 30,2018, 8:19pm

    It would definitely be great if he is one.

  • C4Cypher
    1 points Sep 30,2018, 8:43pm

    Oh my fucking god. Pardon me while I curl up in a corner in order to laugh hysterically.

  • LexGrom
    1 points Sep 30,2018, 8:48pm

    Everyone who is not a SJW will be pushed together. From rappers to bloggers to gamers to thinkers to coders to carpenters and janitors. Everyone

  • mnemosyne-0002
    1 points Sep 30,2018, 4:36pm

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  • nobuyuki
    1 points Sep 30,2018, 4:51pm

    LMAO wouldn't that be something funny. This guy's pretty good at making me laugh sometimes

  • BlondAnorexicSkank
    0 points Sep 30,2018, 4:41pm

    Does anyone know why Kanye is against the 13th amendment? I'm baffled.

  • cloudn0things
    -21 points Sep 30,2018, 5:30pm

    Diversity in politics is okay, actively supporting someone as corrupt as the current Republican party isn't.

COMMENTS

  • CartoonEricRoberts
    149 points Sep 30,2018, 4:04pm

    If he admits that gamergaters think it's about ethics in gaming journalism- then wouldn't it be about ethics in gaming journalism? Very odd. It's as if he realizes the narrative is false but doesn't care or he thinks that the narrative actually defines reality. There's a screw loose somewhere.

  • CrankyDClown
    133 points Sep 30,2018, 3:34pm

    Good old Graham. Fuck something up, quadruple down.

  • telios87
    89 points Sep 30,2018, 3:46pm

    I'm sure Ye will spend about 1.6 seconds wondering what a fat British dude thinks about him.

  • Neo_Techni
    30 points Sep 30,2018, 5:42pm

    Yes, throw a huge celebrity in the pit with us as you're attacked for being transphobic. That'll work out great, for us.

  • ironwolf56
    55 points Sep 30,2018, 4:22pm

    You know it's funny. They mock the far right for being prone to conspiracies how all these organizations are linked and funded by like Soros etc, but then they go on about how everything from actual Neo-Nazis to Gamergate, the Trump campaign etc are all part of some big cabal funded by shady people like the Koch brothers. Horseshoe Theory in action I guess.

  • Bottleroach
    30 points Sep 30,2018, 4:09pm

    The transphobe hasn't been thoroughly excommunicated yet?

  • J_Von_Random
    30 points Sep 30,2018, 4:40pm

    Welcome to the pit Kayne, pull up a chair.

  • PM_Pics_Of_Dead_Kids
    14 points Sep 30,2018, 5:55pm

    Isn't that the guy called out for lying by Dankula so often that he eventually just blocked Dankula on Twitter?

  • UnbowedUncucked
    26 points Sep 30,2018, 3:42pm

    Archive of the Tweet

    Most of us here will be blocked by him.

  • McDiezel
    23 points Sep 30,2018, 4:31pm

    Pretty sure ye doesn’t know what gamer gate is

  • Enerdust15
    10 points Sep 30,2018, 6:14pm

    Oh shit. We got Kanye now? Tits. I'm down.

  • VerGreeneyes
    18 points Sep 30,2018, 4:19pm

    I think what he's trying to do is draw a comparison between what Kanye West said about MAGA/Trump and what someone who was "fooled" into thinking that GamerGate was really about ethics in games journalism might say. Of course, considering that GamerGate was actually about ethics in games journalism (albeit ethics in a broader sense for most outraged gamers), his statement falls flat.

  • bloodguard
    15 points Sep 30,2018, 5:39pm

    "gamergater"

    He's like a really confused old guy that thinks he has a handle on a, to his mind, deadly bit of slang.

    It's like when a friend's Dad discovered the word "powned" (he actually pronounced it "pee-owned") and started dropping it into every conversation with hilarious results.

  • middlekelly
    10 points Sep 30,2018, 5:58pm

    So Graham has moved on to harassing gay fish.

    Where will his reign of terror end?

  • ceyen1
    11 points Sep 30,2018, 5:05pm

    You could cut a loose fart in this guy's direction on accident and he would scream on Twitter about GamerGate.

  • JymSorgee
    5 points Sep 30,2018, 6:08pm

    Gubba gabba gubba gabba

    One of us.

    One of us.

  • guma1
    10 points Sep 30,2018, 4:58pm

    Lol, that little pussy has blocked me on Twatter. I have less than 100 tweets and none directed at him, how TF did I end up on a block bot 🤣

  • GirlbeardJ
    9 points Sep 30,2018, 5:03pm

    Gamergate gets more diverse by the day.

  • johnchapel
    3 points Sep 30,2018, 5:36pm

    Every gamergater thought it was just about ethics in journalism.

    Whats with these pinko fuckbags?

  • BlondAnorexicSkank
    8 points Sep 30,2018, 4:41pm

    Does anyone know why Kanye is against the 13th amendment? I'm baffled.

  • H_Guderian
    3 points Sep 30,2018, 5:29pm

    Well now that the accusation has been made he can't escape it. Welcome Aboard.

  • Knowbody42
    3 points Sep 30,2018, 7:06pm

    Let's hope he is a gamergater.

  • cochisedaavenger
    2 points Sep 30,2018, 7:54pm

    Kanye West is GamerGate now?! And here I was told it was just a club for strait white dudes. /s

  • PixelBlock
    10 points Sep 30,2018, 5:03pm

    Here’s a middle ground: Nobody should be listening to Linehan or Ye for serious political advice.

  • mnemosyne-0001
    3 points Sep 30,2018, 3:14pm

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  • SsaEborp
    2 points Sep 30,2018, 5:14pm

    Please continue attributing all that POWER to us.

  • Cosmic_Mind89
    2 points Sep 30,2018, 6:01pm

    If we have Kanye, that means we don't exclude minorities. Even though we've had minorities since day one. Hell I'm a Class SSS Leader of Gamergate

  • blobbybag
    2 points Sep 30,2018, 6:42pm

    Does Linehan really think that "goobergrabs" is going to get him off the hook for what I think is his third strike on the transgender issue?

    I mean, it's four fucking years later, and he's STILL treating how he acted during the whole thing as something to be proud of.

  • Unplussed
    2 points Sep 30,2018, 7:11pm

    I mean, he already got tossed into the pit after being friendly with The Don, and "going off the plantation" by speaking about the "mental slavery" his community has sold themselves into politically and socially.

  • morzinbo
    2 points Sep 30,2018, 7:56pm

    This is why I will never ever have any sympathy for this trash.

  • fourthwallcrisis
    2 points Sep 30,2018, 5:22pm

    Jesus. He needs some kind people to take him away and look after him, straight jacket optional.

  • Lytherion
    1 points Sep 30,2018, 8:19pm

    It would definitely be great if he is one.

  • C4Cypher
    1 points Sep 30,2018, 8:43pm

    Oh my fucking god. Pardon me while I curl up in a corner in order to laugh hysterically.

  • LexGrom
    1 points Sep 30,2018, 8:48pm

    Everyone who is not a SJW will be pushed together. From rappers to bloggers to gamers to thinkers to coders to carpenters and janitors. Everyone

  • mnemosyne-0002
    1 points Sep 30,2018, 4:36pm

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  • nobuyuki
    1 points Sep 30,2018, 4:51pm

    LMAO wouldn't that be something funny. This guy's pretty good at making me laugh sometimes

  • BlondAnorexicSkank
    0 points Sep 30,2018, 4:41pm

    Does anyone know why Kanye is against the 13th amendment? I'm baffled.

  • cloudn0things
    -21 points Sep 30,2018, 5:30pm

    Diversity in politics is okay, actively supporting someone as corrupt as the current Republican party isn't.

● ● ●

[Gaming] Take note: it will NEVER be enough

Kotaku In Action: The almost-official GamerGate subreddit!

COMMENTS

  • JensenAskedForIt
    51 points Sep 28,2018, 7:28pm

    Even if you are completely fucking nuts and think nonbinary is a thing, how exactly would it fit into an AssCreed game? Those games put you back in history. Surely they aren't quite deluded enough yet to believe history has always been filled with nonbinary otherkin just being part of daily life? I'd have thought they'll need another decade or two of rewriting everything before they get legitimately confused about that. Apparently not.

  • AgnosticTemplar
    26 points Sep 28,2018, 7:42pm

    Saints Row 2 does this, except for the "NPC's treat you accordingly" part. They all just call you "boss" regardless of what your character looks like. Because I'm sure devs would love to devote 50% of their budget and 90% of the disk space so every spoken line of dialog has unique readings for all 9,000+ gender possibilities. Though, it would be funny if a game had every pronoun dubbed over by a text to speech program based on what pronouns the player imputed.

  • johnyann
    13 points Sep 28,2018, 7:53pm

    I don’t want to play as a sexless character. It makes the games boring. They have no soul.

    I’ll play as a female character. That could potentially be amazing and something really fresh, assuming it isn’t some masculinized chick who “kicks ass.”

    Make her smart and mentally and emotionally strong instead of some physical brute that overpowers professional soldiers at will (something I’ve though was dumb about ac games to date as well). Being vulnerable isn’t being weak. It’s overcoming limitations and vulnerability that makes characters strong.

  • Millenia0
    1 points Sep 28,2018, 8:07pm

    I don't get it. What traits does a non-binary have?

  • Ghost5410
    1 points Sep 28,2018, 8:27pm

    Reminder that GirlGamers are mostly men and trans people like this.

  • ArchbishopBetelgeuse
    1 points Sep 28,2018, 8:04pm

    I don't care about having a gender option, I prefer it honestly. But why pander to a group that makes up <1% of the worlds population?

    They have a serious entitlement problem.

  • centrum5555
    1 points Sep 28,2018, 8:08pm

    i think genderbending is ubisofts idea of 'fresh idea in a stale gamefranchise'

  • mnemosyne-0001
    3 points Sep 28,2018, 7:11pm

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  • znaXTdWhGV
    1 points Sep 28,2018, 8:42pm

    bring back the cross

  • Tehtwo
    1 points Sep 28,2018, 8:45pm

    the non binary reality we live in.

    Good god.

  • Zenred
    1 points Sep 28,2018, 8:53pm

    Give an inch, take a mile.

  • MikiSayaka33
    4 points Sep 28,2018, 7:23pm

    Ya mean like how AC: Odyssey does it? I'll say "NO!"

  • OceanGaming
    2 points Sep 28,2018, 7:29pm

    GET

  • throwawaycuzmeh
    1 points Sep 28,2018, 8:25pm

    This is marxism. These people want me to help shoulder the development costs of 70+ gender options for all protagonists despite the facts that 97% of people identify as either male or female and the vast majority of core game players are simply male.

  • LaxSagacity
    1 points Sep 28,2018, 8:42pm

    A gender slider? One you can adjust at any time based on how you feel? Seriously???

    I honestly don't get this thing on a character having to be you in a game? How far are we off from accusations of white washing or cultural appropriation if a white person plays a black character in a game?

    I'm fine if they do a gender option and make some changes to the skills and fighting. So you could play through both and find which one matches your play style. That's be really cool. Also if there were some changes to characters and the story to reflect that. Like in AC:O when you visit your girlfriend/wife or whatever in the story. If you're a chick, you visit your husband, boyfriend etc.

    The problem is, you then go down a rabbit hole. People will complain their character is bi, or want the sexual orientation of their character to match how they feel at any given moment. This is the problem, there's never any limits.

  • M37h3w3
    1 points Sep 28,2018, 8:48pm

    Yeah Ubisoft, how long until you spend all that time and effort retooling the dialogue and text for 5% of the total population; of which, I'm willing to bet, only another single digit percent actually plays games at all, much less your games

COMMENTS

  • JensenAskedForIt
    51 points Sep 28,2018, 7:28pm

    Even if you are completely fucking nuts and think nonbinary is a thing, how exactly would it fit into an AssCreed game? Those games put you back in history. Surely they aren't quite deluded enough yet to believe history has always been filled with nonbinary otherkin just being part of daily life? I'd have thought they'll need another decade or two of rewriting everything before they get legitimately confused about that. Apparently not.

  • AgnosticTemplar
    26 points Sep 28,2018, 7:42pm

    Saints Row 2 does this, except for the "NPC's treat you accordingly" part. They all just call you "boss" regardless of what your character looks like. Because I'm sure devs would love to devote 50% of their budget and 90% of the disk space so every spoken line of dialog has unique readings for all 9,000+ gender possibilities. Though, it would be funny if a game had every pronoun dubbed over by a text to speech program based on what pronouns the player imputed.

  • johnyann
    13 points Sep 28,2018, 7:53pm

    I don’t want to play as a sexless character. It makes the games boring. They have no soul.

    I’ll play as a female character. That could potentially be amazing and something really fresh, assuming it isn’t some masculinized chick who “kicks ass.”

    Make her smart and mentally and emotionally strong instead of some physical brute that overpowers professional soldiers at will (something I’ve though was dumb about ac games to date as well). Being vulnerable isn’t being weak. It’s overcoming limitations and vulnerability that makes characters strong.

  • NthmetalDarkseid
    1 points Sep 28,2018, 8:21pm

    How long until furries join the LGBTIQ collective, and turn it into the LGBTIQF, and also want representation?

  • Millenia0
    1 points Sep 28,2018, 8:07pm

    I don't get it. What traits does a non-binary have?

  • Ghost5410
    1 points Sep 28,2018, 8:27pm

    Reminder that GirlGamers are mostly men and trans people like this.

  • ArchbishopBetelgeuse
    1 points Sep 28,2018, 8:04pm

    I don't care about having a gender option, I prefer it honestly. But why pander to a group that makes up <1% of the worlds population?

    They have a serious entitlement problem.

  • centrum5555
    1 points Sep 28,2018, 8:08pm

    i think genderbending is ubisofts idea of 'fresh idea in a stale gamefranchise'

  • mnemosyne-0001
    3 points Sep 28,2018, 7:11pm

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  • znaXTdWhGV
    1 points Sep 28,2018, 8:42pm

    bring back the cross

  • Tehtwo
    1 points Sep 28,2018, 8:45pm

    the non binary reality we live in.

    Good god.

  • Zenred
    1 points Sep 28,2018, 8:53pm

    Give an inch, take a mile.

  • MikiSayaka33
    4 points Sep 28,2018, 7:23pm

    Ya mean like how AC: Odyssey does it? I'll say "NO!"

  • OceanGaming
    2 points Sep 28,2018, 7:29pm

    GET

  • throwawaycuzmeh
    1 points Sep 28,2018, 8:25pm

    This is marxism. These people want me to help shoulder the development costs of 70+ gender options for all protagonists despite the facts that 97% of people identify as either male or female and the vast majority of core game players are simply male.

  • LaxSagacity
    1 points Sep 28,2018, 8:42pm

    A gender slider? One you can adjust at any time based on how you feel? Seriously???

    I honestly don't get this thing on a character having to be you in a game? How far are we off from accusations of white washing or cultural appropriation if a white person plays a black character in a game?

    I'm fine if they do a gender option and make some changes to the skills and fighting. So you could play through both and find which one matches your play style. That's be really cool. Also if there were some changes to characters and the story to reflect that. Like in AC:O when you visit your girlfriend/wife or whatever in the story. If you're a chick, you visit your husband, boyfriend etc.

    The problem is, you then go down a rabbit hole. People will complain their character is bi, or want the sexual orientation of their character to match how they feel at any given moment. This is the problem, there's never any limits.

  • M37h3w3
    1 points Sep 28,2018, 8:48pm

    Yeah Ubisoft, how long until you spend all that time and effort retooling the dialogue and text for 5% of the total population; of which, I'm willing to bet, only another single digit percent actually plays games at all, much less your games

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COMMENTS

  • pinkerbelle
    1 points Sep 24,2018, 2:19pm
  • King_Brutus
    253 points Sep 24,2018, 2:40pm

    God I'm sick of these fucking people.

  • Limon_Lime
    217 points Sep 24,2018, 2:02pm

    I really hope the "kill switch" thing is true and then after the Linux structure begins to collapse, SJWs get blamed for it. I really want this to blow up in their fucking faces.

    Edit: The people replying to my comment make good points. Yes, while SJWs won't care, I think the main thing to take from this is that it will turn more people against them.

  • horseyhorseyhorsey
    70 points Sep 24,2018, 3:56pm

    Ehmke is just trying to get her own back on the world he/she was born into for making her such a fuck up. Her twitter is a COLOSSAL train wreck of drug and alcohol abuse, suicidal cries for help, trips to psychiatric hospitals, fucking magic spells and tarot cards, oh, and maybe a little bit of ruby.

    I have no idea how anyone in their right mind can take her seriously.

  • stonepitbull141
    57 points Sep 24,2018, 1:50pm

    Bad (or sick) guy!

  • Head_Cockswain
    22 points Sep 24,2018, 4:27pm

    So, my question is:

    Can't people just fork over onto another project without the CoC and leave the diversity contributors to linger and cause linux proper to stagnate and rot?

    Being open source collaborative projects, they can always just pick up and take their skills elsewhere. This is not quite like SJW Wormtongues commandeering say, an actual business with a whipped CEO that hires and fires people as directed.

    /not familiar with the organization of the linux world

  • xxflexluthorxx
    101 points Sep 24,2018, 3:01pm

    This is what happens when you start taking mentally ill transsexuals seriously and give them power.

  • Mad_Drakalor
    16 points Sep 24,2018, 4:18pm

    It frustrates me so much when this is happening when Linux gaming is picking up thanks to Steam Play Valve, and the advancements in DXVK and WINE. To think Linux will fail to make some sort of dent in the Windows and MacOS marketshare because of SJWs.

  • CravenTHC
    16 points Sep 24,2018, 4:30pm

    I just want to know one thing. If each contributor owns their contributions, and Linus is out, why can't Linus simply take his contributions, and all others disgusted by these events, elsewhere without this infestation? I know It's a difficult road to hoe, but it seems like this is going to set the entire project back years regardless.

  • BulbasaurusThe7th
    22 points Sep 24,2018, 2:34pm

    Why do you look like Steve Pemberton in The League of Gentlemen, "Coraline"? Why are you as crazy as Steve Pemberton's characters in The League of Gentlemen, "Coraline"?

  • Edheldui
    21 points Sep 24,2018, 3:42pm

    I can't wait until these fucks find out how open source works. hahaha

  • deadlypuppyfarts
    9 points Sep 24,2018, 5:48pm

    SJWs have the opposite of the midas touch. They're toxic scumbags. What of that line of "if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen"? These idiots can't hack it in the real world where people are most certainly going to have differences of opinion so they need to fabricate some bullshit alternative where they force everyone to capitulate to their brand of stupid. This kind of forced acceptance isn't about stopping actual abuse and inviting cordiality, it's about encouraging mediocrity.

  • Seeattle_Seehawks
    29 points Sep 24,2018, 2:09pm

    person with purple hair

    they’re worried about a SJW takeover

    I am legitimately surprised. Unless I’m misunderstanding something here, I suppose this is a good reminder of why you shouldn’t judge on appearances...

    Never mind, usual shit.

  • AmABannedGayGuy
    8 points Sep 24,2018, 5:46pm

    Last time I checked insulin pumps didn't come about because someone had a penis but because someone saw a solution to a problem. That's how I like to look at this whole fucking mess. Someone out there saw solutions to problems and they worked with others to bring about these solutions.

    Meanwhile we have this cunt, who doesn't see a legit problem and her "solution" is pretty much just to destroy. Fuck that shit. I worry that her shit will infect the technology that I rely on to live (course if that happens I guess it's just back to injections for me, which just fucking sucks 3+ shots a day vs 1 jab to attach an infusion set every 2 days).

  • Niikopol
    9 points Sep 24,2018, 6:00pm

    According to her CV she is an experienced coder.

    Imagine what she could have done if instead of pushing this socjust agenda, she would focus on perfecting her coding skills. Instead she gets a start from some publication that no one reads, that will in effect amount to nothing, and hatred from large part of open source community. Within few years probably setting up a GoFungMe accounting because she doesnt have money for rent.

    Congratulations...

  • SighmanSays
    5 points Sep 24,2018, 1:54pm

    alfred.jpg

  • Aurondarklord
    7 points Sep 24,2018, 6:13pm

    These people live for spite and spite alone, they can't create, only destroy.

  • MarioLopezGymSocks
    5 points Sep 24,2018, 4:45pm

    I need to know more about the "Egyptian magic" thing people are posting about this Coraline person.

  • BasedBastiat
    5 points Sep 24,2018, 5:30pm

    If you thought there is an ounce of doubt over the point of the new CoC for Linux check this out

    are we just gunna have to develop an entirely separate computing infrastructure from the ground up?

  • creatureshock
    5 points Sep 24,2018, 5:35pm

    Wonder what company she owns a lot a stock in that'll see a massive uptick if Linux goes to shit.

  • Not_My_Real_Acct_
    5 points Sep 24,2018, 6:25pm

    If any of you would like to get depressed, go visit Red Hat's office. They've clearly taken the diversity agenda seriously; easily fifty percent of the employees are female, and I imagine that's by design. Every time I'm there, I see men grinding away at their desks, I see them teaching classes, I see them in meetings.

    The women? They just seem to be hanging out. I honestly can't figure out what 80% of them are doing.

    I think this leads to a lot of this SJW stuff; when you have hundreds of women hired for no particular reason besides their gender, it gives them a ton of time to invest in their own pet projects.

  • mnemosyne-0001
    4 points Sep 24,2018, 1:44pm

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  • Galacticotaku
    4 points Sep 24,2018, 5:14pm

    I have no idea what's going on, can someone fill me in?

  • liquorsnoot
    4 points Sep 24,2018, 5:32pm

    Great news for Microsoft Shareholders. It's no wonder they're comfortable with the big product cost bump Oct 1st.

  • ryuplaneswalker
    4 points Sep 24,2018, 7:26pm

    Purple Hair - BEWARE,

  • sentientfartcloud
    14 points Sep 24,2018, 3:38pm

    This tranny is really gloating isn't he? I hope this alleged kill switch works.

  • HomerNarr
    2 points Sep 24,2018, 4:44pm

    And who will code now?

  • ZodiacK427
    2 points Sep 24,2018, 6:00pm

    Can anyone fill me in on this CoC for Linux? What's the story here.

  • WORD_559
    2 points Sep 24,2018, 6:54pm

    Later down they also say that to celebrate, people should donate to their patreon. Very clear motivation there.

  • memegendered
    2 points Sep 24,2018, 7:10pm

    She's just looking to get a rise out of people so KiA probably shouldn't be treating this as a smoking gun unless we're okay with feminists using sarcastic tweets as damning evidence too.

  • deleted
    3 points Sep 24,2018, 3:39pm

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  • VaalOrbThatShit
    1 points Sep 24,2018, 7:59pm

    I don't feel sorry for any of these Linux people. You opened the doors, now watch them tear your community to shreds. That's what you get for being pushover liberals who appease to everyone and always play the nice guy. You wanted to be politically correct and inclusive, now go and reap the fucking rewards. Weak shit always dies.

  • Zanos
    1 points Sep 24,2018, 8:21pm

    I thought a Code of Conduct was a misplaced but noble idea until I actually read the fucking thing, and WHOAH BOY. From the introduction, not even cherrypicked from deep in it's bowels:

    Marginalized people also suffer some of the unintended consequences of dogmatic insistence on meritocratic principles of governance. Studies have shown that organizational cultures that value meritocracy often result in greater inequality.

    The linked studied is paywalled and only says that men and women of equal objective merit resulted in men having a greater reward, which of course has nothing to do with the fact that men often push harder for monetary compensation due to the perception of men as breadwinners. Not that the author actually believes in objective merit, as she describes in her long rant about how meritocracy is bad here.

    People with “merit” are often excused for their bad behavior in public spaces based on the value of their technical contributions.

    I like that merit is in quotes. But of course they are. Why would you not be willing to put up with more shit from the person providing more value?

    Meritocracy also naively assumes a level playing field, in which everyone has access to the same resources, free time, and common life experiences to draw upon.

    So what? It's FOSS. Nobody gives a flying fuck that your code is shit because you're a poor quadriplegic from Siberia, it isn't getting merged.

    These factors and more make contributing to open source a daunting prospect for many people, especially women and other underrepresented people.

    An open source project where your real identity can be completely anonymous? This person really does seem to believe that having a room full of diverse skin and genders is more important than having a room full of competent software developers.

    (For more critical analysis of meritocracy, refer to this entry on the Geek Feminism wiki.)

    Ah, an unbiased source.

  • mnemosyne-0002
    1 points Sep 24,2018, 8:35pm

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  • MrComicBook
    -15 points Sep 24,2018, 3:30pm

    Linux, people use that still?

    I thought it was just developers and the occasional techno-hipster.

COMMENTS

  • pinkerbelle
    1 points Sep 24,2018, 2:19pm
  • King_Brutus
    253 points Sep 24,2018, 2:40pm

    God I'm sick of these fucking people.

  • Limon_Lime
    217 points Sep 24,2018, 2:02pm

    I really hope the "kill switch" thing is true and then after the Linux structure begins to collapse, SJWs get blamed for it. I really want this to blow up in their fucking faces.

    Edit: The people replying to my comment make good points. Yes, while SJWs won't care, I think the main thing to take from this is that it will turn more people against them.

  • 2tb-of-yiff
    35 points Sep 24,2018, 1:57pm

    Anybody got an Archive link to this tweet?

  • horseyhorseyhorsey
    70 points Sep 24,2018, 3:56pm

    Ehmke is just trying to get her own back on the world he/she was born into for making her such a fuck up. Her twitter is a COLOSSAL train wreck of drug and alcohol abuse, suicidal cries for help, trips to psychiatric hospitals, fucking magic spells and tarot cards, oh, and maybe a little bit of ruby.

    I have no idea how anyone in their right mind can take her seriously.

  • stonepitbull141
    57 points Sep 24,2018, 1:50pm

    Bad (or sick) guy!

  • Head_Cockswain
    22 points Sep 24,2018, 4:27pm

    So, my question is:

    Can't people just fork over onto another project without the CoC and leave the diversity contributors to linger and cause linux proper to stagnate and rot?

    Being open source collaborative projects, they can always just pick up and take their skills elsewhere. This is not quite like SJW Wormtongues commandeering say, an actual business with a whipped CEO that hires and fires people as directed.

    /not familiar with the organization of the linux world

  • xxflexluthorxx
    101 points Sep 24,2018, 3:01pm

    This is what happens when you start taking mentally ill transsexuals seriously and give them power.

  • Mad_Drakalor
    16 points Sep 24,2018, 4:18pm

    It frustrates me so much when this is happening when Linux gaming is picking up thanks to Steam Play Valve, and the advancements in DXVK and WINE. To think Linux will fail to make some sort of dent in the Windows and MacOS marketshare because of SJWs.

  • CravenTHC
    16 points Sep 24,2018, 4:30pm

    I just want to know one thing. If each contributor owns their contributions, and Linus is out, why can't Linus simply take his contributions, and all others disgusted by these events, elsewhere without this infestation? I know It's a difficult road to hoe, but it seems like this is going to set the entire project back years regardless.

  • BulbasaurusThe7th
    22 points Sep 24,2018, 2:34pm

    Why do you look like Steve Pemberton in The League of Gentlemen, "Coraline"? Why are you as crazy as Steve Pemberton's characters in The League of Gentlemen, "Coraline"?

  • Edheldui
    21 points Sep 24,2018, 3:42pm

    I can't wait until these fucks find out how open source works. hahaha

  • deadlypuppyfarts
    9 points Sep 24,2018, 5:48pm

    SJWs have the opposite of the midas touch. They're toxic scumbags. What of that line of "if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen"? These idiots can't hack it in the real world where people are most certainly going to have differences of opinion so they need to fabricate some bullshit alternative where they force everyone to capitulate to their brand of stupid. This kind of forced acceptance isn't about stopping actual abuse and inviting cordiality, it's about encouraging mediocrity.

  • Seeattle_Seehawks
    29 points Sep 24,2018, 2:09pm

    person with purple hair

    they’re worried about a SJW takeover

    I am legitimately surprised. Unless I’m misunderstanding something here, I suppose this is a good reminder of why you shouldn’t judge on appearances...

    Never mind, usual shit.

  • AmABannedGayGuy
    8 points Sep 24,2018, 5:46pm

    Last time I checked insulin pumps didn't come about because someone had a penis but because someone saw a solution to a problem. That's how I like to look at this whole fucking mess. Someone out there saw solutions to problems and they worked with others to bring about these solutions.

    Meanwhile we have this cunt, who doesn't see a legit problem and her "solution" is pretty much just to destroy. Fuck that shit. I worry that her shit will infect the technology that I rely on to live (course if that happens I guess it's just back to injections for me, which just fucking sucks 3+ shots a day vs 1 jab to attach an infusion set every 2 days).

  • Niikopol
    9 points Sep 24,2018, 6:00pm

    According to her CV she is an experienced coder.

    Imagine what she could have done if instead of pushing this socjust agenda, she would focus on perfecting her coding skills. Instead she gets a start from some publication that no one reads, that will in effect amount to nothing, and hatred from large part of open source community. Within few years probably setting up a GoFungMe accounting because she doesnt have money for rent.

    Congratulations...

  • SighmanSays
    5 points Sep 24,2018, 1:54pm

    alfred.jpg

  • Aurondarklord
    7 points Sep 24,2018, 6:13pm

    These people live for spite and spite alone, they can't create, only destroy.

  • MarioLopezGymSocks
    5 points Sep 24,2018, 4:45pm

    I need to know more about the "Egyptian magic" thing people are posting about this Coraline person.

  • BasedBastiat
    5 points Sep 24,2018, 5:30pm

    If you thought there is an ounce of doubt over the point of the new CoC for Linux check this out

    are we just gunna have to develop an entirely separate computing infrastructure from the ground up?

  • creatureshock
    5 points Sep 24,2018, 5:35pm

    Wonder what company she owns a lot a stock in that'll see a massive uptick if Linux goes to shit.

  • Not_My_Real_Acct_
    5 points Sep 24,2018, 6:25pm

    If any of you would like to get depressed, go visit Red Hat's office. They've clearly taken the diversity agenda seriously; easily fifty percent of the employees are female, and I imagine that's by design. Every time I'm there, I see men grinding away at their desks, I see them teaching classes, I see them in meetings.

    The women? They just seem to be hanging out. I honestly can't figure out what 80% of them are doing.

    I think this leads to a lot of this SJW stuff; when you have hundreds of women hired for no particular reason besides their gender, it gives them a ton of time to invest in their own pet projects.

  • mnemosyne-0001
    4 points Sep 24,2018, 1:44pm

    Archive links for this post:


    I am Mnemosyne reborn. What has been seen cannot be unseen. /r/botsrights

  • Galacticotaku
    4 points Sep 24,2018, 5:14pm

    I have no idea what's going on, can someone fill me in?

  • liquorsnoot
    4 points Sep 24,2018, 5:32pm

    Great news for Microsoft Shareholders. It's no wonder they're comfortable with the big product cost bump Oct 1st.

  • ryuplaneswalker
    4 points Sep 24,2018, 7:26pm

    Purple Hair - BEWARE,

  • sentientfartcloud
    14 points Sep 24,2018, 3:38pm

    This tranny is really gloating isn't he? I hope this alleged kill switch works.

  • HomerNarr
    2 points Sep 24,2018, 4:44pm

    And who will code now?

  • ZodiacK427
    2 points Sep 24,2018, 6:00pm

    Can anyone fill me in on this CoC for Linux? What's the story here.

  • WORD_559
    2 points Sep 24,2018, 6:54pm

    Later down they also say that to celebrate, people should donate to their patreon. Very clear motivation there.