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[Socjus] Valve includes black & brown in the rainbow graphic for their "LGBTQ+ Games Sale"

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COMMENTS

  • allo_ver
    1 points Oct 11,2019, 8:15pm

    Everyone should take a good look at that image for how shit it looks like.

    Just look at it. It's one of the ugliest things I've laid eyes upon recently. Makes me wonder if they did this on purpose to make it repulsive.

  • brappablat
    1 points Oct 11,2019, 7:57pm

    Conspicuously absent from the sale: Heartbeat

  • B-VOLLEYBALL-READY
    1 points Oct 11,2019, 7:59pm

    Being brown is a sexuality now?

  • Sujet
    1 points Oct 11,2019, 8:27pm

    It's the Philadelphia Pride Flag

  • mnemosyne-0001
    1 points Oct 11,2019, 7:53pm

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COMMENTS

  • allo_ver
    1 points Oct 11,2019, 8:15pm

    Everyone should take a good look at that image for how shit it looks like.

    Just look at it. It's one of the ugliest things I've laid eyes upon recently. Makes me wonder if they did this on purpose to make it repulsive.

  • brappablat
    1 points Oct 11,2019, 7:57pm

    Conspicuously absent from the sale: Heartbeat

  • B-VOLLEYBALL-READY
    1 points Oct 11,2019, 7:59pm

    Being brown is a sexuality now?

  • grizzlebizzle1
    1 points Oct 11,2019, 8:29pm

    Black lives matters and other racial supremacist groups have been hijacking LGBT shit for a while now to the point of taking over and interfering with pride celebrations. They just accept it because it would be "racist" not to.

  • Sujet
    1 points Oct 11,2019, 8:27pm

    It's the Philadelphia Pride Flag

  • mnemosyne-0001
    1 points Oct 11,2019, 7:53pm

    Archive links for this post:


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Just GDQ forcing streamers to use more real estate for their pronouns than their actual names

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COMMENTS

  • anonttt
    422 points Oct 03,2019, 10:23pm

    Good to know GDQ still isn't worth my time.

  • FSG_Jay
    354 points Oct 03,2019, 10:28pm

    Games Done Queer I guess.

    Fucking hell.

  • brappablat
    159 points Oct 03,2019, 8:59pm

    What happens if, when asked, you say "Whatever" "I don't care" "All of them"?

  • MilleniaZero
    94 points Oct 03,2019, 10:07pm

    Pointless when there's like what, 1% of runners that won't have the default ones? And the ones that won't have the default ones are glaringly obvious.

  • NoPantsBaby
    217 points Oct 03,2019, 10:21pm

    Nig/Nog

  • wiggeldy
    44 points Oct 04,2019, 1:18am

    Oh that is creepy. What happens if you don't give a pronoun, ban?

  • DeeDoubs
    42 points Oct 04,2019, 1:37am

    DEPLOY PRONOUN SCREEN

    YOU HAVE FIVE SECONDS TO COMPLY

  • PixelCortex
    46 points Oct 04,2019, 2:43am

    To think I used to take time off from work to watch GDQ, how far they have fallen...

  • Nomac2016
    39 points Oct 04,2019, 5:55am

    I watched SGDQ this year against my better judgement. Boy is it getting cringey. Puns are pretty much the only jokes allowed now and it feels like 50% of the runners are trans.

  • bobby_corwin
    70 points Oct 04,2019, 12:40am

    Attack/Helicopter

  • CreamyHoneyMustard
    34 points Oct 04,2019, 4:18am

    i cant wrap my head around how the far left nutjobs managed to force that shit onto us, there wasnt any social debate about it, they just introduced it and enforce it as the new norm.
    its infuriating beyond believe. idk whom i despise more, the far left fucks or the sheep who blindly accept it.

  • No_Weekend
    132 points Oct 03,2019, 11:30pm

    My pronouns are Vote/Trump. I'm sure that would go over swimmingly.

  • Maga4lifeshutitdown
    44 points Oct 04,2019, 4:22am

    I miss the old gdq. About a couple years ago they started going full Hitler against anyone that slightly went off script or slightly offended anyone. The offenses don't even have to make sense or even really happen. All it takes is one transexual to point a finger and it's instant ban hammer. I got more enjoyment out of dance dad in the audience than anything else the announcers or their cringe awkward breaks they would do to promote gdq.

  • marnssj2
    19 points Oct 04,2019, 3:10am

    This is embarrassing

  • mefeu07
    20 points Oct 04,2019, 6:58am

    I got banned permanently a while ago for posting the word "they" and using the CmonBruh emote. LoL

  • OnibabaAzamiOgami
    17 points Oct 04,2019, 1:49am

    Holy fuck lmao

  • SongForPenny
    11 points Oct 04,2019, 6:32am

    My pronouns are “The Lord thy God,” and “Almighty God,” and I expect to be referred to as such. I identify as a God, far superior to you. Show some respect.

  • KaltatheNobleMind
    12 points Oct 03,2019, 11:18pm

    I do t know why but seeing the players are cos males amuses me.

  • Steampunk_Moustache
    11 points Oct 04,2019, 6:01am

    I stopped watching this shitshow 3 years ago. Glad I did.

  • Skigge
    11 points Oct 04,2019, 6:23am

    What does "more real estate" mean? Not english tonguer.

  • Dranosh
    10 points Oct 04,2019, 7:10am

    This is how you force them to either embrace the bullshit or face reality.

    Dranosh (@xorp/@xortoam)

    Then every 5 minutes change them and claim genderfluidity

  • Commanduf
    9 points Oct 04,2019, 4:12am

    Are you actually shitting me.

  • ivnwng
    8 points Oct 04,2019, 3:33am

    What’s GDQ?

  • BocTheCrude
    9 points Oct 04,2019, 9:40am

    This is in response to the incident at GDQX where half the chat was banned for calling a man who looked like a man a man when he wanted to be called a woman with no indication of anything.

    I first met CoolMatty on a Jedi Knight mod site called called massassi.net in 2001. He rose through their mod ranks there and actually ended up taking ownership of the site. He was an absolute nazi back then and to see him causing the same shit on a much larger scale now is just sad.

  • MadeInBeirut13
    97 points Oct 03,2019, 11:15pm

    I'm a simple man, I see a tranny, I unsub and go somewhere else

  • Krombopulos-Snake
    6 points Oct 04,2019, 8:02am

    At no point in my life had I ever had to stick my dick into a coin slot to confirm my gender identity to play a game.Whatever happened to just playing games like normal people?

  • TerribleRelief9
    24 points Oct 04,2019, 6:16am

    Hasn't GDQ been nothing but trannies and freaks for years?

  • deplorablehamster
    11 points Oct 04,2019, 6:40am

    I've been having much more fun watching ESA (European Speedrunner Assembly) over GDQ. I miss when GDQ had their non-speedrun aftershows. Give me more competitive team Mario Party 2!

    Also, I thankfully haven't yet, but if I was ever required to provide pronouns for anything they would be brrt/brrrt

  • gen_server
    6 points Oct 04,2019, 5:54am

    It.

  • Roldstiffer
    4 points Oct 04,2019, 8:55am

    Like to throw the reruns on while I wind down for bed.

    This week I seen the forced pronouns and just went to bed without stimulation. Much better tbh.

  • ant_suckz
    5 points Oct 04,2019, 9:10am

    What happens if you're from a Swahili speaking African country, which doesn't have pronouns in their grammar? Or if you're from a country that uses gender inflected nouns and adjectives, then you'll need a lot more words to reflect your gender.

    I don't think they've taken other cultures into account.

  • AirbladeOrange
    6 points Oct 04,2019, 10:58am

    I only recently found out about Games Done Quick and really liked the concept. Skilled players speed running games for charity is a cool idea. But it felt so tame that it got a little boring and I’d only watch games I knew well. I’d watch any game even if I knew nothing about it if the enthusiasm and humor were there.

    It’s like what Incontrol brought to the Starcraft scene. Passion and humor.

  • Yanman_be
    5 points Oct 04,2019, 11:04am

    You may address me as "The artist formerly known as "The magnificent pussylover 69""

  • Sapphiretri
    5 points Oct 04,2019, 11:28am

    This is just getting fucking stupid.

  • Linkerdo
    6 points Oct 04,2019, 11:38am

    Is it helpful since 99.9% of the population go by the gender that corresponds with their sex? Seems like a solution in search of a problem.

  • fourthwallcrisis
    5 points Oct 04,2019, 11:41am

    I saw something last year about a dumbass LGB panel they had. Noone gives a shit, it's about speed running and charity. Fucking rainbow cunts hijacking a good cause and causing shit over a problem that didn't exist.

    Guess I'll move to doing local charity work and stop donating to these cunts, nice job guys!

  • duckydan
    5 points Oct 04,2019, 1:50pm

    Clownworld

  • PM_YOUR_SIDE_CLUNGE
    19 points Oct 04,2019, 6:32am

    My pronouns are Nigger/Bidenisapaedo

  • Vilifiedlol
    5 points Oct 04,2019, 6:42am

    What the fuck is this?

  • johnchapel
    4 points Oct 04,2019, 11:42am

    There is nothing more obnoxious than pronoun declaration. Like honestly, in any form; even when ASKED about them.

  • Jesus_Faction
    5 points Oct 04,2019, 12:01pm

    The only way to watch GDQ anymore is on mute.

  • akafamilyfunny
    4 points Oct 04,2019, 12:27pm

    I get this feeling that despite GDQ's efforts, and to their chagrin, there were still a lot of "he/him's" this year.

  • Zebee47
    5 points Oct 04,2019, 1:08pm

    I noticed this a little while ago.

    They have some...interesting...runners now.

    I think it was last week there was a booger (didn't see them but had a very masculine voice) that kept referring to themselves as female. Like it wasn't a problem at first but got distracting after you realized what they were doing. Kept going out of their way to say things like "I'm a very lucky girl" and "I'm the queen of...". I mean it was enough to notice. It was as if someone got a haircut and kept doing and sayings things to get you to ask if they got a new haircut.

    I'm not sure what they were trying to do. Trying to goad people into saying something? Nobody gave a shit.

  • YourBestFren777
    13 points Oct 04,2019, 6:03am

    My prounums are nig and ger, please obey or you go to jail.

  • CrankyDClown
    5 points Oct 04,2019, 3:33am

    Forcing or did they do this out of their own volition?

    This is nothing but a screenshot of a stream.

  • RaidenDark
    6 points Oct 04,2019, 11:26am

    My preferred pronouns are goy/goyim

  • mnemosyne-0001
    3 points Oct 03,2019, 8:45pm

    Archive links for this post:


    I am Mnemosyne reborn. Bite my shiny, metal archive. /r/botsrights

  • Magus6796
    3 points Oct 04,2019, 7:57am

    Wow. That's dumb.

  • SlipperyThong
    3 points Oct 04,2019, 10:54am

    Jesus fuck.

  • Aurondarklord
    3 points Oct 04,2019, 12:52pm

    This is absurdity. FFS, these are two guys, we don't need anything to TELL us that.

  • JustiniZHere
    3 points Oct 04,2019, 1:09pm

    I remember when GDQ was actually about supporting charity not a circus side show.

    It's disgusting how they will coopt anything.

  • ChinoGambino
    3 points Oct 04,2019, 3:03pm

    Its sickening when you think why this is being done.

  • Scottgun00
    3 points Oct 04,2019, 3:27pm

    So, it's confirmed you have to select pronouns?

    Are the options preset? If not, can you enter stuff like:

    POO/ASS (in honor of Homer Simpson bowling episode)

    Two/Gen

    etc.?

  • nekoperator
    5 points Oct 04,2019, 2:48am

    The only good thing about gdq is the donations and the "best bits" videos that happen after some hoon goes to town on a fem*les chair.

  • Devil_Nights
    2 points Oct 04,2019, 7:59am

    Is Keizaron streaming from his aunt's guest bedroom?

  • shartybarfunkle
    2 points Oct 04,2019, 12:07pm

    Wait, they make them include their pronouns?

  • bloodguard
    2 points Oct 04,2019, 1:00pm

    Good grief. I'd make mine Bloodguard (feck/off).

  • poloppoyop
    2 points Oct 04,2019, 3:28pm

    The Worldeater / Their Divine Majesty

  • paprikarat12
    4 points Oct 04,2019, 7:00am

    tbh i dont know who is more mentall ill: the transgenders or the speedrunning community. and these 2 communitites overlap a lot.

  • darkoh
    2 points Oct 04,2019, 3:39am

    I think they already dropped this. The most recent event (GDQx) didn't have pronouns on any run (that I watched), and this is from an event before that. We'll see how it goes for AGDQ 2020 but I don't think they got a good reception on it.

  • ShinePale
    2 points Oct 04,2019, 12:50pm

    Stopped watching when they banned Werster. How do you ban the apex autist, and expect people to be okay with that?

  • turtletank
    2 points Oct 04,2019, 2:46pm

    雄/彼, and if you can't pronounce, read, or write it then fuck you, you white colonizing bastard.

  • SleepDeprivedOwl
    1 points Oct 04,2019, 10:49am

    Oh boi, Imagine if peoplw started making stupid joke potential "hentai/ lolicon"

  • nmotsch789
    1 points Oct 04,2019, 1:28pm

    Unrelated, but I see that's Titanfall 2 being ran in this pic. It's a good game.

  • DeeCups
    -7 points Oct 03,2019, 8:48pm

    Do you have any proof that GDQ is forcing them to do this?

  • ShyvanaDrako
    -14 points Oct 04,2019, 8:02am

    Its literally the same size

    Jesus Christ I thought they were supposed to be the easily rustled ones.

  • Nekaz
    -4 points Oct 04,2019, 12:27pm

    Although i agree this pronoun shit is dumb you can't seriously think that having like 5 extra characters on the screen is any real burden

  • Joseph-Joestar2
    -27 points Oct 04,2019, 7:26am

    It's really a non-issue, and it's funny that the group that paints everyone as sjw snowflakes get their panties in a bunch about the smallest of things.

  • Dvaynethecockjohnson
    -5 points Oct 04,2019, 12:11pm

    How can you be mad at this?

  • TehRazzeh
    -16 points Oct 04,2019, 8:42am

    Oh no, the world is coming to an end, it'll be fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling. Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria!

    ... Or this just might be a pointless thing not worth getting your titans in a twist over. One of the two.

    Though we all know it's all part of the massive left/SJW/Jew/cyclist/Hillary/reptoid/ancient Egyptian conspiracy anyway.

    CyaRaziel-chan

COMMENTS

  • anonttt
    422 points Oct 03,2019, 10:23pm

    Good to know GDQ still isn't worth my time.

  • FSG_Jay
    354 points Oct 03,2019, 10:28pm

    Games Done Queer I guess.

    Fucking hell.

  • brappablat
    159 points Oct 03,2019, 8:59pm

    What happens if, when asked, you say "Whatever" "I don't care" "All of them"?

  • Illuison
    150 points Oct 03,2019, 11:25pm

    I've always wondered; why do they always specify both "he" and "him"? Are there people out there who prefer mixed pronouns or something?

  • MilleniaZero
    94 points Oct 03,2019, 10:07pm

    Pointless when there's like what, 1% of runners that won't have the default ones? And the ones that won't have the default ones are glaringly obvious.

  • NoPantsBaby
    217 points Oct 03,2019, 10:21pm

    Nig/Nog

  • wiggeldy
    44 points Oct 04,2019, 1:18am

    Oh that is creepy. What happens if you don't give a pronoun, ban?

  • DeeDoubs
    42 points Oct 04,2019, 1:37am

    DEPLOY PRONOUN SCREEN

    YOU HAVE FIVE SECONDS TO COMPLY

  • PixelCortex
    46 points Oct 04,2019, 2:43am

    To think I used to take time off from work to watch GDQ, how far they have fallen...

  • Nomac2016
    39 points Oct 04,2019, 5:55am

    I watched SGDQ this year against my better judgement. Boy is it getting cringey. Puns are pretty much the only jokes allowed now and it feels like 50% of the runners are trans.

  • bobby_corwin
    70 points Oct 04,2019, 12:40am

    Attack/Helicopter

  • CreamyHoneyMustard
    34 points Oct 04,2019, 4:18am

    i cant wrap my head around how the far left nutjobs managed to force that shit onto us, there wasnt any social debate about it, they just introduced it and enforce it as the new norm.
    its infuriating beyond believe. idk whom i despise more, the far left fucks or the sheep who blindly accept it.

  • No_Weekend
    132 points Oct 03,2019, 11:30pm

    My pronouns are Vote/Trump. I'm sure that would go over swimmingly.

  • Maga4lifeshutitdown
    44 points Oct 04,2019, 4:22am

    I miss the old gdq. About a couple years ago they started going full Hitler against anyone that slightly went off script or slightly offended anyone. The offenses don't even have to make sense or even really happen. All it takes is one transexual to point a finger and it's instant ban hammer. I got more enjoyment out of dance dad in the audience than anything else the announcers or their cringe awkward breaks they would do to promote gdq.

  • marnssj2
    19 points Oct 04,2019, 3:10am

    This is embarrassing

  • mefeu07
    20 points Oct 04,2019, 6:58am

    I got banned permanently a while ago for posting the word "they" and using the CmonBruh emote. LoL

  • OnibabaAzamiOgami
    17 points Oct 04,2019, 1:49am

    Holy fuck lmao

  • SongForPenny
    11 points Oct 04,2019, 6:32am

    My pronouns are “The Lord thy God,” and “Almighty God,” and I expect to be referred to as such. I identify as a God, far superior to you. Show some respect.

  • KaltatheNobleMind
    12 points Oct 03,2019, 11:18pm

    I do t know why but seeing the players are cos males amuses me.

  • Steampunk_Moustache
    11 points Oct 04,2019, 6:01am

    I stopped watching this shitshow 3 years ago. Glad I did.

  • Skigge
    11 points Oct 04,2019, 6:23am

    What does "more real estate" mean? Not english tonguer.

  • Dranosh
    10 points Oct 04,2019, 7:10am

    This is how you force them to either embrace the bullshit or face reality.

    Dranosh (@xorp/@xortoam)

    Then every 5 minutes change them and claim genderfluidity

  • Commanduf
    9 points Oct 04,2019, 4:12am

    Are you actually shitting me.

  • ivnwng
    8 points Oct 04,2019, 3:33am

    What’s GDQ?

  • BocTheCrude
    9 points Oct 04,2019, 9:40am

    This is in response to the incident at GDQX where half the chat was banned for calling a man who looked like a man a man when he wanted to be called a woman with no indication of anything.

    I first met CoolMatty on a Jedi Knight mod site called called massassi.net in 2001. He rose through their mod ranks there and actually ended up taking ownership of the site. He was an absolute nazi back then and to see him causing the same shit on a much larger scale now is just sad.

  • MadeInBeirut13
    97 points Oct 03,2019, 11:15pm

    I'm a simple man, I see a tranny, I unsub and go somewhere else

  • Krombopulos-Snake
    6 points Oct 04,2019, 8:02am

    At no point in my life had I ever had to stick my dick into a coin slot to confirm my gender identity to play a game.Whatever happened to just playing games like normal people?

  • TerribleRelief9
    24 points Oct 04,2019, 6:16am

    Hasn't GDQ been nothing but trannies and freaks for years?

  • deplorablehamster
    11 points Oct 04,2019, 6:40am

    I've been having much more fun watching ESA (European Speedrunner Assembly) over GDQ. I miss when GDQ had their non-speedrun aftershows. Give me more competitive team Mario Party 2!

    Also, I thankfully haven't yet, but if I was ever required to provide pronouns for anything they would be brrt/brrrt

  • gen_server
    6 points Oct 04,2019, 5:54am

    It.

  • Roldstiffer
    4 points Oct 04,2019, 8:55am

    Like to throw the reruns on while I wind down for bed.

    This week I seen the forced pronouns and just went to bed without stimulation. Much better tbh.

  • ant_suckz
    5 points Oct 04,2019, 9:10am

    What happens if you're from a Swahili speaking African country, which doesn't have pronouns in their grammar? Or if you're from a country that uses gender inflected nouns and adjectives, then you'll need a lot more words to reflect your gender.

    I don't think they've taken other cultures into account.

  • AirbladeOrange
    6 points Oct 04,2019, 10:58am

    I only recently found out about Games Done Quick and really liked the concept. Skilled players speed running games for charity is a cool idea. But it felt so tame that it got a little boring and I’d only watch games I knew well. I’d watch any game even if I knew nothing about it if the enthusiasm and humor were there.

    It’s like what Incontrol brought to the Starcraft scene. Passion and humor.

  • Yanman_be
    5 points Oct 04,2019, 11:04am

    You may address me as "The artist formerly known as "The magnificent pussylover 69""

  • Sapphiretri
    5 points Oct 04,2019, 11:28am

    This is just getting fucking stupid.

  • Linkerdo
    6 points Oct 04,2019, 11:38am

    Is it helpful since 99.9% of the population go by the gender that corresponds with their sex? Seems like a solution in search of a problem.

  • fourthwallcrisis
    5 points Oct 04,2019, 11:41am

    I saw something last year about a dumbass LGB panel they had. Noone gives a shit, it's about speed running and charity. Fucking rainbow cunts hijacking a good cause and causing shit over a problem that didn't exist.

    Guess I'll move to doing local charity work and stop donating to these cunts, nice job guys!

  • duckydan
    5 points Oct 04,2019, 1:50pm

    Clownworld

  • PM_YOUR_SIDE_CLUNGE
    19 points Oct 04,2019, 6:32am

    My pronouns are Nigger/Bidenisapaedo

  • Vilifiedlol
    5 points Oct 04,2019, 6:42am

    What the fuck is this?

  • johnchapel
    4 points Oct 04,2019, 11:42am

    There is nothing more obnoxious than pronoun declaration. Like honestly, in any form; even when ASKED about them.

  • Jesus_Faction
    5 points Oct 04,2019, 12:01pm

    The only way to watch GDQ anymore is on mute.

  • akafamilyfunny
    4 points Oct 04,2019, 12:27pm

    I get this feeling that despite GDQ's efforts, and to their chagrin, there were still a lot of "he/him's" this year.

  • Zebee47
    5 points Oct 04,2019, 1:08pm

    I noticed this a little while ago.

    They have some...interesting...runners now.

    I think it was last week there was a booger (didn't see them but had a very masculine voice) that kept referring to themselves as female. Like it wasn't a problem at first but got distracting after you realized what they were doing. Kept going out of their way to say things like "I'm a very lucky girl" and "I'm the queen of...". I mean it was enough to notice. It was as if someone got a haircut and kept doing and sayings things to get you to ask if they got a new haircut.

    I'm not sure what they were trying to do. Trying to goad people into saying something? Nobody gave a shit.

  • YourBestFren777
    13 points Oct 04,2019, 6:03am

    My prounums are nig and ger, please obey or you go to jail.

  • CrankyDClown
    5 points Oct 04,2019, 3:33am

    Forcing or did they do this out of their own volition?

    This is nothing but a screenshot of a stream.

  • RaidenDark
    6 points Oct 04,2019, 11:26am

    My preferred pronouns are goy/goyim

  • mnemosyne-0001
    3 points Oct 03,2019, 8:45pm

    Archive links for this post:


    I am Mnemosyne reborn. Bite my shiny, metal archive. /r/botsrights

  • Magus6796
    3 points Oct 04,2019, 7:57am

    Wow. That's dumb.

  • SlipperyThong
    3 points Oct 04,2019, 10:54am

    Jesus fuck.

  • Aurondarklord
    3 points Oct 04,2019, 12:52pm

    This is absurdity. FFS, these are two guys, we don't need anything to TELL us that.

  • JustiniZHere
    3 points Oct 04,2019, 1:09pm

    I remember when GDQ was actually about supporting charity not a circus side show.

    It's disgusting how they will coopt anything.

  • ChinoGambino
    3 points Oct 04,2019, 3:03pm

    Its sickening when you think why this is being done.

  • Scottgun00
    3 points Oct 04,2019, 3:27pm

    So, it's confirmed you have to select pronouns?

    Are the options preset? If not, can you enter stuff like:

    POO/ASS (in honor of Homer Simpson bowling episode)

    Two/Gen

    etc.?

  • nekoperator
    5 points Oct 04,2019, 2:48am

    The only good thing about gdq is the donations and the "best bits" videos that happen after some hoon goes to town on a fem*les chair.

  • Devil_Nights
    2 points Oct 04,2019, 7:59am

    Is Keizaron streaming from his aunt's guest bedroom?

  • shartybarfunkle
    2 points Oct 04,2019, 12:07pm

    Wait, they make them include their pronouns?

  • bloodguard
    2 points Oct 04,2019, 1:00pm

    Good grief. I'd make mine Bloodguard (feck/off).

  • poloppoyop
    2 points Oct 04,2019, 3:28pm

    The Worldeater / Their Divine Majesty

  • paprikarat12
    4 points Oct 04,2019, 7:00am

    tbh i dont know who is more mentall ill: the transgenders or the speedrunning community. and these 2 communitites overlap a lot.

  • darkoh
    2 points Oct 04,2019, 3:39am

    I think they already dropped this. The most recent event (GDQx) didn't have pronouns on any run (that I watched), and this is from an event before that. We'll see how it goes for AGDQ 2020 but I don't think they got a good reception on it.

  • ShinePale
    2 points Oct 04,2019, 12:50pm

    Stopped watching when they banned Werster. How do you ban the apex autist, and expect people to be okay with that?

  • turtletank
    2 points Oct 04,2019, 2:46pm

    雄/彼, and if you can't pronounce, read, or write it then fuck you, you white colonizing bastard.

  • SleepDeprivedOwl
    1 points Oct 04,2019, 10:49am

    Oh boi, Imagine if peoplw started making stupid joke potential "hentai/ lolicon"

  • nmotsch789
    1 points Oct 04,2019, 1:28pm

    Unrelated, but I see that's Titanfall 2 being ran in this pic. It's a good game.

  • DeeCups
    -7 points Oct 03,2019, 8:48pm

    Do you have any proof that GDQ is forcing them to do this?

  • ShyvanaDrako
    -14 points Oct 04,2019, 8:02am

    Its literally the same size

    Jesus Christ I thought they were supposed to be the easily rustled ones.

  • Nekaz
    -4 points Oct 04,2019, 12:27pm

    Although i agree this pronoun shit is dumb you can't seriously think that having like 5 extra characters on the screen is any real burden

  • Joseph-Joestar2
    -27 points Oct 04,2019, 7:26am

    It's really a non-issue, and it's funny that the group that paints everyone as sjw snowflakes get their panties in a bunch about the smallest of things.

  • Dvaynethecockjohnson
    -5 points Oct 04,2019, 12:11pm

    How can you be mad at this?

  • TehRazzeh
    -16 points Oct 04,2019, 8:42am

    Oh no, the world is coming to an end, it'll be fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling. Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria!

    ... Or this just might be a pointless thing not worth getting your titans in a twist over. One of the two.

    Though we all know it's all part of the massive left/SJW/Jew/cyclist/Hillary/reptoid/ancient Egyptian conspiracy anyway.

    CyaRaziel-chan

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[Drama]/[SocJus] One Angry Gamer losing it over Celeste to justify sparking a witch-hunt, and it's not satire.

KotakuInAction: The almost-official GamerGate subreddit!

COMMENTS

  • MaouRem
    57 points Sep 28,2019, 11:39pm

    a bit overboard on the hatred of a couple flags, but he should have known the people behind the game were willing to push crap like that when IGN gave an indie game a 10/10, reviews like that don't come around from a game being quality anymore, they come around from shilling politics

  • wharris2001
    84 points Sep 28,2019, 10:51pm

    Here's the thing: Freedom of speech allows creators to create the kind of game they want. Unless OAG has evidence this was made in response to outside pressure, he can stew in a corner.

  • totlmstr
    31 points Sep 29,2019, 12:33am

    Well, it is called One Angry Gamer...

  • _theholyghost
    8 points Sep 29,2019, 9:20am

    OAG was quite a solid source of industry info a year or two ago, but fuck me this is utter cringe. He does more damage to our cause than anything else as he just gives all the journas ammo to strawman him as 'all gamers'.

  • CharlieWhistle
    8 points Sep 29,2019, 7:20am

    Seems like a joke to me, especially the vaping part. The flag stuff is stupid, but even worse are insecure losers like Laura Kate Dale cheering about a fictional character maybe having the same issues with self-centeredness as he does.

  • RyanoftheStars
    25 points Sep 29,2019, 12:41am

    However unhinged this comes off as, I do think it's prudent to be careful how much you introduce information about what it means to be trans to children, because obviously there's a lot there that might be confusing for them to process and could lead to some wild misinterpretations and/or fears. They don't have a real good grasp on what it means to be any gender or what the ultimate consequences are. It's similar to withholding other kinds of information from children until they're ready for it. Unless of course they're one of the extreme minority who have the severe psychological conditions that need attention and might signal that they have gender identity issues.

    I would say for instance keep it out of say Spongebob or Pokemon or something like that, but just because a game is rated E for Everyone doesn't mean it's necessarily for children. That just means it's appropriate for them and two flags in the background that most children are not going to notice is hardly a need to change the rating. I doubt Celeste is even that appealing to children, at least not in the same way it is to adult hardcore gamers. The whole Smash Bros. flag situation was a whole different thing with a way different context.

    I don't even like Celeste or the developer of it either, but clearly they're not crossing a line here like Jessica Yaniv or those child drag queens who perform at clubs. If you're against censorship, one would think that means you're against pressuring people to remove ANY ideas from their works based on social censure, not just the ideas that you like.

  • ILoveD3Immoral
    9 points Sep 29,2019, 4:36am

    Wheres the "witch hunt?"

  • Blood-PawWerewolf
    30 points Sep 28,2019, 10:54pm

    I’ve seen OAG go from reporting on games that got censored/“woke” to being full of anti-LBGT and other just BS stuff

    I’ve never blocked anyone on Twitter that isn’t a bot, OAG became the first.

  • jlenoconel
    8 points Sep 29,2019, 5:32am

    Some of the people in the comment section there are insane.

  • Omegawop
    3 points Sep 29,2019, 10:17am

    This is almost exactly like the people who bitched about Catherine: Full Body being transphobic. Get over your shit and let artists make the games that they want to make. Whining about cultural degeneracy because a pixel art game deigns to include some allusion to sexuality or politics is terribly immature, "we live in a society" type shit.

    If you don't like it, don't buy it.

  • -big_booty_bitches-
    3 points Sep 29,2019, 12:08pm

    We all know Billy is an unhinged prick, but most his shit I can't find anywhere else so I tolerate it. That being said, I'm so tired of alphabet soup shit being pushed in absolutely everything that I can at least support the rage fit, if not the witch hunt.

  • md1957
    17 points Sep 28,2019, 10:48pm

    The archived link to the article, "Celeste Update Includes Gay And Trans Pride Flags", can be found here.

    Now granted, the piece in question is from September 11. And OAG being...well, OAG, is all but a given. But it's been popping up over on social media. And more than anything, it highlights just how unprofessional and far gone that site's gone. Especially since he's targeting Celeste and its creator for adding trans and pride flags. Ones that are barely even visible at that.

    Not to mention all the hyperbolic smearing:

    Matt Makes Games’ Celeste was always suspected of being a game themed around Left-wing propaganda, but there was never any definitive proof. Well, the latest expansion makes it clear exactly what kind of politics the game’s developers are trying to promote, and it casts all doubts aside....

    ...What did I tell you all before? Celeste was a gateway that leads you down a road toward the destruction of Western civilization.

    Then again, this should have been pretty obvious to anyone who was paying close attention to Matt Makes Games over the years, from banning  discussion about their inclusion of Anita Sarkeesian in the game Towerfall, to their appearance at the 2018 Game Awards. The signs were always present.

    That he used another article about Celeste (ostensibly about new content and cheats) to further smear it with SJW "heresy," is just icing on the cake.

    Which isn't even getting to his "replies" on Twitter unwittingly revealing how he's making a mountain out of a molehill, then doubling down.

  • lyra833
    13 points Sep 28,2019, 11:09pm

    Remember, when people say “you’re being an anti-SJW” to try and make you shut up about stuff, they want you to think of this guy and cringe.

  • shartybarfunkle
    5 points Sep 29,2019, 10:43am

    A game, or any piece of entertainment, including things that a left-wing person might relate to, such as a gay pride flag or whatever the fuck, does not mean the game is "left-wing propaganda." It doesn't mean the developers are "pushing an agenda."

  • darknessfx
    6 points Sep 29,2019, 1:20am

    I'm ok with OAG, they collect and report this flags for every game they find, Celeste isn't different but it just hit harder than usual on the SJW nest, just saw a thread on Gab/Gaming calling them One Angry Boomer.Sometimes they can go to far on the article and do an "Alex Jones overreaction" sketch, but to their credits they're the only place reporting all censorship (and wokeness) in games.

  • 2gig
    10 points Sep 28,2019, 11:42pm

    If they wanna make their own games and put this stuff in it, that's their business. Also find it hilarious how he's like "There is a symbol acknowledging the existence and encouraging tolerance of trans people in a game rated E!". Does he seriously think seeing a trans-person irl is enough to irreparably shatter the psyche of a child or something?

  • mrsalty10
    3 points Sep 29,2019, 9:11am

    I'm confused, what's the witch hunt that was sparked?

    I loved the gameplay of Celeste, and would have just rather not known about it's agenda.

  • He-Lo-Me
    2 points Sep 29,2019, 10:55am

    Never go full Ahab.

  • H_Guderian
    1 points Sep 29,2019, 7:51pm

    We want good games, this is a good game.

    They aren't using their power that comes with their success to shit on anyone. Move along.

  • faustusnothus
    7 points Sep 29,2019, 5:50am

    Hes seriously going for the "video games will make your kids gay trans people" angle?

    Seriously?

    Is he gonna start telling us video games cause school shootings too?

  • Aurondarklord
    7 points Sep 28,2019, 11:21pm

    What a fucking sperglord.

  • ValidAvailable
    2 points Sep 29,2019, 4:27am

    The man is angry and enjoys crudge word choices just for the shock value (I think) and takes his porn a little too seriously, but he's not wrong about the constant and endless idiocy of people trying to quietly shove social justice into basically everything. After all, its less the big things than the added-up little things that have had our society on this steady path for decades, and if we ever wanna undo the first thing is to get people to recognize it.

  • SixtyFours
    3 points Sep 28,2019, 11:23pm

    Usher is an absolute homophobe and there is nothing to convince me otherwise.

    edit - minor word change

  • Goku45321
    3 points Sep 29,2019, 1:00am

    All I can say is, I don’t plan on buying the game just because of the current climate that’s basically politics.

    I don’t mind anyone who is gay or whatever, but considering how few games can be somewhat good if they include gays, I just haven’t been able to enjoy anything like how video games should be if understand what I mean.

    A example is Undertale, to which from my knowledge, only had two gay couples and nothing else, to which other characters are basically headcannon and nothing of concrete evidence.

    Beyond that, the game was decent, but the message that it carries can be a bit much of someone can’t handle it, or if someone just doesn’t like anything it offers.

    Someone on here even showed that the creator didn’t like identity politics from a interview, which was good enough for me, and I gotta say, the characters don’t feel forced, but they are quirky.

  • D_A_BERONI
    3 points Sep 29,2019, 8:00am

    OAG is fun because he's the stereotype gamers rise up memes are mocking, except he's serious

  • matrix07012
    3 points Sep 29,2019, 4:09am

    OAG became an absolute sperg in the last year or so. While I'm still glad he keeps track of games censored, his site is full of click bait, rage bait and overall bullshit

    The article is basically what SJWs do every goddamn time and stuff like this is a blessing for them because they lack any self awareness, so they can say "The gamers are upset again".

  • Unplussed
    3 points Sep 29,2019, 12:30am

    Yeah, the grip has been lost.

  • redn2000
    1 points Sep 29,2019, 11:45am

    Isn't this by the same guy that threw a tantrum over the gay rats? And while I can say it's odd if a kid has those flags around, it sounds pretty innocuous compared to the other stuff that gets shoved into games.

  • FinalGuardian
    1 points Sep 29,2019, 12:37pm

    I was going to get this at a later date since I like challenging games but thanks to that I'm good, if they are willing to add content to a game to virtue signal, they might remove content as well. See Johnny Cages harmless OK hand.

  • Letsgetacid
    -1 points Sep 29,2019, 12:39am

    This nigga's spergin out.

  • Akesgeroth
    2 points Sep 29,2019, 2:40am

    Shit like that is why I decided to stop going to KiA 2 as well. Fucking insanity. Any legit discussion gets drowned out in "THE JEWS" and other such bullshit.

  • your_dad1234
    1 points Sep 29,2019, 8:29am

    Good. I don't want to see this gay/trans shit in my video games. It is fucking degenerate. That is how they are changing overton window. From little things like this to full blown SJW insanity. Stop the disease at its core.

  • PsychologicalBad0
    1 points Sep 29,2019, 4:53am

    I'm always saying it, but the far-right and far-left are basically the same. They may hate each other, but really all of them can be called SJWs. They both think they are better than the other, and yet they have the exact same behaviors. I think these people spend so much time on video game politics that they go crazy. They start to see every little bullshit as 'leftist propaganda', and I'm not gonna say whether it is or isn't, but this is exactly the same kind of behavior as leftists screeching about everything being sexist, racist, transphobic, etc.

  • JackoffSanzini
    -1 points Sep 29,2019, 12:14pm

    This post is SJW bullshit.

  • mnemosyne-0001
    0 points Sep 28,2019, 10:44pm

    Archive links for this post:


    I am Mnemosyne reborn. This space for rent. /r/botsrights

  • Tehtwo
    0 points Sep 29,2019, 1:45pm

    I really don't see what the big deal is. Sneaking in politics like that, it's definitely something worth calling attention to. And he's by no means sparking a witch-hunt. Are we supposed to police the appropriate level of anger he should have?

  • Akudra
    0 points Sep 29,2019, 6:50pm

    A "witch-hunt" implies an attempt to seek out and persecute people for shaky reasons. He is simply stating that this game has certain political messages, he does not like said messages, and thinks the messages are not right for kids. Nothing about that is a witch-hunt.

  • XxXGodXxX
    -9 points Sep 29,2019, 9:01am

    Why would it be satire? Hes right. Fuck trannys and faggots. They are evil disgusting monsters that are destroying our hobby. GAMERS RISE UP!

    This sub is dead. Over run with SJW faggots pretending to be gamergaters. KotakuInAction is dead, long live KotakuInAction2

COMMENTS

  • MaouRem
    57 points Sep 28,2019, 11:39pm

    a bit overboard on the hatred of a couple flags, but he should have known the people behind the game were willing to push crap like that when IGN gave an indie game a 10/10, reviews like that don't come around from a game being quality anymore, they come around from shilling politics

  • wharris2001
    84 points Sep 28,2019, 10:51pm

    Here's the thing: Freedom of speech allows creators to create the kind of game they want. Unless OAG has evidence this was made in response to outside pressure, he can stew in a corner.

  • totlmstr
    31 points Sep 29,2019, 12:33am

    Well, it is called One Angry Gamer...

  • BlazeHeatnix83
    26 points Sep 29,2019, 3:48am

    Celeste was a better game than Gone Home, but I had a sneaking suspicion it was getting all those 10's for a similar reason. All that navel-gazing about depression and anxiety was insufferable, even if the game around it was pretty good. Seems perfect bait for woke critics.

    As for OAG, yea he's overreacting. Still gonna read his site, tho.

  • _theholyghost
    8 points Sep 29,2019, 9:20am

    OAG was quite a solid source of industry info a year or two ago, but fuck me this is utter cringe. He does more damage to our cause than anything else as he just gives all the journas ammo to strawman him as 'all gamers'.

  • CharlieWhistle
    8 points Sep 29,2019, 7:20am

    Seems like a joke to me, especially the vaping part. The flag stuff is stupid, but even worse are insecure losers like Laura Kate Dale cheering about a fictional character maybe having the same issues with self-centeredness as he does.

  • RyanoftheStars
    25 points Sep 29,2019, 12:41am

    However unhinged this comes off as, I do think it's prudent to be careful how much you introduce information about what it means to be trans to children, because obviously there's a lot there that might be confusing for them to process and could lead to some wild misinterpretations and/or fears. They don't have a real good grasp on what it means to be any gender or what the ultimate consequences are. It's similar to withholding other kinds of information from children until they're ready for it. Unless of course they're one of the extreme minority who have the severe psychological conditions that need attention and might signal that they have gender identity issues.

    I would say for instance keep it out of say Spongebob or Pokemon or something like that, but just because a game is rated E for Everyone doesn't mean it's necessarily for children. That just means it's appropriate for them and two flags in the background that most children are not going to notice is hardly a need to change the rating. I doubt Celeste is even that appealing to children, at least not in the same way it is to adult hardcore gamers. The whole Smash Bros. flag situation was a whole different thing with a way different context.

    I don't even like Celeste or the developer of it either, but clearly they're not crossing a line here like Jessica Yaniv or those child drag queens who perform at clubs. If you're against censorship, one would think that means you're against pressuring people to remove ANY ideas from their works based on social censure, not just the ideas that you like.

  • ILoveD3Immoral
    9 points Sep 29,2019, 4:36am

    Wheres the "witch hunt?"

  • Blood-PawWerewolf
    30 points Sep 28,2019, 10:54pm

    I’ve seen OAG go from reporting on games that got censored/“woke” to being full of anti-LBGT and other just BS stuff

    I’ve never blocked anyone on Twitter that isn’t a bot, OAG became the first.

  • jlenoconel
    8 points Sep 29,2019, 5:32am

    Some of the people in the comment section there are insane.

  • Omegawop
    3 points Sep 29,2019, 10:17am

    This is almost exactly like the people who bitched about Catherine: Full Body being transphobic. Get over your shit and let artists make the games that they want to make. Whining about cultural degeneracy because a pixel art game deigns to include some allusion to sexuality or politics is terribly immature, "we live in a society" type shit.

    If you don't like it, don't buy it.

  • -big_booty_bitches-
    3 points Sep 29,2019, 12:08pm

    We all know Billy is an unhinged prick, but most his shit I can't find anywhere else so I tolerate it. That being said, I'm so tired of alphabet soup shit being pushed in absolutely everything that I can at least support the rage fit, if not the witch hunt.

  • md1957
    17 points Sep 28,2019, 10:48pm

    The archived link to the article, "Celeste Update Includes Gay And Trans Pride Flags", can be found here.

    Now granted, the piece in question is from September 11. And OAG being...well, OAG, is all but a given. But it's been popping up over on social media. And more than anything, it highlights just how unprofessional and far gone that site's gone. Especially since he's targeting Celeste and its creator for adding trans and pride flags. Ones that are barely even visible at that.

    Not to mention all the hyperbolic smearing:

    Matt Makes Games’ Celeste was always suspected of being a game themed around Left-wing propaganda, but there was never any definitive proof. Well, the latest expansion makes it clear exactly what kind of politics the game’s developers are trying to promote, and it casts all doubts aside....

    ...What did I tell you all before? Celeste was a gateway that leads you down a road toward the destruction of Western civilization.

    Then again, this should have been pretty obvious to anyone who was paying close attention to Matt Makes Games over the years, from banning  discussion about their inclusion of Anita Sarkeesian in the game Towerfall, to their appearance at the 2018 Game Awards. The signs were always present.

    That he used another article about Celeste (ostensibly about new content and cheats) to further smear it with SJW "heresy," is just icing on the cake.

    Which isn't even getting to his "replies" on Twitter unwittingly revealing how he's making a mountain out of a molehill, then doubling down.

  • lyra833
    13 points Sep 28,2019, 11:09pm

    Remember, when people say “you’re being an anti-SJW” to try and make you shut up about stuff, they want you to think of this guy and cringe.

  • shartybarfunkle
    5 points Sep 29,2019, 10:43am

    A game, or any piece of entertainment, including things that a left-wing person might relate to, such as a gay pride flag or whatever the fuck, does not mean the game is "left-wing propaganda." It doesn't mean the developers are "pushing an agenda."

  • darknessfx
    6 points Sep 29,2019, 1:20am

    I'm ok with OAG, they collect and report this flags for every game they find, Celeste isn't different but it just hit harder than usual on the SJW nest, just saw a thread on Gab/Gaming calling them One Angry Boomer.Sometimes they can go to far on the article and do an "Alex Jones overreaction" sketch, but to their credits they're the only place reporting all censorship (and wokeness) in games.

  • 2gig
    10 points Sep 28,2019, 11:42pm

    If they wanna make their own games and put this stuff in it, that's their business. Also find it hilarious how he's like "There is a symbol acknowledging the existence and encouraging tolerance of trans people in a game rated E!". Does he seriously think seeing a trans-person irl is enough to irreparably shatter the psyche of a child or something?

  • mrsalty10
    3 points Sep 29,2019, 9:11am

    I'm confused, what's the witch hunt that was sparked?

    I loved the gameplay of Celeste, and would have just rather not known about it's agenda.

  • He-Lo-Me
    2 points Sep 29,2019, 10:55am

    Never go full Ahab.

  • H_Guderian
    1 points Sep 29,2019, 7:51pm

    We want good games, this is a good game.

    They aren't using their power that comes with their success to shit on anyone. Move along.

  • faustusnothus
    7 points Sep 29,2019, 5:50am

    Hes seriously going for the "video games will make your kids gay trans people" angle?

    Seriously?

    Is he gonna start telling us video games cause school shootings too?

  • Aurondarklord
    7 points Sep 28,2019, 11:21pm

    What a fucking sperglord.

  • ValidAvailable
    2 points Sep 29,2019, 4:27am

    The man is angry and enjoys crudge word choices just for the shock value (I think) and takes his porn a little too seriously, but he's not wrong about the constant and endless idiocy of people trying to quietly shove social justice into basically everything. After all, its less the big things than the added-up little things that have had our society on this steady path for decades, and if we ever wanna undo the first thing is to get people to recognize it.

  • SixtyFours
    3 points Sep 28,2019, 11:23pm

    Usher is an absolute homophobe and there is nothing to convince me otherwise.

    edit - minor word change

  • Goku45321
    3 points Sep 29,2019, 1:00am

    All I can say is, I don’t plan on buying the game just because of the current climate that’s basically politics.

    I don’t mind anyone who is gay or whatever, but considering how few games can be somewhat good if they include gays, I just haven’t been able to enjoy anything like how video games should be if understand what I mean.

    A example is Undertale, to which from my knowledge, only had two gay couples and nothing else, to which other characters are basically headcannon and nothing of concrete evidence.

    Beyond that, the game was decent, but the message that it carries can be a bit much of someone can’t handle it, or if someone just doesn’t like anything it offers.

    Someone on here even showed that the creator didn’t like identity politics from a interview, which was good enough for me, and I gotta say, the characters don’t feel forced, but they are quirky.

  • D_A_BERONI
    3 points Sep 29,2019, 8:00am

    OAG is fun because he's the stereotype gamers rise up memes are mocking, except he's serious

  • matrix07012
    3 points Sep 29,2019, 4:09am

    OAG became an absolute sperg in the last year or so. While I'm still glad he keeps track of games censored, his site is full of click bait, rage bait and overall bullshit

    The article is basically what SJWs do every goddamn time and stuff like this is a blessing for them because they lack any self awareness, so they can say "The gamers are upset again".

  • Unplussed
    3 points Sep 29,2019, 12:30am

    Yeah, the grip has been lost.

  • redn2000
    1 points Sep 29,2019, 11:45am

    Isn't this by the same guy that threw a tantrum over the gay rats? And while I can say it's odd if a kid has those flags around, it sounds pretty innocuous compared to the other stuff that gets shoved into games.

  • FinalGuardian
    1 points Sep 29,2019, 12:37pm

    I was going to get this at a later date since I like challenging games but thanks to that I'm good, if they are willing to add content to a game to virtue signal, they might remove content as well. See Johnny Cages harmless OK hand.

  • Letsgetacid
    -1 points Sep 29,2019, 12:39am

    This nigga's spergin out.

  • Akesgeroth
    2 points Sep 29,2019, 2:40am

    Shit like that is why I decided to stop going to KiA 2 as well. Fucking insanity. Any legit discussion gets drowned out in "THE JEWS" and other such bullshit.

  • your_dad1234
    1 points Sep 29,2019, 8:29am

    Good. I don't want to see this gay/trans shit in my video games. It is fucking degenerate. That is how they are changing overton window. From little things like this to full blown SJW insanity. Stop the disease at its core.

  • PsychologicalBad0
    1 points Sep 29,2019, 4:53am

    I'm always saying it, but the far-right and far-left are basically the same. They may hate each other, but really all of them can be called SJWs. They both think they are better than the other, and yet they have the exact same behaviors. I think these people spend so much time on video game politics that they go crazy. They start to see every little bullshit as 'leftist propaganda', and I'm not gonna say whether it is or isn't, but this is exactly the same kind of behavior as leftists screeching about everything being sexist, racist, transphobic, etc.

  • JackoffSanzini
    -1 points Sep 29,2019, 12:14pm

    This post is SJW bullshit.

  • mnemosyne-0001
    0 points Sep 28,2019, 10:44pm

    Archive links for this post:


    I am Mnemosyne reborn. This space for rent. /r/botsrights

  • Tehtwo
    0 points Sep 29,2019, 1:45pm

    I really don't see what the big deal is. Sneaking in politics like that, it's definitely something worth calling attention to. And he's by no means sparking a witch-hunt. Are we supposed to police the appropriate level of anger he should have?

  • Akudra
    0 points Sep 29,2019, 6:50pm

    A "witch-hunt" implies an attempt to seek out and persecute people for shaky reasons. He is simply stating that this game has certain political messages, he does not like said messages, and thinks the messages are not right for kids. Nothing about that is a witch-hunt.

  • XxXGodXxX
    -9 points Sep 29,2019, 9:01am

    Why would it be satire? Hes right. Fuck trannys and faggots. They are evil disgusting monsters that are destroying our hobby. GAMERS RISE UP!

    This sub is dead. Over run with SJW faggots pretending to be gamergaters. KotakuInAction is dead, long live KotakuInAction2

● ● ●

[Censorship] Artist shadowbanned from Instagram for making a post supporting Hong Kong protestors (removed for "hate speech") and getting mass-reported

KotakuInAction: The almost-official GamerGate subreddit!

COMMENTS

  • lyra833
    51 points Sep 25,2019, 11:42am

    The Chinese government have figure out a way to censor and control free speech even outside their country.

    Welcome to the party, pal.

  • sodiummuffin
    14 points Sep 25,2019, 11:02am

    Album with the images attached to his post.

    We see how the censorship infrastructure developed by social media companies is already being used to suppress speech criticizing the government of China - in this case likely not because China is putting pressure on Facebook/Instagram directly, but because companies have outsourced censorship decisions to any group that can muster up enough reports. Shadowbanning on Instagram means his posts don't show up to people who aren't already his followers, and has no transparency by design, making it ideal for this kind of censorship.

  • superdude411
    31 points Sep 25,2019, 11:41am

    Social media publishers are colluding with the Chinese government to suppress free speech. This is proof.

  • NosyLeoFrank
    8 points Sep 25,2019, 2:55pm

    Reminds me of that African dictatorship that decided to call its anti-dissent laws "hate speech legislation" because that's what all the western megalomaniacs were doing.

  • MaouRem
    13 points Sep 25,2019, 11:28am

    Never any reason to shadow ban anyone for anything, if it's some severe case of a call to violence or something they can at least own up to an open ban, the act of being shadowy about it should be a crime

  • evilplushie
    5 points Sep 25,2019, 12:53pm

    Meanwhile white women feminists are in HK telling protestors it's better to be safe than free and taking down their signs

  • totlmstr
    3 points Sep 25,2019, 1:09pm

    Yuumei, huh?

    She's a really talented artist, even gets recommended a lot. She also sometimes details about life in China (she does not live there, but she was born there).

    That piece that got her taken down, as she mentioned, is really old. It's from 2012. She does often post it in the context of protests (since it is a protest image).

    That said, I'm really not surprised she's supporting the Hong Kong protests, and even less surprised that her art got taken down because of that.

  • ReviewsHentai
    1 points Sep 25,2019, 5:50pm

    War is Peace.

    Freedom is Slavery.

    Ignorance is Strength.

  • Nostradomas
    1 points Sep 25,2019, 6:31pm

    Bonkers

COMMENTS

  • lyra833
    51 points Sep 25,2019, 11:42am

    The Chinese government have figure out a way to censor and control free speech even outside their country.

    Welcome to the party, pal.

  • sodiummuffin
    14 points Sep 25,2019, 11:02am

    Album with the images attached to his post.

    We see how the censorship infrastructure developed by social media companies is already being used to suppress speech criticizing the government of China - in this case likely not because China is putting pressure on Facebook/Instagram directly, but because companies have outsourced censorship decisions to any group that can muster up enough reports. Shadowbanning on Instagram means his posts don't show up to people who aren't already his followers, and has no transparency by design, making it ideal for this kind of censorship.

  • superdude411
    31 points Sep 25,2019, 11:41am

    Social media publishers are colluding with the Chinese government to suppress free speech. This is proof.

  • Schlorpek
    21 points Sep 25,2019, 11:48am

    Obvious and predictable consequence of hate speech legislation. Nothing further to add, just that Instagram greatly sucks.

  • NosyLeoFrank
    8 points Sep 25,2019, 2:55pm

    Reminds me of that African dictatorship that decided to call its anti-dissent laws "hate speech legislation" because that's what all the western megalomaniacs were doing.

  • MaouRem
    13 points Sep 25,2019, 11:28am

    Never any reason to shadow ban anyone for anything, if it's some severe case of a call to violence or something they can at least own up to an open ban, the act of being shadowy about it should be a crime

  • evilplushie
    5 points Sep 25,2019, 12:53pm

    Meanwhile white women feminists are in HK telling protestors it's better to be safe than free and taking down their signs

  • totlmstr
    3 points Sep 25,2019, 1:09pm

    Yuumei, huh?

    She's a really talented artist, even gets recommended a lot. She also sometimes details about life in China (she does not live there, but she was born there).

    That piece that got her taken down, as she mentioned, is really old. It's from 2012. She does often post it in the context of protests (since it is a protest image).

    That said, I'm really not surprised she's supporting the Hong Kong protests, and even less surprised that her art got taken down because of that.

  • ReviewsHentai
    1 points Sep 25,2019, 5:50pm

    War is Peace.

    Freedom is Slavery.

    Ignorance is Strength.

  • Nostradomas
    1 points Sep 25,2019, 6:31pm

    Bonkers

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[SocJus/Gaming] ESA Document Detailing Plans For E3 2020 Leaks - Highlights "The Power of Social Good"

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COMMENTS

  • mnemosyne-0001
    1 points Sep 20,2019, 8:19pm

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  • _theholyghost
    1 points Sep 20,2019, 8:27pm

    A slide from a presentation document on behalf of the ESA appears to have leaked and was shared on Twitter courtesy of Brad Glasgow.

    The document seems to point towards a heavy social justice push being present at next year's annual Entertainment Expo (E3) press event reading as follows:

    Research shows that Millennials and Gen Z are the most "giving back"/"social good" generations ever.

    By amplifying E3's social good brand, we can advance the industry's brand with consumers while storing positive chits for future use (e.g., policy goals, next negative video game story)

    One tactic we can implement is partnering with influencers (celebrities, athletes, YouTube personalities) who are passionate about E3 relevant social good efforts (e.g., gender equality, STEM).

    Imagine a NBA Champion global super star participating in an E3 Coliseum conversation and/or global movie star being part of the E3 Digital Ticket because it included social good components.

    I'm not entirely sure how efforts like gender equality and STEM qualify as "E3 relevant social good", neither am I confident in their push to court public figures and celebrities outside of the industry "because it included social good components". This entire thing reads like a gender-conscious critical theory dissertation written by an under-graduate yet appears to give us a somewhat disconcerting peek behind the curtain of the ESA, or at least the branch that is in charge of organisation of the E3 event.

    Assume there'll be more to this story, I'm unaware as to whether there are further slides that have been 'leaked' however feel free to post further updates and clarification below.

COMMENTS

  • mnemosyne-0001
    1 points Sep 20,2019, 8:19pm

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    I am Mnemosyne reborn. Self-destruct in thirty seconds. /r/botsrights

  • _theholyghost
    1 points Sep 20,2019, 8:27pm

    A slide from a presentation document on behalf of the ESA appears to have leaked and was shared on Twitter courtesy of Brad Glasgow.

    The document seems to point towards a heavy social justice push being present at next year's annual Entertainment Expo (E3) press event reading as follows:

    Research shows that Millennials and Gen Z are the most "giving back"/"social good" generations ever.

    By amplifying E3's social good brand, we can advance the industry's brand with consumers while storing positive chits for future use (e.g., policy goals, next negative video game story)

    One tactic we can implement is partnering with influencers (celebrities, athletes, YouTube personalities) who are passionate about E3 relevant social good efforts (e.g., gender equality, STEM).

    Imagine a NBA Champion global super star participating in an E3 Coliseum conversation and/or global movie star being part of the E3 Digital Ticket because it included social good components.

    I'm not entirely sure how efforts like gender equality and STEM qualify as "E3 relevant social good", neither am I confident in their push to court public figures and celebrities outside of the industry "because it included social good components". This entire thing reads like a gender-conscious critical theory dissertation written by an under-graduate yet appears to give us a somewhat disconcerting peek behind the curtain of the ESA, or at least the branch that is in charge of organisation of the E3 event.

    Assume there'll be more to this story, I'm unaware as to whether there are further slides that have been 'leaked' however feel free to post further updates and clarification below.

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Journalist for The Post Millennial further elaborates on why Zoe's tweets contradict her claims about Holowka

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COMMENTS

  • __pulsar
    102 points Sep 13,2019, 9:55pm

    You could post a video of ZQ leaving his apartment saying, "everything we did while I was here was consensual" and still people would be defending her.

    I'm glad this person is posting these contradictions. It's just frustrating that no amount of evidence will away the nut jobs defending her.

  • sodiummuffin
    43 points Sep 13,2019, 6:26pm

    The author of the article posted this to NeoGaf here. While not much in the post is new for those who read the article, it clearly lays out why Zoe's tweets contradict her allegations for the benefit of those who have been downplaying them. These aren't her forgetting incidental details, they contradict the central claims of abuse that are possible to verify - in particular that he confined her to the apartment and didn't let her leave on her own and that he forced her to stay in the city for a month instead of 2 weeks until a scared friend bought her a ticket to escape.

    Here is the original article, linked via archive because for several months Reddit has spam-filtered links to the site for an unknown reason.

  • IWantToTalkNow-
    15 points Sep 13,2019, 7:26pm

    Lauren Chen also did a poll on Twitter earlier asking if people wanted a ZQ video, because the video game stuff usually isn’t her lane. It was like 70% for doing a video on it when I saw it.

  • PixelBlock
    6 points Sep 14,2019, 8:51am

    I’ll admit, I’ve been tuning out most of this because of the depressive reality that nothing would ever come of it. But this reporter has earned a heck of a lot of respect, simply because she actually managed to do her due diligence and correlate the accusation to the known public information.

    A man died because of this mess. If there is any chance that people have been manipulated and mislead for personal gain, it needs to be made known.

  • mnemosyne-0001
    2 points Sep 13,2019, 6:27pm

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COMMENTS

  • __pulsar
    102 points Sep 13,2019, 9:55pm

    You could post a video of ZQ leaving his apartment saying, "everything we did while I was here was consensual" and still people would be defending her.

    I'm glad this person is posting these contradictions. It's just frustrating that no amount of evidence will away the nut jobs defending her.

  • sodiummuffin
    43 points Sep 13,2019, 6:26pm

    The author of the article posted this to NeoGaf here. While not much in the post is new for those who read the article, it clearly lays out why Zoe's tweets contradict her allegations for the benefit of those who have been downplaying them. These aren't her forgetting incidental details, they contradict the central claims of abuse that are possible to verify - in particular that he confined her to the apartment and didn't let her leave on her own and that he forced her to stay in the city for a month instead of 2 weeks until a scared friend bought her a ticket to escape.

    Here is the original article, linked via archive because for several months Reddit has spam-filtered links to the site for an unknown reason.

  • IWantToTalkNow-
    15 points Sep 13,2019, 7:26pm

    Lauren Chen also did a poll on Twitter earlier asking if people wanted a ZQ video, because the video game stuff usually isn’t her lane. It was like 70% for doing a video on it when I saw it.

  • Unplussed
    6 points Sep 13,2019, 11:19pm

    They've already gouged out their eyes and filled their ears with concrete, in order to ignore reality.

  • PixelBlock
    6 points Sep 14,2019, 8:51am

    I’ll admit, I’ve been tuning out most of this because of the depressive reality that nothing would ever come of it. But this reporter has earned a heck of a lot of respect, simply because she actually managed to do her due diligence and correlate the accusation to the known public information.

    A man died because of this mess. If there is any chance that people have been manipulated and mislead for personal gain, it needs to be made known.

  • mnemosyne-0001
    2 points Sep 13,2019, 6:27pm

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Reddit is automatically filtering links to the The Post Millennial articles discussing Zoe Quinn.

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COMMENTS

  • HandofBane
    1 points Sep 12,2019, 3:38am

    To be clear, it's not specifically because of that article. The entire site is caught by reddit's spam filter settings (which we have no control over), and has been for several months. Links can be manually approved by moderators.

  • mcantrell
    40 points Sep 12,2019, 3:22am

    Any direct links are shadowbanned. You can see them, no one else can.

  • bobothecat12
    78 points Sep 12,2019, 4:16am

    reddit banning evidence against the sjw establishment? I would have never thought so!

  • Aro2220
    11 points Sep 12,2019, 12:31pm

    Reddit is a dumpster fire. I wouldn't get comfortable here.

  • Kuma07
    5 points Sep 12,2019, 12:56pm

    I'll never understand why people go up to bat for her.

  • mnemosyne-0001
    3 points Sep 12,2019, 3:22am

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  • mellifluent1
    3 points Sep 12,2019, 4:44pm

    It's not just Reddit. Steam moderators are straight-up just vanishing all threads that start with the TPM articles, and have steadily been banning users and deleting posts discussing the articles as well.

    Bringing up this motivated moderating is of course, also a paddling.

  • MasonTaylor22
    2 points Sep 12,2019, 12:04pm

    I'm guessing it's a reference to this link?

    https://archive.is/wn69c

  • Keanu_Reeves_real
    3 points Sep 12,2019, 9:43am

    Seems like a kia mod tactic lol

    meow

COMMENTS

  • HandofBane
    1 points Sep 12,2019, 3:38am

    To be clear, it's not specifically because of that article. The entire site is caught by reddit's spam filter settings (which we have no control over), and has been for several months. Links can be manually approved by moderators.

  • mcantrell
    40 points Sep 12,2019, 3:22am

    Any direct links are shadowbanned. You can see them, no one else can.

  • bobothecat12
    78 points Sep 12,2019, 4:16am

    reddit banning evidence against the sjw establishment? I would have never thought so!

  • johnyann
    24 points Sep 12,2019, 11:55am

    Gamergate was far more about institutional corruption like this as anything else.

  • Aro2220
    11 points Sep 12,2019, 12:31pm

    Reddit is a dumpster fire. I wouldn't get comfortable here.

  • Kuma07
    5 points Sep 12,2019, 12:56pm

    I'll never understand why people go up to bat for her.

  • mnemosyne-0001
    3 points Sep 12,2019, 3:22am

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  • mellifluent1
    3 points Sep 12,2019, 4:44pm

    It's not just Reddit. Steam moderators are straight-up just vanishing all threads that start with the TPM articles, and have steadily been banning users and deleting posts discussing the articles as well.

    Bringing up this motivated moderating is of course, also a paddling.

  • MasonTaylor22
    2 points Sep 12,2019, 12:04pm

    I'm guessing it's a reference to this link?

    https://archive.is/wn69c

  • Keanu_Reeves_real
    3 points Sep 12,2019, 9:43am

    Seems like a kia mod tactic lol

    meow

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Daryl Davis, the black man that convinced over 200 KKK members to denounce white supremacy, is threatened and called a white supremacist by Antifa

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COMMENTS

  • platinumchalice
    1 points Sep 07,2019, 8:12pm

    Every time I hear about this man I can only marvel at what a Chad he must be to pull off the shit he does.

  • StormTiger2304
    1 points Sep 07,2019, 8:12pm

    Ah yes, the most iconic trademark of white supremacism, a black man.

  • StrongStyleFiction
    1 points Sep 07,2019, 8:28pm

    You don't have to be psychic to foresee that they would come after Daryl Davis at some point. If there is one thing that the woke left hates more than anything, its a black person having a mind or a will of their own.

  • TrainsNRailGuns
    1 points Sep 07,2019, 8:28pm

    Only the most hardcore white supremacists try to stop white supremacy.

  • Fatumsch
    1 points Sep 07,2019, 8:24pm

    It’s truly astounding to see how fucking backwards antifa is. They are the thing they claim to be fighting against.

  • DoctorBleed
    1 points Sep 07,2019, 8:30pm

    Remember when "Antifa" were just called "Anarchist protesters" because the media didn't have a clear agenda?

  • katsuya_kaiba
    1 points Sep 07,2019, 8:34pm

    I wish I could say I'm surprised...but I've been on Tumblr and Twitter too long.

  • mnemosyne-0001
    1 points Sep 07,2019, 8:00pm

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  • Steampunk_Moustache
    1 points Sep 07,2019, 8:33pm

    it's good to be color colorblind

    Oh hell yeah they called him a white supremacist. Welcome to the pit.

COMMENTS

  • platinumchalice
    1 points Sep 07,2019, 8:12pm

    Every time I hear about this man I can only marvel at what a Chad he must be to pull off the shit he does.

  • StormTiger2304
    1 points Sep 07,2019, 8:12pm

    Ah yes, the most iconic trademark of white supremacism, a black man.

  • StrongStyleFiction
    1 points Sep 07,2019, 8:28pm

    You don't have to be psychic to foresee that they would come after Daryl Davis at some point. If there is one thing that the woke left hates more than anything, its a black person having a mind or a will of their own.

  • ForPortal
    1 points Sep 07,2019, 8:24pm

    Daryl Davis: Convinced hundreds of KKK members to stop being white supremacists.

    Antifa: Gave Hitler the excuse to tighten his grip on Germany by setting fire to parliament.

  • TrainsNRailGuns
    1 points Sep 07,2019, 8:28pm

    Only the most hardcore white supremacists try to stop white supremacy.

  • Fatumsch
    1 points Sep 07,2019, 8:24pm

    It’s truly astounding to see how fucking backwards antifa is. They are the thing they claim to be fighting against.

  • DoctorBleed
    1 points Sep 07,2019, 8:30pm

    Remember when "Antifa" were just called "Anarchist protesters" because the media didn't have a clear agenda?

  • katsuya_kaiba
    1 points Sep 07,2019, 8:34pm

    I wish I could say I'm surprised...but I've been on Tumblr and Twitter too long.

  • mnemosyne-0001
    1 points Sep 07,2019, 8:00pm

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  • Steampunk_Moustache
    1 points Sep 07,2019, 8:33pm

    it's good to be color colorblind

    Oh hell yeah they called him a white supremacist. Welcome to the pit.

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[SocJus] Guild Wars 2 makes the Ice Dragon Jormag "non-binary" with this amazing piece of writing

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COMMENTS

  • sodiummuffin
    17 points Sep 05,2019, 5:00pm

    Tweets about it from the Guild Wars 2 Narrative Director:

    http://archive.is/DeF7y

    Without giving anything away, I think any serious storyline that involves the Sons of Svanir in this day and age would need to confront their chauvinism head-on. Also, I suggest listening closely to Jormag’s voice in the trailer for a hint as to how Jormag might regard it.

    Not exactly. Non-binary Jormag. :-)

    http://archive.is/yvWrk

    http://archive.is/iOELF

    http://archive.is/VgEnH

    Source here page six of their PDF.

    OAG article.

    Edit: Since some people are confused, keep in mind the red text isn't something I wrote. I know it sounds like some sort of weird modern gender-identity politics interpretation by an idiot on the internet, but the Guild Wars 2 writers actually wrote it as an in-character remark by a character in their fantasy setting.

  • Tunderbrew
    22 points Sep 05,2019, 5:53pm

    People not understanding the image and not reading any of the links aside...(the "non-binary possessive pronoun" quote is from official marketing material and not an edit)

    One of the Elder Dragons not having a gendered identity doesn't bother me that much. What really bothers me is that they decided to trot out this poorly written(it reads like a tweet or tumblr post even though it's supposed to be in-universe musings) bit of 'look how Woke our game is!' to deflect from the game's increasingly poor perception and performance. All while one of their marketing managers and one of their devs repeatedly spills their spaghetti at the playerbase for being critical of development and marketing, even referencing the alt right boogiemen.

    When the topic first popped up in a writer's twitter feed, I assumed it'd be confined there as low hanging bait/pandering, but then it popped up in official marketing. So maybe we will actually end up with a cringey lecture in-game... because that will save the studio. Apparently we need to address chauvinism through the Sons of Svanir too.

  • FredFuchz
    10 points Sep 05,2019, 6:36pm

    While the self congratulation surrounding Jormag being """non-binary""" is annoying, the retconning of the lore to make a commentary on modern day gender politics is far more egregious.

    Current Narrative Designer, Tom Abernathy says:

    Abernathy: Without giving anything away, I think any serious storyline that involves the Sons of Svanir in this day and age would need to confront their chauvinism head-on. Also, I suggest listening closely to Jormag’s voice in the trailer for a hint as to how Jormag might regard it.

    Gin: Lady Jormag?

    Abernathy: Not exactly. Non-binary Jormag. :-)

    Jormag is Non-Binary and cares about the Sons of Svanir's chauvinism.

    Yet the original Narrative Designers/Writers, Jeff Grubb and Ree Soesbee, said:

    GuildMag (Ollannach): So we’ve also gone to Twitter and asked our followers to send us some questions. While we read through a few of them and chosen the ones that were most important. So… in Edge of Destiny it’s observed that men who go to fight Jormag’s minions and fail, return as icebroods but women don’t return at all. Is there anything more about what happens to women who fall under Jormag’s power?

    ArenaNet (Jeff Grubb): I don’t think they fall as much as they are killed.

    ArenaNet (Ree Soesbee): Yeah, they die.

    ArenaNet (Jeff Grubb): The Sons of Svanir just… the way that they worship Jormag has evolved is very chauvinist, very male chauvinist, in the fact that it is a very boys-only club, they don’t really get to reanimate. The women are just slain.

    ArenaNet (Ree Soesbee): I think it’s less that Jormag won’t corrupt a woman and more that as they are being corrupted, the Sons of Svanir will just kill any woman who is caught being given Svanir’s gift.

    ArenaNet (Jeff Grubb): Jormag doesn’t care. Jormag really does not care. It’s as if ants that are going off, the red ants and the black ants, that’s nice. But the Sons of Svanir…

    ArenaNet (Ree Soesbee): The Sons of Svanir have a cult, it’s a religious organisation.

    ArenaNet (Jeff Grubb): It comes through that funnel, the Sons of Svanir are his mechanism in the world, so therefore their beliefs, and their prejudices, have that effect.

    ArenaNet (Ree Soesbee): And so they kill the women.

    http://archive.is/zJaH1

    Jormag doesn't care and is male.

  • ArcaneInvoker
    6 points Sep 05,2019, 5:33pm

    I've been playing Guild Wars 2 since it launched, and I just quit as of now. I was going to buy the new (actually not so new) expansion this week, but not anymore. If this is the quality of their writing now, I have a feeling going forward that playing their game is going to be like punching myself in the face. It's a shame, when it launched it was pretty good for an MMO. But I've got a backlog of good games that don't spew the writer's personal psycho delusions in my face.

  • Bellowingwhale
    7 points Sep 05,2019, 5:39pm

    not every usage of "them" is progressive nonesense...

    Given that Dragons typically lack visible sex characteristics (think birds), the only way to tell if a Dragon is Male or Female would be to a) DNA test it, or b) see it lay an egg (those are literally the only way to tell if most birds are Male or Female, outside a few species, that have dimorphic feather coloration or patterns unique to the sexes (see Peahen's being drab and grey, and the Peacock having the bright showy feathers)

  • algizanna
    2 points Sep 05,2019, 5:46pm

    Luckily I haven't noticed any sort of nonsense like this in the game, this is just some extra posting that probably not that many people even looked at

  • mnemosyne-0001
    1 points Sep 05,2019, 5:00pm

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  • Kalatash
    1 points Sep 05,2019, 6:38pm

    I remember forming a headcanon as to why the Sons of Svanir was a boys only club, since I don't recall there really being a reason given in the lore.

    I know the Flame Legion had an in-game reason for only being male (that was made because all the charr in GW1 were dudes), but since I only started playing around after LWs1 in GW2 ended I don't really know it that well.

  • justwasted
    1 points Sep 05,2019, 7:45pm

    I wish there were a way I could voice my displeasure to ArenaNet that was more meaningful than just not spending money on their game.

  • MaouRem
    -6 points Sep 05,2019, 5:33pm

    talks about elder dragons in general and then uses the term "them" you're reading too far into that, it sounds to me like it's talking about allying with the Elder Dragons in general, not just Jormag so that is not a "non-binary possessive"

COMMENTS

  • sodiummuffin
    17 points Sep 05,2019, 5:00pm

    Tweets about it from the Guild Wars 2 Narrative Director:

    http://archive.is/DeF7y

    Without giving anything away, I think any serious storyline that involves the Sons of Svanir in this day and age would need to confront their chauvinism head-on. Also, I suggest listening closely to Jormag’s voice in the trailer for a hint as to how Jormag might regard it.

    Not exactly. Non-binary Jormag. :-)

    http://archive.is/yvWrk

    http://archive.is/iOELF

    http://archive.is/VgEnH

    Source here page six of their PDF.

    OAG article.

    Edit: Since some people are confused, keep in mind the red text isn't something I wrote. I know it sounds like some sort of weird modern gender-identity politics interpretation by an idiot on the internet, but the Guild Wars 2 writers actually wrote it as an in-character remark by a character in their fantasy setting.

  • Tunderbrew
    22 points Sep 05,2019, 5:53pm

    People not understanding the image and not reading any of the links aside...(the "non-binary possessive pronoun" quote is from official marketing material and not an edit)

    One of the Elder Dragons not having a gendered identity doesn't bother me that much. What really bothers me is that they decided to trot out this poorly written(it reads like a tweet or tumblr post even though it's supposed to be in-universe musings) bit of 'look how Woke our game is!' to deflect from the game's increasingly poor perception and performance. All while one of their marketing managers and one of their devs repeatedly spills their spaghetti at the playerbase for being critical of development and marketing, even referencing the alt right boogiemen.

    When the topic first popped up in a writer's twitter feed, I assumed it'd be confined there as low hanging bait/pandering, but then it popped up in official marketing. So maybe we will actually end up with a cringey lecture in-game... because that will save the studio. Apparently we need to address chauvinism through the Sons of Svanir too.

  • FredFuchz
    10 points Sep 05,2019, 6:36pm

    While the self congratulation surrounding Jormag being """non-binary""" is annoying, the retconning of the lore to make a commentary on modern day gender politics is far more egregious.

    Current Narrative Designer, Tom Abernathy says:

    Abernathy: Without giving anything away, I think any serious storyline that involves the Sons of Svanir in this day and age would need to confront their chauvinism head-on. Also, I suggest listening closely to Jormag’s voice in the trailer for a hint as to how Jormag might regard it.

    Gin: Lady Jormag?

    Abernathy: Not exactly. Non-binary Jormag. :-)

    Jormag is Non-Binary and cares about the Sons of Svanir's chauvinism.

    Yet the original Narrative Designers/Writers, Jeff Grubb and Ree Soesbee, said:

    GuildMag (Ollannach): So we’ve also gone to Twitter and asked our followers to send us some questions. While we read through a few of them and chosen the ones that were most important. So… in Edge of Destiny it’s observed that men who go to fight Jormag’s minions and fail, return as icebroods but women don’t return at all. Is there anything more about what happens to women who fall under Jormag’s power?

    ArenaNet (Jeff Grubb): I don’t think they fall as much as they are killed.

    ArenaNet (Ree Soesbee): Yeah, they die.

    ArenaNet (Jeff Grubb): The Sons of Svanir just… the way that they worship Jormag has evolved is very chauvinist, very male chauvinist, in the fact that it is a very boys-only club, they don’t really get to reanimate. The women are just slain.

    ArenaNet (Ree Soesbee): I think it’s less that Jormag won’t corrupt a woman and more that as they are being corrupted, the Sons of Svanir will just kill any woman who is caught being given Svanir’s gift.

    ArenaNet (Jeff Grubb): Jormag doesn’t care. Jormag really does not care. It’s as if ants that are going off, the red ants and the black ants, that’s nice. But the Sons of Svanir…

    ArenaNet (Ree Soesbee): The Sons of Svanir have a cult, it’s a religious organisation.

    ArenaNet (Jeff Grubb): It comes through that funnel, the Sons of Svanir are his mechanism in the world, so therefore their beliefs, and their prejudices, have that effect.

    ArenaNet (Ree Soesbee): And so they kill the women.

    http://archive.is/zJaH1

    Jormag doesn't care and is male.

  • Wonsavage
    14 points Sep 05,2019, 5:12pm

    Yeah any time I think about going back to that game the writers find a new way to remind me what a miserable state they've driven it in.

  • ArcaneInvoker
    6 points Sep 05,2019, 5:33pm

    I've been playing Guild Wars 2 since it launched, and I just quit as of now. I was going to buy the new (actually not so new) expansion this week, but not anymore. If this is the quality of their writing now, I have a feeling going forward that playing their game is going to be like punching myself in the face. It's a shame, when it launched it was pretty good for an MMO. But I've got a backlog of good games that don't spew the writer's personal psycho delusions in my face.

  • Bellowingwhale
    7 points Sep 05,2019, 5:39pm

    not every usage of "them" is progressive nonesense...

    Given that Dragons typically lack visible sex characteristics (think birds), the only way to tell if a Dragon is Male or Female would be to a) DNA test it, or b) see it lay an egg (those are literally the only way to tell if most birds are Male or Female, outside a few species, that have dimorphic feather coloration or patterns unique to the sexes (see Peahen's being drab and grey, and the Peacock having the bright showy feathers)

  • algizanna
    2 points Sep 05,2019, 5:46pm

    Luckily I haven't noticed any sort of nonsense like this in the game, this is just some extra posting that probably not that many people even looked at

  • mnemosyne-0001
    1 points Sep 05,2019, 5:00pm

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  • Kalatash
    1 points Sep 05,2019, 6:38pm

    I remember forming a headcanon as to why the Sons of Svanir was a boys only club, since I don't recall there really being a reason given in the lore.

    I know the Flame Legion had an in-game reason for only being male (that was made because all the charr in GW1 were dudes), but since I only started playing around after LWs1 in GW2 ended I don't really know it that well.

  • justwasted
    1 points Sep 05,2019, 7:45pm

    I wish there were a way I could voice my displeasure to ArenaNet that was more meaningful than just not spending money on their game.

  • MaouRem
    -6 points Sep 05,2019, 5:33pm

    talks about elder dragons in general and then uses the term "them" you're reading too far into that, it sounds to me like it's talking about allying with the Elder Dragons in general, not just Jormag so that is not a "non-binary possessive"

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Latest Accurate Status of Ion Fury: It's back up firmly on the "Mostly Positive" range ("Overwhelmingly Positive" with filters on)

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  • Ruhroh2000
    19 points Sep 01,2019, 1:04pm

    Just goes to show how little power retard-era really has without their pet journalists.

  • md1957
    4 points Sep 01,2019, 12:23pm

    Imgur link courtesy of u/AboveSkies

    Had to delete the other one, which showed the same screen but with the filters on (96% in Recent Reviews). Nonetheless, I gleaned the following as of 5:11 PM GMT, September 2, 2019:

    • 79% in Recent Reviews ("Mostly Positive")
    • 85% in All Reviews ("Very Positive")

    Prevailing sentiment seems to be either "All is forgiven" or " Fuck the politics and drama, the game's good."

  • AulisVaara
    5 points Sep 01,2019, 12:37pm

    Please remind me, what was the drama around Ion Fury?

COMMENTS

  • Ruhroh2000
    19 points Sep 01,2019, 1:04pm

    Just goes to show how little power retard-era really has without their pet journalists.

  • md1957
    4 points Sep 01,2019, 12:23pm

    Imgur link courtesy of u/AboveSkies

    Had to delete the other one, which showed the same screen but with the filters on (96% in Recent Reviews). Nonetheless, I gleaned the following as of 5:11 PM GMT, September 2, 2019:

    • 79% in Recent Reviews ("Mostly Positive")
    • 85% in All Reviews ("Very Positive")

    Prevailing sentiment seems to be either "All is forgiven" or " Fuck the politics and drama, the game's good."

  • AulisVaara
    5 points Sep 01,2019, 12:37pm

    Please remind me, what was the drama around Ion Fury?

  • mnemosyne-0001
    2 points Sep 01,2019, 12:21pm

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